Need a reason not to hunt bears with a 2 gauge slug. Wild life authority says I shouldn't.
Obama care doesn't cover shoulder reconstructive surgery...
>>30556543
I'm Canadian and our healthcare system does. I'm also not firing it from shoulder, I have a rolling cart built for it
>>30556520
2ga sounds exotic and therefore expensive
>>30556520
Because a slug is just going to wound it and make it suffer needlessly faggot. Get a real gun (read large caliber with accurate sight system) and put the bear down the proper way.
Show some goddamned respect you blockhead. The bear is giving up it's existence for you. The least you can do is give it the meager honor of having a swift death. Hunting should not be sadistic. Fuck, the native Americans figured that shit out when they were still hunting using sticks, animal tendons, and rock chips. Honor your adversary.
>inb4 tree hugging pinko
I never said don't hunt I just said don't shoot to wound, which is exactly what a slug would do.
>>30556582
What fucking kind of bear are you hunting that can take a 2 gauge slug and only be "wounded"?
>>30556582
You know a 2 gauge slug is a 1/2 pound of lead, right?
>>30556578
I self load, but yes, its still a bit pricey
>>30556582
I bet this faggot thought a 2 gauge is smaller than a 12 gauge because the number 2 is smaller than 12
>>30556625
Top kek.
For the guy you're quoting, the size goes
.410 - 20 - 12 - 10 - 8,6,4,2,1, A
>>30556582
>Because a slug is just going to wound it
He could kill a bulldozer with that round.
>The bear is giving up it's existence for you
The bear isn't giving shit. OP is taking his existence and killing all the birds in the area with the concussive force left by the blast that ripped that bear's existence out of the past, present, and future
>>30556643
>A
>27.45 oz of lead
>>30556597
Obviously the worst kind of bear.
Youll probably kill yourself shooting it.
>>30556793
Dear god.
Worst thing I've ever shot was a 45-70 line thrower with a, like, 1 lbs brass projectile. That about fucked my shoulder off my body.
27.45 oz lead...
I want my tombstone to read "Holy shit, the son of a bitch actually tried to fire it"
>>30556793
I'm giggling uncontrollably at the thought of shooting something with that.
Also to OP, I say you go for it. Partly because you're gonna do it regardless because you're on this board and I fucking know you want to do it for the laughs. Secondly because I need to see photos of the aftermath.
>>30556582
Really sneaky bait bruh
>>30556643
So what does one shoot with an A Gauge?
What does the gun look like?
>>30556981
Punt gun maybe? Or maybe industrial cleaning when the 4 gauge doesn't cut it.
For reference, the KS-23, with 23 mm shells, is a 4 gauge shotgun
>>30556999
>made from fucky anti-aircraft gun barrels
>cut it down to size
>lol pocket cannon
the russians really don't know how to throw anything out do they? props
>>30556981
>>30556841
>>30556793
>>30556643
There's a size bigger: AA
4 inch bore diameter, 219.6 oz shot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(bore_diameter)
How badly do you want your shit fucked famlamacon?
>>30556582
>a slug is just going to wound it
>>30556643
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(bore_diameter)#Conversion_guide
>Boar gauges:
>A: 50.80 2.000 778.19 27.45 12,010
>> 0.5* 53.45 2.103 907.18 32.000 14,000
>>>0.25* 67.34 2.651 1814.36 64.000 28,000
>>>>>>> A½* 76.20 3.000 2626.39 92.64 40,530
>>>>>greentext>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA* 101.60 4.000 6225.52 219.6 96,080
AHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK?
THAT'S NOT A PUNT GUN YOU FAGGOTS THAT IS AN ARTILLERY PIECE ON YOUR GOD DAMN SHOULDER. YOU HUNT PLANETS WITH THAT SHIT, 00 GAUGE SHOOT THAT SHIT IN ORBIT FOR GG THAT HEMISPHERE. WHO THE FUCK THOUGH THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO HUNT? SPECIES?. THAT GUN WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AT NIGHT AND FUCK YOUR BITCH SHE WILL CUM THINKING ABOUT IT ON HER DEATH BED.
>>30556999
>huh what the fuck is the KS-23
WHAT THE FUCK RUSSIA
>>30557103
THE AA GUAGE IS 13.735 POUNDS OF FUCKING LEAD
>>30557103
AA* 6225.52 g
6,2 fucking kilograms of lead.
