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Ahhhhh SHHHHHEEEEEEEEIIIITT
lETS MAKE CALIFORNIA MEXICO AGAIN AND LETS START WITH GUN LAWS.
>>30471069
>no criminal history
>veteran
>public servant 6+ years
>oath taker
Thanks to governor Moonbeam, I will now be a criminal on Jan 1, 2017 if I do not turn in or destroy my standard capacity magazines.
>>30471115
Why the fuck do you live in Soviet Kalifornistan, then? None of these developments has come as a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention to politics in the DPRK.
Get out of KKKalifornia before they build a Berlin Wall at the border to keep taxpayers from leaving.
>>30471069
>libcucks say that they don't want to take our guns and our rights to defend ourselves...
>give amnesty laws to criminals
>take away our rights to defend ourselves
>pass intrusive gun laws
I never said this before and can't believe I am in the position to say this but we need to vote for Trump
>>30471134
I have family to take care of and other obligations. Trust me, if I didn't have anchors, I would've left a long time ago.
>>30471115
Is this actually going to happen like for real
Does this new law ban 30round mags pinned to 10 rounds? (like magpul)?
>>30471179
It was signed into law today. Also, a law banning all rifles with bullet buttons was passed.
>>30471115
Pay some wetback to break into your car and jimmy shit up, take all the weapons that the kalifornistan government is trying to ban, and them BURY it.
Hundreds of thousands of Californians soon will practically be unable to buy ammo for their guns. Not everyone has only 9mm and 12ga guns. If you have to drive hundreds of miles to get ammo, your rights have been violated.
>>30471200
Good thing I didn't sound 2 grand on a springfield M1A then like I wanted
This has to be struck down in court or something, I can't believe this will actually go into effect
>>30471137
>Voting for Trump
>In California
Sorry buddy, CA's winner take all electoral system means you're voting for Hillary whether you like it or not. May as well stay home and jack off on election day, better use of your time.
>>30471241
Not them but I am moving to Arizona or something now.
calexit
>>30471239
You can still buy bullet button rifles until Jan 1, 2017. No confiscation for the rifles.
Turn in / destroy for all magazines over 10rd.
>>30471259
Well I mean if only a part of our rights are totally fucking abolished then that's okay
>>30471259
Time to buy a shit ton of 10 round .50Beowulf mags for the .50Beowulf upper that I totally own.
http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Magazines-10-Round_50_Beowulf_Magazine.html
>>30471259
How can they possibly enforce that?
Is this illegal now?
>>30471302
Don't think for a second I'm taking an apologist stance on this bullshit. I'm just stating the facts.
>>30471259
>no confiscation
>yet
What do you think registration is for, anon?
>>30471321
Each magazine over 10rd you get caught with is a felony count. That's how.
>>30471336
You think I don't know? You think I like this shit?
better start buying ammo, boys.
>>30471339
>they are just 10 round .50 beowulf mags
>>30471383
brb chambering my AR-15 & AK-47 to .50.
...
..
.
Also, CA has a ban on all .50 BMG, if you weren't already aware.
Hey guys look at my new assault 10-22.
>>30471225
Seriously, this means it's IMPOSSIBLE to buy any sort of weird caliber bullet after this law goes into effect. Anyone with surplus guns is fucked. But I guess that really cuts down on all those fucking drive-by mosinnings, right?
>>30471450
WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA NOW GET IN PRISON
>>30471115
You can register your AR lower along with 5 grandfathered magazines.
>>30471468
>AWWWWWWW SHIIIIIEEEEEEEET YOU GONE AND DUN IT NOW WHITE BOI
>MAD MINUTE NIGGA, MAD MINUTE, MAD MUTHAFUCKIN MINUTE!
>>30471516
>WORK DAT BOLT JAYKWON!
>EY NIGGA, I NEEDZ ANUTHA CLIP!
>>30471420
ya bmg, that doesnt include beowulf or .510 dtc
(b) As used in subdivision (a) of Section 30305 and in Section 30306, “ammunition” includes, but is not limited to, any bullet, cartridge, magazine, clip, speed loader, autoloader, or projectile capable of being fired from a firearm with a deadly consequence. “Ammunition” does not include blanks.
>Bullets are now ammunition
>Cartridges are now ammunition
>magazines are now ammunition
So you guys ready to seat your ammunition into an ammunition and load the ammunition into your ammunition to put it in your gun?
>>30471503
>5 grandfathered magazines.
Where does it say this?
>>30471567
so now iti s 9 rounds + mag since the mag also counts as ammo?
nice back door that makes even 10 round mags illegal.
>>30471592
Holy shit I didn't even think of that.
That is impressively underhanded, I have to give them credit for that.
Too bad commiefornia is a shithole and not even worth liberating.
They did this to themselves, fuck em
>>30471115
Then be a criminal.
CUT MY RECIVER INTO PIECES
HERE COMES THE ATF
>>30471656
>They did this to themselves
Oh Good, the pea brain patrol has arrived. In the future could you please refrain from commenting on subjects you know nothing about?
>>30471675
I'm sorry, faggot, but correct me if I'm wrong - were the elected officials in california not elected...by the people....of california?
Kill yourself you incomprehensible fucking moron
>>30471656
>When they came for the Californians' guns I said nothing because I was not a Californian
>>30471675
Spotted the cali cuck.
>>30471706
>I'm sorry, faggot, but correct me if I'm wrong - were the elected officials in california not elected...by the people....of california?
>implying all people votes for them
>implying the 49% of the population that like guns weren't outvoted by the 51% of the population that are crazy liberals
>>30471567
>>30471592
>>30471627
Is that in the bill for magazine capacity restrictions or ammunition background checks? I think it's the later in which case it might not be relevant to the magazine capacity restrictions.
