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Is the average female soldier as good as an average male soldier?
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Is the average female soldier as good as an average male soldier?
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no.
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>>30180999
No, upside-down Satan.
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>>30180999
Is this another one of those threads that we all know the answer to but we get butthurt over it because we need another woman in the army thread?
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No.
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>>30180999
/\/()
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>>30180999
What a fucking dumb question.

I mean seriously, this might be THE dumbest question I've ever heard ever in my entire life.

My brother once asked me if vampires aren't visible in mirrors because they're pale and white colours reflects more light and I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that was 19 years ago, I've gone 19 years without ever seeing a question as dumb as that up until I stumbled upon this thread.

Take a wild fucking guess you utter gobshite.
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No.

That beeing said some females are a lot better than some men.
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>the average female soldier

You might want to change that to the "best female soldiers". Because the average female soldier has the life of a Jerry Springer episode, likely flunked the fuck out of college or has a worthless degree, and an even worse work ethic.

You are essentially comparing the average 30 year old who works at McDonalds to the average male soldiers of the world.
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Every day with these threads. We literally have someone try to start a discussion on the pro's and con's of females in the military every day.

Every

Single

Day
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>>30181047
Eh, if they can waste various nation's tax money everyday a random Chinese cartoon website can discuss every day.

Costs a lot less.
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>>30180999

No, not usually. And before any SJW jump on my ass, I'm coming at you with this:

I've been in the military for some time in a direct combat support job that is integrated. I have been attached to more than one type of unit.

While there are some females as capable as men, it is rare.

Even in my world of combat support, things like rucking, PT, warrior skills, etc are at least marginally important.

The physical, emotional and mental disposition of the average female doesn't lend as well to combat arms and combat support as compared to men.

Rear service support is where they need to be.
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>>30180999
No. Significantly inferior strength and endurance, higher injury rate, and terrible for unit cohesion.
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>>30181078
>SJW jump
They can't get off the ground.
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>>30181078
>Rear service support is where they need to be.
As a POG, no. They generally fuck things up, cause things to not get done, waste precious personnel slots in the unit, and generate drama back here too.
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>>30180999
>Is the average female soldier as good as an average male soldier?
no
>Is the average female soldier good enough?
probably
>Will there be more male than female soldiers in combat roles?
Yes

There's nothing you can do about it, so if you can't deal you might as well kill yourself. Most female soldiers will be more fit than 3/5ths of /k/ommandos anyway.
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>>30180999
>I don't know nothing about anatomy: the thread.
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>>30181222
I can admit /k/unts are fat subhumans.

But the average body shape of a military female is pic related. And they aren't shamed for it at all. Not by command. Not by their compatriots.
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>>30181108

Damn, anon.

>>30181148

I don't want them, there yours.
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>>30181318
>healthy at any size
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>>30180999
I just noticed she's wearing her diamond wedding-ring. Aren't you supposed to remove shit like that?
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>>30181047
Schools almost out so the girls who are about to graduate want to feel empowered before they join the army.
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O boy this thread again
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>>30181108
How does one get that fat? Just sitting around eating bonbons?
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Nope
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>>30181324
No, carry their rucks for them so we don't have them ruining things in the back shop. You want those air support strikes aimed properly, don't you?
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>>30181825

Fuck your shit, do not want.
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>>30181802
She's a "body positivity activist." She tells other fat unloved feminists that there is literally nothing wrong with being morbidly obese, and all the scientific literature about cardiac disease, arthritis, etc, is just propaganda written by the oppressive patriarchy. Google "Trigglypuff" or "The Triggering" and watch the full videos. It's hilarious. Also, read the Breitbart article where her friend tries to have the school punish the guy who recorded her. It's crazy.
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Basic physiology suggests the answer is no. However, that doesn't mean women can't be effective soldiers or that we shouldn't employ them in combat roles. The problem is that our female fighting force hasn't had the opportunity to gain experience through a real war. If we developed a culture of battle hardened women, I believe they could be very useful.
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>>30180999
>>30181014
3 nines should be called a Mozambique
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>>30181766
yes, "degloved finger"
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>>30180999
kys
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>>30180999
Anyone got a bigger pic of this?
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>>30181014
kek

kek <---this one

kek
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>>30181318
that's what an average desk jobber in the army looks like, m9.
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>>30182242
I think that this anon gets it. It ain't a physiological nor a biological thing, it's a cultural thing.

