So, a bunch of the locals here on my street decided they want to start a local militia. The founder I guess you could call him is a retired Army vet who thinks we should have one for some reason. The idea spread like wild fire among all the fellas like him, and they even went as far as to send invitations to join to everyone on the road. He has like 30+ acres of land he said we could use to "train" and what not.They even agreed to pool money together to buy cheap kits for the people who don't have anything including shitty surplus rifles. Should I join the podunk operators or stay outta this shit?
I laughed hard at the font and grammar
>>30210242
say hi to the FBI for me
>>30210242
Go check it out, it should be fun. Also, the instant anything even SLIGHTLY illegal gets brought up, get the fuck out of there, since it's become an ATF/FBI honeypot.
>>30210248
That is where my paranoia comes from, a bunch of white dudes indawoods with guns and shit. I am think I see a flower delivery van out my window already.
>>30210256
>a bunch of white dudes indawoods with guns and shit.
Why does the gubmint hate this above all else?
>>30210256
Irony, I go and say shit about their grammar and proceed to fuck up myself. I guess I would be among company.
>>30210256
Mate, if it's not illegal, there's no problem. Of course, if you seek some less savory and possibly illegal pursuits, then it would be better for you to steer away from then, as joining would add you to yet another watchlist, or bump up your threat level.
i would tell them to go fuck themselves based on the font alone.
>>30210242
Sounds more like an armed neighborhood watch than a Militia. I say go for it if you want provided they don't do or encourage anything illegal. If you ever feel concerned you can always bail.
>>30210242
Go, it might be fun.
You'll get some /k/ stories for sure.
>>30210242
If they are offering to buy guns on your behalf you may have entered straw man purchase territory.
>>30210311
its not a straw purchase if you can legally own a gun
>>30210269
>Mate, if it's not illegal, there's no problem.
This is objectively wrong. There are plenty of legal thoughts and actions that can lead to negative consequences.
Openly joining a "militia" is one of them.
>>30210311
autism/10
>>30210242
>brb calling FBI ATF DEA CIA NSA
>>30210298
Alrighty then, I'll give it a go they are having a meeting this weekend, so that everyone can meet each other and discuss the things we went to get out of this.
>>30210242
>Using cursive type font
If you can't write in cursive, there's no point in typing out a document and printing in cursive.
>>30210311
I hope not, like some anons said if it gets shady I am GTFO. I would hope they have common sense to sort out who is a felon and who is not before doing that.
>>30210261
Because they hate competition.
And most fed LEOs are also overpaid white men or angry minorities with a authority and hero complex who want to get back at the people who picked on them as kids.
>>30210311
>Getting donations to give kit gifts to people is strawman territory
Here what to do OP.
Call the FBI, offer to become a insider, then trick them to commit something illegal, possibly by smuggling in full auto rifles provided by the FBI itself, get everyone busted, be a hero ("a hero", not "an hero", there is a difference).
>>30210242
>Natural disaster
>Ice Storm
Sounds like an average Tuesday in Michigan.
>>30210499
It was pretty shitty, power was knocked out all over the damn state someplace including us for over a week. The city had no response to it and had to get outside help.
>>30210242
They will be a problem if anything major goes down. Just keep it in the back of your mind. Nothing brings out the worst in people than the lightest hint of authority, no matter how illegitimate.
>>30210340
Maybe they are trying to weed out a certain demographic
>Sign up
>Pretend to be nogunz
>Get free nugget
>Stick around to see if you like it
>Maybe get some local shooting buddies and free range
Im kinda jelly. My street is all old people.
>>30210321
SO just to make sure (I live TX if that helps), the gun I bought for my gf (who is legally allowed to own one) is totally fine? The guys at the gun store said its illegal under any circumstances (which sounded like bullshit).
>>30210242
wont hurt to join up, make some friends, go outside and have some fun.
Bounce at the first sign of illegal activity though.
>/r/ing screencap of an FBI run militia getting raided by every other gubbmint agency
>>30210541
Sounds like an average Tuesday in the U.P.
>>30210582
gifts.
>>30210582
Was it a gift? Can she own legally? If so, you're fine.
Was it not a gift? Did she give you money for it? Did you use a mil/leo discount? Can she not legally own? If so, you're fucked.
>>30210598
This the one?
>>30210624
It was a gift and she can legally own it.
It really bothers me that stores act like youre a criminal for wanting to buy a gift for someone.
Its absurd that I have to lie to sales people about it not being for me, and they have to lie to me that it is illegal to buy a gun for ANYONE. Also, why would the store even be liable (aka why do they care so much)?
