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>tfw "thank you young man, you're such a gentleman.
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>tfw "thank you young man, you're such a gentleman. You're so masculine and handsome with those broad shoulders, huge hands, and height, I bet all the attractive, feminine women are all over your huge penis. I'm sure all those women want you to fill their perfect, working uteruses with your hot man seed and have your children through piv sexual intercourse, you buff, adonis ubermensch."
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>>5497011

>Every word of praise is just another insult
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>>5497011
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>>5497011

"Girls should care a lot for their appearance. Not like Anon, he is a traditional man. *smiles*"
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>>5497011
>wow anon, nothing seems to bother you! You're a tough tough man, that's for sure. You're a rock!

>remember anon, no matter what happens, you will always be my son
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>>5497011
>im so jealous of your chiseled jaw and heavy stubble, you handsome manly man, you must have not shaved in weeks
>i-its been 3 hrs
>wow dude im so jealous youre such a rock
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this really hits close to home
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>wow you are 12 and look at you, you have proper man shoulders already. i am sure you're going to turn into a very handsome man! :^)
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>help a black lady out with her groceries
>"mmhmm good to know there's still decent men in this world"
>fight back the sadness
>"You're welcome, ma'am"
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>"Will that be all, sir?"
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Oh god this is so painfully relatable
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>be me
>16
>working at some sandwich place
>little girl says
>"are you a boy or a girl"
>tfw
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>>5497011
>hey man bro dude, what's going on broman? how's it hanging (your penis)
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>>5499389
hahaha, man. that's great
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>this is your daughter? she's so cute! you look just like your mom!
>omg why are you so short
>haha i thought you were like 12
>here, let me help you lift this heavy object even though it's not at all necessary
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>>5497011
>"oh, anon wouldn't be interested in this, it's too girly."

>"We're probably boring you with all this women talk. The guys are all out on the patio if you'd rather sit with them."

>"lol, omg, can you imagine anon as a girl? so funny!"

>"anon is really the strong, silent, stoic type."

>"fuck dude, i would fuck her so hard, look at that ass, am i right, bro?" other guy: "yeah, jizz all over her face. you see her anon?" tfw Girl they're talking about is within hearing distance the entire time.

>"you have hair like a damn woman."

>"god, women are fucking useless and crazy. am i right anon?"
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>>5500123

>"lol, omg, can you imagine anon as a girl? so funny!"

fuck
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>>5499229
>the only decent men left in this world want to be women
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>MFW school was a thing.
Being feminine was a joke and nothing more.
"Split up into teams, boys vs girls!"
Having no female friends.
Getting placed in an all guys PE class, having to do wrestling and workouts while the girls did gymnastics.
Change rooms in general.
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Wow, you've actually gotten compliments, from other people. People have actually acknowledged you. That must feel good, to have that happen to yo... oh wait!
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>>5500123
>"fuck dude, i would fuck her so hard, look at that ass, am i right, bro?"
>other guy: "yeah, jizz all over her face. you see her anon?"
>tfw Girl they're talking about is within hearing distance the entire time.
Fucking hell. I'm a cishet guy and this shit always drove me up the fucking wall. Do you WANT women to think we're all assholes?
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>Man up!
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>>5499389
Sorry she is training to become a pokemon professor
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>>5500322
you're a beta bitch boi.
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>>5500291
>PE class
>get split up into 'shirts' and 'skins' for a team game
>you get put on the 'skins' team
>have to take off your shirt
>become super self-conscious
(Boys only, of course; the girls would be off playing something else, they didn't need to do anything embarrassing like that.)
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>>5500322
Then there's the guy who just has to yell "Penis!" or something similar all the time like he has fucking tourettes. And we're talking about grown men.
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>>5497011
>not out to parents
>at christmas they take me shopping and buy me hundreds of pounds worth of new clothes, an expensive new suit etc.
>I've been planning to come out to them next summer
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>tfw Jarvis Cocker jaw
hon forever, even when I'm a skeleton
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>>5500419
fuck iktf

i've been out to my parents for two years and they still buy me only male clothes, when i ask for something that fits me better they just pretend to not understand

i had really hoped that they would show even a tiny amount of effort @ christmas (i'm too old for lots of gifts, etc, but we exchange clothes and stuff) but i was disappointed

how frustrating
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>a few months into self-medding
>obvious booblets, hiding them from parents
>sister comes into room one day when I'm on my laptop in bed
>"OH MY GOD MUM ANON HAS BOOBS!!!!"
>realise the way I'm lying really emphasises my tits
>panic as she comes into the room, pull duvet over them
>"I bet anon is taking pills to become a woman lol" (she has always said stuff like this to be snarky but I'm scared as time goes on it's actually going to cause my parents to catch on)
>mum: "haha don't be silly anonette, anon wouldn't look like a woman in a million years, he can't be a tranny"
>tfw
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>>5500123
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>>5497011
I don't get it
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>>5497011

>"Anon is so chill he must get a lot of pussy."