Aaaayyyy Lmao
>>30557114
I CAME HERE TO FIND OUT WEATHER OR NOT TO BUY A MOSIN AS MY FIRST RIFLE AND I GET THIS SHIT. I'M SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
>>30557113
You see Ivan,
When you shoot prisoner with KS-23, prisoner becomes example,
An example for the future generations.
>>30556597
>2 gauge.
Look at how small it is, that is just going to piss it off.
>>30556999
Looking at the ammo on wikipedia:
"Volna-R" («Boлнa-P»): cartridge with less-lethal rubber bullet
"Strela-3" («Cтpeлa-3»): cartridge with less-lethal plastic bullet
>less-lethal
yeah fucking doubt it
seriously though should I get a mosin? are they fun/ worth?
>>30556597
Panzer polar bears with reinforced titanium skeleton riding a giant diamond fur moose who can shoot lasers out of its horn points.
also they live in a active volcano crater with filled with poison super spiders on steroid
>>30557142
how poor are you and how much do you enjoy milsurp/slavshit?
>>30557173
not all that poor, but pretty much don't want to spend that much.
Any RIFLE that is cheap, reliable, cheap, accurate, doesn't cost that much money and also is cheap will do. but nothing under .30-06 because im not a faggot.
>>30557190
I GUESS .223 can come to.
>>30557190
also something fun
>>30556582
>le noble savage maymay
>>30557190
it used to be a no brainer, but ammo prices are on the rise and you can't get one for under 200 bucks nowadays
>>30557142
The basic bitch nugget hasn't been worthwhile for a long time, they got popular and then they got overpriced and it didn't help that tons of milsurp in general dried up after Sandy Hook. Instead of spending $200 on a basic nugget you may as well step up to an M39 for $350, sometimes less if you're willing to accept an ugly one. However, once you get to that price point you could also just get a new production gun with a basic scope that'll perform similarly and probably have a better trigger.
>>30557137
Less lethal for operator
>>30556520
BOYS WHAT IN THE FUCK
>>30556520
>Need a reason not to hunt bears with a 2 gauge slug.
Because pic related only comes in 12Ga and 20Ga and the world desperately needs more information on its effectiveness.
Shotgun rounds regardless of size just make Bears stronger
>>30557190
Mosin's aren't as worth it as they used to be. If you can find one under $200 or preferably $150, then it's a fun rifle. Otherwise, you can find starter ARs for around $500. You can also find decent bolt actions for around $300, but I don't know which ones.
>>30557221
For $200 you can get yourself a nice yugo/turk/chilean mauser which are all better guns than a mosin.
>>30557219
>>30557221
>>30557249
>>30557262
thanks for the advice. I might be going to a gun show in a few days so I'll definitely be on the lookout for something under 200$. But I live in cuckafornia so that is going to be interesting. Pray for a supreme court repeal of all (f/g)un laws passed in the past century anons. I want my browning .50cal and I want my in & out goddamnit.
>>30557113
oh god its fucking beautiful
>>30557272
seriously tho, If I had the money I would buy an AR-15. literally just a matter of time till they ban them in cali.
>>30557075
13,725 pound can someone post a shell for that
>>30557142
It's definitely fun for sure.
Worth it? eh, depends. If you ever manage to find a cheap crate of ammo (less than 200 bux for 880 rounds) and a gun for under 200, I'd say get one.
There's something magical about being able to punch through half an inch of steel plate on the cheap.
Other than that there are better options
>>30556563
But that'd require someone to be Canadian; in that case I'd rather be eaten by a grizzly.
>>30557401
Why not go with a Mini14 and not have to worry about muh salty features? The post-2005 ones are pretty nice and AFAIK certain models are pretty much California-proof. Ruger's Mini series rifles are a little overpriced and have proprietary magazines, but they might be your best option for an unfucked sporting rifle.
I'm being serious when I tell you to avoid the older models, they truly do suck. Never buy a Mini14 with a serial number that doesn't have the 58X prefix, as in 580-00001, 581-48753, etc.
>>30557552
Ever since I was a child and watching the A-Team I have a hardon for Mini 14s in stainless steel/chrome...
>>30556520
Killing anything with that is literally just rude
>>30557621
>killing Evil
>rude
>>30556520
Can you carry a cannon on your back? Do you have a licence for said cannon?
>>30557643
>Bears
>Evil
>>30557103
>>30557114
>>30557117
So, AA stands for Anti-Aircraft?
I bet oversized shot shells would do wonders against helicopters.
>>30557262
>yugo/turk/chilean mauser which are all better guns than a mosin
Actually no, you'll get an action that is weaker than that of a mosin and a bolt that is easy to fuck up when dismantling and a nightmare to fix.
