Halloween edition
what are you wearing this year,/tlg/?
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>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez
>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
previous:
>>5109939
we don't really do helloween...
I would love to be able to pull of Rize in pic related... but that's super unrealistic and I can't find anywhere that sells a Multicam skirt.
Anyone know how to make skirts or know anyone who specializes in making skirts?
I want a custom made Multicam tactical skirt, with... like... a Kevlar liner... NIJ Level 3A skirt!
>>5144704
Oh wait... that's not even GochiUsa...
But we all know its inspired by it.
>what are you wearing this year,/tlg/?
Clothes.
I'll probably splurge on discount Halloween stuff as usual though.
>what are you wearing this year,/tlg/?
Nothing, I'm going to sit sit at home and give out candy while getting drunk.
>>5144010
being trans is suffering so eat as many bananas as possible on spiro
>>5144049
for real though, my diet has so many potatoes, and grains, and I love salmon, and my potassium is always fine, and I sit on my ass all day, so don't worry about it
>>5144951
To add to that, heavy hydration will reduce the risks of potassium retention.
>>5144960
Hydration should be taken into account even if you're using other AAs than spiro. Little to no testosterone means a much lower anabolism, and thus a heavier load on the kidneys. A low protein diet can't hurt while on HRT...
I'm still in the closet, so I really want to dress up as a girl "as a joke." Don't really have the money to do a decent job, though.
>>5145178
>Don't really have the money to do a decent job, though.
Goodwill for clothing, target for ELF makeup kits, get the cheapest drugstore foundation that matches your skin.
Like... less than 50 bucks, go sell some shit at a pawn shop if you really want it.
My hobby is drag. So, for halloween i'm going as Drag-Jesus. Of course i do not want to offense religious people... But i accidentally bought a wig which makes me look like jesus ...
>>5145187
Yeah, I don't have that much money. I'm deep in involuntarily-NEET mode. I can ask my parents for money but uh no, not for this, not yet.
>>5145218
sell blood/plasma? come on sis, don't give up so easily.
>>5145256
Well, it's still a good time to go shopping for a qt skirt if you are the type that gets anxious about shopping. You can just Say it's for a costume. Eh, I'm NEET right now too and I have been selling all my shit to pay for mones so I know what it's like to be broke as fug.
I just read the Greer Thread and looked at the TERFs' reddit. That was some shit. I keep seeing the accusation that when trans women are rejected by feminists we become violent aggressive men. I have been around enough trans groups to know that there really are a small minority of hun fetishists that do this, but mostly they target us not cis women; my experience has been more often that getting rejected and told it's because you have a man body leads to a lot of crying, insecurity, and possible ice cream. What have you seen?
>tldr; Do you see trans women rejected by women more often being cryballs or apists?
>also, have you seen the hun fetishist trying to prey on the young trans woman?
Would a trans lesbian date another trans lesbian?
If no, how can you expect a cis lesbian to date you?
>>5145349
Oh they do.
>>5145349
Yes. That's it.
But also, because I guess I'm more from a prospective about being attracted to someone physically, emotionally, mentally, socially, and not genitally. I know that's not everyone, but you can't act high and mighty while saying you aren't dating a person because you don't like their genitals.
>>5145335
Well, my last ex was a terf and a self-proclaimed asexual, which suited me just fine since I really loathe sex. Except that in the end, she asked for some. I obliged, but made sure it stayed over my belt. "I love you, but being in bed with you feels like doing it with a woman and that's not my thing." More or less her break-up line. I think I broke a lot of her certitudes that night, mostly that transpeople were just fantasising and that she was 100% straight. Pity, she'd fare a lot better in a relationship with a woman than she ever did with guys...
Also, I'm a feminist and it seems I'm pretty hard to clock. So I've had terfs at lesbian bars trying to get me to join them in harassing some poor non-passing "trans" guys who had to claim they loved their own dick and that feminism was crap. I don't like the type that much and a lesbian dive really is the last place for them to spout that kind of nonsense about what it means to be trans. Was nearly tempted to side with the terfs once or twice, really.
>>5145402
Wow, the first girl I ever dated was pretty much the same and ended it for the same reason.
As an even less reason to be in a lesbian bar, have you encountered the random straight guy wondering the place? There is one at every lesbian bar.
>At lesbian dive with friend, getting drunk on a Tuesday.
>Random straight guy keeps harassing us and being a nuisance.
>Eventually the flamboyantly gay bar tender tells him, "I don't know what you're doing. I'm not going to suck your dick and these ladies sure aren't gonna, so just stop."
>Straight guy left, but only after drunkenly hitting on an older transwoman.
>Thanks, Kevin.
>Thevin.
>>5145443
>implying any straight guy would try and flirt with you.
transbians
>>5145443
Well, a straight guy wouldn't know where to find the kind of places I go to. Or even stumble upon them. Community run dives catering to the mature crowd that look nothing like bars on the outside.
Now, the party-oriented bars young lesbians go to? I can picture straight guys trying their luck there. I almost never go to those unless a friend drags me there, though. Being surrounded by drunk and horny girls that are young enough to be my daughter makes me kind of uncomfortable.
>TFW FINALLY GOT HRT :DDD
>>5144575
If I do anything I'll wear my silver lame overalls, a blond wig, space helmet and be a space farmer. Unfortunately I'm having two cracked molars pulled Friday morning. I doubt I'll be in any shape to do any partying all weekend.
I should invest in a junketsu for next year though.
>>5145335
I don't know. The only trans people I know outside the internet are FtMs, street kids, and a small handful of goths.
Hons are... interesting though. But I don't know whether to chalk that up to envy or anger. Probably both.
>>5145349
>Would a trans lesbian date another trans lesbian?
Yes.
>If no, how can you expect a cis lesbian to date you?
See above, but people have their personal preferences too.
>>5145365
We need to go deeper.
>>5145564
Congrats anon.
>>5145443
a guy groped my ass in a lesbian bar....
and then he tried to teach me how to play pool so he could get closer to me
>>5145564
yay, gz
>tfw I got a date for surgery
>>5145627
you should build a rocket in your barn
I was going to go as the new harley quinn, but with the move and everything i haven't had a chance to finish the costume, so i think im going to give it a miss this year as i dont have any backups really other than generic animu schoolgirl, and i dont really fancy wearing that.
