Do you guys think eventually we are going to have to set up a one world government to protect LGBTQ people from discrimination and murder?
>>5481879
No
>>5481884
Why?
>>5481889
Because in this day and age the basis of one principle for a system of governence is reductionist and incompatible with modern society. Particularly one which only affects a fraction of society.
Also many countries legally have laws that protect homos and faggots, and are slowly coming around to enforcing them more and more.
>>5481879
god no never do that
Globalism has brought us nothing but horrors, countries need to be isolationist and take care of themselves again. The modern world is falling apart
>>5481904
>Globalism has brought us nothing but horrors,
World government isn't globalism.
>>5481884
>straight
Not with that lone earring buckaroo
>>5481901
>Also many countries legally have laws that protect homos and faggots, and are slowly coming around to enforcing them more and more.
That's not a good argument anon. The fact that there are still countries that enact the death penalty for LGBT people means we need world wide governance on this issue.
Plus there is no reason we should have a bunch of tiny little nations fighting over resources and shit, while global warming is potentially going to kill us all.
>>5481912
world government would be made possible by globalism and globalism would be made far worse by it
>>5481904
>>globalism has brought us nothing but horrors
>He says as he posts from his computer/phone that was manufactured and assembled in multiple countries
>>5481932
and it's why whatever you do with those devices is recorded on a chinese government webserver
>>5481918
yeah that would never work and would just make the shitskins chimp out more than they are already
>>5481925
>it's for none of us to export our ideals to them.
So you would be perfectly ok if some countries enacted slavery, funded terrorism, have nuclear weapons, etc.?
>>5481925
>>it's for none of us to export our ideals to them
>what is the universal declaration of human rights
>>5481931
World wide government would be socialist, not globalist.
Considering Europe is letting in millions of middle easterners? No. We are no longer the sacred holy cow of liberals. They no longer care about us or our safety. Once gay marriage became legal in a few country they pretty much said "Fuck you got your's" then opened the flood gates for millions to be murdered by people who think it's okay to murder us because a fairy tale book says so.
>>5481952
you're using globalist like a braindead socialist
it doesn't mean evil capitalists stealing your money by not giving you theirs
kill yourself you disgusting faggot
>>5481959
>Considering Europe is letting in millions of middle easterners?
Again what does this have to do with world wide government?
World wide government would lead to world wide peace and no wars, thus removing the need to refugees. And less poverty = less religiousness.
>>5481972
>kill yourself you disgusting faggot
/pol/ ----->
Join the rest of the retarded Alex Jones nuts.
>>5481973
you are retardo
>>5481973
>Again what does this have to do with world wide government?
Because when one nation falls the rest do. It's the domino affect. Also liberals are all in on this shit on a global scale. Just look at how British liberals try to influence Americans to vote for Hillary on twitter.
Liberals are nothing but contrarians and used us as a way to make their parents mad and conservatives are nothing but angry old people mad that the world isn't the 1950s as told by Hollywood anymore.
>>5481981
>you are retardo
Good comment.
>>5481973
Too bad for all it's benefits, it will remain unattainable for the foreseeable and mid term future.
>>5481990
thanks senpai
>>5481990
your infantile assertions are pretty shit too, fa.m
>>5481988
Excellent insight Anon.
>>5481994
>it will remain unattainable for the foreseeable and mid term future.
That's because the powers that be, the capitalist class, won't allow it. However, with the global warming crisis going to be a full blown world wide crisis in the next 50 years from now, I expect a world wide government established to fight this simply for the survival of the human race itself.
That's when things like global carbon taxes and mass arrests of the fossil fuel polluters happen.
tldr - Climate change leads to communism world wide.
>>5481937
The Chinese government has no jurisdiction here. Why should I care what they know about me?
>>5481996
Thanks
>>5481978
No actually kys
>>5482013
Ignoring for a moment the fact that abolishing private ownership of the means of production will create problems on it's own, how will adopting communism avert the global warming crises?
Goods and services requiring fossil fuels will still be produced, since some of them are vital, and the only way that global warming would be averted is if large improvements in technology and efficiency happened make fossil fuels obsolete.