Get the Mosin.
>>30557732
they're essential naval gun 10 cm grapeshot shells
>>30557559
Then you have good taste.
>>30556563
Do it. Film it. Post it. Hell, travel to africa and try it on elephants as well. I want to see the results. No animal is safe from my desire to witness this.
>>30556563
>2 gauge technical
I WANT TO SEE IT
Are you self building the gun? Because I need something like this in my life
>>30556520
Finding a 2 bore rifle for less than the price of a car will be the real challenge
>>30557114
>13.735 POUNDS
If that was a baby, no human woman could survive giving birth to it.
>>30556543
The fuck it doesn't. I'm a beautiful transgender memale (new gender, just came on the market) and I NEEDS my beautiful, sassy memale shoulder reconstruction surgery.
LGBTWTFBBQEIEIO POWER!!!
>>30557740
>fucking up a mauser action
Seriously, how the fuck would you do that?
The bolt is a solid piece of milled steel. The mauser is vastly superior to the mosin in ease of use, there is literary nothing that you can fuck up.
>>30557137
I believe it's suppose to be less-lethal at 100 yards or some such. I recall reading somewhere that it has to be used at a distance since at 50 yards it's death but from 100 or farther you just cripple them.
To death.
>>30557823
That's just because they're a woman.
>>30557732
That sort of thing exists for tank guns. No idea if it is in use outside of evaluation ranges, though.
>>30557872
Boys always make the best girls
>>30557823
Depends on if you're talking about a 14lbs baby or a 14lbs chunk of lead. That'd be roughly 2 of these ingots, which doesn't seem unreasonable as far as volume is concerned.
Then again I have no way to hold these chunks of lead up to a baby, I doubt I can go down to the hospital and ask to do so.
>>30557883
Israelians shot some from their Merkava's 120mm during the 2008 Gaza suppression campaign iirc
>>30557732
No, the AA is part of a different system where B is one inch and A is two. AA is thus a four inch caliber gun.
>>30557137
>>30557859
IIRC there are different loadings for use at different ranges, one for less than 30 meters and one for longer ranges.
>>30557235
a-are those m855 tips?
>>30556994
Those mounted kiln cleaning shotguns fascinate the hell out of me. I just love that some dude at one point thought about cleaning slag, and just said "well why don't we just blast the shit out of it?"
>>30556661
>The bear isn't giving shit. OP is taking his existence and killing all the birds in the area with the concussive force left by the blast that ripped that bear's existence out of the past, present, and future..
Devil trips post is top kek
>>30557272
MAS 36 or M1917 is a great option as wellll
>>30558302
those aren't trips newfriend :^)
>>30557075
>219.6oz
So basically for hunting large boats and pick up trucks?
>>30557849
>Seriously, how the fuck would you do that?
it's just his poorfag delusion. That should show you the degree of his poverty considering how cheap Mausers are.
Proper Mausers can handle a monstrous amount of chamber pressure.
>>30558342
The thing about lead is it'll just squash up against harder metal. Not saying a 4-bore won't blow the fuck out of a truck or anything but it's going to get weird.
>>30557142
Audrey Hepburn is still my favorite woman
>>30556520
The included pictograph is indicative of my mental state at the time whereupon I perused your original post.
>>30558521
Well yeah, lead is a soft metal, but I imagine that shot and size would produce just retarded levels of force. I mean even if you launched an orange at 100 mph at a car door, the orange would smash to hell, obviously, but the car door would still be fucked.
>>30557823
>The record for the heaviest, healthy baby in the world was a boy born in Italy in 1955, who weighed 22lb 8oz
There's no way it wasn't a c-section though.
>>30556643
.410 is not a gauge, and you forgot 28 and 16 gauges.
>>30556520
>2 gauge slug
Why not try it with buckshot instead? It'll still kill things dead, but you'll probably require less shoulder surgery
Jeez though, why not design a whole new gun around this?
>>30556520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wssCnvuVbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wssCnvuVbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wssCnvuVbU
IT'S LIKE A FUCKING CANNON
HE HAD THAT SHIT STRAPPED DOWN BECAUSE IF HE DIDN'T IT WOULD'VE BROKE FREE AND FUCKED HIS WIFE AND BEEN THE COOL NEW DAD TO HIS KIDS
>>30557732
I keep telling you, Channel 12's "Eye In The Sky" guy doesn't actually *cause* the traffic jams.
Quit trying to shoot him down.