>>5145564
YAY!
>>5145349
>date transwomen
I have in the past, but these days i'd only date post-op tbh, penis just isnt for me
>how can you expect a cis lesbian to date you?
I dont expect shit from other people, i let them know after a few minutes of talking with them, and if they wanna continue, then that's cool with me.
>>5145971
Over a decade ago I designed a coil gun that theoretically should be able to launch a 5" shell into high orbit or possibly even escape earth's clutches totally.
This is a toy one I made for public demonstrations. It was designed with just electromagnetic enough force to shoot 1" steel bearings with about enough force to go up 4 meters vertical. Yep, quite weak, but it demonstrates a sensor controlled coil gun and it could be brought into a classroom. I demonstrated it a couple times at the Science Museum in St Paul, and at a couple science fiction conventions. The coil assembly is in the upper right. The colored wires are for the optical sensors that sense the ball's location. The thin copper wires are for the coils. I put over 200 amps through them for very short periods. If I left one of the coils on for a second it would burn up from the resistance in the wire. For each shot the first coil, which is on the longest, raises around 12C in temperature in less than a 100th of a second.
>>5146087
>first coil
should be third coil
Here is the first coil wrapped around the cardboard tube. The tube looks shiny because I used balsa glue to stabilize the tube and hold the dividers in place. The holes you can see in the dividers are for the optical sensors.
Even without the calculations I did, this coil gun could be designed and made by any reasonably intelligent person.
>>5146038
>tfw non-op/pre-op trans women are literally at the bottom of the dating totem pole, no one will ever love us except other non/pre-ops and chasers
we are basically just social castoffs that people pretend to like ;-;
>>5146170
there's always bi-girls, or i guess very open minded lesbians, i've sexed/dated a few lesbians and bi girls and im still pre-op atm, so i wouldnt say it's a lost cause, but the dating pool is definitely smaller.
>>5145871
The deeper I go the scarier things I uncover. And no one believes me about any of it.
>>5146383
face it, we're lepers that society doesn't want, only other broken trans people want anything to do with us
i wish i was normal
>>5146400
i dont think so personally, or at least my experiences dont match that, considering im engaged to a cis lez atm.
Afternoon all
>>5146434
>>5146400
I personally think I'd be doing okay with dating if not for the agoraphobia. It's the lack of being out and about that kills my dating life more then anything.
>>5146383
>>5146170
Bigirls are viable. Pangirls if you're okay with them work amazingly.
>>5145349
I have before, I would again if it worked out well I suppose. But I admit I doubt I could date a trans-girl early or pre-hrt.
>>5145985
Pretty sure I'm not finishing my costume in time, been sick the past several days. Phooey. I'll still keep working on it for fun though
>>5145564
Congratulations anon
>>5145443
I've never got quite the blatant hitting on people that aren't interested thing but it happens so ridiculously often. I just don't get guys like that.
>>5145335
>because you have a man body leads to a lot of crying, insecurity, and possible ice cream. What have you seen?
I don't think I've actually spoke with someone who got enraged over it, yea sorrow/tears/dysphoria seems to be the norm.
>>5146489
I'm just giving up on being a normal person and accepting that I am a freak that society politely tolerates but in reality wants nothing to do with me
>>5146489
yeah i can imagine agoraphobia is a big burden, i couldnt imagine having that.
and ah yeah, i completely forgot about pan girls, my bad.
>I just don't get guys like that.
i just think it depends on the area and situation, i've had straight guys hit on me in lesbian bars before, people waiting for me to walk home alone after work in the early mornings etc. like i said, depends on the area.
and yeah, im going to keep working on my costume, i'm also working on a scarlet witch cosplay, but im not very far on it atm.
>>5146170
I've accepted that I'm going to be alone until the day I die at this point.
Only three and a half more years until I'm a 30 year old virgin who has literally never had a girlfriend or boyfriend. :D
>>5146584
I'm past that already
>>5145349
Idk, if I rlly liked someone I'd totally try tho I'm dysphoric enough on my own and Idk how comfortable I'd be with it
I don't "expect" anyone to date me
>>5145469
actually last weekend when my partner and I went to some event things there was this one guy being kinda creepy complimenting me on my dress twice and kinda following me into a corner asking where I lived and stuff before my partner got between us
>>5145564
congrats!
I'm not looking forward to tomorrow. Two cracked molars get pulled. I don't know if the oral surgeon or assistants are trans friendly or not so my stomach is tied in knots.
In other news, I was gendered female by a the gal in the drive through
>>5146489
>>5146768
>>5145971
>>5145997
thank you friendos!
>>5146505
I'm not too worried about how everyone see's me, what matters most is how I and those closest to me see me
>>5146532
It certainly makes dating hard, but such is life.
There's also definitely varying levels of being hit on. Guys who are polite and take no are awesome, I can respect the courage to try (outside of maybe at a les bar/chatroom). But in general the skeevy ones always weird me out (ie the ones who don't take no for an answer)
>>5146833
Quite welcome
>>5146794
Ouch, best of wishes Syndie
>>5145349
>Would a trans lesbian date another trans lesbian?
no
>If no, how can you expect a cis lesbian to date you?
i don't
>>5146170
>>5146400
>no one will ever love us except other non/pre-ops and chasers
Not with that attitude they won't.
I'm about split between bi girls, lesbians, and pansexuals though as far as serious relationship things go. But y'know. You have to like yourself a bit first. That usually seems to be the most important thing.
>>5146489
Afternoon.
>>5146584
Well yeah, but then you get wizard powers. Then you can magic yourself into a qt girl.
>>5146794
That... does not sound fun. D:
Hope everything goes as well as it can though.
>>5146986
>tfw wizard powers not working
>>5146988
Did you update your character sheet?
>>5145349
If they're attractive, then absolutely. Genitals don't matter to me, so my preferences are a lot more flexible than a traditional lesbian's.
>>5146996
actually yeah, not so long ago
>>5147022
Ah, okay.
Well the newest edition of Dungeons and Dickgirls has a new method of casting it says. Instead of using enchanted horse urine like you used to have to do, now you have to use estrogen pills to enhance your latent magical girl powers. As an MTF wizard you can cast HRT twice per day by rolling 1d8 for dosage.
