/meg/- Military Enlistment General
Letting it die edition
>Discord
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>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
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Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Going to see a Navy recruiter tomorrow, he told me to bring some questions with me. What exactly should I be asking him about that I cant't find on the internet?
I have the opportunity to join the NZDF, but I can also get my Australian citizenship and join the ADF, which would be a better option ?
Does baguette enlistment count ?
>>30199945
>he told me to bring some questions with me
You need to go in knowing what job you want. If you dont have id say 3 jobs picked out hes going to fuck you with some shit rate. Do you have any jobs/rates in mind?
Daily Reminder For US Enlistees To:
>Never Go Security Forces
>Never Go Military Police
>>30200707
Also never go MA/Master at Arms
>>30199853
Which congresspersons do Commonwealth applicants for Militay Academies have to contact?
>>30200410
Yeah, I'd love to be a CTN or a CTT or IT, basically anything with computers. Also the recruiter sounded really... young? And kind of inexperienced or something? I don't know, just the way he spoke seemed off. Should I be careful?
>>30200707
Why
Redpill me on 19K
>>30200982
>Also the recruiter sounded really... young?
Well technically if you joined at 18 you could be recruiting around 23-24 so he could be young and just arrived to recruiting tahts all.
>Should I be careful?
Absolutely but thats whith literally any recruiter. realize they arent your friends they have a job to do. remember that.
>CTN or a CTT or IT, basically anything with computers.
All excellent jobs. If you have to asvab and meet all the qualifications for a clearance than have at it.CTR is also a great rate.
>>30201019
Cause they suck ass, they hype them up but its all propaganda. Yuu will just stand around checking IDs and thats all. Its so boring and mind numbing you will want to blow your brain out. Plus for MAs in the navy advancement is terrible from what i remember so that sucks as well.
>>30201052
When will I take the practice ASVAB? The first time I meet him?
>>30201125
>The first time I meet him?
I did it that way, but not necessarily. Are you smart? In all seriousness if you are an idiot you should study i suppose before hand. I walked in and took it and i didnt even know what it was and got a 95. If you arent confident then delay a little and study up cause if you score low hes going to dismiss you whenh you say you want CTN.
>>30201170
I don't THINK I'm an idiot, but I guess we'll see. I know it's percentile-based so I hope my competition isn't too harsh.
They told me my SECF rate today.
>ET-NAV
Is this any good?
I wanted ET-COM.
Do people usually make appointments to see recruiters, or can I just walk right in to the office?
>>30200707
>tfw wanna be PJ, but if I wash out (75% do) I end up in security forces
Tough choice to enlist
>>30202676
Call ahead. Walk-ins are totally fine, but there's always a low to fair chance that the recruiters will be out doing something. Better to not risk wasting your time.
Going I see USMC recruiter tomorrow.. I'm just gonna walk in I didn't call ahead or anything. Should I bring any paper work with me
>>30203126
Social security card, state-issued ID, and high school diploma. That's what I remember, at least.
First round of paperwork done for Canadian Army. Now the waiting begins
>>30203204
i used the little wallet sized one, dunno if thatll fly for him
i go to boot soon am i fucked
>>30203355
>Posts gay porn
Will somebody fuck my ass?
FTFY.
>>30203374
how did you know it was gay porn :^)
Canadian here. Aptitude test next week. Looking at going Land Weapons Tech. What should I expect?
>>30203383
I have eyeballs.
>>30203429
You have a dirty mind
the guy is clearly just disgruntled because he just saw his credit card bill :^)
Is it true that full time soilders and officers shit on reserves constantly? Im considering joining but not if im just going to be bullied nonstop
>>30203204
A copy of my diploma or the actual thing
>>30203450
It's gay porn. But kek.
>>30203463
topkek
>>30201993
You may be fine. Did you do good in High School? Ok on the SAT/ACT? They might not aplly 100% but generally someopne who does well on those does well on ASVAB and someone who got all Ds in highschool generally wont score a 99. There are exceptions but usually you can tell if someone is a dumbass or not.
>>30202630
ET is a good rate all around. When i was in advancement was shitty as fuck though so idk. You may be restricted to a certain class of ships with that though.
>>30203355
>am i fucked
Why would you be?
What should I do to prepare for MEPS and then basic for the Chair Force?
>>30203463
>shit on reserves
Yes, why wouldnt they? You are pretending to be active evern though you arent and still getting all the benefits. Dont be a pussy just go active for 4 years then if you want get on and go reserves that way.
>>30203527
because I dont feel like I'm that fit :(((((
I only had a few weeks to train
>>30203538
Cant go wrong with this. I'll post part 2 if you want it.
>>30200075
How is the regular's enlistment? I only know how the Legion enlistment works
>>30203558
Are you a huge fat ass??? If not youll be fine.
>>30202702
Don't fucking wash out then
Get your ass in perfect shape mate
>>30203562
Sure, share the second part. More knowledge the better.
>>30203591
yayyyayy
thanks m8
time to get comfy
>>30203463
In the reserves you'll almost never run into any AD military.
But you'd still be a giant faggot.
>>30203606
In general all boot camp is lots of body weight exercises and lots of running. Get good at that and youll be fine. If you are doing some extreme Job/rate/MOS than obviously you need to do more but if you are a basic bitch than this is all you need.
>>30203642
>if you are a basic bitch than this is all you need.
Now those are fighting words my friend.
How would one go about not doing it the basic bitch way?
>>30203541
I already have a real job though.
>>30203693
>real job
What is it? And in that case why join at all? But if your heart is set on reserves than definitely go for it but you should consider going active at least for 4 years than going reserves after.