>>30210671
The only way the store would be lieable is if they knew you were doing something illegal, and even if they the knew all they have to do is say the did not. Would not believe how easy it is to stay out of trouble simply keeping your mouth shut.
>>30210671
>Its absurd that I have to lie to sales people about it not being for me
I'm not an expert on Texas, but lying about it not being for you on the forms is illegal here in Michigan iirc.
>>30210261
Because white dudes can get things done if they get mad enough.
The darker skinned brothers have a tendency to tear their own communities apart.
The light skinned go "hey, we are mad at the government. Lets fight the government"
>>30210721
This actually makes sense, why didn't black panthers start firebombing government buildings and shit?
>>30210731
because the welfare office a govt. building
>>30210242
>the 662 Minutemen
I see where this is going
Somebody could post that funny pic of "Don't tread on me" but with the snake holding a grenade?
>>30210757
Well unless I some how get promoted to general I think I am good. Making the general do all that shit what kinda backward ass army are they.
>>30210582
It's legal to buy a gun for another person as a gift, what's illegal is shell buying for people who can't legally buy themselves
>>30210242
I'm sorry all I heard was "Free shooting range".
Daily reminder that its is perfectly legal and your right to start a militia or join one. Don't forget to give your militia legitimate recognition if possible and have a legal backing.
>http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/library/militia/2-1.html
>http://www.constitution.org/mil/how2actv.htm
>>30210847
THIS
>>30210242
I would stay out of it. It's either FBI/ATF or some fudds who want to run around and play soldier.
>>30210242
All it's going to take is someone's masculinity getting stepped on for this to crash and burn in a conflagration of pride and feels. That's always how these things go eventually.
>>30210787
>>30210671
You bought it for yourself and gave it to her as a gift. Parents buy guns for their children all the damn time, or at least they did when I was growing up.
>>30210950
God bless you.
>>30210636
How are incidents like this not entrapment for the non-alphabet boys involved?
>>30210962
or bought it for yourself and privately sold it to her for $1. I assume there are no laws in you being a terrible businessman.
>>30210985
Militias are terrorists, it is justified :^)
>>30210636
Danke
>>30210996
>2016
>posting 2.5/10 bait
>>30210242
yes
>>30210636
Wow.
>>30210256
Lol get a black dude or hispanic to join so it won't be all white guys
>>30210582
They're probably just being on the safe side, one slip up and they could lose their license. Realistically straw purchases are rather hard to prove, you're likely fine, it's the FFL that would get in deep shit
>>30210985
It is, but do you really thing the government cares?
>>30210261
Because nothing is better at killing evil government employees than pissed off white men with guns.
>>30210242
I'd write a letter saying you're interested in seeing what they are all about. If they are doing things legally and safely, then fuck what the Feds think or do.
Do it. Militia is necessary this day and age. I will also advise that, as soon as anybody looks like they've lost it, make sure to get them kicked out or to leave yourself .
>>30210582
Everyone here telling you that it's ok are underage no gun faggots. NO YOU CANNOT BUY A GUN FOR SOMEONE ELSE UNLESS THEY PUT THERE NAME ON THE 4473 AND GET A NICS BACKGROUND CHECK. you committed a straw purchase, anon.
>>30211971
If she is not prohibited it is not a straw purchase.
>>30211971
their*
>>30210636
This is the same government that is going to take our guns while raping our churches and burning our women?
>>30211971
bonafide gifts are an exception, cheech.
>>30210242
The 2nd amendment says NECESSARY, so just do it, faggot.
Join the militia and enjoy Fudds. If you are lucky, you will meet some Koreans who can teach you how to successfully defend you and your neighborhood from your roof
>>30212003
>>30212047
>>30212003
>>30212047
>>30212116
A 4473 not for ants
>>30210636
>>30211220
Fun fact, during the McCarthy commie scare there were more FBI agents in the American communist party than there were actual communists, by a significant quantity
>>30212116
"on behalf" means that you are acting as their agent to purchase the firearm.
In the case of a gift you are indeed the buyer and are using you own funds. That you intend to give it away after you, the buyer, buy it, matters to the ATF not at all.
Look up straw purchase prosecutions. Not a single one involves buying a firearm as a gift.
>>30212156
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/06/16/supreme-court-affirms-police-officer-s-felony-conviction-for-buying-gun-for-law-abiding-uncle/
>>30211971
You can give a gun as a gift.
But I think an organization buying a crate of nuggets and passing out bulk nuggets may be a bit different from "buying your GF a pistol".
>>30212170
"If it was free he would have been ok"
Nevermind I am dumb
>>30212183
To be clear, here it mean buying a gun then giving a gun to someone later as a present.