Just make sure to change your charisma score accordingly with every critical, of course.
>>5147002
so you'd take a fat girl dick in your vagina? some lesbian
>>5147166
How does I'd date a trans girl translate to I'd have PIV sex with a trans girl?
Unless you really believe that is the end all, be all of a relationship.
I'm currently happily dating my bi cis female partner who has been super supportive of my transition! There is hope!
Hang in there Anons!
Hmm. Halloween I am working, and I do totally get to dress up in a costume for it. I am going to be doing something, but I have not decided what yet.
However, I totally know what I am doing for Goth Industrial Fetish night this Sunday! I went with a girl friend shopping today and got my outfit all set. It's gonna be a bit risque for me so far, but it will definitely be super exciting.
I got a black and white lace bustier, along with a black miniskirt and black tights. I also got a whole ensemble of earrings, necklaces and bracelets going as well on this trip.
I also reconnected with an old girlfriend and she is totally gonna be there at the club too, like I knew she would be, as it totally was her kind of scene, and it is taking place in the town she lives in. Totally gonna meet her and have a great time, along with the other friends I am going with.
Anyone remember the post about a girl called Alex and that I fell for her and cryed on the train home Cos I thought I would never see her again. Well she's sleeping right next to me now, and the connection we share is really fucking deep.
>tfw cis and live in a very lgbt friendly city
>still been 2 years since i've had sex
end suffering
>>5145335
TERFs are vile human beings
>>5147263
>>5147278
D'aww.
>>5147267
Ooh. I like it. Well have fun.
>>5147288
Gotta get out there and meet some people then, definitely.
4th laser today still draining though not as bad as other 3 were on me, amount of pain besides upperlip and few other spots has really gone down though it was a lot more tolerable in a lot of areas on my face.
>>5145349
Yes of course I would.
>>5146170
I must be really lucky then to not be in that boat.
Also not planning to do anything for halloween, I've felt too old for it for a long time.
>>5147214
>says she'd date a transgirl
>doesn't want piv, barely knows how to give blowies
Ah, so you're one of those lesbians that make me waste my time instead of straight-up saying they don't want me. Thank god I only date bi girls
>>5147311
Yeah... I can't believe it either, she's the coolest girl in the room and was a stringent lesbain when I met her, Cos I only dated guys before she just thinks she turned a straight girl gay.
>>5146986
>Then you can magic yourself into a qt girl.
I don't think even magic could make me cute, haha.
>>5147325
>want to give piv
Ewww. I never had any interest in doing that pre-HRT, let alone now.
>>5147399
>don't have anything against piv or penis anything
Just kill me. I don't deserve to call myself a girl or a lesbian.
>>5147340
Hehe, awesome.
>>5147359
Iktf. No car and don't know where to meet people really. I suppose that's what the internet is for though.
>>5147392
>I don't think even magic could make me cuter, haha.
Ftfy. You look alright.
>>5147399
>>5147442
I dunno. I like piv or pi-anything really, but it's not the end all be all of sex either. And sex isn't the end all be all of a relationship.
Cuddling is more fun.
>>5147476
>Cuddling is more fun.
I can totally agree with that.
i lov all of u
lol fam I'm tryna get a hold of a gun an' stick it in my gabber and try my hand at reincarnation. I'd rather not be some gross ass 190 .lb hon with no friends living on SSI.
>>5147619
What if there is no reincarnation though? What if our existence is all just a test and you only get one chance at it?
Pre hrt australian here. Feeling frustrated and let down by the system, how do i find a psych who can actually help me? I saw a psychiatrist for 8 years until the end of 2013. She told me i was too immature at 16 to 19 to make a decision about my gender. Saw a psychologist for 10 weeks in early 2014, he was supposed to be a gender specialist, every time i brought up gender he deflected. Current psychotherapist also keeps deflecting from the topic.
Living close enough to sydney to travel frequently and conveniently there. Starting to lose any hope of ever finding help.
>>5147278
Cool!!! Good luck with the relationship.
>>5147325
I just don't like vaginal penetration at all, dick or dildo, it doesn't matter.
I'll admit I've never given a blowjob and wouldn't be chomping at the bit to do it, but if it'd make my girlfriend happy, I'd try my best.
>>5144489
My plan is to be a basic bitch. I spent a while building the outfit, and I'm so ready!
>>5145349
I'd date a trans girl, but they have to follow the same standards I set any cis woman to.
Be sexually active, don't be dysphoric all the time and ruin everything and make life shitty when it doesn't have to be, don't be crazy, don't look ugly or like a man, and don't be that annoying fucking trans girl that constantly makes me feel like shit because I'm passing and look good now. That fucking shit is so annoying.
If we get along well, you're attractive, and fill all the requirements, then I don't care whats in your pants tbh.
I've dated too many early trans people though in the past due to my co-dependence and I've had to just say enoughs enough. I've already gone through all that self figuring out and drama and shit, I don't want to guide someone else through it as they kick and scream the entire fucking time.
>>5147002
>>5147166
>>5147214
Seriously though I don't understand why people always fall back on piv sex. There's so many other things you can do, every couple is different and will find what they enjoy.
>>5147263
Good for you anon.
>>5147278
I don't remember it but congratulations anon, I'm so glad it worked out for you
>>5147288
Sometimes the timing is right, othertimes not so much. Deep breath anon, and good luck
>>5147317
Oh glad you're doing better. Yea I always found laser wore me out, no idea why though. I generally had to nap.
>>5147476
>Cuddling is more fun.
I'm a big fan of curling up, whispering sweet nothings and gentle kisses
>>5147564
Aw thank you, I hope your night is well
>>5147619
I'm not a fan of suicide and I don't support it, but if thats your decision I hope its quick and painless. The... weight thing is something fixable though, as is the lack of friends. SSI depends on why you have it though
>>5147845
Your best bet might be to look for local support groups
>>5147311
I will! I am really looking forward to it!
>>5147166
I never said I identified with the term lol. Too much feminist bullshit attached to it. Technically I'm bisexual, but I just say that I'm gay and proceed to laugh at the ensuing confusion.
Does anyone else here have massive problems falling asleep?