>>30471706
The population of Calfornia is 37 million, of that 37 milion, about a third are gun owners, at best. Add to that that the voting districts are gerrymandered to provide the left with an uncontestable supermajority.
>>30471706
>were the elected officials in california not elected...by the people....of california?
What do you think they let in the illegals for?
>>30471725
>they
you mean the state government you voted for?
my "they" does no such thing.
You also going to go defend African country #52? They banned guns there too.
Apparently we are all responsible for the actions of local governments we have no part of now.
>>30471753
>of that 37 milion, about a third are gun owners
Sounds like you democratically lost.
I bet you also think the UK cucks that want stay and cry about "it was only 52%" are in the right as well.
>>30471742
>outvoted by the 51% of the population
So in short.....yes...they were elected by the majority of californians
My point stands then, dipshit.
>>30471784
ISIS pls get a nuke and detonate it in San Francisco or Los Angeles. Only then will California be reclaimed.
>>30471784
>being okay with tyranny of the majority
Being the majority sure is great, until you aren't. It happened to us, it can happen to you too. But hey, good job letting the dems divide and conquer us one by one. Continue fostering that divisiveness and making their eventual victory that much easier.
>>30471706
>believing that elections in the US are fair and just
i thought you guys talked about having the red pill around here
>>30471503
Confiscation means no grandfathering dummy. What a registered assault weapon means is still to be decided but it will probably mean pistol grip, flash hider and a removable magazine which may or may not allow a standard magazine release. Either way this is not something you want to do as the wording for registration makes it seem like it's just a first step towards confiscation.
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MY FUCKING NIGHTMARES ARE COMING TRUE FUCKING FUCK
>>30471666
Rustification, no cleaning.
check em
You know what this means, kids
>SKSes
>red flags
commie revolution is the only way to stop this tyranny
>>30471759
>you mean the state government you voted for?
I didn't vote for any of these statist fucks you ignorant nigger. They're shitting on your constitution, the one all fifty states agreed to abide by, are you seriously okay with that? We are Americans just as much as you are, we deserve the same rights and privileges.
>>30471759
>you mean the state government you voted for?
I did not.
http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/26/california-refuses-to-admit-its-voter-fraud-problem/
>>30471239
M1A's and cucked ARs are still good as they are not considered assault weapons.
>>30471861
See here:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
Says exactly what is and isn't an AW under AB1135.
If you are familiar with the feature/featureless flowchart, this shouldn't be anything new. Key point is that they changed the definition of fixed mag to not simply be "tool-required" rather requiring one to disassemble the action, hence why BBs no longer work.
>>30471567
>>30471656
No we didn't and now we're moving to your state
>>30471862
It's always darkest before the Don. Once he wins he'll appoint two conservative judges and all of Cali's gun laws will be deemed unconstitutional. If Sacramento fails to comply the Marines will be sent in.
>>30471984
I hope so anon
I truly do
but my faith is so weak
>>30471984
>implying Trump will actually do anything
he's a plutocrat, he will only enforce the plutocracy along with some minor protectionism in order to make his supporters feel safe from immigration and other external threats
Trump ain't gonna save shit
>>30471258
We're full, fuck off
>>30471984
>It's always darkest before the Don
>>30472004
>$0.02 have been deposited to your account
>>30471258
You better beware friendo. Anon here >>30472015 says he doesn't want you in his state
>>30472055
>implying I'm CTR
people's revolution is the only possible solution for our situation
>>30472004
>implying that you shouldn't vote for him anyway because hes our last hope
how can you justify not voting for him if you like your gun rights?
Clinton will draft AWB 2.0 with no sunset if she wins and her lib supreme court will uphold it.
IF CLINTON WINS WE GET FUCKED YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
VOTING FOR A THIRD PARTY HELPS HER
IF YOU LIKE NOT BEING UNDER THE BOOT OF GOVERNMENT THAN FUCKING VOTE FOR THE LEAST OF THE FUCKING EVILS
YOU ARE FUCKING DELUDED IF YOU THINK HILLARY WONT MAKE FEDERAL LAWS JUST LIKE CALIFORNIA
>>30472092
>lesser of two evils talk from both sides
oy vey
>>30471150
>Sister got knocked up, then married, then divorced
>Can't leave because dad is a fucktard their custody arrangement is fucktarded
>Mother won't leave because of my nephew
>Gun-loving, fellow vet, anti-big government stepdad who is probably 5-10 years away from a wheelchair is stuck because of my mom
I know that feel. I stick around to help him with the cars and around the house, and because my nephew is based.
The temptation is building, though...
>>30472106
First of all thats not an argument, second of all second of all
>THE JOOOS
fuck of /pol/ you fucking nigger, Trumps the only hope we got for gun rights, and its better than the chances we have with hillary, if you deny this, you are literally retard
>>30472114
Why is 5-10 years from a wheelchair?
>>30472137
I think both options are terrible and I'm likely to end up hoping for Trump purely because he's slightly more likely to stop economic damage because he doesn't want to get ordered around
Gun rights mean nothing when our economy crashes once every 8 years
>implying i'm /pol/ though
>>30472153
He works himself too damned hard, and his joints are falling apart. He'd probably be fine if he took care of himself, but he never will.
>>30472199
Well if you're in Cali tell him to get a medical card and start some yoga. My back was all fucked from the Marines and the combo of weed and yoga helped me a shit ton.