>>5499229
>>5500123

>help a black lady out with her groceries
>"mmhmm good to know there's still decent men in this world"
>fight back the sadness
>"You're welcome, ma'am"

>"oh, anon wouldn't be interested in this, it's too girly."

>"We're probably boring you with all this women talk. The guys are all out on the patio if you'd rather sit with them."

>"lol, omg, can you imagine anon as a girl? so funny!"

>"anon is really the strong, silent, stoic type."

Most hurtful things to me in this thread besides my previous post, senpai.

>>5500246

Why does that make you sad?
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>no one in our family has ever even reached 6', it's a blessing that you became such a tall handsome man, anon

>I'm sort of jealous of your height, bro
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Your jaw is so manly! I can't believe how powerful you look while being that height. All the women must be all over you. Bed any good bitches lately, anon, haha!

>>5497417
>you will always be my son
My achilles heel. Makes me just fucking shatter with guilt.
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>>5501423
>>5497417
>you will always be my son
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>>5501398

>no one in our family has ever even reached 6', it's a blessing that you became such a tall handsome man, anon

>I'm sort of jealous of your height, bro

How tall are you exactly? I get the same shit despite the fact I'm 5'10" (extended family is in 6'+ territory though.) Thankfully, even with the compliments about how "tall" I am, I don't feel dysphoric about my height.
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>>5499172
get off 4chan you're fucking 12
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>>5501858

I'm sure someone can remember something that bothered them from at least 6 years ago, anon.
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>>5501864
and rant about it pointlessly even though it's not a big deal and their fault if they don't want to come out
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>>5501838
6'3''
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>>5500246

Are you MtF or a cis girl?
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>shopping for cellphone case
>Here are all the cellphone cases, as you can see most of them are too girly for you. So you have these two to pick.
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>>5500123

>"fuck dude, i would fuck her so hard, look at that ass, am i right, bro?" other guy: "yeah, jizz all over her face. you see her anon?"

Goddamn, who talks like this? Are there actually people crass enough that they'll casually talk about fucking strangers in (and this is the worst part, for me) terms that would be simple to a caveman? You can't at least be clever about it, if you're so insistent on discussing how you'll bone every attractive ass in the room?

Also, who the fuck actually talks about giving facials? Moneyshots are a shitty premise concocted by the porn industry because internal ejaculations were generally unexciting for viewers - you can't see it happening, after all. Anyone who's actually had sex knows it always feels better to finish off inside.
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>>5502227
It's a guy thing, you wouldn't understand it. You have to consider it, give a fuck and think who would have the balls. Anyway, the signal you send out it is that you are down to fuck. So people might be all shocked and, omg nasty blah blah blah, but in reality its a way for the chick to hear it and like it and want to experience it.

Also facials are pretty cool, because there's a power dynamic in them, about getting to have your cum wherever you want and if the other person also likes it they like every aspect of you, even your life giving fuckjuice. You probably would've to be a guy to get it again.
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>>5502249

I'm a guy who likes getting facefucked and cum pumped down his throat. I've been contemplating trying some no-burn mascara to get the black streaks down my face when my eyes tear up, because I feel like dominant men like the "used slut" look - I certainly do.

So try again.
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>>5502263
as I said, you'd have to be a man to understand it.
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>>5502266
What if I both understand the hot power dynamic behind it, enjoy giving it and receiving it?
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>>5502266

I also like facefucking girls.

I'm just orally-fixated on cocks parting lips and throats. Receiving from guys, giving to girls.

Spit or swallow shouldn't even be an option.
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>>5502249
Straight guy here again. The problem is not that I don't understand the dynamic -- it's that I hate the sense of entitlement that goes along with it. You're part of the problem.
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>growing hair for a year
>have to get it all cut off

;_;
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desu suicide is the only real option
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>>5502371
Oh no! Are you joining the military or something?
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>>5500408
you mean shorts and skins, right?
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>look at your lovely long hair, why would you ever want to cut it off? i'll leave it long enough that you can tie it back if you want
>check out anon's rockin' tits
>you're developing quite a nice figure
>looking so young will really work for you when you're older!
>let me carry that, i don't want to see you struggle
>aw, you're so tiny
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>>5502350
>i want to do X
>entitlement
wat
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>>5502401