>>30203686
Well im saying if you want to be a SEAL or SF or PJ or something you will most likely have to do more in addition to that. I knew a few hard core guys and they did body weight stuff like that but on alternate days did powerlifting style heavy workouts. Compounds like squats deads bench and what not plus heavy ruck marches aint a bad idea either. Also if you are doing something like seals than you would need to work lots of swimming into there as well.
>>30203750
Okay maybe that is a bit much and I don't see me getting into anything Special Forces.
Use to be a lazy fat fuck but I manage to change the lazy and fat to a active and normal.
>>30203750
Software dev. The reason i want to join is becauase i want the benefits exactly like you said.
>>30204106
Well have at it i suppose. Youre best bet would be to get a similar rate id imagine. Maybe IT or some type of CT rate.
Posting this for a /k/omrade of mine since he's a bitchboi:
my buddy whose been in living the country for a few years is looking to become a citizen through the Mavni program. He's freaking out because he smoked weed like 2 or 3 times. He knows enough to know that he should probably lie in MEPs but he's worried about his background investigation.
anyone here know whether he'd be fine lying or should he just come clean about it? He says the background is basically like a TS clearance investigation and worries that lying in MEPs will come back to bite him.
>>30204341
If he's not bold enough to post anonymously on a Japanese Hermaphrodite Dating Website I don't fucking care. No advice.
>>30204427
>oh look a chance to shitpost instead of actually being helpful
2/10 fampai thanks for playing
>>30204341
Lie at MEPS, reveal you smoked pot before at your TS investigation if you have to
There's guys here who've lied about felonies and somehow never been caught, he'll be fine as long as there's no record of it
>>30204519
If you say so.
OR I don't want to give advice to someone who won't ask it themselves. Do you want me to ask a girl out for you also because you're too scared to talk to her?
So with there being a good chance that Trump will be the next president, should I reconsider joining the military? Will he start a war? What is being in the Navy like when there's a war going on? Will they make me serve the full 8 years instead of just 4?
>>30201038
Most of your time will be doing maintenance and enjoying peace time barracks life somewhere very hot or very Korean.
The rest of your time will be in a nearly all powerful death machine working with a team of 3 others to bring about direct, mobile, protected firepower on the cowering heads of targets.
From what I have heard, to many that latter part is worth the former. Also Master Gunner.
>>30204627
Screw it, the guy he's talking about is me...
I am legitimately paranoid about posting stuff about it not because I did anything wrong (other than pot, still hate the fat fucker who talked me into it the first time), but rather they assumed I did something wrong and i'm going to catch hell for it...
I'm a faggot I know
>>30204692
Good man.
Exercise and sweat your balls off. Niacin pills and cranberry juice. Admit nothing.
Don't pt before piss test. Goto a head shop and get a flush your system kit. 420 Infantry vet giving you best advice I can. Basically quit while in and flush system.
>>30204106
None of the bennies of the reserves are worth giving up any time as a software dev. The occasional few weeks of your civilian salary you will lose to military bullshit training will cost you more than the benefits you earn.
>>30204692
>blaming some fattie for peer pressuring you into drugs instead of taking responsibility for being a dumbass like an adult.
k.
What would happen to someone if they legitimately forgot about a misdemeanor when they were 13-15 and it came up on a Secret clearance? Would they be discharged?
Going to AF recruiter tomorrow. I have a list of jobs i'd like to do. Anything i should do? Are slacks and a button up appropriate?
>>30204809
I haven't smoked in like 10 months - 1 year and the only reason I smoked the last time was because I was at a party and drunk...
And before that I the other 2 times I smoked were a year - 1.5 years in between...
No I was never caught for it... Out of the 5 people who know, 2 aren't going to say shit, 1 has fucked off and I don't know where he went, 1 is still in the same town I lived but realistically the people I am listing don't know he exists, and the last one died in a car crash...
I have no qualms about lying at meps, I am aware of the meps fuck-fuck games...
What I am concerned of is the investigation following swearing/enlistment... MAVNI's undergo a TS investigation not for a clearance but rather as a vouch for loyalty and moral character... And is it isn't recommended to lie during this type of investigation because they actually send CIAguy types to talk to the people you list in your form...
Honestly from everyone that have taken them they said the investigators wouldn't care if you smoked pot (people have gotten clearances even after doing worse) but rather if you were honest or not with them...
At this point i am worried whether or not lying at meps is going to be an issue if I'm going to be honest with them, especially since DoD is going to the one adjudicating it...
gonna talk to a marine OSO soon
would it be bad to let him know im still thinking about the navy but wanted to see my options? i really do like the muhreens but i dunno what my chances are of getting in
Is quiting smoking weed for a year enough to tell them no if they ask?
Past two years been stressful and I kinda used it as a crutch to make life better.
>>30205141
>implying the military won't be stressful
>implying you won't go back to being a pothead and get kicked out
>>30205157
Nah, this was more due to family and feeling of being useless. I'm good now and have things fix with the family. Since the start of the year I've been working out more and smoking less.
doesnt effect me, but whats up with all the paranoia about "what if I smoked weed like 5 years ago"?
As long as you don't have it in your system when you enlist, or dont have any police/work/school record related to drug offenses, how the fuck is anyone, including the CIA, going to know whether you smoked pot or not a year ago? Maybe I'm missing something, but unless your parents/references are total retards how would the gov/mil find that out?
>>30205202
I fear they are gonna ask my ex friend who I am no longer friends with and he squeals on me.
>>30202702
Don't risk it, I am at the point of getting out instead of serving the 20 that I want to serve because the bullshit involved with Security Forces is worse than any human, animal, or spirit should have to bare.