>>30471069
Ay Yi Yi
>>30472232
He's too damned old to listen. I caught that motherfucker out in the backyard trying to weedwack 2 days after knee surgery, weedwacker in one hand, crutch in the other. I had to chase him inside before he'd even let me do it for him.
He's already got 100% disability from the VA, he just doesn't want to change.
>>30471069
Give me the rundown...what passed...?
>>30472260
Specifically:
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_30080331/list-gun-bills-signed-vetoed-by-gov-jerry
>>30472249
Shit man that sucks
>>30472249
He sounds like a fucking badass man
>>30472314
Yeah, it's why I don't want to leave. I know if I don't babysit his ass, he'll work himself into a grave.
>>30472330
He's one of the coolest motherfuckers I know. He tried to smuggle an AK back from Iraq and has a bunch of old IA helmets hung up in the garage.
>>30472307
Well, at least he vetoed the bill allowing your peers to get your guns taken...take some consolation in that you poor Sods...
but the rest of it...
>mf If I was living in Cali.
>>30471225
>>30471468
>Hundreds of thousands of Californians soon will practically be unable to buy ammo for their guns. Not everyone has only 9mm and 12ga guns. If you have to drive hundreds of miles to get ammo, your rights have been violated.
>Seriously, this means it's IMPOSSIBLE to buy any sort of weird caliber bullet after this law goes into effect. Anyone with surplus guns is fucked. But I guess that really cuts down on all those fucking drive-by mosinnings, right?
SUE
THE
STATE
Use the same arguments for abortion that liberals use.
Or just notify the fucktarded retards at the NRA/SAF/GOA about this manner of argument.
>>30472371
Be glad you're not here then. you can feel the impending doom coming.
>>30471503
It literally doesnt say this at all. You can buy bullet button ARs until Jan 1st 2017. You can have 30 round mags until Jan 1st 2017. On Jan 1st 2017 you neither buy ARs, bullet button or otherwise, and your 30 round mags are banned/restricted to 10 rounds. Also the background check for ammo purchases was passed. You hve until 2018 to complete and register 80% lowers with bullet button configuration.
OH SHIT WE NEED TO BAN """ASSAULT WEAPONS""" EVEN HARDER
and this was just the shit done under "moderate" brown. california is totally fucked (gun-wise, and everythingwise) when newsom comes to power
>>30472410
Do people have to register their bullet button ARs? Got the bill number and bill language if they have to?
>>30472432
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
>>30472423
Moderate nowadays just means they tow the party line real fucking hard, it doesn't mean they actually try and work with the other side. Clinton's a fucking moderate, for fuck's sake.
Here's hoping that maybe some new blood that isn't retarded about guns can get into politics.
>>30472432
yes you have to register your AW feature ARs, since a bullet button no longer satisfies the exemption. the law now includes fixed magazines that take a tool to remove, and treats them like detachable magazines. you have until Jan 1 2018 to register, but you must have possessed the rifle by Dec 31, 2016 (the end of this year) to be eligible to register it.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
>>30472393
Yep. im in Utah and everything is pretty damn gud here atm. Only some minor ammunition Regulations to prevent Wildfires.
>Tracer, HE & Incendiary ammunition banned from shooting anywhere except military designated Firing ranges. Can still own this ammo, but cant use.
>Steel core, jacketed, or tipped ammunition banned from shooting outdoors during the months of... July and august? Can use indoors still. assuming the range allows it.
Other than those two things everything is good. Nothing in Utah is outright banned.
Even with knives, Switchblades and Balisongs are perfectly legal to own and carry, but if its a "weapon" it must be visible unless you have a CC license.
Few years ago we did have some issues with police Harassing Open carriers...Citing them with "Causing a disturbance: or something similar but that was struck down.
Ah, Some interesting regulation for hunting or OCing rifles or the like in the wild... Can ONLY hunt with expanding ammunition and the weapon must be kept in a state where it is not able to fire immediately (Nothing in the chamber, or in the case of nugget, Safety on could be allowed)
>>30472454
This is the worst part about modern US politics, there's this weird doublespeak with all the typical adjectives, where the words have their "real", classic meaning, and the words have their "modern", hyperbolic meaning.
You can't even discuss the issues without wasting 20 minutes figuring out a common definition to use for "liberal", "conservative", "moderate", and all the rest.
>>30472432
Also to all the people asking, no one knows yet what the plans or specifics are, the faggots left those details out of the law and gave the power to the DOJ etc to have to figure that out still
>>30472494
That's how they avoid real discussion. Just get people to argue about definitions of words and nobody will ever be able to discuss their real worries.
>>30472432
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/robert-farago/breaking-california-governor-brown-signs-vetoes-gun-control-bills/
This has all the bills hotlinked. To answer your question, no, not that ive read.
>>30472033
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this.
>>30472529
well then you havent read. the law specifically does away with the legality of a bullet button on a centerfire rifle with pistol grip, flash hider, etc. read again or risk becoming a felon
>>30472529
>This bill would revise this definition of “assault weapon” to mean a semiautomatic centerfire rifle, rifle or a semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of those specified attributes. The bill would also define “fixed magazine” to mean an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.
on a bullet button rifle, you can remove your magazine without disassembling the action. this law was made specifically to outlaw the bullet button 'loophole' .
>>30472564
yea.....after Jan 1st 2017. Any before that is not banned. It's written right there in SB 880. Try reading, hotshot
also, as i read the law, it looks like the old set screw lock is still acceptable. so you have to break your gun open and top load your magazine every 10 rounds at the range. fucking pain in the ass and a good way to wear out your upper/lower mounting pin holes
>>30472628
Better to get used to your good ol' SKS or wait for somebody to make a toploading AR upper. That'd be a fucking hoot, I'll tell you what.
