/tlg/ meets /co/
anyone else here browse /co/ regularly?
>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizi http://www.nationalworkwear.com/siz
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/
>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez
>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
previous thread:
>>5182518
>previous thread:
>>5144489
>>5182518
Puffy
Nipples
>>5182518
/co/ is the board I've been browsing the longest and the one I visit most often.
For better and worse.
I don't come to this board often, but I just wanted to drop by and say anyone early in transition should just make a pinterest account to learn about makeup/fashion/bodycare.
To be honest, when I wanted to learn about that stuff I just asked some of my friends and they walked me through it easily. Just ask a girl you trust for some help, that is how I got most of my learning done so far.
>>5182518
>>5182669
I spent my time on /d/ primarily, never been big into /co/. Sorry.
>>5182678
>>5182690
Not everyone is lucky enough but there are plenty of awesome girls out there that will help. Pinterest is a good idea, as is youtube.
All women are whores, why would you want to be a whore? Why would you want to be with a whore?
How long has everyone here been full time? 5 months here, pass completely and passed after very little hrt. Have qt cis gf and friends who don't hate me, which is a good feeling.
>tfw have always been short and girly
>tfw trapped since 13 years old
>tfw not even starting transition at 18 and passing
>tfw can cuddle with my girlfriend
>tfw parents are fine with it
life's good.
My grandmother is going to stay at my house for like 2 months and she doesn't know I'm trans and I'm probably gonna have to try to be stealth but she might figure it out anyway and I don't like this ;____;
pic related
>>5184540
>never used two of em
Ffs Larry you don't need to tell us you're agp
>>5184548
>agp = being turned on by seeing oneself as woman/ doing things society deems "womanly"
>not using makeup and skincare is now womanly
cool story bro
>>5184556
It means you put no effort into your transition
You just wear your panties and Jack off
>>5184571
>jacking off
>without a penis
u w0t m8
but damn you must be one bored and desperate individual if you post the second I post here for the first time in days
craving my attention much ?
>>5184540
How many therapy session did it take you to get your referral letter for a (clinical) psychologist? How long overall did it take you to get mones, including all the uro/gyno checkups and whatnot?
Is it possible to start with injections right away? Did it take a lot of convincing to get them instead of the gel, which I think is the standard E-med in Austria?
>>5184580
>without a penis
>implying
>>5184606
>for a (clinical) psychologist?
huh ? not sure what you're asking buuut
I went to a therapist for 52 hrs, psychologist and a clinical psychologist for evaluation
got my clean bill of mental health, recommendation for srs and hrt and then went to my endo with them and sent sophie (suporns contact) a mail to set a date after a while on mones
>How long overall did it take you to get mones, including all the uro/gyno checkups and whatnot?
did those while doing therapy so a total of about 6 months
>Is it possible to start with injections right away?
idk they aren't available in austria unless imported (expensive as fuck)
>Did it take a lot of convincing to get them instead of the gel, which I think is the standard E-med in Austria?
I flat out told my endo I don't want gel cause it takes ages for stuff to be absorbed by my skin (not really true but a good "no thanks" argument) and that I'd prefer pills
>>5184628
>Expensive as fuck injection
How much are we talking about? I don't like pills or gel so that would leave me with fucking patches that come with their own set of problems.
>>5184652
iirc 64€ for not even a month worth from chez
or 124€ from sweden
>>5184580
I ALWAYS crave your attention, Lilly <3
>>5184661
Oh, that's easily affordable, my allergy meds cost me more than that.
Thanks for the info.
>>5184680
yw it's a bit of research for the names (pharmacy has to order them specifically) but sometimes if you ask nicely they'll look them up themselves
>>5184687
Thanks, I'll look into that. It's easier to get specific meds with a Privatrezept if the pharmacy has already ordered it once I find. It's especially a pain in the ass if the substance is in the codex but there's no distributor.
If it's not too much of a hassle and doesn't make you uncomfortable would you mind sending some kind of contact data at this burner e-mail: "[email protected]" in case I have more questions - Austria specific - regarding this subject?
>>5184606
>which I think is the standard E-med in Austria?
I know a few who use gel, but I think pills are equally standard here.
also hi :3
>>5184791
Sup.
I don't like having to wait for the gel to get absorbed as I already have the spend at least 20 minutes taking meds and various supplements each morning to function plus I don't like walking around top/bottomless at all. I also don't like the hormone level spikes from pills.
Standard or not, neither of these are an option to me and I'll gladly pay +200€/month for alternatives.
That being said I have no fucking idea when I will actually start hrt.
I've just had my 6th therapy session yesterday but there really isn't a lot of things to discuss left. I reckon she will give me a recommendation or something once I reach #10 because of WGKK Teilrückzahlung documents and whatnot.
Hi I'm from /co/ and what is this.
>>5184879
Well, what does it look like to you, smartass?
>>5184879
read the faq in the op
>>5184896
i do, Bat girl is my favorite.
>>5184879
idk lol
>>5184896
I don't know anybody that would share that hobby irl to talk about it and I have too many other hobbies/work so it's not worth picking it up other than having read TKJ and Watchmen.
>>5184904
Her new series? Not really my thing, but I guess it's good if you're the target audience.
>>5184776
sorry didn't send it on time write me a mail ([email protected]) pls
All women are whores, why do you all want to be whores?!
>>5185709
spamming is against the rules, anon
>>5185761
ANSWER ME YOU WHORE.
Tfw gay man voice for life
https://clyp.it/n4wq0i0j
I just got back from helping my friend's mom go grocery shopping with the two kids she watches. The little girl Aria is so adorable. She is like 3 and basically spent the whole time I was pushing her making up cute little songs about almost everything, including me and singing them to me. It really made me want to have a little kid of my own even more strongly. I really want to be a mom so badly.
A song for us MtFs.
semi NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jzVJjk32E
I used to have a copy of this album, but somebody stole it.
Kinky ABCs
Throughly NSFWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXsWNOfU1zQ
It's been awhile since I'd heard this little gem of a song from years ago. Contrary to belief by many it isn't a LoA song.
This is for all of us who need to work on self acceptance. ;)
NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwiVXWZ8QL8
>>5186083
Yeah, those baby feels can be quite strong.
>>5185709
Everybody loves whores. They make money by making people happy. I probably wouldn't want to literally be a prostitute since that does make you rather vulnerable, but I wouldn't rule out sex work entirely.
>>5186661
I could see going back to being a mistress, but I think I'm a bit past my prime for that.
I think anime made me trans.
>>5187364
this made me think. are you a boy or girl?
>>5187758
I'm currently transitioning to a girl (I'm MtF). Why?
>>5187758
I remember I've always wished Jusenkyo existed. Ranma 1/2 is still probably my favorite anime.
>>5187364
I don't think such things can make us trans. It CAN make us question our gender though.
>>5186083
Well that was sweet of you. Children when young are adorable but such a handful.
>>5185709
Because I can't help who I fall in love with, obviously.
>>5184879
>>5184896
I don't read comics so much as have favorite characters. I'm a big fan of Quinn/Ivy and probably squee'd far too much to find out they became canon in new 52 though. Last comic I probably read seriously was Deadpool and Transmetropolitan.