>>30205202
Because of something called the SSBI, in which is probably the most invasive investigation you'd ever go through if you're unlucky enough to have to go through it...
They send I'm CIA types to talk to people you know and for some it is nerve wracking...
guys im in trouble.
i depped in at october and weighed 217 pounds at 74 inches.
i leave in 20 days and im now 243 pounds
im terrified that ill have to stay for another 3 months, my bmi is like 28% right now
>>30205249
As an Mechanical Engineer with 1 more year. This is probably the biggest thing that people fear. I have heard many times from professors and classmates tell stories where spooks freak out their friends or relatives.
>>30205282
Please, please for the love of God help me.
>>30205282
I don't know what the fuck happened my activity level hasn't changed and I've not been eating any more than I was previously
should I bring my phone when I ship out?
I kinda wanna see if any of my fellow boots are on Grindr...
>>30205249
damn, read up on it and its far more intense sounding than the TS clearance check had seemed to me before.
>>30205023
>Are slacks and a button up appropriate?
It cant hurt.
>>30205044
>im still thinking about the navy
Dont tell them this.
>>30205323
>getting military boipussy
Hope you like AIDS
>>30205202
>You pick a cleared job
>Clearance paperwork asks you to list all the shit you've done, and a bunch of contacts.
>Investigator goes out to talk to your contacts in person.
>Ignores all the responses from the people you actually listed, only really uses them to get more contacts
>Talks to your stoner high school friends.
>Initially they're cool, until he tells them that lying to a federal investigator is a crime (true)
>Fuck that shit man, they don't even know you anymore and they aren't getting charged with something while trying to save your ass.
>Beans are spilled
>You are fucked.
>>30205413
So tell the truth.
>>30205409
I-is this true
no....
>>30205282
>20 days
you're fucked
try not eating after 2pm, go running once a day (doesnt have to be a lot even 20 minutes at a good pace is fine). drink more water. dont drink soda or eat fastfood. also pushups planks and stretching
>>30205464
I would recommend never fucking anyone in the military unless you are 100% sure it won't fuck you over and they ain't carrying anything.
The bane of liking the same sex and being around mostly athletic men.
>>30205282
>tfw 74 inches and weigh 240
>tfw lift weights
>tfw wanna join marines but idk if I fit the height and weight standard for enlistment
I'm able to do 10 pullups and the
Sit-ups and mile and a half run.
One website say I can be no more than 214 pounds and another one says a maximum of 253. But I'm going down to the recruiter tomorrow and talk to them.. Hopefully it's 214 after you ar wofficaly a marine cause I know I'll drop weight in boot
>MEPs forgot to request more paperwork from me
>told the day of shipping that I won't be shipping until we pull an obscure medical record
>recruiter looks like he's going to cry
RIP
>>30205605
Are* officially*
>>30205614
>recruiter looks like he gonna cry
Man something got fucked up or you are just unlucky.
>>30205605
Fuck I mean 76 inches not 74
>>30199853
Went through recruting a while back with the Navy. Super high ASVAB score, but couldn't do any of the jobs I liked because I'm colorblind, and they very rarely do waivers for it. On the bright side, companies are starting to roll out glasses for colorblind so it might change before I'm too old.
>>30203228
Canadian here
What branch and job are you going for?
>>30205633
No, they rescheduled the ship date a week upwards and I'd already cleared everything else. Took twenty minutes of driving and an equal amount of time pleading for the hospital to release the record.
Essentially he'd forgotten to pull paperwork that they'd told him to pull six months ago and therefore the civilian in charge of the place chewed him out.
Poor guy, I would have to do his job,
>>30205667
*hate to have to
>>30201993
Competition isn't bad, I'm a fucking moron and I somehow pulled a 99. Wish I still had the damn paperwork that proved. Oh well, another person lying on the internet.
>>30205658
Always hope
>>30205688
Nice subtle brag.
>>30205605
Stop trying to buff yourself up on the internet. You will be taped and your body fat % will be measured and if you pass, you pass.
Your bitch ass is going to suffer every second of training and as coming from an infantryman you do not seem cool, awesome, legit, stacked, whatever the fuck you are trying to make yourself out to be. Lose your fucking ego BEFORE you get there or you're going to hate your life in boot and in your unit.
>>30205720
It's honest. I scored decent on the practice, I think I just got some decent guesses.
>>30199853
Welp
I was lined up to take a 68W contract with Jump School.
Today I find out that I might be getting offered NYPD soon. Considering doing NYPD and doing National Guard 68W. I wanted to do 68W so I could do flight medic and do SAR. Which NG has.
>>30205413
thats fucking brutal.
>>30205806
>NYPD
Why? Everyone hates cops. Fuck that go 68W man.
>>30205032
Jesus, calm the fuck down. How would they even find out. You have literally nothkng to worry about.
This is autistic
>>30205219
>ex-friend
how old are you?
Why would they ask some random idiot?
>>30205738
Lol my ego? Where did you get that from bro? I'm 6'4 I was a former fatty at 290
And I found /fit/ and started lifting and dropped to 190 then bulked up to 240.. I'm Not trying to "buff" myself up lol. I'm currently in the process of loosing weight cause I know the lighter I am the easier it will be.. I'm just saying I'm capable of doing the fitness requirements in order to get shipped to boot
>>30205848
Because of circumstances like this post honestly >>30205413
Honestly I don't have a problem telling them about me smoking pot, its meps that's really the problem...
so if you sign a DD (intel) contract do you have to get a TS no matter what even though only 02xx needs it? i really want 26xx over 02xx but theres nothing i can do about it iirc
>>30199853
So I've decided to join the army but over the years I've been browsing /pol/ and along the way I've picked up some mysogonist views and attitudes. I'm just curious, how often will I interact with females in the military. And are there female drill Sargents that will be in my face? I feel like I'll be tempted to drop some redpills and let every one know that this is just a big communist social experiment
The war is over. Unless you're joining the navy in an engineering rate, your time will be fruitless and trivial.