>>30472618
what the fuck are you going on about faggot? i answered his question exactly as he asked, i'm the only one in this thread providing decent information.
you are wrong. shut the fuck up. if you own a bullet button AR15/AK rifle before Jan 1 2017, you qualify to register it legally as a registered assault weapon. sales of bullet button rifles after Jan 1 2017 will be banned, because the bullet button as currently designed will become illegal.
>>30472642
we already had top loading ARs in california before the bullet button got invented. Look up Fab-10 lowers, thats what we are going back to faggots.
why must you do these things to us california
>>30472675
maybe i will just make my own thread since there seems to be a lot of fucking confusing. i have been in the AR15 game in california since before the first assault weapon ban. all you faggot 19 year olds cant read for fucking shit because you grew up playing happy birds all day instead of reading books
>>30472687
this is just a stepping stone, thats next.
>>30472484
I'd much rather deal with that then outright not being able to own my already cucked gun. But all us Califags will hold out as long as we can.
You know, I'm pretty sure this sort of scenario is why the 2nd Amendment was written in the first place.
Just putting that out there.
>>30471137
Trump can't do a goddamned thing about California guns laws.
>>30472660
>must register
cite it then bitch, if not then shut your fucking mouth
BB Reloaded just announced, pretty similar to the already existing ARmaglock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedaFH6pC1o
>>30471984
>It's always darkest before the Don
>>30472707
exactly
Am I okay, lads?
>>30472707
Youre exactly right. And what's sad about all this is allll those fucking molon labia stickers, gadston flags, etc etc fucks out there arent doing shit. They are just crying like bitches and sitting back and taking it. ll that "cold dead hands" talk is and always was bullshit smoke. If a whole state wont fight back, neither will the rest of the country if hillary gets in and gets her way.
Fellow Cuckifornians: How many of you are actually going to go through with "registering" your AR? You'll need to disclose all of your personal information and pay the DOJ a fee. Why should you do this?
>>30472782
They already know all of my personal information and fees are no new thing to anyone who buys a gun legally, here.
$15 here, $25 there.
It is what it is.
I'm a public servant, I can't afford to be no criminal.
>>30472782
>How many of you are actually going to go through with "registering" your AR?
IF you bought an AR in the past two years, the long gun registry already knows you have an AR.
They just want you to register it now as a RAW, from 2017 to 2018.
>>30472809
All the LEOs I've talked to in my county will refuse to enforce the unenforceable. They've got enough shit on their plate to go fucking with ordinary people.
The only way around this is mass disobedience, combined with the unenforceablility of this shit.
>>30472719
>>30472719
>>30472719
>>30472719
>>30472719
jesus fucking christ you ignorant cunt and petulant little bitch. ive cited it multiple times in this thread, and it's available public knowledge. fucking READ you stupid piece of shit.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
>This bill would require that any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined, and including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,
>This bill would require that any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined, and including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, register the firearm with the Department of Justice before January 1, 2018,
can you fucking read yet, or do you need a cite on what the english alphabet is? maybe lay off the dope every once in a while
I move to Utah in two weeks after living in California my whole life. I dodged a fucking bullet with this one. Can't wait to chuck my bullet button back into California.
Sorry fellow Californistani /k/ommandos, but the idea of greener pastures is just too enticing.
>>30472847
Next time don't cite plz, I'd rather someone as fucktarded as him be in jail instead of out in society with the ability to possess weapons
>>30472837
Local LEOs can't do shit. The CADOJ literally already knows if you have a semiauto center rifle if you bought one in the past two years.
>>30472347
>tried to smuggle AK
Story tiem?
>>30472248
remove the sheath from that dog, Cali doesn't have its' balls let alone a dick anymore
>>30472894
He stuck it in a Conex, because it was '04 and people weren't paying attention to shit as closely.
Some fucktard in supply found out, broke in, and snagged a bunch of his war troph- I mean memorabilia.
>>30472865
TEACH YOUR FAMILY TO VOTE REPUBLICAN
There are many Californians "escaping" Democrat controlled California, but then they bring asshole Democrat family members with them.
If you bring Dem baggage, or, some of those fucktards that don't prioritize guns over other social issues, fuck off back to CA.
>>30472892
still doesnt excuse the fact that something which is completely constitutional and lawful to own will get you a tack on charge for something completely unrelated should you ever get in trouble (say like a speeding ticket, dui, noise complaint, accidental police raid, etc)
>>30472906
so it wasnt confiscated, but stolen by another service guy who then brought home the loot?
>>30471115
>become criminal
>get a good lawyer
>they try to take you away
>go to court
>rape them in the ass with the "I defended your ability to defend yourself and now I can't defend myself how I choose?" defense
>>30472936
Pretty much.
>>30472944
>"rape them in the ass defense" = you get off with probation instead of doing hard time
>you still have to do community service and pick up trash and check in with a PO
>you still prohibited gun owner now
>$80,000 later in legal fees
>wew lad, at least i didnt have to go to jail
>>30472909
I'm doing it alone broski.
So chillax.
>>30472964
that prick, did he know who did it? surprised he didnt rat him out just for being such a faggot
>>30471186
I don't believe so.
>>30471259
Sure you can buy them, but once the law goes into effect that have to be registered or else you're in possession of an unregistered assault rifle and face felony charges.
>>30471308
You own a .50 in California? Pretty sure that needs to be registered.
>>30471336
Bingo.
How can the state of California have stricter gun control than the federal laws? I hope I haven't spoke to soon.
>>30471503
Bullshit. I read the law and don't see any of that.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1446
>>30471580
It doesn't.
