what's the best cleveland legal gun for self defense poiposes?
Article? I'd like to read the details.
>>30668120
You can call a dog a cat if you want.
Police don't have that authority, so who gives a fuck?
>>30668137
This. Temporary revocation of the second amendment will result in the permanent revocation of their lives
The police want a ban while the republican con is going on. The mayor, a republican, said no.
>>30668126
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/17/cleveland-police-union-calls-for-ban-on-open-carry-as-fears-of-violence-mount-ahead-of-rnc/?utm_term=.448baf7fa7ae
Technically, firearms are illegal at the convention. Through a post 9/11 federal law that bans firearms where ever Secret Service Agents are working and or National Security Events.
The Super Bowl gets Secret Service protection. So no firearms allowed there.
Trump has secret service. So no firearms at the convention.
All the Feds have to do is enforce this and arrest anyone immediately outside the convention.
Governor already told them to go fuck themselves, that he doesn't have that power and wouldn't do it if he did.
> pigs shot for steamrolling the constitution
> in response, want to steamroll the constitution in a heavier truck
Pigs must love sleeping in blankets
>>30668345
>Governor already told them to go fuck themselves, that he doesn't have that power and wouldn't do it if he did.
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>>30668152
Woah watchout for Johnny Badass over here
>>30668345
>TFW no based as fuck guvnah
>>30668382
>tfw John Kasich is more based than you were
>>30668165
While we're at it, why don't we just ban groups greater than 3 in size and have the people of Cincinnati put up members of the national guard in their homes in case of riots?
>>30668382
http://mobile.nytimes.com/live/police-shooting-in-baton-rouge/kasich-will-not-restrict-guns-at-convention/
"On Sunday afternoon, Stephen Loomis, the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association, said that Mr. Kasich should temporarily suspend “open carry” for the sake of security. Mr. Loomis said in an interview with CNN that he did not care “if it’s constitutional or not.”
Mr. Kasich’s office rejected the idea as legally impossible.
“Ohio governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state laws as suggested,” Ms. Kalmbach said. “The bonds between our communities and police must be reset and rebuilt – as we’re doing in Ohio – so our communities and officers can both be safe. Everyone has an important role to play in that renewal.”"
>>30668423
>Everyone has an important role to play in that renewal.”"
Yeah, dont let blm near the convention and everything will be great. :^)
>>30668120
>>30668126
"temporary ban of second amendment" means theyre asking people to not OC like assholes. Just this morning they had a police spokes person saying it wasnt legal and couldnt happen, just not to OC is a threatening manner
>>30668423
>said that Mr. Kasich should temporarily suspend “open carry” for the sake of security. Mr. Loomis said in an interview with CNN that he did not care “if it’s constitutional or not.”
Vilppu is better anyways.
>>30668422
Nobody needs assault crowds. If you can't get your point across with three people you're a lousy protestor.
>>30668423
>the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association,
so not an actual cop, just a groupie who thinks he is.
>>30668763
He's a union rep, who are universally garbage people
>>30668382
>>30668398
>kasich
>based
ask me how I know you don't live in ohio
How long has the government been using niggers as an excuse for gun control, now?
>>30668120
>“We are sending a letter to Governor Kasich requesting assistance from him,” Loomis told CNN. “He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something — I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point. They can fight about it after the RNC, or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over.”
>don't care if it's constitutional or not
>don't care if it's constitutional
STATISTS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30668854
I reckon about 200 or so years
>>30668854
Forever one way or another.
>>30668418
Kasich is literally so butt bothered by the public humiliation Trump gave him that he's endangering his own citizens in hopes that some crazy assassin will get a lucky shot off.
And I say this as a libertarian who is autistically devoted to gun rights. Tensions are too high right now. Leave the guns at home boys.
Kasich is a fucking problem and he needs to be physically removed.
>>30669063
Nah, Kasich is perfectly correct as far as the Constitution goes. Which is the highest law in the country.
The police union can get fukt
>>30669063
>>30669082
Who says you can't both be right?
>>30669063
The problem is that this won;t protect anyone because of preexisting laws regarding secret service. the only thing it'll do is hassle law abiding people who happen to be nearish the convention. You are a shitty libertarian if you can't wrap your head around police being powertripping faggots for the sake of it.
>>30669063
That just makes you a hypocrite.