>>5183950
That awesome, congratulations!
>>5183776
3 Years now. No luck in dating but I've honestly been avoiding it for the most part, I'm trying to be more outgoing as of late which is hard for me.
>>5187767
maybe because you think that if you look like a girl you can show you good side, and be more acepted by the people
sorry for my english
>>5187831
Perhaps!
>>5187364
Yeah. Or probably more realistically, being trans made me like anime.
Even setting aside the really appealing stuff like Ranma, there's a lot in anime for someone who "wants to be a girl." There's a lot of anime from shoujo to moe which shows a female perspective in a way which a lot of mediums don't, and that can be very exciting to someone who is a girl "deep down" but hasn't been able to experience life from that perspective.
>>5187863
Yeah, and a lot anime portrays girls as nearly perfect too, so that might've had something to do with it as well.
>>5186661
Everyone hates whores, they're a waste and contribute nothing and are only good for their bodies.
>>5187883
That bra looks complicated and uncomfortable.
>>5187792
>I'm trying to be more outgoing as of late which is hard for me.
That's been one of my biggest issues with dating. Only reason I'm dating the gals from NYC is they went after me despite my hiding at home. After my latest EMDR session, I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I still have a long ways to go, but I think I'm generally running a lot less nervous than I was.
>>5188107
Everyone hates trolls, they're a waste and contribute nothing and are only good for their body parts.
>>5188182
Who said fashion is comfortable? It is all about looks, not comfort.
>>5188340
> It is all about looks, not comfort.
True enough. When I reach my goal body I'll have to try to find one like it and try it out.
>>5188340
Looking good doesn't mean it has to be uncomfortable. A good piece of fashion is one that will get everyone to focus on while you can forget you're even wearing it. Fascinators are a very good example of that...
I tend to consider there's no such thing as overdressing. Been wearing some heavily embroidered anarkali dress for the past couple days, and everyone's just telling me how gorgeous I am even though my hair is summarily combed and I'm wearing no makeup besides a thin black liner and some rimmel. Thing is, under that overly formal dress, I'm wearing very basic and comfortable things, cotton T-shirt and leggings. The dress is just a veneer. But it's enough to make people feel like I'm beautiful, because they won't look beyond it.
Of course, the less you layer, the more uncomfortable looking good gets unless you have a beautiful body. And let's face it, a perfect body is not something most trans women can boast about.
>tfw I let her wind me up like a top and play hard with me.
I've always preferred this song sung by her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTfHhNg1iII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uFg7ns_XmU
Cover of The Replacements song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNex-FGwUzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04HSg0YZi9E
>>5188555
>I tend to consider there's no such thing as overdressing
LOL I know some friends you would like. For awhile they had a joke club called Overdressers Anonymous. They are mostly doing steam punk now, which could be considered a form of overdressing. ;)
After listening to the stuff above, I've been listening to over the top love songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9BbUqHrWFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmXja6ElME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XolL_1dN0
>Be transgirl, pre-op
>meet amazingly cool, gorgeous tomboyish cis lesbian
>She's never been with a guy, is strict cis girls only
>I somehow fall for her and magically she falls for me
>we have piv sex continuously for hours, its my first time penetrating.
>this hot masculine girl turns to mush, her eyes wide open with a constant smile, like a loving puppy
>tells me it was the best sex she ever had
>feels like I took her masculinity away, the thing I was attracted too
>she behaves more like a feminine girl round me now
>I'm loosing the feelings I had for her
What have I done?
>>5188742
It could be a phase or she could think she's doing you a favor.
Just straight up tell her how you feel.
>>5188742
Found her soft side.
be submissive to her.
>>5188742
I honestly agree with >>5188755 Just sit her down and tell her. The big thing is you need to word things right. Ie, from my perspective...
"You're acting a lot more femme" lately would be wrong but "Why don't you do <masculine behavior> anymore? I really liked that."
Anon this is a relationship and you're still fleshing things out. Let her know what you like, what you didn't like. You shouldn't force her to be who she's not but you -should- let her know what you love about her and what actions made you happy.
That's my opinion anyway.
>>5188340
Yup looking back I realized most of my ex's found me, which is surprising but eh. It works. That said I certainly never felt 'pursued' looking back, and I can't help but wonder why
I'm bi and just got in a relationship with a girl, the first relationship with a girl in 6 years and the first since transition. i feel like less of a woman when i'm with her despite her making me happy. i get major dysphoria flareups. how do i get over this?
>>5192166
Work on your confidence. See a therapist about it if you have to. Comparing yourself to your gf like that is horrible for the relationship's future.
>>5193041
i don't compare myself to her really, but it's very mental/social dysphoria inducing, she is more femme than me so subconsciously i feel like i'm taking on a more masculine role. i end up hating myself for it but there doesn't seem much i can do except be more secure in my identity.
>>5192166
>>5193041
>>5193248
Definitely talk to a therapist, and see if you can work on your issues. It sounds like a horrible state for your relationship but hopefully you can get passed it in time. I don't know how long you've been transitioning though, if you're early in transition it might be especially or the major reason its so painful for you.
96.0F body temp when I woke up this morning...
96.2F yesterday
96.4F the day before yesterday
I don't like this trend.
>>5193248
>but there doesn't seem much i can do except be more secure in my identity.
yep. Seeing a therapist may help with that. They may have some mental exercises that will help.
Should I be seeing/feeling some effects after 5 months of HRT? Literally only thing so far is puffier stiff nips.
Also is it even possible to find a GF if you're self-medding asocial neet that plays video games in a remote country? It sure feels like it isnt.
>>5182518
Starting HRT fairly young (19 yo), but I'm 6'. Will my height make me unable to pass? Is it possible I could lose any height??
Hold me /tlg/ I'm so sad right now.
A year ago, I machined a polymer AR15 lower.
First gun I ever built and first AR I ever shot.
It served me through only a measly 1k shots but it was still my first AR.
I'm so sad she's dead...
>>5194676
You wont lose any height but you can downplay it with clothing. I'm taller than you but I got no tips for passing of my own because I dont.
>>5194676
learn to play volleyball or basketball and then you'll meet 6' tall girls and won't seem weird when you hang out with them
hey who wants a qt grillfriend?
>>5194834
how do you get fem hand bone structure?
>>5194848
uhh...are you kidding or bullying?
>>5194853
if i was bullying i'd say something about your piercing, your hands are cute tho i wish i had proportionate fingers like that
>>5194858
they're actually really long. like candlesticks. I used to play the violin a lot and my teacher said they were perfect for the violin
>>5194634
Drug efficacy? Are they any good?
>>5194676
Height usually helps some. Some MtFs do loose some height, I've heard reports of as much as 3", but 1" or less is much more typical. It's a combination of thinning vertebra disks, and rolling of the hips. I'm only 3/4" shorter.
>>5194690
If you liked how it worked, machine it out of aluminum.
Be honest, how many of you here have had a thing for another transgirl on lgbt?
>>5183516
>Why would you want to be with a whore?