I tried my hand at reading comprehension for all of you:
Six new laws infringing upon the natural right of self defense and self determination were signed into effect today. The once great state of California has taken yet another step in the direction of an Orwellian authoritarian government. If a total monopoly on the means of coercive force is held by the state, then it is impossible for the state to exists by the true consent of the governed.
It should be considered that since the 90's firearms homicides have been steadily declining in this country. When our government passes laws, it is important that we ask why, as opposed to asking why not. There is obviously a gun control agenda, and it is increasingly dubious as to whether its primary concern is the safety and lives of citizens, or the disarmament and political disenfranchisement of the population.
>>30472995
Nah, he has no idea. They were unattended for a pretty long period of time under guard by another unit.
>>30472847
dope don't make you retarded
being retarded makes you retarded
>>30472868
>him be in jail instead of out in society with the ability to possess weapons
>ugh, fuck him for wanting to know if you have to register your assault weapon, he shouldn't have to know and have his freedom taken away
Please kill yourself you freedom-hating shit for brained retard
>>30473001
Senate Bill 1235 requires individuals to submit to a background check and be entered into a state database in order to purchase ammunition. Sellers of ammunition will be required to hold an ammunition vendor's license. All transfers of ammunition will be required to be recorded by the license holder with the purchaser's name, address, and phone number. This creates a statewide registry of citizens who have bought ammunition legally.
Senate Bill 1446 Is an outright ban on the possession of firearm magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds. There is no clause for grandfathering in magazines acquired before the ban. The law reads :
1) Remove the large-capacity magazine from the state.
(2) Prior to July 1, 2017, sell the large-capacity magazine to a licensed firearms dealer.
(3) Destroy the large-capacity magazine.
(4) Surrender the large-capacity magazine to a law enforcement agency for destruction.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1235
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1446
is the SKS the new hero california needs?
>>30473020
>Freedom hating
Oh god.
Go fuck yourself.
Senate Bill 880 and Assembly Bill 1135 expand the state's legal definition of "assault rifle" to include rifles with detachable magazines which are released by the actuation of a "bullet button". A "bullet button" is a specially designed magazine release which requires a small tool to actuate. This expansion bans the unregistered possession of rifles with such specially designed magazine releases. This expansion broadens the scope of the "assault rifle" registry to now include rifles which have devices specifically designed and installed to prevent the expedient reloading of magazines. It should be noted that rifles of all types kill fewer than 500 U.S. citizens each year, while Influenza kills on average 30,000 people annually.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
>>30473029
I don't think it's legal to buy those here.
>>30473001
the 50 BMG round was specifically banned by legislation. anything else that has 50 in the name or size is still legal and fine. (50 GI, 50 DTC, 50 Beo, etc)
>>30473043
>wanting someone to lose their freedom because they literally ask you to cite your shit
>"ugh can you like not call me a freedom hater"
You obviously don't belong here, MDA
Assembly Bill 1511 criminalizes the lending of a firearm to any individual other than immediate family. Loans are restricted to 30 days in duration and must be infrequent and without regularity. It should be noted that the state of California already bans private sales/transfers of firearms between individuals. All firearms transfers must go through a federally licensed dealer, and as such the vast majority of firearms of all types in California are recorded in a state database along with the personal information of the transferer and transferee. AB 1511 along with the previously instated ban on private sales ensures that the government knows who possesses which firearms at all times.
Assembly Bill 1695 codifies and criminalizes the false reporting of stolen firearms as particular class of misdemeanor which will preclude those convicted from legally purchasing firearms for 10 years after the conviction. It should be noted that precedent and current federal law only disbars citizens from legally purchasing firearms if the individual is a convicted felon.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1511
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1695
>>30473058
Yes, it is. Only certain SKS types are banned in CA.
>>30473001
>You own a .50 in California? Pretty sure that needs to be registered.
Only .50BMG is banned in CA. .50 Beowulf is pretty popular in CA.
>>30473020
fuck off, he was being an arrogant little prick, spouting off the wrong information and acting like he was right and i was wrong, then insulting me for being right. he's retarded, through and through.
>>30473020
why cant you just admit you were a little faggot hothead anon, we all know it was you and now you are samefagging yourself in defense pretending to be another anon like a total faggot
>>30473072
>>30473060
>Grasping at straws.
Either start protesting or move to another state.
>>30472696
Thanks for fucking our state up.
>moonbean went on vacation to europe right after he signed these.
Literally didn't want to be around Independence day decorations and had to report directly to soros.
Fuck.
>>30471069
I guess all those law breakers of the black persuasion will now have to register their "choppa" WASR's and various guns they surely obtained via legal means. I mean, it's the law now and they have to follow it.
>>30473028
>>30473028
>Senate Bill 1235 requires individuals to submit to a background check and be entered into a state database in order to purchase ammunition. Sellers of ammunition will be required to hold an ammunition vendor's license. All transfers of ammunition will be required to be recorded by the license holder with the purchaser's name, address, and phone number. This creates a statewide registry of citizens who have bought ammunition legally.
When does this shit take effect?
>>30472696
>AR15 game in California
Basically the special olympics.
I've said it once, I'll say it again. Sack up and either start protesting or leave the state.
>>30471225
Wait, did they ban unusual calibers? I only heard that they are now requiring background checks for ammo purchasers and licenses for ammo distributors.
>>30471308
The Canadian solution.
Well, it's about time.
Say goodbye to all the gang shootings and wackos, everybody.
These laws are gonna take care of all of that.