As far as I know, intent is key here. They can't stop you buying a gun yourself, then choosing later to give it to someone. But I don't think you can buy a gun specifically for another person on their behalf.
But I could be wrong.
>>30210568
No they're trying to emulate formality like the founding fathers. By asserting a certain amount of formality they hope to legitimize the document/idea and make it seem to be more than some idea. It's fine, just silly.
>>30210242
I know where this is
>Im telling The High Priest
>>30210636
MFW a very similar thing happened to my father in the 90s.
>dad is FBI based in Indianapolis
>militia activity in rural Indiana
>fat white guys innawoods with SKSs
>dad fakes interest in SKS to infiltrate
>whole shit goes down only like 5 or the 50 members were not LEO of some sort.
>whole thing so spooky the militia's attorney started American Justice Federation and went full conspiracy nut.
>>30212170
Except he lied about who would receive the gun. THAT'S what made it a strawman purchase. The anon(s) you're replying to are right.
>>30212206
>But I don't think you can buy a gun specifically for another person on their behalf.
You absolutely can. Where the issue comes in is if you lie about who the ultimate recipient of the gun is and/or they cannot legally own said gun.
>I buy x for y
>I state this
>They can legally purchase or own x
This is fine
>I buy x for y
>I do not state this
>They can legally purchase or own x
This is illegal
>I buy x for y
>I do not state this
>They cannot legally purchase or own x
This is illegal
>I buy x for y
>I state this
>They cannot legally purchase or own x
This is illegal, and you're retarded for admitting to a strawman purchase
OP here, I have an update I asked about the whole gun thing and I was told he has an FFL. He has it so that one he can get background checks before he gives out the guns, and technically they are not "free" he is going to charge one dollar so by law a transaction has gone through. Not entirely sure but from what I understand it is legit.
>>30212412
well shit, go get your $1 gun then
>>30212422
>get $1 gun
>bring all your friends, everyone gets a $1 gun
>form your own gun-related club with your friends and your free guns
>>30213499
Well if what he says is legit, I don't think he would mind, but I guess I will go to the meeting friday and find out what is up. Just hope I dont get there and here "surprise cock" before FBI blast me.
>>30210636
>>30212262
It makes me laugh to see stories like this, because it's basically the plot to Man who was thursday...except bubbas instead of european anarchists.
>>30213550
>>30210242
the real question is: wtf is there worth protecting in area code 662? Northern MS might as well be the land time forgot, complete with the occasional brontosaurus walking through the catfish farms, and retarded sister fuckers hopping the border from arkansas.
OP, this is clearly a plot to go a'viking into southern tennessee, because your militia leader knows damn well they need to get out of MS, and the easiest way for them is conquest.
>>30210242
Who the fuck still writes in cursive?
>>30210255
This. Definitely this. Nothing wrong with taking a look-see but if they start breaking laws get the fuck out of there quick.
>>30213607
That is what I am going to do. Take a look and if it is legit and enjoyable I will stick around. However, if shit goes south I am gone in a heart beat.
>>30210582
If she can own it legally then it's fine. The gun store guys probably just hate you.
>>30210255
You basically might as well state up front "hey if this is like a neighborhood watch and community assistance group then I'm interested but if the plan is for us to be behind the south rising again count me out"
>>30213589
The 662 is not the area code, it is the street address of the founding members of their group. They all start with 662, mine does as well but I have not decided weather I am on board or not. We live in GA so gun laws are pretty lax.
>>30210242
Take notes and gather intel on the group. Don't share it, but keep it safe at home.
If the shit ever hits the fan you can use your notes to switch sides as a whistleblower. Just make sure not to kill any niggers / get caught killing any niggers.
>>30210962
>>30210671
this
technically you are buying it for yourself
store just doesn't want to be liable for a strawman purchase
>>30210261
Cause they are the ones who overthrew the last govt.
>>30213711
Oh I am going to take notes and if they do go all "let us topple the government" I am gonna go earn my crushed my first rebellion badge from uncle Sam.
>662
REEEEE NORTH MISSISSIPPI GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30210582
If the person who paid for it is the person who is in fact receiving the firearm, and that person has a third party sign the 4473, then that is a straw purchase.
Nothing else is a straw purchase.
straw purchase = A gives B money, B buys a firearm, B gives A the firearm
>>30213754
>straw purchase = A gives B money, B buys a firearm, B gives A the firearm
(but not necessarily in that order)
>>30210242
My only qualm is that a local militia should actually have physical training. Getting all of the men in a community together and not using the opportunity to improve your overall physical fitness is a waste. For some reason, I get the feeling that most militia members are fat-asses just looking for people to complain about Obama with.