You missed your chance, the war is over. There is no glory to be had.
>>30206758
What about AF for Engineering?
>>30206787
Not in the air force, so i can't answer that. All i know is i get emails every day with links to job applications related to gas turbines and gauge calibration.
is there a fatboy camp for the navy?
>>30206804
Hmmm, really don't want to fall for my dad's meme of "everyone from the desert ends up on a boat" but I guess I should consider the Navy now.
>>30206814
I mean if you want deployments and a legitimate career that involves much more than sweeping up rain or polishing rocks, then yes i would encourage it.
>>30206758
>There's no glory to be had
100% false. Marines, Hospital Corpsman, all SF/SO rates/mos's, intel assigned to SF/SO communities, SAD/SOG, etc sees action still. The only people that rarely see action is the Army.
>>30206833
So literally everyone in support of specwar, which is probably less than 15 percent of our entire armed forces.
I mean if you want to find yourself in the middle east filing hesco barriers all day, and never firing a single shot from your rifle in anger, by all means go ahead
>>30199853
Lets put this shit to rest
Regarding drugs/crime, at MEPS lie through that shit. For your TS Clearance/SSBI, tell the truth (they don't care about small drugs or small crime)
Correct?
>>30204562
I call bullshit,how could their be no record of felonies.
>>30206868
Its not a lie if they can't prove it. Tokin up is one thing, a possession charge you can kiss that ts goodbye unless you can suck some serious dick and get a waiver.
There's a reason most people with top secret are computer nerds, intel, etc. They never fucked around with that stuff like everyone else did.
>>30206876
I don't really mean possession of drugs, more like minor infractions that are on your record.
But every /meg/ I see different answers on if someone should lie or not, if the DOD cared whether or not you smoked etc.
>>30206890
What kind of minor infractions?
Honestly it's all the more reason to come clean to your recruiter and don't sign shit until he says you're good.
>>30204685
Thanks for the reply
I plan on going for this mos
Anyone National Guard?
30 y/o no prior service, just a former paramedic. Missing commodore and exercise from high school/college sport teams (no homo).
Kentucky - I think my options were MP or something else that wasn't sexy. Have a degree, so I'm guessing Officer is another thing to consider.
>>30203463
I'm an E5 in the navy and when summer time comes around and reservist come everyone in my command talks shit. They come here for two weeks, retrain on shit they've drilled on multiple times before, suck ass at it, break our vehicles, and leave after the two weeks just to forget everything they've learned.
Can't speak for the other branches but for the navy,
Reservist are a waste
Reservist are a mess
>>30207434
But from the other angle, don't they get the best of both worlds?
Not be moving around every few months, get to have a real job and house, enjoy their wife, and get to play soldier from time to time?
>>30206833
>The only people that rarely see action is the Army
What am I even reading.
Holy shit, /k/ is terrible.
The army is currently seeing more action than any other branch. Marines are doing almost nothing.
I'm being trolled, aren't I?
>>30206876
Complete bullshit. Tons of government computer nerds are former potheads. Clearance investigators don't care if you did drugs as long as you don't lie about it.
>>30207552
Yes, anon is aware that the Army is seeing much more action than the Marines. Way to get baited.
>>30202630
Enjoy reading maps- er, charts.
>>30207479
Reservists try to play it as
>I have a six figure job and a hot wife, the reserves let me jump out of airplanes and shit on the weekends.
When the reality is:
>I work at a grocery store and can't get laid. Going active duty would be a huge pay bump. 95% of my time in uniform is spent keeping up with mandatory PowerPoint training.
Reservists don't spend their little bits of military time doing cool military shit, it's 100% packed with three mandatory bullshit training that active guys spread out throughout the year. Reservists still have to do it all, but they have to do it all at once.
>>30199853
IDF or FFL? help me /k/omrades I got a year and a half delay for my draft(I'm from kikestan) and the thought of joining the FFL and finally doing something with my life, and making something worthwhile out of myself doesn't leave my mind. The big question is it really worth it or I just bought into the memes about the legion being a great place to burry my past in the ground and get out of it as a new man with all the fat burnt off of my soul?
>>30207678
Despite the romanticized image of the legion being a place that accepts all the dregs of society who want a new start, it is actually very difficult to get in. The selection process leaves around 7/8 of applicants rejected. Theyre spoiled for choice, and they know that 1st world guys looking for "adventure" are by far the most likely to desert when they realize life in the FFL isn't the rugged coolguy experience they expected.
So if you're going to join, make sure you're the best possible candidate they could desire, cause theres a whole lot of africans/asians who have literally no other option and are higher on the Legion's list than you.
As much as I politically disagree with Israel and the actions of the IDF, nobody can deny that its a formidable military organization, and you will probably find what youre looking for there just as much as the FFL, without the need to sign a 5yr contract that leaves deserting as the only option if you get tired of rearranging rocks outside your barracks.
>>30205662
Army, Combat Engineer with ACISS and Intel as backups
>>30208407
What is ACISS?
I've been undecided about what I'd like to do myself, but combat engineer sounds really good.
>>30207653
The mad as fuck at reservists meme...
I was in those shoes before. Pretending like the personal life of a reservist is terrible makes you feel better about being active right out of high school and wasting the first 4-8 years of your adult life sitting around doing retard work, not being able to go to college full time due to working 14 hours a day.