I don't get the entitlement either. I just hate that some guys are actually boorish enough to talk about fucking total strangers out loud. I hate that they're typically uncreative with their descriptions even more. People need to take a fucking language expansion course.
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>>5502401
>i get to talk about other humans like they're meat for my consumption and nobody questions that this is normal and acceptable
>not entitlement
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>>5502433
>somebody said something I don't like therefore they feel entitled
>>>/tumblr/
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>>5502433

Yeah, that doesn't sound like they feel entitled to her or her body. It does sound like they feel entitled to ogle her, as well as hit on her, but then they are. Go into a public place, you give up the right to not be observed or engaged in conversation. Harassment is another issue entirely, of course, but a couple strike-outs would hardly qualify unless you're groping.
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>>5502470
The example given above -- crude suggestions about the use of her body -- sounds an awful lot like harassment to me. If you talked to a coworker like that, you'd sure as fuck be getting a call from your HR department.
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>>5502486

There's a distinct difference between a work environment and, say, a club environment.

For starters, the choice of clothing available to you.

There are plenty of ways to dress that are casual or even downplay your desirable physical characteristics. That said, if you dress to show off your ass, don't be surprised to have your ass noticed and possibly remarked-on. This goes for guys, too.
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>>5502525
>There's a distinct difference between a work environment and, say, a club environment.
Fair point. The original example did not specify the environment, though, and the club is pretty much the ONLY place I would consider that kind of catcalling acceptable.
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>>5502394
I can't look like a long-haired faggot during job interviews.
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>>5502525
>There's a distinct difference between a work environment and, say, a club environment.
That is true, both both are public.
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>>5502525
>>5502536
It happened in bars.
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been wanting to get this off my chest for a little while.

>sitting around with sister, one year younger than me
>sister decides to take snapchat, send to mutual friends
>alright sure i guess
>lie down head to head
>like so >¦o o¦<
>sister's hair fans out behind her like she's in a fucking instagram pic
>(sister is a qt. way too many boys after her)
>"ow anon your head's on my hair"
>move hair
>hair to both sides of my head
>sister laughs uncontrollably, drapes hair
>see face in phone
>hon
>40 year old hon jawline

>thought I was young enough to transition well if you know, I even wanted to, hypothetically
>wondering for weeks if trans
>interests aren't super male or female coded anyways I don't think
>but what if?
>gay/lesbian/bi friends talk about how they wish they could find somebody trans to complete the acronym
>mfw I have no face
>long flowing skirts?
>like some parts of my body- slim waistline, feminine hips
>hate shoulders and face
>facial hair is like sandpaper
>avoid mirrors
>don't recognize face as mine, just kinda gross
>indifferent towards genitalia

>look at picture
>all this flashes in head
>shit
>something just stops inside me
>give sister glasses under guise of it being a swap
>she likes wearing them anyways

>no
>nonono
>even worse

>sister takes photo, sends, still laughing uncontrollably
>hahaha anon you look so terrible as a woman

>haha right

>sister shows pictures to mom in an hour, still laughing

>mom looks like she wants to vomit

tell me more stories so I feel less alone pls
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>>5502470
>Go into a public place, you give up the right to not be observed or engaged in conversation.

Which of course extends from polite civil conversation necessary to live our lives peacefully in the same society, to "wow I'd creampie her ass over and over again!" So it'd be cool for someone to make that observation about you out loud? About your partner? About your spouse? About your mother? I'm just asking questions.
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>>5502371

Can't you wear a wig over your natural hair?

>>5503357

That sounds horrible, anon. I had something similar happen to me. I thought my mandible would be neutral, but when I shaved my face to see what I was working with, I saw that my chin was really fucking wide. It ruined my day.
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>>5503357
holy shit seeing yourself in the mirror when you're trying to put effort into passing and looking like a disgusting hon just ruins me

