Greetings /k/. Between an AR-15, a scoped hunting rifle, and a 12 gauge shotgun, which is the most important long gun to have for a SHTF scenario? Also recommendations needed, I have a $1,000 budget for weapon stuff.
>>30660539
scoped ar-15
>>30660539
Scoped AR
You don't need a hunting rifle to kill most game in North America
White tail and brown bear are still dead with .233
7.62x39 AK
AR-15 is the undisputed STHF king. To say otherwise means you're a fucking retard.
>>30660674
>brown bear dead with .223
>>30660935
It'll work if you get a headshot, and you'll want to go for headshots anyway because a torso wound from anything shy of a .50BMG isn't going to stop a grizzly before it mauls you.
>>30660935
Meant to say black,
>>30661100
Sorta this
.308 or more tho for browns
>>30660935
Are bears even in the top 5 most populous game species in the lower 48?
Alaska may be an exception but not the rest of the country.
>>30661100
>brown bear decides to charge
>I hope I can hit it in its head
>doesn't matter that I'm using 55gr .223, anything shot of .50 would have this same result
>>30660539
Just...buy an AR15. Really.
>>30661141
I mean, a torso shot with a .308 will probably kill it, eventually, but if you don't drop it inside of 10 seconds when it's coming at you you're gonna get fucked up. I think what matters is to have a semiauto, any semiauto, that you can magdump at it and hope for the best.
>>30660674
Brown bears and white tails can be killed with .233 ARs? Those sound amazing, where can I find a .233 upper?
>>30660539
Scoped AR-15. The only reason people aren't hunting deer with .223 AR-15s in fifty states is stupid local laws banning rifle hunting outright, or requiring a 6mm minimum caliber.
>>30660539
In SHTF, the correct choice of rifle is one that chambers the rounds your government's military uses
In America that means an AR
>>30660539
Friends.
>>30661100
>headshot
>brown bear
The skull is the hardest and thickest bone in a bear's body, not to mention the smallest target. You're gonna aim for that as it's charging you at 30mph? You're supposed to go for vital organs numbnuts.
semi auto .270 would be tits