Why wouldn't you?
>>5183776
>How long has everyone here been full time?
Eh...well I just hit the magical 4-years-into-transition mark about a week ago but I went full hikki for a while too, so... 3 years is probably a good guess.
>>5184879
The innernet.
>>5186661
>I wouldn't rule out sex work entirely
And I wouldn't rule it out if sex work wouldn't rule out working in any other field ever again, but 'ya know.
>>5187863
I never got why people liked Ranma so much honestly.
>>5188742
>What have I done?
This >>5188819, but just talk to her.
>>5192166
>i feel like less of a woman when i'm with her despite her making me happy.
>how do i get over this?
In addition to - or primarily, really - the mandatory "stop comparing yourself to her," you need to be more comfortable with yourself, whatever that means to you.
And yes, obviously, see a therapist.
>>5194634
>Also is it even possible to find a GF if you're self-medding asocial neet that plays video games in a remote country? It sure feels like it isnt.
Mhm. I'd send you one, but shipping and handling is kind of expensive these days.
But I have a handful of qts that things might get serious with and I live in East Bumblefuck, so. It happens. Just gotta keep trying anon.
>>5194676
>Will my height make me unable to pass?
Nope. Being tall makes you stand out. If after that you don't pass, then yeah, you don't pass. But height alone isn't the deciding factor for that.
>Is it possible I could lose any height??
Maybe. There's less connective stuff between bones on HRT, so some of that empty space going away could help.
But I'm still 5'7"-ish even though I've gone down 3 shoe sizes, so your mileage may vary.
>>5194834
Very qt.
>>5196122
Psh, obviously. Four in particular though.
>>5196122
I've had, I still have a thing, for a few girls from here, but probably not the kind of thing you're expecting. More of a caring, maternal feeling thing towards girls that are nearly young enough to be my daughters. I have to admit it feels good to see them making progress towards a good life, something that was impossible for me when I was their age. Guess it's also a proxy for the daughter I'll never bear.
On the other hand, I seem to be a good target to have a crush on, for some reason that completely eludes me. I'm old, cranky and not exactly pretty.
>>5196122
i met my girlfriend/life partner/soulmate through /lgbt/
>>5196109
I would have started with aluminum if I had a machine that was able to machine aluminum.
Now, however, I have those resources so I'm going to do just that.
>>5196702
First time trying out thigh highs, I usually go for a really generic jeans cami and xardi look but I wanted to mix it up a little since Christmas is coming soon (gotta confess, I'm excited).
Thoughts? It's not a great pic but hopefully it's okay? V-v
>>5197955
there's an edit of us of that out there fyi
>>5194834
what up coolfreaks
>>5194634
Everyone grows differently but generally I suggest not fretting about hrt until you hit the 1 year mark
>>5194676
You might lose an inch or two, and while the height may make you stand out genetics and presentation matter more.
>>5194690
I'm so sorry for your loss /k/ordelia
>>5194834
I'd like to think I'll find one oneday.
>>5196122
I met an ex on /d/ like 7 years ago who was trans, and we've been friends since then (the ex thing came about from us wanting to explore kinks). Generally no, but then I don't do ldr's anymore. I've been burnt enough. I have made good friends on lgbt tho
>>5196122
Both a few online here, and a couple offline.
This for a few more >>5196275
>More of a caring, maternal feeling thing towards girls that are nearly young enough to be my daughters.
I've even felt some for a couple FtMs online and a FtM/questioning off line.
>>5183776
>How long has everyone here been full time?
about 8 months maybe. I didn't really keep track of when I stopped wearing mens clothing.
>>5197262
I personally want a milling machine that will do up to 32"x12"x9" steel objects. I want to make a drive train system for a 4x4 4 motor electric car. I have the thing mostly designed. I need the milling machine to make the hubs and transmission cases. I also want to make some parts for some clocks. There is where I'll need to mill some steel. The car only requires aluminum and magnesium alloys.
>>5198222
I have no clue what I'll wear for the holidays. I gained to much from last year, but this past 2 weeks I've lost over 5 non water weight pounds. I seam to be no longer eating out of nervousness.
Today is Hedy Lamarr's 101st b-day. She is one of the two responsible for spread spectrum and frequency hopping technologies. They are used in your WIFI, Bluetooth, and CDMA cell phones as well as other areas.
I love this quote from her:
>"I am not ashamed to say that no man I ever met was my father's equal, and I never loved any other man as much."
6 short marriages. Hum...
Another interesting bit:
>“My face has been my misfortune,” Lamarr once observed, describing it as “a mask I cannot remove. I must live with it. I curse it.”
Reading up on her was a nice distraction.
180 days till I'm rid of the ugly growths between my legs. That will be a long wait. Already making packing lists and drafting custom luggage, though...
>>5199839
>32"x12"x9"
My maker space was estatic to get a donated Matsuura Tiger with a 20"x14"x19" envelope; good luck with that.
>>5201456
Large milling machines cost a lot, even used. I've thought of making a specialty mill to do the clock parts. It really needs to be able to mill large circular objects, but the milling zone can be a much smaller envelope as long as I can rotate the part through it. I was thinking of making a gantry mill using meter long rails with a fixed table where I could mount a rotating table on. Later I could add a heavy duty stage under the gantry.
>>5200442
77 for me. Where you going?
>>5201783
I have a piece of shit CNC Mill...
It needs so much fixing up and improving before it actually cut at any significant feed and it can't even cut plastic. The bit just slips.
Anyone know where I can get a good spindle for cheap? I don't care what kind of collets are needed as long as that shit can output enough torque to cut steels.
>>5203619
It may need a new belt between the motor and spindle, or for the belt to be tightened. That assumes the belt is slipping. If it is the bit in the collet slipping, then try buying new collets of the right type for your spindle. They do wear out. the aluminum ones can also get stretched.
Only ferrous metal spindles I know of are $1k+, but they are also bigger ones.
There is a small high speed one for a lot less, but it won't do ferrous metals.
http://www.wolfgangengineering.com/ww-650-spindle.html
It is meant for small mills.
>>5203772
me, sans trip.
Really thinking about it, I have need for both small and big mills. I want to make some unique clocks. I have an idea for a prototype that I can work on the software for the motor control. Then I can go-fun-me for the money to make the bigger ones.
>>5203772
You're assuming I have a belt driven spindle, which I don't. My thing was a kit that I got before I actually knew what I was doing.
My CNC Mill is more like a shitty chinese spinny thing attached to a drive train also made out of shitty chinese spinny things.
The drive train is powered by cheap ass stepper motors, the drive bars are just threaded rods, the carriages are attached to the threaded rods by plastic wingnuts as anti-backlash, and two rods act as stabilizers for each carriage. It's an absolute abomination.
The bit slips because the thing is on a chuck system, not a collet or set screw system. And the chuck can't get tight enough to hold shit.
Worst part, I can only use up to 1/8 bits because of this shit.
I was thinking of using a router as a stop-gap before getting an actual CNC spindle, but I'll have to design a mounting system. I have access to machines that are actual CNC milling centers, but I need to get approval for all the shit I want to mill so that doesn't work for me when I want to build guns.