I can't wait to see the look on ese syko's face when he reads the paper and see's he's gonna have to go down to the nearest FFL/LEO and register his magazine and firearms.
>>30472726
Good luck if you have a double feed malfunction.
>>30472812
And then in 2020 they come take it after they pass the CA chillun safety act. Registration is always the first step to disarmament. As others have already pointed out, don't think they won't do it? Ask all the former SKS, SPAS12, and PSG1 owners if they won't do it. Mass non compliance is the only way we keep our "assault weapons".
>>30473116
Read the links I included in my post friend.
>>30473116
This is important. This determines if there'll be a huge ammo panic buy rush this year or the next.
When does the ammunition database and background check/permit law take effect?
>>30473143
THE GUNS ARE ALREADY FUCKING REGISTERED IF YOU BOUGHT ANY GUN IN THE PAST TWO FUCKING YEARS.
>>30473149
But it's legalese.
>>30473132
If you're local stores don't carry 7.7mm how are you going to buy it? Can't buy online anymore.
>>30473170
I'M NOT A NEWFAG TO GUNS AND HAVE OWN MINE FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS THUS THEY AREN'T REGISTERED.
>>30473178
That sucks major mega dick. Special ordering sucks dick in LGS too, because they only get what their distributors have.
>>30473072
What applications does .50beowulf have, anon? I know BMG is antimateriel and shit.
>>30473178
I guess this means I ain't gonna buy a 45-70 lever gun next year anymore.
banned from having an AR15 is not a threshold for me to leave the state anon, when i am making 6 figures at my job currently. def plan to retire in a different state though
also, to everyone else freaking out, there are still ways around the current laws to own an AR15 and not have it registered. they will just be even cucked/neutered further than a bullet button. it's back to top breaks for us.
http://franklin-armory.myshopify.com/products/franklin-armory-10-round-dfm
prince 50 set screw lock, etc.
>>30472726
I love how companies come up with work-arounds as fast as California shits out their illogical laws
>>30472892
>The CADOJ
Seriously fuck those guys, they are the worst kind of shitheads. My dad had one of those fuckers show up at his house with Sheriff department backup, looking for a gun my brother(Got laid off and was staying with my dad until he got shit sorted)had sold, legally(went through an FFL, did the paperwork, everything), six months prior, because his bitch of an ex-girlfriend lied her way to restraining order(said he killed her dog). So this DOJ fuckface, presents himself like an asshole, so my dad goes full on AM I BEING DETAINED and asks agent fuckstain if he has a warrant. The asshole tells him, and I quote, "If I had a warrant we wouldn't even be talking, I'd already be inside your house." There's also that thing about them trying to raid the DROS fund to pay their bills, so fuck those guys with a rake sideways. Double fuck Kamala Harris, their piece of shit boss.
>>30473116
>>30473156
I'm doing my best to sift through the code, but it seems that the recording of the purchaser's information will be required starting January 1st 2019. Licensed ammunition vendors will be required to keep records of all transfers of ammunition just like FFLs do with firearm transfers.
Starting January 1st 2018 ammunition may only be sold by licensed ammunition vendors.
Applications for ammunition vendor licenses will begin July 1st 2017.
It appears the background checks will begin to be required January 1st of 2018.
Please do not take my assessment as fact. I am not a lawyer and this bill is rather difficult to read.
2 years may seem like a long time, but I'm sure that is simply the fastest that the new administration and bureaucracy could take form. They aren't giving us "time" to adjust. Two years is the fastest they can adjust.
>>30473132
lots of milsurp shooters or oddball caliber shooters will be fucked. it just got exorbitantly more expensive to shoot uncommon rounds, because now you have to pay for the fees and background checks and taxes of having the ammo shipped to a CA approved ammo vendor.
which in of itself, remains to be seen how that will work out. i dont know of any gunstore who wants the hassle of getting deliveries of ammo for private sales, and stocking/keeping those boxes of ammo where? when you own a business, you are paying rent for real estate. how are they going to store/keep safe ammo from hundreds of random people who order it online?
>>30471069
isn't like 99% of gun crime in california gang members shooting each other / civvies with handguns or sawed offs?
>>30473258
its actually not so bad, to have the ability in california to have an un neutered legal AR again. you will have to register it and shit, but at least you wont have to have some shitty bullet button. and you can keep your little top break ARs on the side if you dont want to register them as assault weapons
>>30473279
Well, the long gun handling test did take 1 entire year before it got set up.
>>30473279
plenty of time for the ammo law to get challenge in court
>>30473291
yes.... and? these laws have never been about fixing 'crime'
>>30473291
Well now 99% will be from otherwise completely law abiding citizens who just happen to own baby killing machines.
>>30473234
Not the guy you asked but .50 Beo has good potential as a hunting round, not to mention that with how hard the rounds hit they're great for barricade use in case you need to stop a car.
Not to mention that it's basically a .45/70 in an AR platform.
>>30471339
>they actually think that'll discourage us from keeping and obtaining illegal magazines/rifles
t. New Yorker. You Cali fucks had better be like us and simply not comply with this bullshit.
>>30473258
I'd like to see something like this but with a quick opening bottom so you can load it from the bottom.
So at what point would you people put your foot down and challenge the state to take your gun?
>>30472705
Come on over. just stay outa west valley city and you'll be good.
>>30471323
>High capacity assault clips, not yet but a democrat can only dream....
>>30473339
I certainly don't plan on it, and I'll be putting the stock mag release back on my AR15, what are they gonna do, double arrest me?
>>30473339
Half the gun-owners in the state are already violating most of the stupid laws, California is just so pants on head retarded that none of them realize it.
They can pass all the laws they want, it won't do shit but inconvenience us.