Which means, obviously, that /k/ needs to kidnap 200 baby girls and raise them innawoods to become expert soldiers/operators
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>>30183221
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>>30181028
\//\/
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>>30181033
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read, as well as completely fitting for such a stupid question
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>>30181108
Can't resist.
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>>30185244
That was probably the most physical activity she's done in years
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>>30182245
i like it
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>>30181766
Wrong hand and finger
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>>30180999
Yes and no. Depends.
Female have natural disadvantages when compared to man, but also few advantages, though not as prominent.
If used the correct way in the correct role, a female can be an effective soldier like a man would.
And yes, that's an extra hustle and resource spending (they even need special food to compensate for lower calcium density) that mostly doesn't worth it if your army isn't irrelevant (Sweden) or doesn't dosen't play a major social role in the country (Israel).
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>>30185244
Fuckin' saved
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>>30180999
No.
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>>30186216
>yes and no
>only lists negatives, no positives
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Ex ger army fag here.
I ve been a PzGren for 3 1/2years the "women" in our unit were this "crazy russian bearhugger" type of gals.
New women had to pass the required sports test for women the Day they arrived.
1 week later they got the male requirements as goals.

Some tried to bitch about it but our bearhugger's made short work of those. They either quit/ joined anpther unit or grew to be bearhuggers.

Without our tough girls they wouldve Gotten away with complaining ... but since a woman of the same ranks roughed them up they were ok with it.


The last half year i got transferred to a supply unit. Women there were either on pragnant leave, getting fucked by ungodly amounts of dicks in order to get preggo or just bitches who wouldnt Do shit.
You were better off ordering supplies from your CO than even try to get those cunts to Do their job.
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>>30186925
@ Not even the Most desperate neckbeard would touch those "girls" theyre menacing
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>>30180999
Yes female soldiers are superior in every way
10/10 Would operate in her ass OP
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>>30186925
huh so even in other countries the women are trying to get pregnant to get out of duty
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>>30180999
In combat situations they may be even better. Shot from a gun in baby's hands wound as heavy as any other. You don't need to be huge to hold a rifle either, in contrast being smaller is much better to be honest. People think that pulling your wounded friend out of hot zone happens all the time but it does not, and pulling someone would not be that overwhelming to anyone who can pass the average physical requirements.

In every other situation, which is what occupies 95% of any soldier's time like patrols, they are way worse. They don't have endurance or strength, and to get average male levels they need to work really hard.

So carry your shield maiden's burden, and she'd do wonders in battlefield.
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>>30186865
I'm glad that you got the point about this being possible but also too flawed in most cases to be realistic.
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>>30186960
Yes ... they get a shitload of benefits ... 1 of them had 4 children ... the first one after 1 year of service ... in 12 years she effectifely had 5 years off due to preggo and holidays... maybe more ..and in the end she still received full accomodation for 12 years ...
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>>30185244
>when you're screaming while holding shift too long
Feminazi Simulator 2016
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>>30180999
OT, but what is /k/'s opinion on crossing rivers like in OP? a chairforce friend thought it's counter-productive or some shit, any idea why?
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>>30180999
The story goes back to the caveman days.

Men had to work together. If they didn't, there would be no food and everyone would die.