I pass as an average chubby nerd girl when I'm wearing a hoodie and jeans but when I try to wear anything distinctly feminine I feel fucking disgusting
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>insecure about height cause mom wants tall son
>insists I am 6'2
>grow up thinking I'm 6'2
>get measured at doctor and find out I'm 6'0
>still bad but not as bad
>every time I see her insists that the doctor was lying or her measuring tape was off and that I'm still her tall manly son
Hurts a lot
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>>5501398
tfw i know that feel

everyone in my family is like 5'3, only i am 5'11
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>>5497011
You all must have mental illness if you can't take a complement.
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>>5503357
jesus, sounds like a horror story
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>>5503357
That's really rough anon, I look good as a guy with long hair even if I don't pass as a woman so I have that to fall back on at least
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>>5502396
What? No, one team would wear whatever gym clothes they had on them ('shirts'), the other team would take their shirts off ('skins').
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>>5504210
Fuck are you me?
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>Mom complimenting me on my weightloss(down 80 pounds and now p thin)
>Me:*jokingly* "Oh yeah you wish you looked like this" *lifts shirt up*
>Mom: "Yeah right, I'm a girl, if I had a body like that I'd look horrible! Haha"
>Go upstairs and contemplate taking my own life
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>>5504398
Oh my god anon I'm so sorry
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>>5504398
lol @ mom's sick burn
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>>5497011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X6CTx8DA5c
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>>5504522
>Why can't you just take a compliment?
>Who cares if they're insults to you?
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>>5500225
Kill me now
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>>5504530
Just how much of a weak cunt do you have to be to not accept praise from someone who doesnt realise you're gay and then internally cry about it?
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>>5501883
I know the feel anon
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>>5504552
>implying OP and most other posters in this thread aren't trannies that are insulted by being called masculine or feminine, respectively
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>>5504567
It's not that it's insulting, I understand they're trying to be nice and I'm happy about that. It's just like if you had a genetic deformity and everyone complimented it, you think it's disgusting and wish people wouldn't point it out, but they think it's great.
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>>5504583
Well, yeah, but it's functionally an insult at that point, regardless of the intention.
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>>5504398
FUUUUUUCKKK that's brutal
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>>5502337
>I also like facefucking girls.
W-what about transgirls?
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>>5504583
Are you trans or gay?
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>>5503388

Personally, I'd be flattered if someone commented appreciatively on my appearance; random jerks are the only people I'd trust to be honest about how I look. Unfortunately, I'm not really the social type and while my boyfriend seems to like how I look, I don't go to bars or dress to show off my good s (or, perhaps, my bads).

I might not find it cool if someone else I'm with has it done to them, but ultimately, it's up to them how to deal with it. If you don't like it, you're equally entitled to confront them and make them look like an ass as they are to comment on your looks in the first place. Free speech.

That said, if you're actually getting harassed (and in my book, it's not verbal harassment unless they continue after you've already told them to stop at least once), you could probably find a bouncer or talk to a bartender. If they aren't inclined to do anything about, then maybe that's not the right kind of place for you.
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>>5504619
Trans, why would gay people care if they are complimented on whatever gender they are? They have no gender issues if they're just gay
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>>5504641
Because cis male gays cant reproduce and have babies either, but thats not the point i just needed clarification.

Why dont you come out then?
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>>5504675
Cause I'm afraid desu, literally no other reason. I'm getting on hormones soon so people will stop complimenting me on that type of thing hopefully.
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>>5504522
http://youtu.be/PZeDFwTcnCc
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>>5504740
yeah that just might be the solution to your problems, and maybe aswell to many other closeted trannies who bitch about it on 4chan
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>>5504796
Hormones don't solve the majority of problems, sadly. (What they do manage to do is nice, though.)
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>>5504833
I'm not just implying they start hormone treatmeant, but also coming out completely.
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>>5504891
Coming out solves nothing and creates more problems if you don't pass well. It's better to start hormones before that
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>>5502227
My 58-year-old dad talks like this all the time when I'm out anywhere with him. Constantly talking loudly and very intently about how I should be "ripping the panties off" random women walking past us in the street. He even talks about my female friends like that if I ever bring them around my parents' house, in full earshot of them. Some of them won't go round there anymore. It's a very real thing.
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>>5497011
Even if you're straight with no gf this shit is depressing
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>>5504900
Coming out solves this threads subject for starters, and you dont have to dress up in order to tell someone you are a transitioning female.
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This entire thread is like the perfectly concocted dirty bomb for a trans person's psyche.
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>>5504970
I'd rather be hurt by well meaning compliments than viewed as a freak and degenerate
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>>5504949

Parents who talk intently with their children about anything of a sexual nature are creepy.

They should feel as uncomfortable talking about your sex life as you should feel talking about theirs.
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>>5504970
confirmed for troll.
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>>5502227
You've never hung around those types of guys?