The chassis is shit as well. Aluminum square tubes held together with bolts and a cross bar. I over tightened one screw and bent the fucking thing.
I'm considering just redesigning the whole thing and building from scratch.
Pic fucking related...
>>5203924
Yeah, that's scary. Looks like your spindle thingy is just a Dremel knockoff. Could it be replaced with a real dremel. Not that it would provide any accuracy. Dremels are notoriously bad. At least the bit would spin and work.
Use your CNC access to make the parts you need to make a totally new mill. What you have looks only good for wood and plastic. It may be able to be used for PCB drilling. There are ground rails that you can buy to mount on your own frame. The carriage then runs along them and the consistency will be very high.
Products like this, and other ones from this company can be used as the motion surface for a table or gantry mounted carriages.
http://www.thomsonlinear.com/website/com/eng/products/linear_guides/shafting/linearrace_shaft_rail_assemblies.php
I was looking at having some plate steel or aluminum water cut, then threaded. When i received the pieces, I'd bolt them together into a gantry, table, cross carriage, and spindle carriage. The table would have a set of the rails on the bottom of it, and the pillow blocks would be on the gantry base. The gantry would have a vertical face with two of the rails mounted to it. The pillow blocks would be mounted on the cross carriage. The other side of the cross carriage would have two rails vertically, and the spinal carriage would move up and down in it. Between each pair of rails would be the screw drive shafts. It would be like yours, but instead made from heavy plate steel.
Using the pre made rails allows me to not need to grind and harden the table motion rails.
Servo motors are better than steppers, but they cost 5 times as much. Steppers can also have feedback added to them for about 2X cost, but you may need to make the controller yourself. I think the formerly NIST written CNC software will close the control loop with stepper motors out of the box.
>>5204429
The biggest limitation for me is money.
Since I'm still a student and have a shit job that gives no hours, I have a lot of expenses and little income.
Once I start bringing in more money, I'm totes gonna start this project back up. For now, I think I'll have to make due with most of the system I have now. Only reasonable upgrade I can make is the spindle and, possibly, the z-axis height.
Life is hard when most income goes to hormones and student loan payments.
>>5204467
iktf
Mine also would already be done if I had the money.
Farm and medical are soaking up much of mine.
Are there any transbians in here who never got SRS and their genitalia works decent? I want to go through HRT and transition so bad but me and my girlfriend agree my penis is staying.
>>5183220
I never really had much of guiding hand in transition back when I started years ago. I've been coasting on my youthful looks for a long time, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should look into make up, fashion, and the like now that I'm getting older.
>>5204887
Mine gets hard but is noticeably smaller and quicker to deflate. It also doesn't produce any fluids.
>>5204918
>>5204928
I've heard that over time it gets worse, are either of you planning on ever getting SRS? I know I never would but does the HRT change how you feel about your genitalia in any way? do you like the changes? Sorry so many questions, I'm on the verge of starting my transition or just not doing it at all...
>>5204960
I want SRS, but I doubt I'll ever be able to afford it. I know I've had time to save up considering it has been years, but I'm horrible at managing money. Not having it does keep me from doing a lot of things I love and does make me feel anxious constantly, but I'm trying to deal with it the best I can.
>>5204887
In general from those I've talked to, the emphasis is 'use it or lose it'. If you use it regularly it should be okay. I'm not sure about it being a lifelong thing but..... Well just use a strapon if it stops working I guess. I've no idea how non-op works past the 4-5 year mark.
>>5204960
>I've heard that over time it gets worse, are either of you planning on ever getting SRS? I know I never would but does the HRT change how you feel about your genitalia in any way? do you like the changes? Sorry so many questions, I'm on the verge of starting my transition or just not doing it at all...
Originally I didn't want SRS because of fear but as time goes by I've begun to want it more and more. If not for finances I probably would have gone through with it. As is I pretty quickly stopped worrying about what I had below (now I angst about my breasts, figures). Though to be fair I haven't dated since hrt so I'm not sure how it'll pan out when I actually end up in bed with someone.
>>5204887
20 months in
still gets hard fine
went from 5.5" to 3" erect length
balls less than half the size they were.
only precum and a dribble now.
I'm pounding my with 5mg Fin a day in addition to the 200mg Spiro and 4mg Estrogen.
If you don't get hard, you can always use viagra.
>>5204960
I plan to get SRS as soon as I can afford it.
Sorry to say this, but if you have dysphoria, transition now is much better than later. If you loose D function, you can always get SRS and a Feeldoe.
Can anyone tell me how to get rid of y nasally voice. What training should I do?
Hey senpai
Today marks a day I've been hoping for a long time to happen. I have finally started having dreams that I remember vividly once again. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but I used to get the most vivid and detailed dreams when I was a young child, and it is something I've truly missed since it was all the time, and it just stopped one day when I was maybe 12, and still felt myself to be a girl. The dreams themselves aren't always pleasant, but they are so potent and interesting! Either way, this is an exciting day for me!
I guess this doesn't mean it will keep happening but I certainly can hope, and I will. The day when anyone stops dreaming is a sad day indeed.
>>5206013
lol
>>5201898
I'm getting it from Chett, SRS, trachea shave and a lip lift. Since all the trans women I know that went either with him or Suporn were all quite content with the results, I figured I'd save a little money. Also, it was hard to convince my mother to come and help during the recovery, so I figured being in Bangkok would be a lot more pleasant than Chonburi for her, even though she's not likely to wander in town on her own. I hope staying together for a month will help her getting used to her daughter. She's neither surprised nor outraged by my transition, but she doesn't like my being "prissy". That includes wearing makeup, jewelry and any clothes that didn't come out of a bargain bin or junkyard. I joke you not, I'm from the countryside, and as a kid, we often did a bit of family "shopping" for clothes, toys and furniture in the local garbage patches. And I quickly learned to avoid eating any mystery meat at home since my father isn't averse to collecting and cooking roadkill if it's fresh enough. So, well, the transition from male to female isn't as jarring to them as going from hick to somewhat elegant and stylish woman. There's just no way I'm going to wear overalls ever again anyway.
>tfw no gf
>>5207876
iktf
Potc hit the other thread with no survivors
Help
>>5208439
oh god shes still here
>>5208439
at least she doesn't shit up this thread...
on the other hand this thread is pretty dead
does anyone here know of any good chill makeup tutorials for trans girls? i've been wanting to feminize my face a bit (brow shaping, eyeliner, etc) but have no knowledge of it and am really nervous to try it myself
>>5210187
just watch any makeup tutorial. Cis girls and trans girls apply makeup the same way. The only difference might be for covering up a beard shadow. But that's easy. You just pat on cc cream then apply concealer and powder over those areas.
>finally ask girl out
>feeling great
>someone tells me that she doesn't actually want to go, she just is interested in me as a friend and didn't want to disappoint me
>it turns out this is true
What the fuck?
And this is the second time something similar has happened
Why don't people just communicate their actual feelings instead of lying all the time? It's like my paranoia is coming to life
>>5210337
That sounds horrifying, and I agree. I'd much rather be told (hopefully nicely) that 'I'm not interested' then some kind of pity date. Eesh!