>>30669063
>Libertarian
>Against freedoms
No, I'm a libertarian. You're a hypothetical faggot.
>>30669063
>might encounter some resistence
>better leave the guns at home goys- i mean guys
>people who plan on gunning down pigs carry guns regardless of wether its legal or not
>civilians caught in crossfire between criminals and cops won't even be able to defend themselves
I suppose in the alternate situation the cops would have a hard time telling the difference between criminal civvies with guns and normal civvies with guns
There are arguments for both sides but seriously there is no chance of a compromise between polarized shitbags on either side of the debate
Is that a state where you can OC weapons that are larger than a handgun?
>>30669101
the constitution
Why don't they ban liberals busing in paid protesters
>>30669063
Hillary shills pretending to be libertarians
What a world
>>30668165
>I don't care if it's constitutional or not
At least he's not honest
>>30669511
he's an avowed enemy of the state
>>30669461
That'd be covered by interstate commerce shit, which is an entire other ball of wax and unleash the feds into the situations.
>>30669591
>>/pol/
Please, faggot, be better than this.
>>30669063
Go lube up your favorite gun and fuck yourself you raging faggot.
Also MAGA!
>>30669666
Bless your heart, child. If you stay in school you can be an astronaut when you grow up
>>30669591
>yfw the nigger has better trigger control than most fudds.
>>30668810
>unions are shit lol fuck unions
No thank you I like my health insurance
>>30668120
Fun fact - niggers ruined open carry gun rights in CA as well.
I'd be so against a political convention being in my state. Just seems like a concentrated clusterfuck of degenerate retards. Nothing good can come of it.
>>30670740
Politicians ruined open carry in CA. Black people showed what 2A was there for and white people got scared.
>>30668120
Fun Fact:
In CA, any protest is automatically a place where firearms are prohibited, it doesn't matter if it's at the Capitol or in the middle of the desert.
Really makes you think... what are they afraid of?
>>30670735
I've worked with plenty of unions. I like what they accomplished back in the day, doesn't change the fact that every union rep I've dealt with was literal human slime that skimmed employee's paychecks in exchange for protecting lazy, worthless sacks of shit while ignoring the concerns of decent workers
>>30670740
>the police seizes an opportunity to close the grip on gun rights
>ITS THE NIGGERS FAULT
how does it feel to be a statist pig addicted to the government cock?
>>30669063
>telling me what to do with my property
Go fuck yourself, son.
>>30670751
this.
if you don't support your fellow black man when he uses the 2A for what it was designed for (i.e opposing a tyrant government oppressing them) then why the fuck do you want the 2A for?
OCing in starbucks because MOMS GONNA FREAK?
go fuck your pillow waifu, you autist kid
>>30670800
#1
Police aren't oppressing black people. Blacks are just really stupid and are having a yet another collective chimpout.
#2
Even if blacks are oppressed (they're not, in any way whatsoever) murdering innocent policemen in cold blood is not fighting tyranny
#3
The second amendment was not written with black people or a multicultural state in mind, and to imply that it was is ahistorical bullshit.
#4
You're a colossal cock gobbler.
>>30669538
If China invaded America, you fucking clowns would be talking about their "constitutional rights" too
>>30670800
blacks were slaves when the 2nd amendment was designed
>>30670764
>I like what they accomplished back in the day
Ever thought that what the unions supposedly accomplished is also bullshit, which we only beleive because it happened before we were born, and we were taught about it in a biased way?
>>30671001
keep licking those boots and picking up those cans, piggy lover
>>30671127
>muh constitutional right for blacks to invade & destroy all white communities!
no
>>30669063
>I'm scared of niggers so we should suspend the Bill of Rights
>[I am] autistically devoted to gun rights
>your rights end where my feels begin
>I say this as a libertarian
Please stop talking.
>>30669063
What is up, fellow gun enthusiasts.
>>30671001
#1
>"lol there is no such thing as racial profiling and LEO's always treats blacks as they would treat any other group of people"
#2
>"acting out against your aggressor is not acting out against your aggressor"
#3
>"the constitution does not apply to every citizen just the same, only white folks"
#4
>"I'm an edgy child who just wants the 2A in order to play militia dress up in the mountains"
fuck you
>>30670800
>Fellow man
>Black
Nope
>>30671192
>"lol there is no such thing as racial profiling and LEO's always treats blacks as they would treat any other group of people"
Blacks are arrested LESS than their crime rates, and treated BETTER than they should be based on their crime/actions during arrest
>"acting out against your aggressor is not acting out against your aggressor"
Basically the entire population of blacks lives on the white tax payer dollar, there is no "aggressor" here you fucking retard
>"the constitution does not apply to every citizen just the same, only white folks"
America was intended as a white ethno-state
Not some multi-culti hellhole
The constitution doesn't work in a multi-culti country.