That ammo one is kind of inconveniencing, but it'll take so long to be in effect someone will fight it out in court.
California can keep passing unenforceable laws all they want. Californians will just keep ignoring them. Just like they ignore everyone and everything else, all the time.
>>30472726
>that shit eating grin at the end as he has already defeated incoming legislation and gained more customers
>>30473326
>>30473335
It just seems like people in Cali would realize the laws aren't gonna fix most of the crime, idk
>>30473338
>everyone starts carrying desert eagles and barrett 50's since they only get 10 rounds
>or muskets
the tears would be so goddamn delicious
>>30473375
All right, smart guy! You're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!
Well Gents. there are only two options left that is "Legal"
1 Massive fucking OC rally with all of your weapons, including Cali banned ones at the steps of the State Senate.
2. Move.
I wish you guys luck either way :(
>>30473396
>It just seems like people in Cali would realize the laws aren't gonna fix most of the crime, idk
The "people" in California had nothing to do with this, it was undertaken by the state legislative branch.
>>30473396
>this just in (AP): gangbanger missing 1 arm, 1 leg, and left half of face as gun owner struggles to adapt to the recoil of a newly purchased, California-legal self defense weapon
>>30473425
Not gonna happen. They did it in New York, they did it in Oregon and Washington, but here? The flatlanders are gutless wonders who will scream and simper at the idea of taking direct action and us rural types are more or less sheltering in place.
We need a Million Rifle March, but we ain't gonna get one. It's disgusting. One more reason to want and Oregon drivers' license -- they have the requisite balls.
>>30473283
Yep. Trying to find 7.5 swiss in my area is like asking for bigfoot riding a unicorn. Luckily midway had some surplus that i bought.
>>30473425
OC is not legal in california anymore since 2012 anon. unless you are on private property or unincorporated area or in a county with a population less than 200,000 people
>>30471666
Damnit satan!
I hope vast amounts of people just ignore it.
Civil Disobedience. Take the legal stuff out to the range to have fun, and keep the other stuff you own for when it's needed or until things change.
Don't register, don't flaunt it, don't say anything except protesting the law (Without being an idiot and saying you're breaking it). Plan rallies and demonstrations.
>>30471069
Brown signing the bills on a Friday before a major holiday weekend and then fleeing to Europe is a major douche move.
>>30473473
>in a county with a population less than 200,000 people
Really? So I can wander through downtown Redding with an unloaded rifle on my back?
>>30471150
Feel for you bro. I am in the same boat but with this now I may have enough reason to leave. Love my family but I dont want to be a felon....
>>30473496
He didn't want to see all the Patriotic flags.
Plus he probably had to report to soros.
>>30473420
/K/OMMANDO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!
>>30473396
Can't get Barret .50s, banned by name(based Barret also refuses to sell to anyone affiliated with the CA gov). But we can get .416s.
>>30472758
Problem is, rest of the populace will okay the use of force against anyone who defends their rights, if they send back body bags.
califags should be happy about the AR law desu. it basically just gives you a chance to sign up for the registered un-neutered assault weapon registry again. so all the people who missed it back in 2001 can get on the boat again and have un-cucked ARs (granted you gotta carry your papers around with you, but its better than not having an uncucked AR)
and the beauty is, if you still want your un-registered cuck-AR, you can still do it with top break.
stores will now move from selling bullet button ARs to ones with set screw locks, and life will go on as normal in faggotfornia.
the laws that really hurt us the most this day are the ammo law and the standard cap mag ban law
>>30473517
.416 will definitely get the job done, but is the beowulf AR banned by name as well?
>>30473425
An OC rally would be interesting. What are people's thoughts on this?
Is this an effective form of protest?
How about a protest without any firearms?
>>30473526
>califags should be happy
No we fucking shouldn't, and fuck you for telling me I should be okay with any infringement, no matter how small, on my natural rights. I will not be satisfied until all of CAs gun laws are rolled back to federal standards, and then I will not be happy until the GCA and NFA are abolished as well. They have taken too much from us already, and given nothing in return.
>>30471728
Literally everyone in the thread
>>30473555
To my knowledge only .50BMG is verbotten.
>fire work ban CA
>4th of July soon
>How's that ban working for everyone?
>gun ban CA
>kek
>>30473375
hey, if you're already being a bad boy you as well go all the way, right?
>>30473382
the ammo laws are admittedly very inconveniencing though
>>30473420
kek
>>30471069
Anyone have that aye Holmes drawing?
With holder and the guns in the car?
>>30473498
i dont know about long guns actually, but a handgun would be fine provided there isnt local ordinance against it and you werent in a post office, gov building, etc
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=26001-27000&file=26350
>>30473498
People actually know what Redding is?
The new definition of assault weapon includes semiautomatic pistols with detachable magazines. WTF?
>>30473667
What the fuck, really? Link please.
>>30473572
but with regards to ARs, this isnt an infringement. thats what im trying to say. this is basically like reopening the grace period of allowing for registered, un-neutered ARs
you havent functionally lost anything with regards to shooting or owning ar15s here. off list lowers are still legal, and there are other mag lock methods that allow them to legally be built up into AR15s. but now you have the option of registering some if you want to rock it without a maglock. which is nice, considered the last time people had this opportunity was 15 years ago
>>30473526
>califags should be happy about the AR law desu. it basically just gives you a chance to sign up for the registered un-neutered assault weapon registry again. so all the people who missed it back in 2001 can get on the boat again and have un-cucked ARs (granted you gotta carry your papers around with you, but its better than not having an uncucked AR)
We don't inherit our country from our fathers, we borrow it from our children. They deserve the right to AR-15s as well.