>>5148603
Yes, I couldn't get to sleep yesterday so I stayed up and ended up passing out at like.. 2 pm and I woke up at 10... ugh, this is awful. I hate when it happens but I don't want to take anything to put me to sleep.
>>5147845
I'm a kiwi, both our systems are copied from the poms I think. My gender/sexuality therapist mentioned she'd generally have to do 5-10 sessions before she'd have enough info to do the profile you need for a hormone consult, and she wants me to keep seeing her while I start, although less frequently. I've got my endo consult at the end of November, after maybe 10 times seeing her, but some of that is dealing with my other issues.
>>5148603
yeah, and I toss and turn and wake up a lot through the night from nausea and pain and stuff
>>5147392
you have to recompile yourself from source, cd /usr/ports/people/lain && make config, then untick the male box and select the female box, then make install clean, you'll be as good as new!
(if only it worked like that ;-;)
>>5147442
if it makes you feel any better you're not alone, I'm totally 100% okay with owning a penis
>>5147568
we'll cuddle some day if we're ever in Boston at the same time I promise!
>>5148049
>I've already gone through all that self figuring out and drama and shit, I don't want to guide someone else through it as they kick and scream the entire fucking time.
Don't you think that's awful selfish? People probably put up with you and tried to help you when you were kicking and screaming, and you don't feel like doing the least bit of support for someone else in return? I get that it's hard, nothing worth doing in life is hard, I have a friend that I love more than anyone in the world right now and although there's been a lot of crying and we ever almost stopped talking to each other she's doing a lot better now and it's so rewarding to see that. Plus, I know she'd do the same for me.
>>5148213
>I'm a big fan of curling up, whispering sweet nothings and gentle kisses
Why haven't we done this IRL yet milly ;-;
>>5148603
sometimes, nyquil works great for that though, or benzos, or both!
>>5145335
What if I'm so disconnected from my body and my emotions that the only way I can express my feelings is by roiding out before collapsing into a puddle of tears?
D-does that make me a "hun fetishist"?!?!?!
;-;
>tfw wasn't born Brazilian
Will hormones ever make me as cute as Kaya?
>>5149160
Brazil is a diverse multiracial country, so we all have the potential to be Brazilian cuties.
>>5144489
Hi /tlg/
I'm now officially a Trans Lesbian. this is me and my bff and we kinda sorta hooked up at a party.
ok, so she sucked my dick but that's about it. honestly i think she was toying with me. she offered to have sex but it never happened.
what i take away from this is that i atleast have the ability to like girls sexually? i may just be bi.
>>5144489
I have to work holloween. :C
>>5148640
>>5148690
>>5148869
>>5149013
I just got off work and the entire time I just spaced out. My coworkers noticed and the majority of responses where as follows:
>Yo, did you drink soup?
>Did you get to make soup yesterday?
>You should get a cup noodle during break...
>After work, go get some soup...
And all because I was talking about learning how to make cream soups last week...
This is why you should sleep before work... spacing out because you can't focus just results in a bunch of people asking you about soup. I don't even know...
>>5149572
Congratulations, I guess.
>>5149053
no, roiding out and making weird entitled rape plots does
>>5149013
>I'm totally 100% okay with owning a penis
me too, but not the one connected to me, the toys are fine
>>5149013
I already did that 5 times so far
I'm over it already, and returned the favor.
It causes too much stress and anxiety.
>>5149789
oh, well, suit yourself I guess, maybe I'm just too co-dependent for -my- own good
>>5149013
>we'll cuddle some day if we're ever in Boston at the same time I promise!
That would be nice : )
>>5145871
>We need to go deeper.
The deeper you'll go, the higher to risk of you missing will rise. There are many cellars, basements and/or trap doors. You should be careful, to whom you knock.
The days of murderers are long gone.
There's plenty of monsters, so we are taught.
So be careful, less you wish a ravishment or not.
>>5149572
That girl on the right is sexy as FUCK
>>5149572
wow you guys are HOT!! was the sex just like in anime?
>>5149013
>/usr/ports
holy shit, somebody else actually uses freebsd. unless you were referring to gentoo's ports bullshit, then ew.
I'm seeing a therapist. 1st session was today. Our sessions are only 50 minutes long, so covering ground is going to be difficult.
When should I let them know that I'm unsure about my gender/sexual orientation? I mean, there's a laundry list of issues I need to work through but should that be a priority?
Post your ideal body
pic related
>>5150851
>>5150137
>All this sameposting
what the fuck?
No offense but she isn't that good looking, at all.
>>5147002
>>5147166
>>5147325
Man what
if I found a qt lesbian who was into me, I'd be totally down, even if she had absolutely no interest in piv or anything like that
Hormones will probably shrink it in due time anyway, and eventually there's surgery
Ignore these posters, most trans girls don't really care
>>5152004
Welp you posted mine
>>5151836
50 minutes is normal, but it feels pretty short.
>>5152063
it does, double sessions seem like a good idea tbh
>>5152107
Dunno if my insurance will cover doubles.
I was told that I should try anti-depressants, which I don't want to do. I don't like things that upset the way I think. It feels fragile enough.
Theres a genderfluid club a city over that I want to visit. They have a schoolgirl wednesday night that sounds fun.
I'm just expecting it to be dead and empty. Or that I'll get there and be dead and empty.
>big head
>ugly
>wide shoulders
>tall
How do I enjoy life
It seems pointless when I'm this awful
>>5152197
>genderfluid
>>>/tumblr/
>>5148213
PIV sex is kinda a default for those that can do it together. It usually satisfies the needs of both partners if done moderately well.
>laser wore me out
It does damage that needs to be repaired.
>>>5147476
>>Cuddling is more fun.
>I'm a big fan of curling up,
I'm turning into a cuddle slut. I always loved it, but now it is an imperative versus just being really nice before.
>>5148603
Especially when my restless legs act up. I used to have other things that interrupted it, but after enough EMDR sessions I don't wakeup as much in the middle of the night.
When I want to sleep, I'll silently chant to myself "sleep now, wake up at 8:00am." until I fall asleep. It helps a lot.
>>5149013
>make config
Damn! That's what it is. I was trying to use configure and it wasn't working. It really sucks when the developer didn't provide any documentation.
>I'm totally 100% okay with owning a penis
Yeah, but slavery is illegal.