Sometimes they'll even say they want to rape them, again within earshot. I don't know whether they'd actually do it or if they're just that stupid. But yeah, it's like they don't have a filter on their mouth. These are white collar, college educated men too, but they seem like the type that never grew up past age 14. I don't really hang around them anymore. I know it's not every guy, and maybe I just end up in the wrong crowds, but man it really messed up my view hearing how men talk when there are no women around.
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>>5504970
Yeah but there's a chance it will cause all sorts of other problems. Chances are, they don't really understand what it is, and even if they do have some understanding they aren't guaranteed to be accepting.
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>>5505168
WELL THEN YOU ARE A FUCKING COWARD
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>>5505227

The worst I've heard around me was some guy telling his friend that he thought Sullivan & Son was hilarious.

Which is a pretty fucking terrible thing to say, especially out loud and to a friend, but not quite as bad as proclaiming that you want to rape someone.

I mean, I fantasize about rape a lot (from both positions, no less), but I'm not such a sperglord that I'd actually talk about them out loud.
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>>5497011
>mfw petite girly body,5'2 (160 cm) smooth skin,no broad shoulders, i wear girl size s(short)
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>>5505312
Die, bitch.
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>>5505247
Confirmed for troll
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>>5505312
>mfw you're a fat little butterball ftm
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>>5505405
stay jelly, and im mtf
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>>5505246
What in the fuck do you really expect to be done about that?
and why do you feel the need to be accepted by literal bigots?
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>>5501883
6'4" Guess I'll just have to settle for wondering what if
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>>5505590
>and why do you feel the need to be accepted by literal bigots?
Because sometimes you're in no position to get away from the bigots.
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>>5502399
>aw, you're so tiny
Shit, bro. That's a barb.
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>>5505663
sure yeah
if you're a lazy coward
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>>5505683
Sometimes there really is nothing you can do about it. Not everyone always has the power to control their situation.
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>>5505427
You are extremely delusional. That's not a "petite girly body", I can see your shoulders expanding out from your massive rib cage, and you've got no hips at all you bony fraud. It's one thing to have confidence in yourself, it's quite another to start talking shit based on features you don't even possess.
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>>5505734
confirmed for fat jelly hon,to scared to post own pics
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>>5505696
There is always special cases and scenarios for things, and you can certainly not convince me that they're an majority for all insecure trannies out there.
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>>5505771
Sure, but I'm just saying it's not just a matter of courage and willpower. You need to be in a position where you actually have the ability to do something about it.
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>>5505794
The degree of how much you're willing to do something about it depends on your courage and willpower, leaving out those special cases ofcourse.
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>>5499128
I'm a male identified as a male, and this still bugs me. I don't like having so much facial hair, many guys don't. People are jealous of it until they have to deal with it. Though some just say it because they want you to feel better about yourself.

>>5499389
better than just having long hair and a beard and having a kid ask if I'm an okama then calling me either okama, or anonko-chan the entire weekend of the camp.

>>5500123
>"god, women are fucking useless and crazy. am i right anon?"
to be fair girls say the same about guys and say it to guys too. I don't know if it's because I'm not trans, but I don't get bothered by it because it's just something both genders say.

>>5500410
the penis game is a legit game, it starts with quietly saying penis then someone says it louder, rinse and repeat until someone won't scream it.

>>5503835
To be fair this is an issue for non-trans too.
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>"You're so curvy!"
>"Don't say that, you don't look like a man/have man hands/get mistaken for a guy at all!"
>"Your boobs are huge!"

:^(
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>>5505832
>>5505683
>>5505247
>Parents likely to kick me out if they knew I was trans
>Let me mooch off of them
>Dad transferred a college program to me that will pay me monthly for housing despite the fact I'm living at parents place for free
>gonna have a pretty alright paying job for someone with few qualifiers for the next few months and I have literally no expenses
>If everything goes ideally I'll be able to afford every surgery I intend to get by the end of the year

It's not always a matter of fear or laziness, I'd just be too stupid if I didn't stay in the closet for now.
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>>5506145
So you're trying to cheat the system? Go fuck yourself.
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>>5506159
Idealism is so cute. You'll grow out of it eventually, anon.
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>>5506159
Cheat the system? Don't be salty you don't have it as good. My parents love me and I'm lucky, sadly a good portion of that loves likely gonna get thrown down the toilet when I do come out, but I might as well enjoy it while I can.
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>>5506159
muh morals, literally being a c͏uck of the system if you dont cheat it.
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>>5506159
So rational behavior = cheating the system?
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>>5506173
aw, that's cute, you can't give a good argument as to why what anon is doing is a good thing.

>>5506209
My parents did kick me out, mom kicked me out for experimenting with pot, dad kicked me out when he found out I was bi. If you can't stand on your own in the real world you don't deserve to stand at all.

>>5506212
how so? do tell faggot.