>>5210187
Sorry, I don't. I'd just google specifics 'brow shaping tutorial, etc' and look for high views/stars and consider if its for you
>>5207037
Congratulations! That sounds wonderful
>>5206013
Hi Evie
>>5205393
I'd suggest trying to 'play' in the same range with your voice and see if anything seems to help, or maybe try a voice tutorial and start from the beginning
>>5200442
Congratulations CFH!
>>5205325
I'm curious
you shrank a ton, are you just not really "using" it at all? I heard that it doesn't shrink if you get occasional erections
I want to leave enough for the SRS surgeon to work with
>>5210802
The worst thing is that I'm pretty confident with my looks but this was a pretty big blow to that
>>5207037
Cool! Hope they continue for you. The dreams I miss are the the precog ones I used to get. I met every important person in my life in a morning wakeup dream long before I ever saw them. Yeah, I know it sounds impossible, but when younger I wrote all the dreams down, and drew the faces of the people in them. Later I'd get a deja vu episode and there it was in a dream complete with the same faces. I used to get the dreams a few times a year. I've only had one of these dreams in the past decade, and haven't had a single deja vu episode.
>>5207143
>So, well, the transition from male to female isn't as jarring to them as going from hick to somewhat elegant and stylish woman.
LOL I have a friend in a similar boat. She grew up in the Kentucky hills. She described a life like you did. She's now making good money doing java programming, and has a sweet wife who is also a programmer. Between them they make more than all her relatives combined.
>>5210337
Eep! Yeah, I wouldn't like that. I hope you have better luck in the future.
>>5210820
I'm not using it much. I tried to in the beginning, but I now have zip sex drive unless somebody revs me up by flirting with me.
>I want to leave enough for the SRS surgeon to work with
same here, but I realize I maybe won't need much more depth than is needed to stimulate my prostrate.
>tfw cloudy day
I keep my heat at 70, and the sun pushes the temps inside up to 80 on many sunny days. That's not happening today. :(
>>5206013
People still Rock those?
I like guys and I just decided to click on this thread, why the fuck is this place so much more tolerable than /mtfg/?
>>5213147
It might be a smaller pool of people, it could be the slower pace, or..... not entirely sure. Maybe we're just lucky?
>>5213125
That sounds delightful, I'm glad its turning out well for you
>>5210820
>The worst thing is that I'm pretty confident with my looks but this was a pretty big blow to that
I can just imagine. Ugh that's horrible. I hope you get passed it quickly.
so... if im a trans girl who is into girls, and i live on this sad cruel earth, how do i go about finding a gf?
>>5204887
>Are there any transbians in here who never got SRS and their genitalia works decent?
Hi.
>>5205393
Keep working on it. Seriously. Chances are it sounds/will sound good, but you just don't sound like you're used to using it.
Alternatively, talk with your teeth, not with your lips.
>>5210187
Honestly, you can watch makeup tutorials for cis girls too y'know. Once you know what's called what and what it's used for, all it really boils down to is making different features look smaller or larger, warmer or bluer.
All you really need for an everyday look is foundation, concealer, powder and eyeliner.
Eyeliner isn't fun at first though.
>>5213147
Because lesbians that's why.
>>5214051
>Step 1: Find a girl
>Step 2: Ask her out
But it probably helps if you know she's into girls or if she knows you're into girls.
Just speaking from experience, I tend not to ask girls out if I think they're straight and the few that have made the first move have been aware that I'm lesbian. So.
>>5214051
>>5214166
Generally... just be open and honest. At worst you're gonna get shot down. Take your time to focus on yourself and put yourself out there, be social and enjoy life. That's my suggestion, I'm still working on the social aspect myself.
>>5214245
>put yourself out there
I keep reading this, yet still don't know what to how even.
>>5214359
Generally putting yourself out there just means letting people know when you're interested and being open to the idea of dating. Go out and do things and get to know people pretty much from what I know.
>>5205393
post voice
>tfw huge head
>literally the biggest hat size
what do
>>5215993
7-7/8 here... yeah it sucks having a big head. Finding wigs is difficult.
My ex sent me a line yesterday... I was thinking about her and sending Diwali greetings. Done now, a day late...
>>5214440
>Go out and do things and get to know people pretty much from what I know.
I already do that as much as I can from my own capacity... which admittedly isn't much at all really, I need someone to tag along to get started at least.
I'm not in an environment where I meet new people, and I'm not capable enough to put myself in one (which, I wouldn't even know where and how) all alone right now.
>>5216302
"ex" is such a foreign concept to me .__.
>>5216715
I think its understandable for people in our situation to have trouble going out and meeting people. One step at a time, you'll get there.
How's your regret going guys?
>tfw you could've transitioned at 14 but you repressed it because the internet told you girls only like dominant, muscular, hairy guys
>tfw you wasted years of your life working out and attempting to grow facial hair only to find that at age 20 literally the last thing you want on your face is a beard
>tfw your hulking muscles in the mirror now give you a stinging sensation of rage, fear, panic, and disgust
>tfw your shoulder circumference is now 46"
>tfw if you had just listened to your heart you could've been a 5'4" petite princess getting the shit beat out of her by fat lesbians
I'm waiting for the anger to turn into depression rn, how about you girls?
>>5220247
It took me a bit of time to come to terms with the fact I transitioned at 27 rather then teens due to repression, but I try my best to look forward to the life to come rather then the time already lost.
Sometimes its hard to keep that outlook, but its much better on my heart I find.
twas me >>5216106
>>5220247
>How's your regret going guys?
I regret not trying harder to find transition docs OK with younger than 18 when I was young. I was fucked up and just going to a doc was hard enough. Nothing I can do about it now, but forge ahead and make the best of what I got.
>tfw 45" under bust, and 48" bust. Still don't properly fill out most 44AA bras. Shoulder circumference is 49".
>>5213147
Real answer? bc majoroty of posters here are numbed by the bad quality of their life and live in happy delusions ;)
>>5220566
Because almost everyone in /mtfg/ is an AGP roleplayer avatarfag who wants to be a little girl from animus because it's a way for him to erase his sordid and fucked-up past.
They project this image onto us because of course it's impossible for a transgender person to be homosexual.
In other news. Just got off the phone with a friend from when I was young. We talked a bunch about things I did. She described how my face would go blank and my emotions would vanish when there was conflict, when somebody treated me as a guy, or somebody called me a by my guy name. Otherwise I was a pretty happy teen girl, if a bit weird, who was too smart. She also thought it was funny that I could be smashed out of my brains on heroin, yet think straight enough to tutor her in physics and biology.
That freezing is a pretty good indication I was dropping into freeze mode of fight or flight back then. In later years I learned how to put on an act that gave my face some life instead of just being frozen. Even my animated act of a face wasn't perfect. It never properly reacted to startling events. Years later that was noted by an author, we had a good discussion on it, and she incorporated it into a character for her main series of books.
>>5220247
Oh I don't really have regret, because I realize now in many ways I needed the last 10 years to gain resolve, knowledge and skills I've relied on heavily to transition. If I had transitioned then, I can only imagine the skittish and nervous mess I would be.