>>5149053
Get thee into therapy for psychological trauma. Find somebody who knows EMDR.
>>5151560
>>5151836
>>5152063
Yeah, it goes by way to fast. I could have used 2 hours for my last session. We did have a good EMDR session. I have been feeling better after it.
>>5152004
(pic) Really, I want my 16yo body back so I can transition from it.
>>5144489
How many of you are actually fulltime?
>>5152004
>tfw man hips will never let me be a feminine muscular
>>5153109
Yep.
Dental surgeon today didn't know if I was male of female when he came into the room.
>>5153116
>tfw to late to have the perfect body
>girl says pretty basic domme stuff over skype
>i melt the fuck down and literally pant in subby lust, only thing on my mind is wanting to get fucked
Why does this happen ;-;
>>5153210
..I'm jealous, I wish I could enjoy the idea of sex still
I miss all of those feelings
wuts habbening ?
Everything just got spooky :o
>>5153368
>I am pleased to tell you that we have received 115,447 Baht from you.
>Thank you very much. This payment fully reserves your operation date
>>5153368
Can't sleep. Watching Mexico F1 practice sessions.
>>5153401
Nice! What, where and when?
>>5153428
SRS, Suporn, next year in november
...also yes, me too.
>>5152008
>
Some people like fat chicks u noe
>>5152004
>inhouse no longer accepts debit or credit cards
What do?
>>5153697
get paypal like a normal person
first for spooky
>>5153075
>Yeah, but slavery is illegal.
Hey, it's a mutual relationship between the two of us
>Yeah, it goes by way to fast. I could have used 2 hours for my last session
Can I just have like, a live in therapist, someone who teaches me how to live again?
>>5154077
>live again
>again
That word alone makes me sure you can make it. Possibly without a therapist.
The consensus about me at this point from both shrinks who have me on watch (the psychiatrist is a 84 year old lady who's worked at the clinic since it was founded and has seemingly no life outside of it, so, yeah, pretty much live in. Not joking, they had to force her to take vacations for the first time this year because issues about compliance with work Law were raised...) is that I have yet to live in the usual, social sense of the word. Neither is quite sure that I'll ever be able to since all the talk and medication they've thrown at me hasn't made a dent in my anhedonia.
So no "again" from me. Just swinging from tedium to pain and back until my body gives up... Or maybe Schopenhauer was right and that's actually all there is to life. Except I know pleasure does exist. Or do I? Could pleasure be the second greatest lie humanity has told itself, second only to the existence of gods, and everyone's just fooling themselves. Both will only ever be equally numinous notions for me, it seems, anyway.
So if I'm to believe in pleasure, I probably should put faith in divinity. Who should I worship then? Hecate, Eris, Kali? Nevermind the logorrhea, I'm just knee deep in tedium right now.
>>5152322
no, i hate tumblr. I just think some of their ideas on gender are much more palatable.
>>5152012
Bully for you, I like my girlcock and don't want to date someone who likes me *despite* it, but *with* it.
>>5155241
hmu i love gc
>>5153401
awesome congrats !!! :0
happy halloween, everyone !!
i was going to go as a fairy princess this year, but the wings i bought weren't agreeing with me and also it's going to be 50 degrees tonight, so i ditched them bc i need to be able to wear a jacket
so i ended up being a beacon of sin and debauchery instead
anyway take care everyone! i luv u all
Happy Halloween all!
>>5155659
I'm probably just not dressing up, didn't do much work on my costume but having fun with the little bits I've done. Then again my halloween is gonna consist of trick or treating so it's not a major thing
>>5155241
>>5155388
For me it's just kind of there. It's an unfortunate fact of life to deal with. That said.... I would prefer a lover that doesn't cringe seeing it. It's probably one of the main reasons I always lean towards bi/pan girls over lesbian girls. I have enough body issues on my own, I want a lover to -like- my body y'know?
>>5153443
I've been hit on enough to know this is true.
>>5153442
>>5153401
Congratulations Imi!
>>5153368
Slept a ton, feeling much better and ready to go ToTing tonight
>>5153116
If its a major deal for you, there is such a thing as hip implants
>>5153109
I am, and have been for awhile. Honestly once I get the last things done (Name change and such), while I may not go deep stealth, I plan to just not-talk-about trans stuff outside of select people/areas.
>>5153075
>It usually satisfies the needs of both partners if done moderately well.
True enough I suppose, even pre-hrt I always found it kind of dull though. Post-hrt that makes a lot more sense
>>5152198
Find ways to work with your body, there are styles for all body types. And you can always save for FFS is the ugly is a major thing for you.
>tfw tooth hole is feeling better
>still need pain killers.
>>5153442
Cool. I need to figure out the insurance and money thing and feel confident I have the money so I can feel comfortable scheduling it.
I managed to get to sleep, but only slept fitfully.
>>5153505
(pic) while teaching.
>>5154077
>live in therapist
Me too
>someone who teaches me how to live again?
I need that too.
>>5154778
>anhedonia
>live again
>>5155817
>I always found it kind of dull though
For awhile I even lost pleasure from masturbation and sex. They're fun again. I was throughly despondent and suicidal a few years ago. I feel I can live again. There is hope. EMDR set me free. I'm wondering about combining it and ket for some of the more stuck feelings and body memories.
>>5155817
>hip implants
>bad hips in family
>my hips are marginal
>tfw many relatives on dad's side have had hips replaced.
>>5155844
No kids ever visit the farm. At the parent's, which is where I was after the tooth removal, we got 38 before the rain hit. That is a record for them. It's been slowly going up.
>push out pill from blister pack
>oww owww
>thumbnail bleeding
...now that went really well
>>5155844
>nice, handed out a bit of candy to little kids, it's still pretty civilized here.
in the city or farther away?
>>5156152
outskirts
>>5156158
I just came home from the center of our capital. So many people with friends and costumes. Makes me envious. I wish I had been invited to some party… or some friends…
>>5156179
>I wish I had been invited to some party… or some friends…
iktf bad ._.
>tfw Toto from Mercedes looks like my cousin.
I do a double-take every time they interview him.