In a couple years when you aren't main-lining the kool aid you'll be talking about how you should have done the reserves. Being active definitely helps you if you were lazy in high school and have no direction in life, but I wouldn't recommend it if you have any other prospects to follow.
>>30206868
If you lie on your initial enlistment they'll know about it when getting your ts and disqualify you.
>>30208899
Army Communication and Information Systems Specialist aka radioman.
>>30207653
>>I have a six figure job and a hot wife
Which MOS is this? I'd like to sign up for that one plz.
>>30206868
Correct.
>>30208975
Oh ok
So, just curious and I figure this is the place to ask, who actually makes the tactical decisions at a higher level?
As in, 'Alright so Russia has invaded Poland. We need to move this batalion here to cut off their supply, move this division here to defend Warsaw...'
All that stuff. Who actual comes up with that?
Also, everyone talk about MOSes from the enlisted and junior officer side. What about higher ranking officers? Would Stanley McChrystal still be a, 11A or whatever?
>>30207653
As former active turned Nasty Girl I'm like 50/50 on agreeing with you.
>>30208985
He is talking about reservists who have a civilian job, tard.
>>30209016
First question is stupid.
The answer to the second one is that commanders/OICs/whatever have different MOS designations from the same field. Kind of a stupid question too, but I can see that being confusing for someone who has never served.
The recruiter will be here to pick me up in an hour. I ship out for Navy basic tomorrow.
>>30209363
Good luck, anon!
>>30199945
>Navy enlisted fag here
Any word on how it went?
Just got back from Marine Corps Recruiter..
>tfw they said the soonest they can take me is next year
H-hold me bros
>>30209370
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>>30205658
thats fuckin bullshit anon. I got classed colorblind when I went in too anon. I transferred from SN to the AG rate which is one of those jobs that you cannot get if you are color blind. I would fight that shit. Theres gotta be another test you can do.
>>30209396
Was anything wrong (too young, picked a ridiculously small/selective job, etc.) or is there really that much of a backlog?
>>30209446
Nope nothing wrong.. Met the height and weight standards did the pullups and everything.. So I guess there is that much backlog
Anyone know much about being a 91E in the army? Seems like I could get in as an E-4 through the Army Civilian Aquired Skills Program, since I just graduated from a machining program with an Associate's.
>>30209396
Brutal. I had to wait like 15 months, but I was still in high school.
My advice would be to take classes at a community college. If you're in a non-retard mos it will be extremely difficult to get your brain back into learning mode after sitting around for that long... it would suck to rock out and get stuck as an admin guy or something.
>>30210362
Going along with this, the USMC might be the worst about this among the branches, but with 12 or 15 credit hours they'll start you out at E-2. They don't go higher like every other branch, but it's something.
>>30208902
I don't really have any reason to be bitter as active duty, anon. I make solid money (75k range), have great job security, and even get to do my job every so often.
Fact is, I'm 26 and most households in America make less than I do on my own. Odds are whatever civilian job I could get wouldn't shell out that kind of money since I don't have my degree yet.
Of all of the reservists I went to training with, maybe two are actually doing better than I am. Most are still entry-level in their careers after going to college, and a large minority are kicking around dead-end jobs because they never went to college.
>>30210064
Don't know anything about 91E specifically, but even if the ACASP thing falls through you can come in as an E3 in any job for having your Associate's.
>>30209016
They're called "General" officers for a reason. Once you get to the O7+ ranks, you don't belong to a basic branch anymore, you become a general(ist) officer.
Officers at that level are essentially CEOs, they're so far away from any hands-on work that it doesn't make sense to classify them as belonging to a specific job field.
what are the curves like on the ASVAB
any idea of an estimation of how many questions I can miss and still get a high percentile score?
i don't want to fuck up on some math problem or get some weird word definition
>>30210871
Gonna have to call bullshit unless you can break down the math for me. Since you're not an officer and you're only 26, so you're probably an e6 unless you're a shitbag, you'd have to be either in san francisco or new your to come anywhere close to $70000.
If that is the case then making slightly more than the median income but living in areas of the US that have the highest cost of living out of the nation is nothing to be bragging about.
>>30211148
> you'd have to be either in san francisco or new your to come anywhere close to $70000.
Not really. 3.3k base pay puts me right at 40k base. Add in $350/mo special pay, I'm at around 44k. Add in another $360~ a month and I'm at around 48k. I'm not in an extremely expensive area, I get 1500/mo in BAH, that's 18k/yr. Total yearly in paychecks: a hair under $67,000, in an area where the median income is far below that.
But oh wait, Uncle Sam thinks I only make around $44,000 minus my retirement contributions, so I get taxed way less than any of the civvies around here making what I do. Plus I have burnt my entire TA almost every year I've been in (should have my BA next year) for around $4k more untaxed benefits. I also get no-cost healthcare for me and the wife.
Bottom line?
I'd be taking a pay cut if I went and worked a civilian job around here for anything less than $85k~, easily. National median wage for a household is around 51k.
If I was in San Francisco I'd be pulling north of $4k BAH. That would be $30,000 more. I'd easily be breaking six figures after everything (and I'd have to, if I wanted to live in the Bay area).
>>30211510
Whoops, forgot to point out that the second $360/mo is BAS.
This is also not counting re-up bonuses. They're definitely available in my job field, but I don't think that's really fair to lump into the overall equation.
>>30211510
K, figured that there was no way you were at 75k.
I also don't count ta since dod civs and acqdemos rate it as well. I also got reimbursement at around $5000 when I worked for small private companies so i consider it moot since it is practically a given these days.