>>5220433
I finally went and got properly measured for size when I went shopping a few weeks ago. I am closing in on a 36A, which I feel very lucky about since I started at 30.
>>5221228
>Oh I don't really have regret, because I realize now in many ways I needed the last 10 years to gain resolve, knowledge and skills I've relied on heavily to transition. If I had transitioned then, I can only imagine the skittish and nervous mess I would be.
Fair enough. I guess that kind of applies to me to. I mean back then I just figured I was going through a phase and that my desire to be a girl would pass and was a fetish or something.
I'm still mad at myself though.
hey i'm bi can I still be part of this club?
>>5221707
Yes, though that's literally in the OP. Also I'm bi too, hi!
>>5221707
The majority of the thread is bisexual actually, only a few are girls only.
>>5221754
Ahh I missed that. cool cool.
>>5221791
How are things going?
>>5221228
>>5221512
This time I started transition on my own. I too needed to learn a lot, and am still learning more. When I tried before I had a large number of friends cheering me on. The love and friendship they gave me gave me strength to help me find myself and keep going even when I was unsure of myself.
Something I realized during my last therapy session is that love and friendship was also doing for me what the EMDR sessions did. I could talk to my friends about my issues, and the unconditional love and support given in return was helping me heal. They make and provide the safe zone to heal.
I need to work on strengthening my friendship ties here and with the friends I still have around the world.
>>5221707
Yes. I'm bi too. We just mostly leave the boy talk to /mtfg/ so the lesbians don't have to deal with it. I also like the respite from it too.
>>5194834
10/10 2qt. Please tell me you live in the Pacific Northwest
>>5220684
yeah this.
Morning wakeup call!!!!
How is everybody this morning?
I'm unfortunately only OK. I should go to the meeting today.
>>5228148
>only OK
I wish I could be "only OK" ._.
Morning
>>5228158
*HUGS*
>>5194834
Date me you punk
General question
How do I start a lewd business of selling my socks and underwear? Making money is hell and this seem infinitely easier.
>>5228263
>>5228148
>I should go to the meeting today.
I realized I don't have anything to wear. So I'm doing laundry. I guess I should have done a couple loads yesterday.
A paragraph that caught my attention.
>It's also important to be aware that severe stress or trauma that occurs early in life like childhood abuse, neglect or loss of the primary caregiver, as well as acute life-threatening events in adulthood like a car accident, living in a war zone, rape or other violent acts, or a natural disaster can cause permanent and irreversible damage to the stress response system, which leaves the individual with stress circuits that remain in a hypersensitive state and perpetuate sympathetic nervous system dominance throughout their life. This, of course, leaves the individual highly susceptible to developing any of the conditions associated with dysautonomia.
Hum...
only kinda fits. as in weak cases of orthostatic hypotension, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, and gastroparesis.
>>5228458
Cute!
>>5228364
First: Develop a persona such that people will desire such items of yours.
Second: Start marketing them.
>>5228473
cats saving the day again
>>5228539
:)
Acute orthostatic intolerance I definitely have. I've had it since I was young.
Interesting, "the ability to touch the tip of the nose with the tongue" is a possible sign of Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. It's an inherited connective tissue disorder. I fail that test... I need to exercise and stretch my tongue like I used to do.
Just got back from my third laser session. It went well, but still hurt obviously. Really glad my skin takes really well to lasers and doesn't even get red.
I had to wait 9 weeks since my last appointment due to reasons, which left me feeling really hairy recently, ick. Really looking forward to the day when this won't even be a thing I have bothering me regularly. Fortunately it is all concentrated to my upper lip, but that area is super noticeable to me and it made me so anxious.
>>5228663
I think a long tongue could be a symptom of a lot of things
hi girls how's your day going !?
it's been age since the last time i came here !
> live in paris
> cops check everyone
> had to explain why i look like a girl despite written male on my ID
> fuck the terrorist
but it seems like i pass cause they didn't believed me at first :3
>>5214051
i don't know if it's a good advice, but, pub help a lot to meet people, i met 75% of my gf/bf their, but it seems that i tend to open a lot to strangers when i'm drunk so maybe that's why it's the easiest way for me
>>5228932
Yeah, 10% of the population has it, but 50% of those with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome have it. I just think it is interesting that it is a confirming feature for a a number of genetic mutations.
>>5229013
*HUGS*
Hi, how are you handling it?
> had to explain why i look like a girl despite written male on my ID
You know, this may be a way to spur them to change the rules for ID gender change. I'm sure cases like your will be clogging the checkpoints.
out with gf atm and thought I'd say hi again
what's everyone up to ?
what did I miss ?
and since this thread is slpw anyway, ask me anything
will reply once back home
>>5229926
why are you dressed like Chloe from Life is Strange
>>5229926
you remind me of a young Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day.
>>5229926
lol wrong pic
>>5229948
no idea who that is sorry
![latest[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/teWGthj.png "latest[2].png")
>>5229957
>>5229956
Kek
>>5229926
Hi lala, not too much just had the flu and been out of it the past week. Now busy taking care of my family because of course they have it.
>>5229013
Hi Nidel
I'm glad you're okay and I hope you and your loved ones are safe. I'm glad to know you pass so well though that the cops didn't believe you
>>5228900
Ow. I'm so glad you got to go again. I hope the laser takes well!
>>5230006
only one personn i know is in the hospital right now, but it should be fine, so it might have been worse.
for a moment he thought that it was my brother on my ID
>>5229378
it's kinda hard, i mean, i knew a lot of people who was their and might have been killed, hopefully only one got injured and he is safe now
also i heard that some politician want to create a laws concerning trans cause they aren't any right now, so i hope this is gonna help a little, so maybe in some year it's gonna be more easy to be trans
>>5230157
When I heard a concert hall was attacked, my heart leapt. I knew a few friends were heading to Paris to see a couple shows this weekend. Turns out it was a play and an opera on Saturday, and they were still in the air when events happened. They decided to avoid Paris and France and went and did some early season skiing instead.
On the laws, make your voices heard. Best of luck with them.
>tfw I started disassociating last night, and haven't been able to relax since. I turned off the news awhile ago and that has helped.
>>5231653
Im someone whos new to this, what do you mean by disassociating if its okay to ask?
>>5231676
Disassociation is when the conscious mind stops paying attention to the reptile mind. It can lead to a detached feeling like you are not in your own body, or are just an observer to it. For me I dropped into a totally numb emotional state.
I need to be more careful of what news I pay attention to.
These are a couple good reads on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_disorder
https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-Conditions/Dissociative-Disorders
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>>5231817
these never end well
>>5229013
Unfortunately, we're going to see a lot more random ID checks in the coming weeks, not just in Paris. I cancelled a shopping trip to Toulouse yesterday because of that. I pass flawlessly and my ID could be deemed invalid because my face has changed a lot since the pictures were taken, mostly because of the drastic weight loss... Beginning to think staying at the clinic until I go to Thailand might not be a bad idea. The less I have to get out, the less I risk ending up at a police station explaining who I am to pigs.