>>5506215
rational behaviour? the fuck is that rational? (yes let me take this money that can be going to help someone who actually needs financial help to go to university to do something for myself that isn't related at all because my parents are letting me live with them)
Fuck so many faggots, no wonder this is /lgbt/
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>>5506145
I don't have a problem with that, my beef is with people who bitch about being misgendered when theyre too much of a pussy to deal with it. (or too less :^) )
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>>5506277
>rational behaviour? the fuck is that rational? (yes let me take this money that can be going to help someone who actually needs financial help to go to university to do something for myself that isn't related at all because my parents are letting me live with them)
Self-preservation is the very basis of rational behavior. People do things that benefit them.
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>>5506277
>My parents did kick me out, mom kicked me out for experimenting with pot, dad kicked me out when he found out I was bi. If you can't stand on your own in the real world you don't deserve to stand at all.
Many people don't simply have the resources to do that. There's no rational reason to throw your life away like that.
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>>5505427
perfect twink body
10/10 - ign
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>>5506315
>self preservation
bitch is at home with their parents, they don't have any worry about preserving themself; They didn't come out to their parents and living with them. Do you even logic?

>>5506322
I didn't have teh resources at first, I was fucking homeless for a good month or two, got a friend to let me "sleep over" so their mom wouldn't freak out that I was trying to stay there. ended up using his house as my residence when I put in work and college applications. ended up working full time while getting some financial aid for school and moved into a small apartment with my friend. he got a girlfriend to move in with us to lower the rent more, and I ended up getting my bf to move in part time (lived with us on weekends) so he would throw in food money but that was it. I worked my ass off instead of trying to cheat the system. It isn't throwing your life away. Either grow up or shut the fuck up. either way stop cheating the system and be a functional member of society, or just die.
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>>5504299
that's weird. it was like that with us, except the "skins" took off their shorts instead. never heard of "shirts and skins"
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>>5504970
....no it doesn't. you either lose valuable (even if upsetting) feedback if they start walking on eggshells, or they don't stop and now it's just to make you feel bad which is even worse. if you already looked feminine then there wouldn't be any problems. coming out before you're many months into hormones is just silly tbqhwyf
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>>5505590
because some people don't want to relegate themselves forever to LGBT groups to avoid "bigots," just to be dropped in a few years when we stop being "oppressed" enough to get them progressive points
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>>5506277
>es let me take this money that can be going to help someone who actually needs financial help to go to university to do something for myself that isn't related at all because my parents are letting me live with them
Sorry buddy, but even if I didn't take the money it's not like they'd give it away to some little orphan or anything, at most I'm fucking over either of my younger sisters, but they're smart, they can find their own way through college. There's literally no reason why what I'm doing would be morally wrong unless you consider being in the closet wrong for not being entirely honest with my parents, but you were in the closet to so you've got no ground to speak salty hon. Your "can be going to help someone who actually needs financial help" shit is just you trying to come off as selfless but it's literally a "Starving africans could have eaten that" tier argument.
>If you can't stand on your own in the real world you don't deserve to stand at all.
I could be independent, it just doesn't make sense to at this point in time.
>either way stop cheating the system and be a functional member of society, or just die.
What system am I even cheating? You really do just seem salty my life is going better than yours has.
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>>5506537
>but even if I didn't take the money it's not like they'd give it away to some little orphan or anything
bitch did I say anything about orphans? don't try to stawmen this.
>There's literally no reason why what I'm doing would be morally wrong
You're taking money that can be used to another student who is stuggling to stay in school because they were in my position of having to work full time while going to school
>but it's literally a "Starving africans could have eaten that" tier argument.
Again strawman because that shit isn't even related. starving africans 1) are in a different coutnry, and 2) you've got the food already because someone gave it to you or you bought it.
What we're dealing with is you accepting money that you don't need that could be given to someone that does need it. If you don't understand the difference how are you even smart enough to be in university?
>What system am I even cheating? You really do just seem salty my life is going better than yours has.
the school is the system in this case, but with how you're acting you're probably going to try to get on welfare and food stamps like a little bitch.
I am all for people ho are going better than me; if they're doing better than me from their own fucking work.
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>>5506710
>You're taking money that can be used to another student who is stuggling to stay in school because they were in my position of having to work full time while going to school