>>5482013
It'll just turn turn into fascism
Communism is impossible
What if world gov criminalizes lgbt OP?
>>5481879
Rich master race is already putting one in place. What on earth makes you think we have a choice in the matter?
>>5482033
>Ignoring for a moment the fact that abolishing private ownership of the means of production will create problems on it's own, how will adopting communism avert the global warming crises?
Things like energy usage should not be left up to private corporations. Things like franking, off shore drilling, etc. would never happen if we democratized our energy usage.
The main reason green energy hasn't taken off yet is because of the capitalist class.
The point I'm trying to get at is should questions of energy usage be left up to a few CEOs in a company or democratically?
>>5482037
>What if world gov criminalizes lgbt OP?
Would never happen. You think Europe, America (under Obama), Australia, etc. would allow that?
>>5482040
>Rich master race is already putting one in place. What on earth makes you think we have a choice in the matter?
The difference is we need a communist world wide government, not an oligarchic one. Two very different things.
>>5482063
Hmmmm. I think you would have to explain this more in depth to me.
>>5482058
But what if it did? You would have no alternative, no place to go. That's why world gov is bad.
>>5482076
There are two kinds of world wide governments emerging.
One is fascist. The one emerging under trade agreements like TPP, which allow private corporations to rule over us in a neo-fedual slave society.
The other, the one I see emerging eventually, is a communist. We are seeing time and time again the failure of capitalism, be it the 2008 crash or the climate change crisis. With both becoming more and more frequent, the capitalist class will not be able to deal with this situation using our current economic model. So communism would be the model they would adopt in order for the survival of the human race as a specie on this planet. That means eventually redistributing food and water to everyone on the planet as the effects of green house gasses get worse. Total bans on the use of fossil fuels and enactment of global carbon taxes.
>>5482106
>That's why world gov is bad.
That's not a good example retard.
If x can turn into a space unicorn that means x is wrong and should never be tried. Total bullshit argument. If you were in college I would flunk you for such a retarded argument.
>>5482106
But we already have no place to go...
>>5482114
What exactly is wrong with a space unicorn?
>>5481879
>United gaytions
I'm in
>>5481879
yes, and we need it to implant bio-metric scanners that measure and track people's privilege points, and to implant men with estrogen laced butt plugs to turn them into impotent sissies in order to extinct the human as a gigantic satanic ritual.
>>5482114
the world at large doesn't give a shit about gay rights you mental midget, only the west does
in a world government you'd be lucky if sodomy was decriminalized
>>5482058
Europe is being overrun by Muslims and they'll likely have laws pandering to their subhuman beliefs in a couple decades. Social conservatism is slowly rising back again in the U.S. after all the SJW bullshit. Don't know about Australia. Last I heard their government was conservative.
Politics are fucking retarded and platitudes keep swinging back and forth every few decades. The entire world shouldn't be subject to such instability.
>>5482238
as long as Islam becomes moderate and adopt western sensibilities who am I kidding...
>>5482238
>and they'll likely have laws pandering to their subhuman beliefs in a couple decades.
Lol religion will die out in a couple of decades from now. You seriously think religion can exist in the age of the iphone.
>>5482211
And the west would likely be the one that's creating the world government.
"Lets put all of the power into the hands of one government, restrict private weapons sales, and then we will be okay, because the government loves us!"
This is how I read bullshit like this. OP is a fucking moron. Your responsible for your own well being, no one else.
>>5482382
Wow. Sorry anon. But that's bullshit. If we were responsible for our own wellbeing, people wouldn't have their lives destroyed because some arrogant rich fuck got offended.
>>5482364
Trump 2016
>>5481879
>one world government to protect LGBTQ people from discrimination and murder?
>expecting breeders to care about gay rights
Dohohohohohohohohohoho
>>5481879
>actually wishing for the disintegration of national identity and rights so that LGBTQXYZs who seek their alternative sex life can become a protected species by the one world order
Kill yourself faggot. It's useful idiots like you that paint leggbutts as pets of the democratic party to do with as they please.