On the topic of shotguns, this came up in the suggestions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhceWZiYPQ
I had to youtube a 2 gauge
https://youtu.be/4wssCnvuVbU
Was not dissapointed
>>30559492
It's literally a fucking cannon
Why don't they just call it a cannon
>2 inch bore
I need one of these so I can shove a hardened turd down the bore and fire it at my fucking neighbors. Fuck those assholes
>>30557137
"Barricade" («Бappикaдa»): cartridge with solid steel projectile able to destroy the engine block of a car at up to 100 meters
"Zvezda" («Звeздa»): flash-bang round
>>30557137
It says "less-lethal", not "less-than-lethal".
>>30559867
how can something be "a little less lethal"
lethal implies death
Are you saying that you can be deader than dead? or only a little bit dead?
red pill me anon
>>30559910
Lethal is intended to kill, less lethal is not intended to kill but that doesn't mean it can't. Rubber bullets are a good example of this, they generally won't kill people but it's well within their capabilities to do so.
>>30556563
>I have a rolling cart built for it
Pics.
>You will never shoot dragons breath from a 2 gauge shotgun
Why live?
>>30557117
More like 6,2 kilograms of dead.
>>30556563
>>30560120
Cart Pics Plz
>>30556803
kek
is this what you'll be hunting with OP?
>>30557272
Listen, if it's babby's first rifle, get a mosin or something similar. You actually have to TRY to break that bitch. Once you get experience handling it, get a newr rifle that's better in literally every way.
>>30557155
Is that the new rob zombie album?
fuck punt guns
Shoulder fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXoa5zNn0TU
>>30557732
>what is flak ammunition
You are damn right. They make artillery with smaller barrels than that
>>30560959
They handled that better than Ian did, or maybe they self loaded less powder or it had less pressure than Ian's 4 bore cartridge?
>>30557235
where buy
>>30556643
>>30556793
>A
>27.45 oz of lead
Good Lord
>>30556563
Pics or bullshit
>>30557401
You mean the start of next year?
>>30557134
>>30557190
saw a ruger american in 3006 at mu lgs for 300. if youre poor, however, consider the cost of ammo and get a 308
>tfw there is a civilian version of yhe KS-23 legal for Russians to own
>can't own it in the USA because of Clinton import bans
Fuck everything
>>30557621
Compared to what?
>>30559271
>heaviest
>healthiest
>>30564072
He didn't say healthiest baby, he said a healthy massive fucking baby.
>>30556520
>wrists
>shoulders
>elbows
>and toes
Bring a friend to play bi pod for your punt gun.
>>30556520
They'd probably like for the bear corpse to be in large chunks rather than a fine mist.
>>30557075
That's not a shotgun, that's smoothbore artillery.
>>30557823
Horseshit. Have a great-great-grandmother who gave birth to 15lb TWINS. No c-section either, pushed those two cannonballs for babies out her cunt back in the 1800s. Hespect.
I own a 1" bore naval cannon replica (antique)
I load that fucker up with black powder and it launches itself back about 3'. It weighs well over 140lbs.
No way in fuck would I put a 2" bore against my shoulder. Not happening
>>30558342
>I swear, officer, I lost my boats in a tragic gunning accident
>>30564144
I.... I don't want to play that game
Alright /k/, time for a drink.
>ammo for relevancy
>>30558342
I wonder if you need different hunting licenses for different brands of truck and boat. Do you need to avoid killing undersized or young boats?
If you were to build a recoiless rifle style shoulder mounted punt gun; would that be considered a DD? would it be legal to hunt with?
>>30557213
>Indians BTFO
>>30556981
Punt guns were usually custom-designed and so varied widely, but could have bore diameters exceeding 2 inches (51 mm) and fire over a pound (≈ 0.45 kg) of shot at a time.[1] A single shot could kill over 50 Waterfowl resting on the water's surface. They were too big to hold and the recoil so large that they were mounted directly on the punts used for hunting, hence their name. Hunters would maneuver their punts quietly into line and range of the flock using poles or oars to avoid startling them. Generally the gun was fixed to the punt; thus the hunter would maneuver the entire boat in order to aim the gun. The guns were sufficiently powerful, and the punts themselves sufficiently small, that firing the gun often propelled the punt backwards several inches or more. To improve efficiency, hunters could work in fleets of up to around ten punts.
>MFW
>AA gauge
somebody have pics of this?
>>30556520
Do your shells look like that?
What monster do you shoot them out of?
>>30556597
Gorps.