>>5231795
That's pretty much a permanent step for me. Like I said to the psychologist here, I'm not divorced from my body, but we definitely sleep in separate beds. Also, when they tell me SRS should help me make peace with my body, I just say that the best that could happen is an armistice. Pretty much always was like that. I remember a middle school teacher admonesting me about it and telling me one cannot live as a pure mind.
I'm not fine with the "transsexual" word, I consider myself a woman, because that's the gender people instinctively assign me. I make people a lot less uncomfortable since I went full time, probably because my previous presentation caused cognitive dissonance and hence, uneasiness. But transhuman? Yeah, just put my brain in a jar and hook it to the net. That's how I feel about my body. Don't care that much about my hair or sexual characteristics, I just want the whole thing gone. Bodies are gross, anyway.
>>5232134
What I think is interesting is how smooth I slip into an out of the disassociative state. I decided to watch the formula 1 practice sessions and that has helped me calm and reconnect. I used to use driving, but gas is so expensive now. I learned to tune into the feel the car and road. It was a sort of meditation for me.
I want a forma body like Catherine Asaro has in some of her books.
...hmm today in one year.
>>5232113
Why not get a new photo taken?
>>5232946
Having to deal with public officers in my current situation is something I'd rather avoid. Even routine stuff like getting parcels from the post office is a hassle. I'll wait until I come back from Thailand, since I'll be able to get a full ID change then.
>>5232215
Me... I guess I was quite tired then. Still tired.
>>5233018
I dread dealing with cops now. I had a thick heavy beard when my DL photo was taken just a couple years ago. At least my hair was also long and gray. The other thing is my eye color has also changed. They are now dark gray, not blue. I also lost all the amber and green spots and halos they had. They are continuing to change, now a couple diffuse areas that are lightly tinted amber or blue are starting to show up, but they are totally different than the ones I used to have. I also have a couple black radial lines, and black halos forming. You need bright light to see the new colored features, where the old ones showed up easily. The dark gray is what mainly shows in most lighting conditions.
Another fun thing. In the mail on Friday was one of those offers for a cheap personalized charm necklace sold at an astronomical price with yours and your partner's names engraved on it. For me they were offering it with my birth name, and my chosen name.
So I am to be kidnapped and taken to an event tomorrow evening it seems. Totally going to be seeing the Star Wars release with friends.
>>5233018
>>5233374
One of the first things I did locally is talk to the local police officers and tell them about my situation, because they all come through the place I work anyways, and they are all mostly nice. It just seemed like a good idea that if I had anything going on sometime, it'd be a good idea if they had an idea of what is up before it gets awkward.
>>5233374
which reminds me that I still need to change my drivers license :x
that photo was taken when I was 17, it doesn't even remotely look anything like me, lol.
>tfw accidentally refer to myself as female while talking but I'm in the closet
>>5234176
The local sheriff and a couple of the deputies know me. I worry more about the ones in the areas I often drive through and in Des Moines where they don't know me.
International travel is at least OK. I now have a passport with my current photo, chosen name, gender and stats, but the address is old. Opps. It was quickly reissued from a combination of old and new data.
>>5234478
any reactions?
>>5200401
thanks for the discovery, I never heard of her before
Okay so I'm super pleased with myself. I'm not gonna blog too much but I've been pretty upfront in this thread about my weight issues, and while its nothing major I finally hit under 200. I'm totally stoked about it even though I still have a lot more to go!
>>5230157
I'm very glad they'll recover.
>>5231653
I'm glad you found something that helps Syndie
>>5232946
>>5233018
Ugh I'm rather in the same boat, until I can get my ID changed it seems pointless to go through all the hassle to still have that M Marker on it.
>>5234176
I hope you have a wonderful time!
Why the hell are there like, 5 or 6 mtf generals right now? I can't even tell which one is the current one there's so many in the catalog.
I guess I'll post here what I was going to post there.
>before coming out and starting transition
>depressed and stressed because no relationship ever and feels like nobody wants me or loves me
>after coming out and starting transition
>depressed and stressed because it feels like too many people are trying to get with me (assume they're mostly if not all men)
>don't like rejecting people but insanely stressed the fuck out over how to even handle all these people trying to get into my pants
>makes me want to re-integrate with society even less than i did before
>makes me just want to die because it feels like life is just endless torture no matter what path i take
I can't handle being around people or even being social with them.
It's just too much for me. At this point I think my life would just be easier if I lived it entirely alone forever. I don't even care about having sex anymore, even though I never have.
>>5236034
Congratulations!!! on the weight.
>IDs
I've thought it may be good to get my current mug and eye color on mine.
>>5236219
>I can't handle being around people or even being social with them.
I have to be careful with the numbers of people. With a few I know I'm ok. Too many and I get overloaded and disassociate.
Who is your favorite celebrity?
Herp derp where do I learn to speak bra?
>>5236681
>I have to be careful with the numbers of people. With a few I know I'm ok. Too many and I get overloaded and disassociate.
Yeah, it's freaking me out. But it's also making me depressed because I feel bad for not talking to them or doing things with them. It's not like I don't like them either, for the most part, all of my acquaintances are sweet people. I just... can't handle it all. And when it comes to flirting, I get afraid because I don't know if this is the right person for me. I feel like I don't know them enough. It scares me though. I don't like hurting people. I know all too well how much it hurts to feel rejected. I would never want to put that feeling upon someone else.
>>5236852
When getting into a relationship, you never know if they are perfect or not. So all you can do is take them for test drives and see how they are. Sadly rejection, and doling out rejection aare part of the dating process.
>>5237147
I don't like it. I'd rather avoid it entirely. Too much worrying for me.
>>5236219
Sadly, it sounds like you need to learn how to tell people you're not interested. A lot of people have problems with this so you're not alone. I hope you can come to accept that rejecting someone is surprisingly not personal, if you're not interested then you're not interested. Just be polite about it.
>>5236681
Thank you kindly.
>>5236801
I am not overly into the celebrity scene, I'm sorry.
>>5236825
Google-fu. When in doubt go to a bra store and ask for a fitting/talk to an employee.
>>5237147
>>5237162
There are certainly times in our life its better to step away from dating and you might just be best stating that. I'm still coming to terms with myself, I don't want to date anyone right now. A flat out 'no relationship' rule is a pretty easy thing to respond with since it seems you don't want it at all.
So
Where does one find chicks that are okay with dating trans people?
I'm like... hyper androgynous at the moment, not quite here or there so dating is fucking impossible
>>5237217
BISEXUAL GIRLS
THEY EXIST AND THEY LOVE BEING PROGRESSIVE AND DATE TRANSGIRLS
>>5237242
Yes but where do I /find/ the bisexual girls
I've had some luck in the past but I'm looking for consistent prospects
>>5237217
You can always try lgbt events. While its a bit overdone, especially in smaller communities its the easiest way to find people who are open. It's not my personal thing but I'm also not super sociable.
>>5237242
Bisexual girls are a good choice of a partner for trans folk in my opinion, yes
>>5237309
Good luck Lain.
Goodnight tlg, sleep sweetly and pleasant dreams.