>>30671192
Not that guy, but it's a bit more complex than that. Like, fucking Compton shit was different than BLM shit and what not.
>>30671217
america was also intended to be an isolationist nation of farmers and look what happened
>>30669063
How do those boots taste?
>>30671120
>blacks were slaves when the 2nd amendment was designed
>the only firearms the 2nd amendment allows you to use is a black powder musket
>when the 2nd amendment was written, it was aimed at militias, not every citizen of the US
>I'm a racist neckbearded basement dweller who only cares about the constitution when it doesn't interfere with my daily routine of jerking off to russian rifles and chinese cartoons
this is you.
>>30671217
#1
>muh black privilege
#2
>muh black privilege
#3
>muh segregation
back to /pol/ friendo
>>30671237
>I'm a nig lover who ignores that blacks vote universally for gun grabbers, and that they will ruin any place that they live
kk
>>30668534
Fuck off statist pig
>>30669591
>niggers giving a shit about the constitution
>a requirement for retarded union reps and retards on /k/ to care about it
>>30671265
why is colion noir an NRA spokesperson then
>>30671107
foreigners have natural rights, but that's utterly moot if they're invading
>>30669063
>libertarian
>>hypocrite
This is why nobody takes you seriously
>>30671265
>implying fucking implications
is this how you present an argument in /pol/?
because in here we need a bit more substance than "HURR NIG LOVER"
>>30671265
>Only freedom for some
Back into the oven with you, my friend.
>>30671217
Actually it does.
The problem is integration. No matter how hard of a catholic one is or how much they love their home country, most hispanics are law abiding, the same should apply to blacks but they respect their culture of poverty and media onsession more. Muslims don't integrate because they believe god puts them above the law.
Basically the problem is that blacks and muslims font reapect the law, which is why we SHOULD treat them like shit but we instead hold rallies and meetings to find ways to be more lenient with them.
>>30671308
>>30671296
>nig lovers on /k/
can you please leave, thanks
Nigs and nig lovers are the #1 catastrophe facing America
>>30671309
Legitimately, half the problem with racism in America is black people perceiving more racism then there actually is. There's a growing number of black youth (usually from middle class backgrounds) who aren't buying into the whole shit of "THEM WHITE RASCALLY COPS GON GET U", but they don't stick their necks out cause they'd be ostracized by their own communities.
>>30671265
Daily reminder that cucks like this are partially responsible for why it's not legal to open carry in California anymore and are part of the reason why California can't be saved at this point.
>>30671339
>Non-Hispanic whites decreased from about 76.3 - 78% of the state's population in 1970 to 38.0% in 2015.
Yea and totally wasn't the treasonous ethnic cleansing which happened there huh?
>>30671325
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable among your kind on /pol/
>>30671387
Whites are a very small number on this earth, we will not survive without thinking openly & explicit on racial matters.
>>30671361
No in the case of the former it's because you cucks were so scared of Black Panthers exercising their Constitutionally protected right that your little white dicks receded into your pelvis and then made open carry illegal. In the latter it's because cucks like you attack fellow law abiding America's over stupid shit like what color their mommy and daddy were effectively pushing away people who could be allies if they weren't excluded by white bois who are insecure from watching too much cuck porn.
>>30671001
Yeah mate you're just a racist in every sense of the word
BLM are useful idiots, but the Tyrone's open carrying in Dallas did what all gun owners should do. Extricate themselves from an active shooter scenario. One even gave his longarm to a cop.
>Da founders hated niggers REEEEEEEEEE
tell that to Thomas Jefferson m8
Kindly shut the fuck up Lynn, your ilk are why we look bad.
I need a reliable shotgun but am on a budget at the moment. I have 300$ and am looking at dickinson or legacy. What is the reliability of these two? What are your guys thoughts on these brands? Much appreciated.