>>30211574
Tax advantage is worth about $4k on its own, even if you value all of the not-on-paycheck benefits (education, healthcare, etc) at $0.
Is there any sort of tier list on Navy jobs, like I just want to know what jobs don't suck ass and what would be considered good jobs. I'm signed on as an AE/AT but since my ship date won't be for a long while they ask me about shipping earlier and giving me some other jobs I don't know are good or not. AV worth just waiting it out?
>>30212199
u shud b a navy walrus
walrus is top tier
walrus team lead the way HOORAH
Daily reminder dont be a korean linguist if you enjoy sanity.
>>30212765
A linguist bitching to combat arms about their hard life is basically like when college students travel to rural Africa and complain about physics class.
It must be hard to sit in your air conditioned office and dry your tears with your extra language pay.
>>30212850
Lol we dont get language pay until we graduate. Also, learning a cat IV language in 64 weeks is a lot harder than it seems. Come try it :^)
>>30212865
Oh, so you aren't actually a linguist? You're a student in sunny Monterrey California?
Want to know a secret? Initial job training sucks regardless of job/branch. The difference is you're in fucking Cali, in a job field with a *much* more favorable male/female ratio than most. Linguist students study in a comfortable classroom all week, and then get drunk and fuck eachother all weekend. Yes, life is hard amongst the legions of 18-23 year old girls who spend all week pent up and frustrated, truly you have my sympathy.
Every other training course? You're sweating your balls off and getting shit on all day, then restricted to the barracks for most of the course.
Circlejerk all you want with your roommates about how hard life is, but you probably won't ever really appreciate how awesome Monterrey is until you're long gone.
Most of the rest of the military could not give any less fucks about how hard you think DLI is, and would trade places with you in a second.
>>30207653
>mothers friend has husband in the reserves
>he's a train mechanic
>his wife is a dr
>they have 4 kids
>he was deployed inna sandbox
I'm a New Zealand citizen who is getting closer and closer to join the military. Problem is our military sucks and just does aid work on Pacific islands. Does anyone know if it is possible for me to join a decent military - say the US or UK?
>>30205023
So I got the address mixed up and went to the wrong place. I called up my recruiter and left a voicemail saying so and i'll be a few minutes late (I assumed he busy talking with someone else). I get there, like 5 minutes late, and no one is in. I call up and his phone rings inside the office. Shit. Get back in my car (maybe he's out eating). wait around for and i see another kid walk up to the office try the door and then wait outside. 40 minutes i wait for this guy and i see and air force guy pull up, the aforementioned kid hops in and they take off (meps? idk). i go back up to the office and talk to the army guy their and he gives me my recruiter's cell and i call him.
>Hey its anon we had an appointment at 4:00
>Oh hey, ya i tried to call you
>he didnt
>oh ya okay well are we meeting today?
>oh well i'm out right now, i'm actually at the gas station down the street
>cool i can wait a few more minutes
>actually i gotta do paper work, tell you what we can reschedule as soon as friday
>cant do those days because work, how about next tuesday?
>Sure sure, text me and i'll put you in
i text him and still no response
What is this guy playing at? i know recruiters can be shitty and the af is hurting for recruits but is this normal?
>be me
>dead end job
>going nowhere in life
>decide to change things
>thinking of joining the muhreens
I have no idea why I'm really doing it. I mean, I've been a loser all my life for the most part, and I think it's my way of proving to myself and others (mostly myself) that I'm not a total failure at life. I've been working on getting back in shape for a number of reasons, but this is obviously one of them. I'm going to see a marine recruiter later this week. What should I expect? I know he's going to try to sucker me in, which is why i came here first. Is he going to do a poly test on the spot as well? I never knew the military did those at all unless you're going for sf or some secret shit in general.
>>30212199
Yo if you are still here there are a few site i can link, im navy vet so i can prob answer some questions although i dont know to much about aviation rates.
>>30213071
Yeah, aircraft armament systems was kinda the same. You spent all week taking apart bombs and putting them back together, and by the weekend you'd have the females knocking on the doors of the guys they thought were cute and fucking them.
The dorms were a fuckhouse. Each girl had like, a type, you know? So I probably burnt through over a dozen women while I was there, same with a few other guys. The tinier, more manet guys didn't get so lucky but they still got plenty.
To this day I still can't date military women, AFSC school ruined it for me
>>30213410
I'm not the anon you were replying to but 'do be interested in looking at those sites.
>>30213634
Ok, this site is pretty good.
https://www.navycs.com/navy-jobs/
You got any rates in mind?
>>30213301
>Is he going to do a poly test on the spot as well?
what the fuck
just go talk to him its not that hard
Heading to MEPS for the Air Force next week.
If I'm single would a motorcycle be a good choice in the military? I'm thinking about a super moto/ enduro.
Is there a reason I should get a car over a motorcycle?
i have a small penis
will this disqualify me from joining the marineS?
redpill me on USMC comms, im back and forth between intel and comms or something completely different like electric maintenance
>>30214017
I'm not concerned, I'm just curious as to how long and what I should bring if
Anything. Like I said, I still have a dead end job to work in the meantime.
>>30214027
>If I'm single would a motorcycle be a good choice in the military?
Absolutely, super easy to get around plus saves on gas. Only reason it could be tough is if you get stuck somewhere where is rains or is cold frequently. I was in San Diego for 3 years so it was perfect weather everyday senpai.
>>30214037
>disqualify me from joining the marineS?
If any thing youre more qualified for the marines now.
>>30214109
Here an idea, cal him and ask. Dont just show up thats un professional plus the place could be empty cause they are out of they may be busy. Call and make an appointment and ask "hey should i bring anything?"