Women had no dangers back home. If she starved, it wasn't of her doing. But there was the eternal competition for the most powerful dick. Hence why the quip and peck at each other.
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>>30180999
no, but their pussy can sure boost morale by 500%
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>>30187336
unless said pussy is recquisitioned for an SNCO's/officer's personal use, then again if that happens, you suffer from poor morale caused by shitty leadership anyway...
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>>30180999
No
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>>30185244
The fuck is this thing that I'm looking at?
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>>30180999
Can I ask what the fuck is being accomplished in that picture?
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>>30187540
crossing a body of water with a full pack without using a bridge or boat & without getting everything wet, Finnish Army practices it as well.
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>>30187540
No, you shut up and do it, and if you can't do it, we call you a bitch.
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>>30180999
The average Swedish male soldier may as well be a woman. They cannot compare to Danes, Finns and Norwegians.
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>>30187675
on that note,
>>30187324
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>>30187675
do they always strip down to their underwear 1st? if so, why stop at your underwear?
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>>30181108
Ok someone's gotta say it. That camera chick is hot as fuck.
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>>30187726
at least in Finland yes, no-one's going to stop you from swimming across fully clothed or fully nekkid though, it's just that no-one does it...
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>>30187732
7/10, have standards on the internet.
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>>30187744
Well let me out it this way, if she started flirting with me, if happily take it to the next level. sure there are hotter, but i smash that arse like it's made of glass. Also compared to the epileptic land whale behind her, she is a godess.
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>Someone posts pic of female person in uniform making a mistake
>FUCKING SJW
>WOMEN AREN'T CUT OUT FOR MILITARY SERVICE
>TRUMP16
>immidiate rage-fueld "discussion" on women in the military

>Someone posts a pic of male person in unform making mistake
>LOL
>What a fucktard
>look at dis dum faggit
>Oi I was dum faggit in the military too, look at me
>lets all post dumb stories and laugh together
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>>30186947
HE SURVIVED?
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>>30187777
back to your cuckshed
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>>30187777
How ya doin today plebbitor? Not enough upboats to make you happy today?
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>>30187777

>Can't handle the bantz: the post
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>>30187355
This. So in a purely practical way, pussy should not be integrated into the troops. Rather, let it be requisitioned from the local indigenous supplies.
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>>30187997
>indigenous
That's why America got aids you pleb
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>>30181766
>visible jewelry
This is a giveaway that we are looking at a staged photoshoot with a non-military female model. Also the fact that she isn't wearing a fucking top is also a red flag.
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>>30181222
>>Is the average female soldier good enough?
>probably

Probably not in reality, if you replaced all the men in the military with women effectiveness would be cut in half
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>>30187761
21 palms detected
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>>30180999
see pic op
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>>30189410
those guys better have gotten some ass...
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>>30189410
I can actually confirm this since I am working in an army trainning camp. There are always at least 1 "spotting partner" for every female trainee during any kind of exercises. The job of the "spotting partner" is to "help" the female "soldier" finish the task.
There was one time that burned right into my memory was during one weapon maintenance test where the trainee must strip the rifle all the way down to the nuts and bolts and put it all back again and able to fire it right after. The bitch start taking the rifle apart half way and threw a fit that "it was too hard" and made the spotting partner to finish stripping the weapon. When the weapon was completely taken apart and all parts lay out by the guy babysitting her, she picked up the barrel, play around with it a bit then threw another fit and demand the babysitting man to "help" her put it back together. Of cource the guy objects because it make no sense since it's her training and not his, so she went straight for the feminist card and threated him that she will tell on him to her "female section counselor". So he went full whatever mode and put the rifle back together and handed back to her to fire it as last part of the exercise, the bitch then said no and demand him to shoot it "because she don't trust that he did a good job putting the weapon back together and don't want it blow up on her."
Let's hope there won't be WW3 any time soon because the US army is not the same as back in WW2
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>>30187786
for the next few minutes maybe. i garantee that he has fatal bleeding
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>>30180999
Yes. There were female Vikings and beast female Soviet snipers.
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>>30181016