If you're in a good community, I don't see why not. Could be a good way to get some non-forced socialization.
Not my road then because I live in GA on 662 street address.
>>30211971
No, I've read the ATF filings on the matter. They recommend buying a gift card or some stupid shit, but they've made no legal rulings on giving someone a gun as a gift. If you are certain someone is not a felon and you purchase a firearm on their behalf, then it is not a straw purchase. I can't think of a single instance where the ATF has gone after a father buying a rifle for his son's 18th birthday.
>>30210256
Then join and if anyone suggests doing something illegal tell them its illegal and refuse to partake in it
ITT: Everyone getting trolled; OP was posted to reddit w/ some serious racebait title awhile back
those old fucks dont realize the two brothers who are 17 and 19 that grew up hunting, are in shape from playing sports, and not old enough to care about morality at all will absolutely decimate those old greasy fucks and their "militia" if anything ever went down where that "militia" started trying to run shit. these guys need to realize their glory days are far past before they get themselves wacked. fucktards just outed themselves to the whole community.
>>30213744
you're a total faggot
>>30210242
Well at least he put the invitation in cursive so no blacks would understand it. Good start.
>>30210242
>>30210757
Came to post this. Typed letter and "minutemen" are dead giveaways
Its either a honeypot or you are being trolled.
>>30215270
a lot of kids nowadays don't even learn cursive because it's not required under "common core" standards
>>30212264
am 19 how do get lower for babbys 1st rifle build then
>>30216771
wizards plz go
>>30214064
lol when its "old age and treachery vs. youth and skill" the smart money goes on the old timers.
the above point about it being more a krispy kreme militia is well-taken, though.
>>30210242
why does that handwriting look like it was written by a 6th grader?
>tfw you'll never receive an invitation to join a well organized militia operating innawoods
Non-American feels...
>>30213828
They just skipped you because you're a fag
>>30212155
some might see that as an embarrassment, others might see it as a resounding victory. i guess intent is the operator
>>30210847
This. Subvert the bastards, try to convert it into a federally-subsidized gun club/networking thing. Lose the word "Militia" from the name of the group, but only after its established.
>>30211971
Wanna know how I know you're a dirty Commiefornian?
>>30210276
Agreed.
>not using Georgia masterrace
>>30213839
They never came after me and I bought my brother a 1911 for his 21st birthday
>>30213839
They might shoot the kids dog just to be safe though
>>30212262
>Govt meddling creates a tinfoilhat
It seems like the more the fed gets their claws into something out of honest and good intent, the worse of a situation they create of what they fear.
So, by that metric, the war on drugs makes the using population worse, fighting the existence of cartels actually empowers them to grow, and banning guns only increases the severity of active shooters when they spree
>>30210242
>Pretend to be a poorfag
>Get a free nugget and some ammo
>Quit
>????????
>Profit
>>30210816
>As per usual, the correct answer is completely overlooked.
>>30210570
Befriend all of them and go to the range together
>>30217652
Well, you're not wrong..
>>30210488
>get everyone busted, be a faggot
ftfy
>>30214038
It still makes for interesting conversation though.
>>30217652
>implying they don't do it on purpose as an excuse to reach for more power
Oh my sweet summer child...
>>30215270
>yfw the meme is reality
>>30210242
prepare to meet nothing but autists, old fudds, and ATF plants OP. Never join a "militia", join a "service organization" that has a good standing relationship with the local sheriff's department when they need people to pass out water bottles after a tornado
>who happen to practice marksmanship and enjoy camping.
starting a "militia" for fighting muh enemies foreign and domestic is just asking for a family sized portion of alphabet soup.
>>30210941
This. Do it for laughs OP but all "militias" are nothing but ego boosters for their leaders, who are invariably all "colonels."
Keep us updated if you do but I'm willing to bet the founder is an idiot, that will eventually become clear to some members, drama will ensue, group will fragment, cycle will repeat itself.
Look into the drama from the Bundy Ranch groups. It's enlightening.
tl;dr Do it and let us know when they start bitching about each other like middle school girls.
>>30210731
Lack of agency.
>>30218650
More like
>Lack of being able to wake up before noon
>>30210242
Holy shit that handwriting is impressively bad
>>30210242
>free range to shoot at
>likely feds are involved
>if s actually htf, you now have a group of people you can protect your neighborhood with
(assuming you weren't an autistic asshole about this)
>>30210242
>That handwriting
So a child wrote this, right?