>>5155899
Thing is, I've always been that way. To a point I considered it perfectly normal and largely still do so. For the rest, that was a brain fart. The wet kind. You take a somewhat normal strand of thought and unravel and take apart all its filaments to their absurd conclusion until all that remains is a sad little ball of lint. Now that I think of it, brain hairball would be more accurate. Other orifice, just as unpleasant. Lint in the umbilicus of Limbo...
>tfw you have to get your hair cut almost an inch because you sucked at taking care of it
it was only about 4 inches long, too.
>>5157276
>tfw starve self and never take care of hair for months cause of depression
How fucked am I?
I mean my hair is a right mess right now, and pretty coarse all the way through.
Is it salvageable?
I don't want to be a bedroom hermit forever ;_;
>>5157375
>Don't give them an hourly cash rate
maybe I should start doing that... putting an ad in the newspaper or something... "looking for friends to do all sorts of things together, will pay hourly"
.___.
>tfw ex hates me
>tfw still pine for her
how am i supposed to live
>>5157375
It has a lot to go for it. I wish I lived closer to my friends so they could kidnap me more often.
>>5157384
Start taking care of it. I brush mine as soon as I get up every morning, and after every time it has been out in the wind. If you have tangles, brush the end first, and work your way up slowly to get the tangles out. For washing, I use one of Pantene's shampoo plus conditioner line. If I have time, I dry it under a towel, but often I don't have the time. I never take a hair dryer to it.
>>5157429
Being nice, interested in similar hobbies, and there is maybe more important.
>>5159060
Just distance yourself emotionally until you stop caring. Oneitis is a bitch to cure.
>>5159089
it's been a month and a half
i have a friend visiting and from the back she looks exactly like her except with darker hair and it makes me want to die sometimes
i smelled a shirt she left over after a month and i screamed in horror
i think this unrequited love is giving me autism
>>5159076
>Start taking care of it
Yeah, start learning how to take care of it early so it's just routine when it's long.
I recommend not using a 2 in 1 since you should be conditioning Way more than shampooing.
Get a de-tangler
Use a cotton t-shirt to dry your hair instead of a towel because they can cause breakage, you don't really notice how rough you are with a towel when drying but it's bad for the hair. I suggest a t-shirt since you probably have a few cotton ones laying around but you could also buy specific cotton towels for hair.
>>5159241
My hair gets dust and dirt in it from the farm. In town or a city, there would be much less dust and dirt.
I never rub my hair with the towel. I just wrap it up in it, then wrap the towel on top of my head. The towel then slowly absorbs the water in the hair. A t-shirt would weigh less and might be more comfortable.
hi mtfg wasn't very receptive
so
who wants to be dp'd by me and my friends' gts
Well, I got to experience something new today. The depths of sadness, frustration, and anger that being stood up can bring. The night I planned for tonight, that my friends ASKED me to go to . . . is not happening.
I had to physically track them down after a 3 day disappearance with no response to texts or calls. Apparently the night we had planned was completely forgotten, and so was just not happening.
I'm pretty much a mess right now. I am not used to feeling this angry and sad at the same time. This is a very ugly feeling . . .
>>5159409
>DP
groce
>>5159419
*hugs*
>>5159419
That sounds irritating Cali, I'm sorry that happened to you. Deep breaths and have a good cry, sometimes weird things happen but if its a first I wouldn't be too upset.
>>5159409
No thank you
>>5159060
This >>5159089 is probably a good idea. Especially if she hates you. It'll hurt but just walk away and give yourself time to heal
>>5157384
Yes, I'd suggest Biotin supplements or at least a strengthening conditioner. If you use shampoo regularly, consider cutting back, and fortifying oils are a good call. Also when able go to a salonist to see how much of the ends are dead and need to be trimmed.
>>5157276
I had/have 6 inches of dead hair, but I'm losing over time. Took off about 2 inches before summer and I'll lose another 2 inches this month. Most Salonists can give great advice and help you find a solution that works with you.
>>5159591
>>5159619
Thanks. I've been sitting around and talking to friends for a while, and it is slowly helping me level out a bit.
This is not the first time I got ditched by them, but it has never been this bad. We planned this night for 3 weeks, and I was asked to go by them!
It is fine though. I've made alternate plans. My night won't be ruined, but I am still very emotionally charged. It was so frustrating . . .
>high school crush is now a lesbian
>>5160584
Oh-my...
>>5160584
uh oh
>>5161052
Sorry, I just don't do casual sex. My sex life would be a lot less boring if I did, that's for sure.
>>5159924
Well thats good, I hope you have a wonderful night then Cali!
when did you realize that most trans women were lesbian?
>>5159409
mite b fun
>eating sunflower seeds
>find out they have 900 mg potassium a cup
fuck this gay earth
>>5161513
>love avocadoes
>find out avocados are super high in K
fml
>>5161579
I've been eating like two bananas a day
is that bad
I also really like avocados
>>5161582
A banana a day isn't that bad, but you should just be careful and keep the signs of hyperkalemia in mind(look 'em up)
>>5161582
Yeah, this >>5161607
I have no clue how much is to much, and it can easily be different from person to person.
There is something in hydrocordone I don't clear properly. It keep affecting men for 36+ hours after the last one was taken.
>>5161579
was me without trip.
It's one of those days. I napped a bit and had more asylum memories come back. more fodder for EMDR sessions.
>tfw this isn't just an AGP fetish
>tfw I'm not just a drag queen
>tfw I'm not just a femme boy
>tfw I'm actually trans
>tfw I actually want to be a woman
Is it normal to feel like the bottom just dropped out of your life?
Goddamn
>>5161607
>you should just be careful
don't go all paranoid though, you aren't some 60 year old hon. Just talk to your doc
>>5161582
Are you getting your potassium checked with your bloodwork?
If your levels are fine don't worry about it, but if you're selfmeding well you might to check it or worry.
>>5161707
I think I finally came to the same conclusion two days ago. It's scary and I still feel like I must be making it up or deluded.
>>5161707
It'll pass as you learn your new footings. I've heard realization may upset the whole basis of one's psyche. It is a major change. Sounds like a good time to talk with your therapist.
>>5162145
Thanks, that's actually the nicest post I've ever gotten on 4chan
>>5162117
lmao r u me
I doubt myself so frequently with everything so I guess it's no surprise that I did it with my gender.
Ah well, good luck to us all.