>we need another woman in the army

0/10
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>>30187777
checked, nice b8
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>>30186973
>would not be that overwhelming to anyone who can pass the average physical requirements.
so, not women then?
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>>30190060
But they do pass average physical requirements. They struggle and have to work out much harder than men yes, but they do.
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>>30189636
In what country's military does this fabricated story take place?
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>>30180999
yes, they're equally as good as getting drunk and wrecking shit as their male counterparts
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/us-navy-alcohol-ban-japan/index.html
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>>30190142
after the requirements are lowered to their level
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>>30189827
>another woman in the army thread?
>thread
>a thread about this topic

See pic related.
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>>30185347
source of gif? Google didn't help me
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>>30187777
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>>30190575
does this comic belongs in /aco and if yes where can i find it ?
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>>30187777
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>>30190601
No, it's not in /aco/

This is from Scott Pilgrim I think. I just got this from one of the gazillion posts that are on 4chan.
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>>30187777
Bernie Sanders is never going to be president.
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>>30187732
>>30187744
Maybe she looks hotter in comparison to trigglypuff
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>>30180999
No. Biological differences make it clear cut that men are better for pretty much every position, combat roles especially. While I'm sure that females do just fine in their roles in the military, their unfortunate shortcomings would most likely hamper the combat effectiveness of a unit. That's not to say there aren't a good number of physically an mentally able females who take their jobs seriously, but the actual amount is too unsubstantial to actually make up for the horror story females you hear about. Maybe in a few generations when people start raising their girls right, but until then, we're gonna have growing pains and dead soldiers.

TL;DR-
No. The average female soldier is objectively not as good as the average male soldier.
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>>30190580
search for "speedosausage"
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>>30190679
yeeah maybe I won't
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>>30190633
well i'll jerk off to something else tonight, thanks
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>>30180999
Not hardly.

In fact, many of the *best* female soldiers aren't as good as the average male soldier. And none of them compete with the top third of male soldiers.
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>>30190668
It also goes for any physical or even stressful job.

Law Enforcement, Firefighters, and EMS/T's all have female co-worker horror stories. Myself included.

I know female cops who are AWESOME at their job, but have to put forth way more effort than any guy would need to in order to be good at their job.

Then I know the chick that loaded her magazines...backwards. And went to work like that for 3 days.
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>>30190699
>yeeah maybe I won't
That's the name of the animator. Do you want your crudely animated shit-tier anime parody porn or not?
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>>30190729
>Then I know the chick that loaded her magazines...backwards. And went to work like that for 3 days.
How the fuck would you even accomplish that? Had she never even seen anything remotely similar to what she was issued in any type of popular media?
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>>30189814
>female Vikings
No actually, the shield maiden meme is not substantiated by independent sources. Most females with the Vikings where there for womanly things, like cooking and cleaning after the soldiers, as well as many being wives of the men.

>beast women
I assume you're talking about the guals and shit. They where not warriors, they would strip on the battlefield to encourage the men to fight on to save those bodies.

>Soviets
Because the men where all dead. Most of them where propaganda figures, see the night witches who had very few military accomplishments, but where celebrated highly. The female snipers where almost immediately abandoned once the Soviets where on the offensive.
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>>30190751
Well. She was in the police academy with me and had previously worked at the Sheriff's office as a jailer.

Several other people who worked with her attended the same academy. And none of them liked her. I never knew why until we went to the gun range for the first time and people were literally saying "I will not be anywhere near her."

When she was hired as a jailer they held her hand through firearms training and she never really cared to educate herself. So one day, the guy I asked "Hey why is everyone afaraid of her?" Told me she loaded her magazines with the bullets facing backwards and jammed them up into her gun and got them stuck. Which to hr I guess meant "Ok! It worked!".

Basically...she was so bad in training that they let her slide through because of the whole racial equality thing...and her husband being a Lieutenant.
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>>30183316

i like this idea.

this is a good idea.
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>>30189814
>Female Vikings

Viking was a broad term you know. And Females were usually wives of men who went on the long trips with them. Vikings were not only warriors but many of them were just traders who never saw any combat, along with their families. And even if you believe that their wives went to battle with them, the women didn't do much fighting, if any.