>>5234221
Actually, my driving license is the one piece of ID I still can show. Really looked like a girl with neck length hair when the picture was taken. I was about as slim as I'm now, quite unlike my passport picture.
>tfw I found out a friend I'd fallen out of touch with is now chair of a LGBT advocacy group.
(pic) Things I did as a kid. I remember watching these buildings go up. I've long been fascinated by architecture, and at one time was thinking of it as a career. I also remember reading lots of psych books from the medical library in the low flat building under them.
>>5237309
Good luck!
You aren't alone. I need to get my own courage up and get out and make more friends myself. I also need to strengthen some of the friendships I have.
>>5236002
She is one of many highly intelligent women over the ages. Sadly society often doesn't respect them.
>>5237147
was me, I was a bit tired then. Even with friendships you have to take them for a test drive. Over the years I side stepped a lot of that by letting friends introduce me to others. I have been able to go and make some friends on my own. I did it through clubs for stuff I was interested in.
>>5237217
It has been my experience bisexuals often gravitate to clubs and bars that are inclusive to all sexualities. There are also the LGBT events, bars, clubs, and coffee houses.
>>5237928
I do have one ID with an up to date photo, but the address is 30 years old. At least the rest of the stats are correct.
>>5239391
>Someone on 4chan is actually from Stony Brook
>A transgender lesbian on 4chan is actually from Stony Brook
oh yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>5239627
Mom got her PhD there. Some times she would bring me along for the day or two. Mom had a room in a retired professor's house that she slept overnight at. Otherwise she commuted from home. I found the libraries a perfect playground for learning. I spent my hellish childhood out on the north fork. Then I ran away to the city and was taught by the art crowd, and fashionistas. The days at Stony Brook were mini holidays from the other kids.
>>5239391
What are "all sexuality" bars marketed as?
>>5237250
>where do I /find/ the bisexual girls
With dykes.
Good luck.
Well, it has been 8 days since I had my first vivid dream again, and since that time I've had a total of 6 dreams I can solidly recall, so I feel it is safe to say I got my wish and my dreams are back for real. I've started a dream journal because alot of them are really interesting to me as well.
One of my friends is moving into my apartment, a girl friend that has been helping me out a fair bit, so this is pretty exciting! Going to be helping her move things for the next few days, and I am really just excited to have another girl around the place, since all my previous roommates have been boys.
oi what's going on ?
>>5229956
k
>>5229968
never played this game but I can see what you mean lol
>>5230006
awww hope they get well soon
>>5244322
I asked Imi this yesterday but she directed me your way
To train to be a teacher in Austria, do you have to study at the University? Are there any other separate institutions where you can train for such things?
Good morning girls! Let's do our best oday, okay?
>>5244474
PH is a possibility apart from university.
Takes 3 years but it's piss easy. 2 extra for masters if you want to teach 5-8 graders.
>>5245027
Thank you (presumably) Austrian anon! You have really helped me out :3
>>5245085
Thank you anon
>>5246608
Most cis lesbians aren't going to be too crazy about the PIV sex for obvious reasons.
>>5246778
Probably because it was kinda creepy, what with the seducing lesbians to take your dick and all.
>>5246802
but i pass so its ok?
>>5246828
No. I'm a cis lesbian and don't care how cute you are, you're not putting it in me. It's gross.
Like, if you are my partner, I want to be happy, so I'd suck it up and do a handjob or blowjob if that's what you want, but PIV is where I draw the line.
And I'm relatively open-minded here, a lot of cis lesbians are not even going to consider that.
>>5246828
No? There are some bi girls into that kind of thing, go try them. Saw your post before it was deleted, I'd highly suggest some place like Fetlife to find someone to meet your needs.
>>5246828
>>5246802
I still don't get why so many people feel the need to pursue L's when they're pre-op. If I was pursued by one who didn't mind I was trans it'd be one thing, but generally i'd only consider actively pursuing a bi-girl myself. Asking out a Lesbian just seems... awkward.
>>5244624
Good morning anon! Have a wonderful day!
>>5244322
Thank you lala, I do too. My son is doing better, my mom is still ill tho
>>5243929
I haven't had a roommate in a very long time and he was pretty much family, I hope it goes well for you Cali!
>>5246840
*I want you and me to be happy
Sorry
Hello my least favourite straight males! How are you this fine eve? Let me guess you still don't pass you have "dysorphia" and you're pre-op and are so depressed beacuse the whole world is against you and you just want someone right?
I just need to know in all honesty, why? why do you go through all this trouble? why bother to change your gender so you can be with females that will never want you? the two stories you read about a cis les. and a straight guy camouflaged as a girl dating together are lies manufactured by straight mentally impaired men who will never achieve anything in life and assume everythings easier if you're the victim and MUHH FEELINGS IM TRANS I SWER!!! dont cut my dick tho
you make me sick, you filthy porks, haram porks. jesus christ what is wrong with you what is missing from your life so much? actually don't answer i already know, you ill never get pussy so you try to be the pussy but you can't even be determined enough to become the pussy. You bring a shame to the real transgender community with your made up problems.
>"i was going to my car after the lgbt meeting we had on campus, the majority there are mtfs and we were having an argument about pre op and post op and those unwilling to get an op
>and we did argue quite a bit
>and when i was going to the parking lot
>i was attacked by 2 what i thought were men but turned out to be mtfs from the group, i recognized their clothing, they kicked me until i was on the ground.
>why are they like that, why are they so aggressive??? "
My friend just sent me this on skype, which one of you was it?
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transbians
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you are the reason attacks in paris happen
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Am I too bulky for hrt?
I figured HRT would get rid of my muscles but now I'm getting new information that they apparently don't do shit and some sources tell me that some people are just built bulky and there's nothing they can do about it.
I fucking hate my muscles. Is there any hope for me getting rid of them?
Here's my back btw.
>>5247290
btw I'm 5'7.5" and 21 years old.
>>5247290
>5247290
square body, stop transitioning hon you wont make it
>>5247290
They do for muscles.
When starting hrt I weighed more, yet in my pre hrt photos I looked much slimmer.
Now I look softer and fatter but weigh the same if not maybe a couple less pounds.
Then it hit me muscle weighs more than fat.
And estrogen melts muscle like butter.
Not to crush your hopes, but you skelital frame looks pretty wide.
Assuming it was just your muscle.
Get on hrt and go on a high carb low protein diet.
That shit will wreck your muscles.
>>5247309
I'm not even on HRT
>>5247223
Thks. You know, all I had to do was to let go, really.
>>5247328
You're not that slender m8.
>>5247325
What the fuck is a skeletal frame
>>5247290
>Is there any hope for me getting rid of them?
yes, HRT will zap testosterone so it will be easier to get rid of the muscles.
>>5247603
I feel so fucking ugly right now
Google is telling me nothing please what the fuck is a skeletal frame and how is it wide.
How does this crush my hopes what the fuck
>>5247672
here's another pic of me, this time I'm not flexing my back or anything.
>>5247720
Yeah, no. But if you have a great cute face, you never know.
>>5247909
what the fuck does no mean