>tfw looking through your past and finding tons of "signs"
>tfw you realize you literally never even gave a fuck about being muscular or hairy, and are now actively terrified of these things.
>>5161285
be my gf and it'll no longer be casual
>>5161471
Most trans women I've talked to where bisexual to be honest.
>>5161513
>>5161522
Just don't overindulge and you should be fine
>>5161707
>>5161707
Yes, I've never understood people thinking being trans. It's a hard, painful, stressful life with a goal that's ultimately finally feeling at home in your own body. But heavens that final goal is so worth it, I hope you find it Anon
>>5162373
While tempting, I don't do LDR's and I sincerely doubt you're local. Thank you kindly for the interest.
>>5162765
>While tempting, I don't do LDR's and I sincerely doubt you're local. Thank you kindly for the interest.
There's a much less wordy way to put this:
Ew, 4chan.
>>5162773
>>5162781
Actually, I met an ex off 4chan. We were fairly happy but it was an ldr thing as well as a fwb situation. After about two years she wanted something more serious but neither one of us wanted to move, and I won't get serious over a ldr. We've been friends for.... Goodness I wanna say about 7 years now? And she's posted in tlg a couple times if I remember right.
>>5162781
Really? I heard they where working on better domestic travel trains but haven't heard much else.
>finally decide to buy first pair of womens' jeans
>find one you like, that will fit, and is cheap
>price goes up $10 while looking at other stuff
>can't buy them now out of spite
>>5162807
>7 years
old transbians baka
>trains
hhhhhhhhhaha
>>5162765
I'm in AZ... i-is that close enough?
>>5162836
>trains
>hhhhhhhhhaha
I rather like the thought of a daylong train ride gazing upon the scenery. It seems sweet and romantic.
And yes, a bit old, such is life. We all age, I'd rather do so gracefully then try to deny it.
>>5162835
I... do not blame you in the slightest. That sounds extremely frustrating. I'm sorry anon.
>>5162855
I'm not sure, Perhaps.
>>5162857
i like trains but theyre too expensive
i like the singapore-kuala lumpur sleeper
>>5162857
>Perhaps.
I'm in Phoenix ;3
Goodnight everyone, I'm unfortunately quite tired.
>>5162897
Ah, sorry I'm not overly keen on giving out my exact location on 4chan. Perhaps one day I'll tell you if that would work out.
>>5162864
That's why I like the idea of them modernizing trains, I know there are plans for a massive railroad from WA down to CA all the way to FL and up to NY, but I'm not sure if it will ever come to fruition.
>>5162921
good night, it's 12 already? UGH
maybe one day, even as friends then ;3
>tfw ill never get her back
>tfw shes living the life and I was abandoned and left in the dirt
>tfw hollow shitty shell of my former self
How do I stay determined to fight for my happiness /tlg/ ;_;
This is so hard
>>5162857
>And yes, a bit old, such is life. We all age, I'd rather do so gracefully then try to deny it.
it's just hard aging without getting much out of life... so much time wasted... things I can never forget.
>>5162781
>domestic LDRs are feasible
>between $200 and $400 to visit internet cuddlebuddy
kermitthefrogface.png
>>5164237
>>not making enough money to budget $400 a month for visits
NEET or wageslave?
>>5164398
NEET
>>5164489
hey me too!
what are the odds... amirite? ;~;
>>5164510
i guess we're both just losers
>>5164599
m-maybe you are but what am I?!
oh wait, a loser yeah...
>>5164237
>she can't even route her flights for minimum expense
u deserve to be alone haha loser
seriously though what's the route
>>5164668
boston to cincinatti, the lowest i can get it down to on gflights is $191
>>5164398
I can think of a lot of things worth 400 a month.
A LDR with a stranger is not one of them.
>>5164749
https://www.delta.com/cart/activity/tripsummary.action?cacheKeySuffix=94980b62-01e1-4ce1-89df-4a72b7adae39&cabin=Coach&paxCount=1&price=0&tripType=oneWay&fareBasis=&vendorRedirectFlag=true&itinSegment[0]=0:V:BOS:CVG:DL:62:NOV:16:2015:0&itinSegment[1]=0:V:CVG:PHL:DL:4119:NOV:16:2015:0&numOfSegments=2
get o w n e d
>>5161502
S A N F R A N C I S C O
>>5163040
>>5162857
Further thinking and talking with a friend, we determined most, of the lesbians and bisexuals we know aged naturally. It was around half the het women that fought it. This is among those that could easily afford top quality face lifts.
The few les and bi gals that did all were still making their income from their beauty, i.e. acting and modeling.
>>5164237
unless you live near an expensive airfare city like Des Moines. From here it's often cheaper to go to Kansas City.
>>5164398
5 years ago that would have been easy for me. Now, no.
>>5164860
I can think of many things worth vastly more than $400 a month. Love is one of them.
Well, I am doing alot better today. I had a girl friend come over and have a movie night with me, and she just cuddled with me until I stopped crying and fell asleep.
Yesterday wasn't fun, but I feel like I must've needed it on some level. I didn't even know what I was still crying about at the end, but the tears wouldn't stop. I love my friends so much though, they were all there for me.
>>5165004
Love is free, as long as you don't expect any back.
>>5165051
It may be free, but when reciprocated the value returned is immense.
>>5164599
y u don't get job?
>>5165207
>implying that changes anything
._.
>>5162927
Sounds good to me
>>5163040
Well to be honest, I'd absolutely be okay with plastic surgery. I just meant aging gracefully as in not pretending I'm ten years younger or acting like a teenager when I have no desire to.
>>5163280
Sometimes you need to cry and purge it out anon. Cry for what you've lost and realize that you might find it, or likely better, in the future if you continue to look for it.
>>5163372
No, absolutely. It really hurts especially when I think of all the times I could have enjoyed myself had I been true to myself much earlier. But.... nothing's going to change that. I try to focus on what I -can do-, because that's what I'm fighting so hard for.
>>5164398
NEET / Disabled myself. I don't have much spending money but it works out for me.
>>5165004
It's likely because for straight girls, the goal shoved on them is to 'marry a rich guy'. Which isn't as big a deal (especially in the les community)
>>5165030
Sounds like an awesome time, and a great friend!