The only society that semi-regularly employed females in war were the Celts. But even the Celts made most females act as archers or slingers. And that as because the Celt were ok with having women in those roles because it meant they could have more men up front with spears, axes, and swords.

Women were trained by both the Celts and Germanic tribes to fight. But that was not really because they planned for women to be out fighting as a rule. Hell, the Celts had females teaching men to fight (Scathah) And some of them went into battle as well. But they were like Brianne of Tarth, and were NOT average women. And in many of the documented cases of women fighting, it was under dire circumstances, like their homes being burnt the fuck down and shit.

>Beast Soviet Snipers

Beast is debatable. And Soviets didn't exactly use Snipers the way you'd imagine a "Beast sniper"


Point is, women CAN fight.
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>>30189814
>ham beast female Soviet snipers

fixed
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>>30190370
>feminist damage controlling
it's funny how the feminist thinks they actually can do things like they thinks
see pic
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>>30190875
> "YOU'RE IN MY KITCHEN NOW MOTHERFUCKER"
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>>30191133
That was essentially where they were trained to fight. Jokes aside. Women basically came into play when the enemy made it onto their turf, and a big army was needed quickly.

Minus the Celts who had women in more or less, dedicated roles (as dedicated as they got, since the bulk their military was just "OY CALLUM GIT YER FUKKIN SWORD M8!, TELL YER FUCKIN BROAD TO GIT HER FUCKING BOW TOO! LOTS OF THEM SHORT GREASY FELLAS FROM DOWN SOUTH A COMIN'")

BUT, as I said, women CAN Fight. But thye were obviously seen by even one of the most Female Friendly (using that term lightly.) cultures as reserved to certain roles in combat, or used during Zerg Rushes.
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>>30182205
The best part of the this was steven crowders rant
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>>30190107

is there a story to this?
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>>30191072
Because the "We Can Do It!" poster was created for an internal Westinghouse project, it did not become widely known until the 1980s, when it was rediscovered and used by advocates of women's equality in the workplace. In 1984, Doyle came across an article in Modern Maturity magazine which showed a photo of an unidentified young war worker at a turret lathe. In 1994, Doyle saw the "We Can Do It!" poster on the cover of the Smithsonian magazine. Doyle felt she recognized herself in both the photo and the poster[8] and in the 1990s communicated with historian and author Penny Colman of her connection to the photo and therefore to the poster.[9] News media outlets, upon Doyle's death, memorialized her as the model for the famous poster, without citing evidence beyond Doyle's assertions.[1][3][6][7][8][10] Doyle assumed that the photograph had inspired the poster.[2] Later evidence,[11] however, reveals that the press photo actually shows California war worker Naomi Parker, the photo taken at Naval Air Station Alameda in March 1942,[4][5][12] at a time when Doyle was attending high school.[2] Doyle did not claim to have met or sat for poster artist J. Howard Miller, but only to have been the woman depicted in this particular press photo.[6][9] The ACME Newspictures wire service image of Naomi Parker was used as the cover image for the Time-Life book The Patriotic Tide: 1940-1950 published in 1986.[10][13]
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>>30190729
Female firefighters are seriously the worst, if you are about to burn to death pray that its not a woman that's a going to struggle to drag you a meter or two before she gives up and leaves you behind
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>>30186973