Reminder that armed LGBTs don't get bashed.
>>5482928
>voting for a party that supports your rights makes you a "useful idiot"
No, it's called being a non-retarded voter. That's literally how democracy works. Should we just vote for people at random rather than voting for people that are willing to protect our rights?
>Reminder that armed LGBTs don't get bashed.
Which really has nothing to do with the topic. Do you have to spam this copypasta in every thread?
>>5482946
> Should we just vote for people at random rather than voting for people that are willing to protect our rights?
LGB marriage isn't a right though. The decision was pushed through by the supreme court in defiance of the 10th amendment.
Also, there are many issues besides gay "rights". The fact that your decisions making begins and ends with 'LGBT' means you're exactly the kind of useful idiot I described.
>Which really has nothing to do with the topic. Do you have to spam this copypasta in every thread?
It has everything to do with the topic. The OP is asking if we should have a global federal state to police the actions of everyone on earth. Such dramatic infringements are not necessary in a populace that can defend itself. It seems extremely selfish to me to strip the rights of the world so that leggbutts can be a protected species.
>>5482989
>LGB marriage isn't a right though. The decision was pushed through by the supreme court in defiance of the 10th amendment.
If you're going by that interpretation, then literally every civil rights law since the 19th century has been unconstitutional. Besides, rights don't really exist until they're a law.
> Such dramatic infringements are not necessary in a populace that can defend itself.
If the populace NEEDS to defend itself, then it's not a civilized society. Defending yourself should be a last resort, something that comes up less than once a lifetime.
>>5482017
sell the data to anybody willing to pay. "Our new candidate is gay", "Next!"..
>>5482058
Would we have a choice? Be careful. Huge chunks of the world are anti LGBT.
>>5483012
>If you're going by that interpretation, then literally every civil rights law since the 19th century has been unconstitutional. Besides, rights don't really exist until they're a law.
What is the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments of the Constitution? If you'd like to make gay marriage a constitutional right you're free to try. That is after all why the constitution was made to be amended from the beginning. But you can't enforce legislation based purely on what you think is "best" for the rest of the populace.
>If the populace NEEDS to defend itself, then it's not a civilized society. Defending yourself should be a last resort, something that comes up less than once a lifetime.
It's not the need, it's the right. Nobody wants to have their life endangered, but they have the right to protect if it so comes to it. The right to defend oneself does not just end at singular aggressors though, it is also the protection from corrupt rulership. Leaving a society at the whim of a one world order is the least civilized of all the alternatives.
>>5483075
>What is the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments of the Constitution? If you'd like to make gay marriage a constitutional right you're free to try. That is after all why the constitution was made to be amended from the beginning. But you can't enforce legislation based purely on what you think is "best" for the rest of the populace.
Pretty sure that it was determined that NOT legalizing gay marriage would have been in violation of the 14th amendment.
>>5483101
Except marriage isn't included in the privileges mentioned in the 14th amendment. Even before gay marriage the specifics of straight marriage was delegated by each state. There were no federal mandates on how straight marriage is dealt with. That's why you still have states where the husband is assumed as the head of the house, and other deviations which occur across the country. Marriage has always been at the behest of the states.
>>5483146
You can't move the goalpost in every single post. You can either appeal to authority by saying that gay marriage is unconstitutional, or you can say that retarded Christians shouldn't abide by the Supreme Court's decision because it's of the devil. You can't use both arguments at the same time.
>>5483146
That section of the 14th amendment doesn't specifically mention any other privileges either.
>>5482346
ISIS is using iphones and digitally made/edited videos to recruit and organize themselves so of course it "can exist on the same age of iphone".
>>5481879
You do realize any organization powerful enough to enforce a global anti-lgbt discrimination law is also powerful enough to enforce a global anti-lgbt acceptance law. To give someone or a group of people ultimate power over your life and expecting them and their successors to never be assholes is moronic. Governments should be big enough to protect us but small enough that we can protect ourselves when some asshole comes into power.
>>5481879
I think that solution may be worse than the problem(s) it proposes to solve.
