Did KAC disconinue their quad rails? I'm stuck in the mid 2000s and I detest this newfangled keymod freefloat shit.
You detest having a more accurate rifle?
Also, you can still get MI and DD drop in rails that are just as good if not better than the old KAC stuff.
The entire rail, yeah, they don't sell them anymore however they do sell rail cover panels that make it pretty much the same.
>http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductsList.aspx?CategoryID=228
>>30297993
They turn up at gunshows from time to time. Some are new.
>>30298009
Seconding the Midwest industries quad rail. Makes my mk18 clone look like the real thing
>>30297993
Mlock master race
>>30298009
I always felt like freefloat rails were less sturdy. I'm sure they're fine but I just prefer having the rail held on in two places instead of one. Also I'm not really shooting anywhere where accuracy to that degree matters.
>>30297993
Stay strong. They are plentiful on the secondary market, and KAC does do periodic production runs for some models still every now and then.
If you are feeling fancy you can still track down some 2004 Shot Show Special RAS II delta ring free floats like on my SBR.
>>30298061
Any decent rail, like a Geissele MK8, is going to be sturdy as fuck. Better than a fucking two piece drop in rail that pops off when you hit the deck to dodge Allah's Chosen Childrens' Prayer Guided Infadel Removers.
>>30298149
I do have some FF rails I like, but even those seem to be going away in favor of things like M-LOK and keymod
>>30298187
Yeah, because those systems (especially m-lok) allow for a much lighter handguard while retaining rigidity. There is a reason why things are moving that way, and not just because shit looks cool.
>>30298149
>Better than a fucking two piece drop in rail that pops off when you hit the deck
This is not possible. Not even a drop-in shill, just saying that's retarded.
>>30298225
Mounting things requires more parts. More parts means more things that can break.
>>30298330
And you can replace modular rail ladders, whereas you have to replace the whole rail in a quad rail
>>30298253
The lower section of a KAC drop in can absolutely do that, and has done that to me once.
>>30298330
M-lok is secure as fuck. Do some research if you're interested but I'm not going to try and sway someone with fudd mentality.
>>30297993
they're around.
Should be a small market at least for them. Everyone likes to build clones of various age miliatry rifles.
I want to build an a4 clone , a4 clone on a carbine upper (2005ish i believe), a2 clone the army had with the carryhandle forward mount for the aimpoint, shieeeet i just want to build clones.
>>30298330
Also I should add, by removing the delta ring, handguard cap, and associated parts your are dropping the parts count by adding a free float rail. If you want to think about it in that way.
>>30298397
It's not just that. It's just I prefer the classic "M4" look the same way some people prefer retro ARs
>>30298433
You can find some Kac carbine ras rails on ebay. I too want something like pic, until my dumbass bought a 16 inch midlength instead of a 14.5 carbine
I'll probably buy a beat to fuck kac rail and colt carry handle
14.5 M4 RAS master race
>>30298433
I totally understand preferring the aesthetic but it sounded like you liked drop in rails because they are somehow better. I dig the M4gery look and I plan to build one someday, probably out of a Colt 6920.
>>30298568
That's what I'm planning too. Except for the lack of drop in KAC rail.
I could always fork over $1,700 for an FN-15.
Actually I can't because I'm not that rich.
>>30298616
>Except for the lack of drop in KAC rail
Dude, they are all over ebay and forum classifieds like arfcom or m4c EE.
>>30298565
Let me ask you a question. If you took the A2 sight off and replaced it with a low profile gas block, would the rail still be held in place?
>>30298565
oh my
>>30298678
If you have a lo profile block designed to accommodate the handguard cap it will. an easier solution is to just grind the sight off of the block already there. You can even do it on the weapon still.
>>30298678
Yes, if you still have the handguard retainer on the lo pro block. The m4 ras is not free float.
>>30298565
>dat Raddlock
You lost me.
>>30298702
Say I used one of these (sorry for picture for ants,) that would work, yes?