You're the most obvious never-served in the history of the board.
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>>30186973
Look, it's another summer.
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>>30180999
The average female soldier isn't even better looking than average male soldier. Most are nasty skanks.
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>>30190654
Doesn't look like it now
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>>30190654
How's that hindsight feel?
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>>30195081
>implying it wasnt obvious from the very beginning

politics in usa, how does it work?
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>>30186973
>virgin
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>>30180999
No unless the physical standards are made the same.
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>>30190107
Why the fuck did they ever give this person a live grenade?
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>>30191605
Do you really need one?
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>>30185244
Trigglypuff used flail
Room fills with pitsmell
Everyone faints
Trigglypuff gained 24exp
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>>30187777
massive waste of quads. go choke on your own shit and die you fucking cunt
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>>30183280
That's a Marine.
>Semper Fatdelus
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>>30181222
how many women do you know(>implying) that can even do one push up? i bet it's less than %10
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>>30183316
>It ain't a physiological nor a biological thing, it's a cultural thing.
right, it must just be coincidence that until very recently every culture in the world except for a tiny fucking tribe in africa never had women as warriors
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the soviets made good use of them being snipers,tank and aa crew and night pilots
but for frontline troops,nah
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>>30180999
the 19th amendment was a mistake
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>>30196933
the second amendment was a mistake imho.
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>>30196952
you're right, all rights should only apply to white, landowning men.
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>>30180999
most soldiers never do anything, why does it matter what gender they are?
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>>30181089
>handgrip strength
That's what we got tools for m8 or do soldiers strangle each other on the battlefield?
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At the end of our basic, we had to take a physical fitness test - 2 minutes of pushups, 2 minutes of situps and a 3200m (2 mile) run. Nevermind that the standards for women were absurdly low (45 pushpus for men to pass, 25 for women), but what really pissed me (and most of the guys) off is that the special snowflakes only ran 2400m, not the full 3200m, and they all passed the test with flying colours. After carrying their packs for 3 months, and them being driven in jeeps what we had to march, we all called bullshit, but the NCO's said it was a "honest mistake at counting the laps". Bull-fucking-shit.
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>>30197174
Fuck, what country?
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>>30197174
This. The special treatment bullshit needs to stop.
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>>30191605
>is there a story to this?
yes it's called "women in combat roles.gif"
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Femitard here. And no, Even a strong woman would be sub par compared to the average male soldier.

Unless you're big bertha and weigh 200+pounds of pure feminine muscle you shouldn't even bother trying to get in. At best you'll fail to meet requirements and at worst the standards will be deliberately lowered for you because "muh equality". Do you really want to make the armed forces as a whole weaker simply so you can pretend like you're helping?
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>>30196856
Pull ups really seem to kill them too
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>>30187732

I love the little flick thing chicks do to the sides of their eyes with makeup, like this camera did does.
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>>30200044
>Marine Recruit Haley Evans
Man she's a qt. Would definitely cuddle with inna foxhole and steal her MREs to bully her
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Who the fuck keeps posting this?
No
No
No no no
No no no no
Fuck no

Not a mental thing. Their physically not able to do the same.... I'm not saying their weak of heart or even week in body, Some are great athletes. I'm say THEY PHYSICALLY CANNOT TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PUNISHMENT THAT MEN CAN. Fucking genetics man.
Seen it first hand. And every single test out there has shone the same results.
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>>30181318
That bitch was a goddamn legend on Pendleton. Was on limited duty for a new "injury" every month so she didnt have to pt. Got njped and ad sepd eventually.
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>>30196856
Pushups aren't that hard, women can do them with a little training
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>>30187777
>those quads
>wasted on a retarded anon

Why even live.
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>>30200491
limdu periods last longer than 1 month though and if she was on more than 2 it would have been medically separated unless it was proven to be malingering
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>>30180999
No
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>>30187786

I'm glad I wasn't the only person that saw that, he even actively stood the fuck up.

What was in that missile? Minnows?
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>>30187786
He's moving, he might have too much internal damage to survive
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>>30201579
I meant light duty, my bad. And with limited duty you have to face med board, which that bitch did not impressed. Anyway you know what I fucking meant.
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>>30190580
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/638741
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>>30186947
Why does it look like the missile is so slow? Just perspective?
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>>30180999
...no ?

But an apex alpha female soldier CAN be better than a sloppy shitty male soldier.

But generally.. theyre laughable
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