Except that's literally not true and bullshit. My dad could only transfer it to me or one of my siblings. My older sister dropped out of college and my younger sisters are still middleschool/early highschool. No one's fucking missing out. Stop trying to disguise your jealousy like it's some type of selflessness and be real about it. You're a jealous shit and you're salty as fuck.
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>>5506799
2 things:
1) nice dubs.
>Dad transferred a college program to me that will pay me monthly for housing despite the fact I'm living at parents place for free
2) the way it's stated doesn't make it inherently clear that it's only available to your family, which still doesn't make any sense. I'm not jealous of a bitch who doesn't know how to do shit for herself. because I got work experience and school out of the deal. I just don't like there being bitches who basically take shit they don't need when someone else can use it. I've known too many people who do that shit, and I've called them all out on it. It's not being jealous or salty, it's wanting shit to actually go to who needs it.
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>>5506889
>I got work experience and school out of the deal
And I will too. The only money I get to spend as I please is for housing, and I only get that if I'm going to college. And my dads hooking me up with a job that he and his colleagues make an average of around $70000 off of. It's not like I'm just being given free money, I'm just in a cool situation and taking advantage of it.
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>>5505312
>5'3
>Kinda large ass
>Hips don't lie
>Small shoulders
>Very soft and smooth skin
>Little hair growth
>Not dark voice
>Petite
W-wanna fuck, desu senpai?
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>>5507190
yes, lets make hawt transbian sex
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>>5506957
damn, what job; if I may ask. Also do you think there will be issues of coming out as trans when you get into that job?
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>>5507216
Y-you top or bottom?
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>>5507232
more bottom/sub usually.
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>>5507253
;_____;
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>>5507267
like this wasnt obvious
>transgirls
>not bottom and sub as hell lel
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>>5506455
Wait, so you played in your underwear? I guess I'm glad I didn't need to do that at least.
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>>5505748
Whatever you have to tell yourself, bucko.
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>>5507289
YES BUT I HOPED I WOULD GET FUCKED
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>>5507334
same i want to get banged and suck femdick badly.
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>>5507358
L-let's just cuddle then
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>>5507421
i love cuddling, or we 69 through
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>>5504949
literally my dad, I too would wnat to fuck her yeah, but why do you need to be so explicit aout it?, I'm sure he just does it to make woman feel uncomfortable
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>>5507589
>Have girl friend over
>"So son, y'all fucked yet?"
>We have, but my gf looked bothered by the question and I don't know what to say
>"Kinda"

It was terrible, both my dad and my gf looked so simultaneously disappointed in me.
>>5507297
I think he's trying to goof you. Like I think he's going for a penis-inspection-day type joke.

If not then that's really weird I've never heard of kids having to take of their shorts to play ball during gym.
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>>5507624
>have gf
why you do this anon?
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>visit family for holidays
>"wow your hair is so long now anon I bet I could braid it"
>whole house laughing at how ridiculous it looks
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>>5497011
>wow anon, you're eating so much! Guess you gotta eat a lot to grow up BIG and STRONG
>anon you should eat X, it'll put hair on your chest
>haha anon, guess you gotta eat so much cuz ur a GROWING BOY
I mean I barely eat anything ever and I swear I hear this all the time
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>>5497011
on the bright side you got dubs


>tfw you only were called a gril when playing CS once
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OPPOSITE TIME

>bored
>put my boobs only on chatroulette
>cis girl comes on
>"nice boobs. Bigger than mine"
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>>5505680
Tell me about it.
>tall female friend constantly pointing out how small I am
>patting my head
>calling me 'tiny anon'
>always telling her to cut it out
>"we're the same though, we both have height problems because I'm so tall and you're so short!"
>"it's fine, you love me!"
>ps I never say that to anyone much less her, most people know I am one prickly son of a bitch
>other friends get uncomfortable, able to tell how pissed I am
>at some point, snap and tell her to leave it the fuck alone just for one day, jesus
>suddenly I'm the bad guy
>don't cross paths with her much after that
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>>5509613

>at beach with friends
>female friend says I have a really feminine hip structure
>fact that I've always been skinny (so has she) has been an inside jokeish thing for years
>other female friend agrees
>female friend one "I know, right? seriously!"

that made me feel nice, even thought possibly being trans hadn't even crossed my mind really at that point.

I'm the >>5503357 anon, just so the good and bad even out. sometimes here on 4chan.gov we need to hear nice stories too.
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>why are you so short anon, your brother a foot taller than you!

>mom: you're so weak, even I'm more muscular than you!

>you should lose a bit of weight, you're starting to look curvy like a girl (im skinnyfat)

>friend: this is my friend anon, he's in college
>nig: why does he look like he 10 then

>woah anon, you sounded like a 12 year old girl just now!