>>30297993
>I purposely enjoy taking things that aren't good and buying worse versions of them
I so want to buy this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-Armament-KAC-RAS-Drop-in-Quad-Rail-with-KAC-Rail-Covers-/291791609336?hash=item43f0229df8:g:9Q8AAOSwepJXXufP
https://www.modarmory.com/product/usgi-contract-ar15-carry-handle-w-rear-sight-used/
>>30298737
Now you're getting it!
>>30298722
It's not a preban
>>30298737
Exactly
>>30298723
Just make sure the rear seating for the barrel shoulder is short enough to accommodate a handguard cap.
If they don't advertise it, call the manufacturer and ask.
>>30298737
Of the drop-in quads, the KAC are certainly on the better to best end of the spectrum with their additional clamping on the barrel nut not just counting on the delta ring to secure them.
>>30298225
So this may be better off in an AR general, but is there a consensus on what would be the better choice to go with a m-lok rail or keymod?
>>30298983
M-lok is where the industry is slowly shifting. It is a little more of a bitch to attach shit to the handguard, but once it is on there it is REALLY on there. Like, good luck knocking that shit off. I prefer it myself. I also happen to think it looks better.
Keymod is good too though and all the big manufacturers offer keymod stuff. Just do your research.
>>30298026
>http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductsList.aspx?CategoryID=228
holy fuck $22 for a piece of plastic, shit that is overpriced... any alternatives that provide same type of cover for less? That price just seems retarded to the max
>>30299076
Ebay. You can buy a surplus rail cover kit and KAC foregrip for cheap.
>>30299088
thanks for heads up.
Is the 11 rib plastic cover the standard size that covers a carbine length railed handguard?
>>30298565
what optic + mount is that exactly?
>>30299041
Colt/Diemaco's new MMR are fitted with M-LOK as it was a "preference among Colt Canada’s LEO and military customers. However, additional performance metrics such as tear-off strength and ease of manufacture were also taken into account."
>>30298565
what vertical grip is that?
>>30299186
It's the KAC foregrip that's standard issue. You can still buy those. Bretty gud, would recommend.
>>30299132
11 rib covers the whole carbine rail.
>>30299149
Aimpoint PRO with stock QRP mount
>>30298374
Jesus dude, I have to pray and use a screwdriver with all my might to even have a chance of making my Midwest Industrieds dropin rails come out from the tension of the slip ring, what dogshit setup were you using?
>>30299223
>>30299238
>>30299245
thank you, I asked all these questions, appreciate your response
>>30298386
Dude those full size rifles with the aim point cantilever were the business. That was my issue weapon on a GSA tour in Afghanistan and I loved it
>>30298565
Did someone say Colt M4?
M-muh R0977.
>>30299493
Good lord what is that optic
>>30299715
Enosa VNP-009EE
It is a Spanish night vision scope similar to the PVS-4.
>>30299262
I had a surefire light and foregrip on my rail, and I dove behind cover and the fucking thing broke off. Stuffed it in my cargo pocket and kept shooting. It was my issued KAC rail.
>>30299813
To be fair though military gear is typically worn af
>>30299837
We actually got brand new rifles and associated gear when we deployed. Our garrison shit is worn to hell, yeah.
What in the shit is everyone fucking high in this thread? KAC still sells the M4 RAS right on their website even. It's $250
>>30298781
Put your trip back on fagbait
>>30299876
Link?
>>30300180
http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=KM98064
ebay will score you a used one that likely wandered out of an armory for at least $100 less.
My ebay one came with the fully deployment cover kit with multiple cover sizes and vfg.
>>30300319
What the fuck? I posted specifically because I couldn't find it on their site
>>30297993
ebay son, go there
>>30300365
You didn't look hard enough and then asked a bunch of idiots for help. Lesson learned?
>>30300500
Well idiots are typically smarter than me.
Maybe KAC's mobile site is shit