>>30671402
>My white dick is a very small object on this earth, I will not feel comfortable about my insecurities without thinking openly & explicit on racial matters.
FTFY, friendo
>>30671647
oops sorry /k this was supposed to be a new thread!
>>30671647
Maverick 88 or used Mossberg 500.
>>30668165
So the cops are going to try and rectify this situation by:
Telling people with guns, who are angry with police being above the law, by decreeing insanely unconstitutional law that'll further enrage those same people?
>>30670740
Undercover liberal post, everybody.
You are working way too hard in trying to sow discord here. Are they paying you extra starbucks cards or something?
>>30671265
seriously, go back to /pol/.
/k/ wont post about positive things about "insert-flavor-race-of-the-month" over in /pol/ and /pol/ shouldnt mock the 2A and think he fits in here.
>>30671402
>this obsessed over black men
There's a word for that kind of behaviour.
>>30671217
Government is always and can only ever be an aggressor. Any action taken against government, including killing police officers, is justified morally.
>>30671881
Autism: the post.
>cops are authoritarian welfare queens that consider themselves above the citizenry
Oh my, color me fucking shocked. Who ever could have seen this coming.
Why are people freaking out about people carrying at/near/in a 100km radius of the RNC?
I fail to see why that would be a problem.
Somehow people with guns = bad, regardless of whether the gun is used or not.
Can someone explain how legal carrying gives someone bent on mass murder an advantage over simply rolling up with a gun and letting loose?
>>30672023
Because "muh feels" and the generally erroneous assumption by liberals and statists that the only reason someone would have a gun is to "do as much damage as they can".
>>30672103
Or, ya know, the serious threat of ISIS and BLM domestic terrorists.
I swear to God you libertarians have gone full retard lately.
>>30672328
>someone legally carries a gun and commits murder
>someone illegally carries a gun and commits murder
What is the difference in results here?
>>30672328
Terrorists don't need open carry to murder you or Herr Trump. They don't even need a gun if Nice is any indication. In fact, they're less likely to open carry if they're going to murder you.
>>30672328
>it's ok to trample over your individual rights in the name of MUH TERRORISM
not this shit again
>>30671275
As based as Colin Noir as, he is an extreme minority. Blacks vote overwhelmingly for more mass welfare, "social programs" and the gun control that comes with those policies.
Just like Colin Noir isn't to blame for the fact that blacks commit an absurdly disproportionate amount of firearm homicides and other violent crimes. Facts are facts, they don't doom every member of a particular group but these trends can't be ignored.
>>30672328
>8 dead
>significant in a country of 300,000,000
You're going to need to sack up, son.
4 generations ago, people your age were getting hit by V-2s, but that didn't mean they abandoned the news stand or stopped selling cigarettes.
>>30668120
>mfw black democrat voters used 2nd amandment before gun nut rednecks
who will the niggers blame for all their problems if they all go back to africa?
>>30668165
>I don't care if it's constitutional or not
>this guy's blood isn't watering the tree of liberty right now
>>30674497
colonialism, then they immigrate to Europe
>>30668165
>I don't care if it's constitutional or not
But isn't that something you swear to uphold when you're sworn in as a cop?
>>30668120
They did try to ban open carry in the state temporarily for the event and Kasich shut them down saying, "absolutely not".
>>30668156
>>30668345
>>30668418
>>30674761
Kasich won the Ohio primary. It's the rest of the country that gave it to Trump.
>>30671334
>half the problem with racism in America is black people perceiving more racism then there actually is
made me kek. If you're seriously going to pretend cops don't shit on minorities on a regular basis, you're just going to lose credibility. They do, we all know it, we've all known it for a while, and we've all accepted it mainly because ghettoblacks in general have been acting like shitheads for a long time.
If niggers want to shoot cops because they feel they have no other political recourse, they are using the 2nd Amendment for its intended purpose. Period. Same thing Dixie did in the civil war.
No, the problem is dindus claiming racism to get out of their shitty behavior. This taints every legitimate complaint of racism. It's like the girl who cries rape because she doesn't want her dad find out that she loved taking 4 cocks in her ass at a frat party ends up fucking everything up for the girl who was drugged by somebody and needs help.
This is what leads you to your mistaken belief that there is a perception gap. There really isn't. People still generally think blacks are less-than. If you doubt it, look at the makeup of upper management in almost any company. We don't like sppoks running things