>>5165328
>goal shoved on them
be a pretty arm ornament.
if you are not pretty you are not worth anything.
Once you start questioning social norms, the more likely you will question and ditch multiple ones of them. Lesbian, and bisexuals have already broken their first, and it's a dozy.
>>5165328
>I just meant aging gracefully as in not pretending I'm ten years younger or acting like a teenager
I have to admit that's kinda what I'm doing and I wouldn't really want to do it differently, I still want to experience that kind of life.
only problem is that I'm not really in a situation to like, actually do it though.
I am seriously lacking in life experience to actually act my age.
>>5164860
you've never been in love clearly
>>5164883
wow you sure showed me
oh wait, it's $350 one way, you fucking mongoloid
>tfw they widened my jaw when young.
>>5165506
I was looking at costs to NYC. It's about $300 for 1 stop, and $500 for non stop round trips.
K keeps reminding me it only costs a couple thousand to send the small jet to pick me up, but it is very close to it's max range. On the other hand it can land and refuel at airports only 30 or 45 minutes away. Not 1.5 hours away. I wish I could get away from the boat anchor more often...
>>5145349
>date another trans lesbian?
Depends on how you define 'lesbian'. I only date other trans women (about 90%). I don't find cis women unattractive, but I'm not really into vaginas. I wouldn't date a trans woman who already had a vagina or really desired one. I wouldn't necessarily leave someone over it either, but I can't lie that I would be less attracted to a partner who got the op while we were dating.
I feel like I've always been this way though. If I'd opted to stay a guy I would've probably been a flaming faggot who dated other flamers.
>>5166776
you sound like a chaser tbhon
>>5166843
Typical heterosexual male agp response. I mean, would you call a cis lesbian a chaser for only seeking real vaginas? Or a hetero man who also only fucks real vaginas? It's ok to have preferences. Don't let that bother you.
I don't want to sleep with someone who has or intends to obtain an inverted cocksock. Everything about that sounds really gross.
I also don't expect anyone else to fuck me who isn't ok with me or my attractions. Which is the biggest difference between a 'chaser' like me and cotton ceiling pushing agp fetishists.
>sorting large tin of old change
>Less than 1" down in 10" tall tin.
>tfw find bicentennial quarter.
Sacajawea Dollar.
Few NH state toll tokens.
Lots of Canadian coins. I was traveling to Canada a lot for work.
Many old hair ties.
About a $75 in quarters, dimes, and nickels in the top inch. Haven't bothered to count the pennies.
I found a wheat penny from I think 1929. I need better magnification to read the date.
>>5167695
1928 wheat penny.
>>5167856
lo Yeah
>tfw first quarter I looked at the date was 1965, the year I was born.
>>5167796
I was watching a recording of the Mexico F1 Grand Prix, but now that is done.
I've been hoping others show up.
Yeah, I'm bored. I checked the pennies for obvious old ones.
4 wheat pennies in the top inch
1928, 1929?, 1944, and 1958?
all in poor shape.
Back when I used cash, I just dropped the coins into my pocket. At the end of the day I emptied my pockets into a bowl, coins, keys, wallet, etc.. I'd only put a few quarters back in my pocket for parking meters. Every so often I'd dump the bowl into this tin that is about a foot square.
I packed up the coins and went to bed. I'm segregating them and putting them in jars. I still have a huge amount to go through, but I think the rest has a higher percentage of pennies.
>>5165506
>she clicked on the post three hours later
losers are slow
idk if that's news
Hum, I wonder what "refreshingly different" is code for?
I had a dream about kissing a girl but I don't wanna be a transbian because everyone hates transbians.
>>5169246
cool i guess a new obnoxious trip showed up to take lily's place
time to filter I guess
>>5169628
>Trip hating on other trip
You think you're special or something? We hate you just as much. Fucking attention whore.
>>5169603
It's just a couple of people on this board that post shit like that, you can easily tell by the writing style. Most people irl will have enough problems on their own to worry about shit like that.
>>5169628
>getting filtered by a hon
my greatest accomplishment
>>5169603
It's only a small vocal few here on 4chan and a few TERFs in irl. Most don't care.
>>5166776
What genitals my partner has doesn't mean much to me. I've been deeply in love with both males and females.
I'm sure I'd still be able to love a person if they had mixed genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics.
On the other hand, I'm sure at this point I'd be much happier with a vagina rather than the dick I have. As I get further and further along in transition, I'm more often having times when it feels like it's there. It's frustrating because as soon as I pay attention to the feels I feel the dick there. I also still get mildly depressed if I thrust.
>>5169628
emily shitposts worse than lily and miku combined desu
>>5169837
are you kidding? everyone cares about transbians. they're disgusting. they're all AGP fetishists and don't deserve any respect.
that's why you always end up seeing transbians with other transbians. they rub their dicks together when they play dressup. it's fucking disgusting.
I'm just hanging around, and enjoying a few days off I've gotten. Putting some space between me and my friend for now. I'm not furious or anything, but I am very disappointed and as far as I am concerned they need to make this up to me if they want things to be the way they were before after blowing me off for 3 days and then ruining plans we made for the last 3 weeks.
Otherwise, I am just exercising and relaxing today.
I did not take "OW! FUCK! BOOBS!" into account when planning my move :/
>>5169628
>>5169733
>filtered by a hon
>greatest accomplishment
LOL you need serious help.
>>5165377
True enough, as I learned more and more about myself I stopped caring as much about others views.
... though the idea of being eye candy for someone is admittedly appealing.
>>5165455
Well it'll come in time, just be yourself and work on being happy in my mind. At least that's how I view life.
>>5169603
Unfortunately denying your sexual orientation doesn't work out so well. And you could always be bi.
>>5169646
As another trip...
>Fucking attention whore.
I realize to many I am, perhaps in some ways I am. Sorry Anon, just who I am I suppose.
>>5170415
Personally, I think like any group painting with a broad brush never works. I generally look for personal opinions, not 'how everyone feels'. That said I find most people who dislike me because of the T thing do it more because I'm trans then because I'm into women. Though... yea there's a fair bit of confusion it seems on why would I transition to being a woman so I could date women. Thankfully most people 'get it' pretty quickly when explained.
>>5170483
Sounds like a nice day
>>5170666
It becomes pretty important to consider, yes.