>>30473680
and they havent lost a damn thing. honestly do you faggots read any of the laws from primary sources or just regurgitate what each other 18 year old non-cali fag is saying because they saw it on msnbc?
let me state that again
AR15s are not banned!!!!!!
you can still have them maglocked with your 10 round cuckmag without registration!!!!!!!!!!!
only now, you can register one or more if you choose, and ditch the lock
do you understand now?
>>30473667
>>30473677
A semiautomatic pistol with a detachable magazine only if it has one of the following
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
which is how it was before.
>>30473473
"Legal" as in, not going full 1776.
Hello FBI. No, I am not advocating for such a thing, nor do I want that to happen. Enjoy your coffee.
>>30473711
Okay, so it's blocking AK pistols and the like. Not surprising.
>>30473704
>>30473680
only now, bullet buttons are illegal. so the method of mag locking has reverted to top break set screw locks.
this is the only change
stop panicking and fight to take our rights back instead. donate to SAF so they can challenge the ammo laws and fucktarded mag ban too. and maybe someday down the road get us our regular ar15s back without requiring PAPIERE JUDEN
>>30473667
>>30473667
how the fuck do you faggots pass school? do they teach reading in school? that was literally already the law since year 2000
>>30473704
They haven't lost a damn thing? Is being forced to gimp your rifle not a loss? AR-15s as designed and intended to be used by their creator will not exist after everyone who is over 18 this year dies. Hell I could make the same argument about how we should be able to have M4/M16, but the same cuckish mindset in the 80s got those effectively banned for all future generations unless you have 30k to drop.
>>30473723
It's the same as its been since 2000. The only change in the definition of assault weapons is the redefinition of detachable magazine.
>>30473750
>>30473750
what im saying is we havent lost a damn thing today, compared with what we had yesterday. our rifles were already gimped since January 1, 2000
if anything, we gained the ability to ungimp our AR15s at the cost of registration. so having that option, is more of a gain really.
>>30471899
>If you are familiar with the feature/featureless flowchart, this shouldn't be anything new. Key point is that they changed the definition of fixed mag to not simply be "tool-required" rather requiring one to disassemble the action, hence why BBs no longer work.
yay my featureless wont need to be registered fuck them
>>30471258
not if you vote for stupid communist cuck dems like the rest of Cali, you're not. We have enough of those idiots moving here. Us smart people fled CA in the 90's.
>>30473806
exactly. you have the option to still own a tranny AR and keep it unregistered.
this thread got way too messy, too many faggots who dont know shit posting random falsities. come to my thread if you need clarification on what this means for you
>>30473861
>>30473861
>>30472847
Can I take it completely apart to prevent this?
>>30473704
>only now, you can register one or more if you choose, and ditch the lock
Wrong. The registry for BB salt weapons is different from the 1989 salt weapons registry. They are creating a new registry, not opening the old one. So any new ones registered will have to remain in their BB state but will be able to use 30 round magazines (which are all illegal now) because doing so makes a BB rifle a salt weapon. So far they haven't made double salt weapons more illegal.
>>30473878
you can just change your bullet button to a maglock like a setscrew that requires breaking the action open
>>30473884
wrong, there is nothing in the law saying there needs to be a BB left on your rifle, the law just names "assault weapons", it does not distinguish between their characteristics
>>30471759
>my "they" does no such thing currently
>therefore it never will
Bad news for you, sport. United we live. Divided we fall.
>>30473816
>Us smart people fled CA in the 90's.
If by smart you mean people with money, a job waiting for them, and/or no family members that need to be taken care of.
>>30472782
What AR? I experienced a tragic deep sea fishing accident involving some chop and it fell overboard. I'm just glad Jaws didn't decide to make an appearance while I was completely disarmed
#Ban assault waves now
>>30473678
This IS an infringement you mouth breathing needle dicked cum guzzling semen demon.
Also you DON'T get uncucked AR's. You can register only the cucked bullet button ARs. And need to carry papers with you. And if they find you with the uncucked AR even with papers, you're going to get boned because no bullet button.
Jesus, you are retarded. I mean, a statist boot licker too. But you have to be retarded to be a statist boot licker. So you're basically a double retard.
>>30473704
You know m8, you really only need 1 testicle in order to reproduce. Not that anyone here is recommending that you do so, we strongly advise against you spreading your defective genes.
No one NEEDS a high capacity ball sack with two testicles, you only NEED one. So we're going to confiscate that other testicle for the good of the chilluns and such. And make sure that you register the remaining testicle.
And no, you can't ditch the bullet button you fuckign mongoloid. You can KEEP your butchered AR with the bullet button if you register it. You will need to keep papers with it, and if you get caught without the bullet button, you're going to get reamed.
Do you understand now?
>>30474939
once its a registered assault weapon you can do whatever the fuck you want with it except full auto
or at least thats how it was with the old raw. no idea on the new raws
>>30475031
How do you register Assault Weapons* in California anyway?
>>30474939
>need to carry papers with you
Well that sucks dick yeah.
>>30471984
>seriously thinking trump is a real candidate and not on hilldogs payroll
Its a rigged election, just a very smartly rigged one
>>30475614
Who gives a fuck?
This is why no one wants Californians to move out of the fucking state.
It's this "I'm not going to vote Republican because of my conscience, but I'm progun as fuck" bullshit. Fuck you. Stay in California and never leave.
>>30475031
Does California send you notices or something?
>>30473170
what happens when we bough them in 2013, they were still registered via ATF 4473 & DROS.
>>30472782
> implying I don't already use a cucked-15