>>30214042
The 5900 field is brutal. You work long hours and half of the people there are knob gobblers who will hide from their responsibilities so you do their share of the work as well.
0651s all seem to be manlets. Also, their school doesn't teach by any internationally recognized standard like the air force comm schools do so they can't sit for any certs at the end of it.
Honestly it is a case of picking your poison. I was a 5942 and the mos got me a decent job that I made a good amount of money on during college. The Marine Corps in general kinda sucks, I wouldn't recommend it if your aspirations are purely to advance your civilian goals.
How does leave work?
If I'm going to be stuck in some lousy state for my first service station, I'd like to take time off to go hunting once in a while.
>>30213945
Not really, but I'll take a look and see if anything catches my eye.
>>30214319
Depends on your unit. Mine you pretty much just ask at least 2 weeks out and get it approved. Some units you can only take leave during certain times of the year.
You get 30 days of leave per year. Unlike civilian time off, they'll count weekends unless you sign back in and start a new period of leave.
>>30214319
You get 2.5 days per month. If something important is happening around the time you want to go on leave, it will get denied.
Generally, for most retard jobs they allow leave at any time since anyone can step in and do any other person's job.
>>30214319
You write a leave chit, its gets approved or denied, you go one leave. End of story
>>30214327
Think about what you would like doing. What are your interests, stuff like that. That will narrow it down.
>>30204341
TS fag here, MEPS is nothing like a TS screening.
At BMT can I write letters to someone in Poland?
so whats the rule about painting your helmet, full metal jacket style?
>>30214688
lol
>>30214037
You get an extra three inches issued
>>30214111
Yeah, but they'll make him wear stupid shit on his bike.
>>30214752
I don't mind wearing the reflective vest and shit on base or whatever. Would they make me wear it off base too?
>>30214715
im serious fuck wad
ive seen some painted helmets i was wondering if its even allowed
>>30214752
>Yeah, but they'll make him wear stupid shit on his bike.
It aint that bad
>>30214814
>Would they make me wear it off base too?
Technically yes when in uniform but otherwise youre fine. Trust me having a bike to get to work on is great. Traffic bottle necks like crazy in the morning but on a bike you can white line and cut through.
What are the chances of me being able to reenlist with a #3 reentry code?
will the recruiters see my penis when I shower in bootcamp?
>>30214820
Lol
>>30215044
>recruiter
>boot camp
Bunch of dumb faggots tonight.
>>30215076
will the drill sergeant see my penis?
Will they make fun of me if I have a boner?
>>30215123
Jesus I would follow Bill into battle, what a majestic beast
>>30214899
You have to try and get a waiver.
How'd you get the 3?
>>30215123
Hilary was an unfackable hag even then.
>>30215044
>>30215123
Why do you faggots keep asking this? Its not even funny.
>>30214109
>>30213301
Do you want to do military intelligence or some other MOS that would require TS clearance? If you aren't, don't worry about a poly.
>>30215588
If anything I was thinking just something infantry related. Machine gunner, or something like that. Maybe try out for sniper school or something, but I doubt I'll be able to pull anything like that off. I don't have that much confidence in myslef.
>>30215044
Your going to take shits next to 20 other men, you will hear everybody farts and turds splashing, and they will hear and smell yours.
>mfw
>theres a chance i could be in the military under Hillary Shiton
>i will never be a Trump Space Marine
holy fuck im scared
>>30215707
You sound like you have a hint of depression and confidence issues, anon. The military might not be for you, bud. At least not until you learn to love yourself a little more as lame as that may sound. If you do decide to join the Corps, anon. Keep these things in mind.
>your drill instructors are going to treat you like shit, but it's all just a test to see if you can handle it
>they will train you even after you give up on yourself (it's in their speech the give your group. They take it seriously.)
>this is up to a point. If you just don't get it, you'll be booted. Remember no matter what you do inside or outside of the military.
>never give up.
>NEVER GIVE UP
>NEVER
>GIVE
>Up
>>30214752
They never said where they're gonna put those three inches ;)
>>30215866
This.
I've always wanted to join...
Now I'm just waiting for Trump to win.
And if he doesn't, It's going to be a tough choice.
hey guys im the 240 pound guy who posted a couple days ago
I only need to lose an inch and a half off my waist and im good. im doing cardio and shortened my diet to 1000 calories a day
>>30215866
>file name
lel
>>30215866
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html
>Hillary was a hawk during her SecState career
>idiots on 4chains still think she's gonna gut the .mil
Fucking uneducated memeing cunts
>>30205032
>I haven't smoked in like 10 months - 1 year and the only reason I smoked the last time was because I was at a party and drunk...
Holy fuck you are paranoid.
Up until 1.5 months before I went to MEPS I smoked nearly every single fucking day, didn't work out very much and didn't flush my system. I passed the drug test though I have to admit I was sweating the entire time out of fear.
Help me decide /k/
11B, 68W or 19K.
Here are the reasons they are all equal in my book
>11B
Classic, good chance for advancement, qualified for the Rangers with this MOS, get to be an actual soldier
>68W
Good training, Qualified for Rangers, Still get to run around with the Infantry, much needed and respected MOS. The only downside is that I am not at all a very compassionate or caring person. I have virtually no bed side manner, though I'm sure it would be a lot different if it was my brothers in arms
>19K
Because Abrams are fucking awesome. No chance for advancement, No chance in hell to be a Ranger but... Abrams are fucking awesome.
They are equal and I can't choose. Got an 85 on my ASVAB for the record so none of these are a problem to acquire.