>male friend: anon is cute
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>>5510070
iktfb
>short people are stereotyped as angry
>people make fun of you for being short
>tell them to stop
>"aww you're so mad :3 its cute"
>"people like short girls better anyway :^)"
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>>5507439
YES PLEASE
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>>5510098
>hanging out with female cousins
>drinking can sodas
>open my can easily
>"anon I wish I had your nails"
>"I know right!"

'ω'
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>>5510232
That kind of shit is why I'm so aggressive by default, it's impossible to assert myself and have people take me seriously otherwise. And people tend not to call you cute if you're a generally unpleasant person. It's not a good life but it's my life.
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>>5504210
Sometimes I think that it is good that I'm autistic so other peoples dissapointment doesn't really bother me.
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>>5505748
I love you! Seriously, the reason I stick around here is because 90% of trans girls have been driven this fucking crazy from the dysphoria. You get a pretty body after being starved of attention for your development and suddenly you're god and a real tranny better than all those other hons on the internet. Anyone who disagrees with you is just an ugly bitch who is jelous that people are paying attention to you now, and you're going to let them know it!
Be you because who you are is a beautiful flaming star that everyone wants to watch.
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>>5510673
This is why men die young. What's asserting yourself win you, anyway?
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>>5504398

Do you also think, "That will teach her once I'm dead"? I do.
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I wasnt ready for these feels
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you guys are a bunch of fags
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>>5511586
Assertiveness gets you respect, don't know why anyone wouldn't want that. And most men can assert without aggressiveness, which I can't do so if anything I'm going to be the one to get my shit kicked in.
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>>5519576
no shit
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>>5507635
>why you do this anon?
Do what? Have(well actually had) a girlfriend?
>>5515222
Actually I don't. In fact if I did so I'd hope that when my parents would be going through my stuff after I died that they wouldn't google what my hrt pills are for and just remain forever ignorant to the fact I was trans.
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>>5500246
Hey, I tried hooking up with you ladies but every one of you rejected me because I wasn't an extroverted alpha male, and because I wanted a genuine loving relationship.

Too late now. I've given in to what I've desired out of myself most of all. At least this is going to make me happy, unlike the women who I wanted to make happy who didn't have mutual feelings.

It's probably better this way anyway. If I had gotten into a relationship I might have deluded myself into thinking I wasn't trans for who knows how much longer.

Starting at 25 was late enough already. If I had to start any later I might have just killed myself on principal.
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>>5521126
NiceGuy (tm)
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>>5521274
Not sure what you're saying here, Anonymous.
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>>5500123
This is almost creepy - I've heard literally every single one of these, down to being sent away to the place all the men are and being told twice a day I should cut my hair and being super awkward and not knowing what to do when my classmates in highschool/college start talking about what they want to do to girls in bed.
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>picking up little sister from her friend's house to bring her back to mother's house
>roll up to driveway
>little sister's friend says, "wow, your mom is cute."

I don't even take anything, I just look naturally girly
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>>5500123
>>"fuck dude, i would fuck her so hard, look at that ass, am i right, bro?" other guy: "yeah, jizz all over her face. you see her anon?" tfw Girl they're talking about is within hearing distance the entire time.

>be trans girl that is still attracted to girls
>these sorts of situations still made me uncomfortable when I was living as a male anyway

>always spend a lot of time grooming my hair and general appearance before going out
>"Wow anon, you're just like a girl, what the hell."

>come out as trans
>"Wow, I can't believe it, I never would have thought."

>mfw
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>>5507624
>I've never heard of kids having to take of their shorts to play ball during gym.
It happened in my school as well. Though the teacher didn't force them to take their shirts off - the boys divided themselves in two teams to play football (what Americans incorrectly call "soccer") and since they didn't have uniforms half of them took their shirts off to be recognizable as part of that team and the other half kept theirs. It was summer in like May so it was fine.

I was so embarrassed I pretended to have stomach age, got called pussy and traitor and faggot and sat out the game.
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>>5521126
(You'll probably have more success with transgirls now that you're a transgirl yourself anyways.)
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>>5497011

>When your father says, "If you see a girl that likes you at university, don't ignore her. They feel an intense desire for companionship. Their longing for a man is painful to them. You could ease their pain by being their strapping young man."
>He doesn't know I know these feelings from first hand experience, and if he did know, he would be mad instead of sympathetic like he is with the cis girls
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>>5523180
I hope you find your strapping young man, Anonymous.
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>>5523186

Thanks, anon. I'm not holding out any hope, though.
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>>5502399
Shave your head. It's amazing to ditch the gender role and watch people reevaluate you as a person. I have also been "blessed" with great tits... I'm giving it another 10 years just in case I opt for a kid, but then they're coming off. I remember being flat and it was great!
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