>>30215866
she'll definitely use the military for "peace keeping" in valuable countries
>>30217289
Disregard 11B, unless watering rocks and mopping rain includes actual soldiering. These are not memes, you will be dealing with slightly less bullshit than MP's and SecFor, but only by a little.
>>30217735
They do do training, and it is still pipeline for rangers and whatnot.
>>30217289
The amount of shit you don't know, but think you know had given me an erection.
Anybody have any experience with getting mental waivers or broaching that subject with recruiters?
Context is I was misdiagnosed for severe depression, and I'm wondering if other than re seeing a mental health professional to get myself cleared up there's any other way to cover my ass. I'm going for something requiring a TS so no "what medical records" for me.
>>30217743
>pipeline
It not a "pipeline" at all. You can try out sure but a pipeline implys you have to do it.
>>30217768
Ignorance is truly bliss
>>30217768
I only know what I've been told and read on army forums. Duh.
If I was a soldier and knew this shit already then why would I be asking? I hope you aren't in the army because you sound too retarded to even wash a uniform.
>>30215883
>not much confidence =depression and you shouldn't join
MEPS detected, but really, that's a pretty harsh assessment based on a vague comment.
>>30216934
I would think that 90% of people spend their time in an echo chamber of whichever side they identify with.
Also...
>expecting a thread full of ~16 year old high school kids and ~19 year old military kool aid chuggers to be intelligent
I recently got a job on an air force base.
Is it just me or do air force guys have a massive inferiority complex when it comes to absolutely everything?
Dealing with people from other branches, civilian priors from other branches, civilian counterparts... it seems like they are always trying to talk down everything.
>>30217883
>says he has dead end job and is going nowhere in life.
I can't think of too many people that are happy about that.
>going nowhere
This kills the confidence, without self esteem, one tends to get a little depressed. It's simple deductive reasoning.
Heya, /k/. Just got my first set of orders. Any fellow squids been to the USS Abe Lincon in the past year or so? How is it? Does Norfolk suck as bad as everyone says? Do carriers suck as bas as some people say?
>>30218477
Rate? My lpo im sitting right in front of right now wife was on that ship. He said it was actually pretty nice unless you were in engineering or in the deck department.
>>30218494
IT, straight outa A Schook
>>30218516
You shouls have it pretty nice. No nigger work ac spaces ect.
>>30213301
>total loser in life seeking validation by joining the Corps
The quintessential Marine.
I have a couple Air Force questions.
-Can you write letters at BMT to other countries?
-When do you move out of the dorms and get BAH? I've heard SrA and Staff, but I'm not sure
-What are the best Open categories to put down if I want a cushy job? I'm thinking Admin and Electrical
>>30218494
what about for nuke officers?
>19
>studying electrical engineering
>don't know what to do with the degree when I graduate
>dad recommends joining the Navy
I now have an interest in doing so, but I don't know what kind of work is expected of an electrical engineer in the Navy.
>never been knowledgeable on military things
>inb4 read faq
I'm going to my Marine recruiter this Saturday and I'm gonna start with paperwork
I'm in pretty good shape ( in terms of strength, weight, etc ) but I have NEVER been good at running. Fuck I think I have a 10 minute mile at best. I think it's from years of lifting but I never did any sort of real endurance exercises.
I know I have about half a year before I ship so I need to start running. What do you guys recommend? Daily running? How long? ETC ETC ETC. I'm practically clueless.
>>30200707
My friend (a qt3.14) went to boot camp yesterday to be a navy MP. How fucked is she?
>>30219825
Probably by every guy in her group. So, very adequately fucked, I'd wager.
>>30219825
Post a pic of her. Depending on that she may fend off thirsty fucks left and right in texas while she's trying to get rated.
>>30219858
>>30219856
>be me
>sister getting married (sorry bros)
>fiance's brother just graduated from USMC boot
>"Anon, USMCbooter wants to wear his dress blues to the wedding, can you wear yours, too?"
Fucking motarded little shithead wants to show off his National Defense medal. Should I do it? Have any of you guys worn your blues to a wedding?
>>30219888
She's a navy 8/10 l. Expect her to be pregnate within two months of her permanate duty station.
>>30206870
Mostly shitty records keeping
>>30219907
Icing on the cake is she's joining the navy to follow her dbag boyfriend
>>30219901
just seems like a shitbag move to do, its not their wedding its the groom and brides. unless its a mil wedding then whatever
>>30219901
Are you ashamed of being a Marine? Are you out and wanting to put it behind you?
These are questions that you should be asking yourself, not 4chan faggotanon.
>>30219818
Just run and do sprints.
I was pretty good at running naturally, but Google will give you all kinds of guides
>>30219888
Yep... she is going to have like ten dudes knocking on her door every night.
Advise her to not go out with groups of guys and to never be alone. There are a shitload of manchild spergs in the military and she will definitely get raped if one of them catches her in a vulnerable position.
Also, condoms. Because a male sperg trying to lock down a woman with a baby is also a thing.
>>30219818
Check the FAQ.
Also keep your steps at 180/min
>>30219818
Unless you've got supreme diet discipline then I'd switch over to only body weight exercises if I were you, doubly so if you're over six feet tall.
Unless you can run decently then you're seen as a piece of shit in the Marine Corps. It doesn't matter how good you are at your job, or most of the time even your rifle score - if you can't keep up in formation runs then you will never get put up on a promotion board.
>>30220195
That was my thinking, too.
>>30220272
Not Marine, still in. We're both in the wedding party, it just seems idiotic for us to be in uniform.
>>30219825
She's fucked, just now literally fucked as opposed to figuratively fucked by her horrendous career choice.
