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Do Eagle SPC hold up to modern Plate carriers?
Because the LBT 6094s ain't cutting it for me.
I've been looking at
mayflower APC & velocity systems SCARAB Light
I'm up for any recommendations
>>30165628
There are comfier, lighter, feature packed (swift clips, 6/12, tubes, intergral pouches) and cheaper plate carriers abound. But the eagle is still damn good
got around to buying a source patrol pack so I'm ditching my back mounted IFAK and hydration. adding a baofeng also.
>>30165668
I hear you. but I've heard enough people blow smoke up the PC's ass, that its got me intrigued enough to just see how much I hate it.
>>30165688
You could always drop some shit to your belt
I used to think I was gonna mounting everything on my plate carriers like I did on itovs, but pc's are too small and sit too high for that shit
>>30165693
Isn't it marine standard issue
>>30165725
>Isn't it marine standard issue
I thought they were rotating it out.
>>30165725
I need a good pack for camping/BoB anyways so I can always drop the pack and go lightweight if I want. I know /gq/ loves battle belts but I get annoyed by a bunch of stuff hanging off my belt.
>>30165748
It's the piece of equipment I use the most when I go innawoods. But I got dat ass and dem hips, so belt's fucking easy to carry
what if I run carrier+plates in plaid and jeans? Would I finally become hipsterman?
>>30165790
yeah I'm like a frog walking upright, no ass. probably why I don't like them much.
>>30165797
If that's a actually your planned kit, you need new mag pouches that'll take 7.62
And get something that's 4 molle collums wide or shorter to keep your two part cummerbund a two part cummerbund
And don't wear that fucking night cap. Get a damn bump helmet at the least, or splurge for ballistic.
>>30165810
nah, it's just an image I made for another thread.
Actually, I am now trying to find that pair of jeans in my pic, I can't seem to remember where I pulled it from.
how crye JPC, good for operating with heavy loads(MG4, MAG 58 ammo) and sometimes without plates? is it comfortable with heavy backpack?
>>30165797
I would recommend some clothes with actual camo. Get some woodland at least.
What does /k/ recommend as far as personal radios go?
>Looking for a good holster for a battle belt.
>Having trouble finding anything for an M&P9L and X-300U besides custom kydex.
Are there any universal holsters that are actually worth it?
Mayflower APC, just what is the story on side plates? Are they able to take hard side plates or does it only fit soft side armor?
What duty belt will work with HSP mag carriers? Also who makes a solid OWB holster for said belt?
What do y'all do all geared up? Not trolling, genuinely curious. I think it'd be cool to get into gear stuff, but I don't really have a use for most of it I feel like.
>>30165868
/k/ is gonna recommend a Baofeng because that's all their willing to spend on a radio. If you ever argue that there are better radios out there they note that they can buy 4 chink radios for the cost of a good HT. Apparently it's better to have four shitty broken radios than one good one. Google is your friend on this front. Try to find Ham guys who are tacticool/preppers rather than preppers/mall ninja who bought the cheapest Ham they could find on Amazon.
>>30165936
Not really. Custom kydex is gonna be the way to go.
>>30166012
Some of us use it at work.
Some are preparing for SHTF.
Most of us just think cool shit is cool.
Hell, I took some stuff I had laying around to a con last month.
>>30166012
I have some woods I can go in where no one will bother me, and I practice "practical" shooting. Prone, behind cover, reloads, shooting on the move, control my rate of fire, IMTs, shit like that, I'll also, just put it on, take pictures of it because it's cool, or at least I think gear is cool.
Its like all hobbies, it can be a cheap thing to do every now and then, it can suck away half of your paycheck and eat up your weekends. But that's on you.
>>30165868
>>30166013
While your statement about the Baofengs being shitty is true, does the average /k/ommando really need something super fancy? I know I don't. I just need something that can hook into a PTT and pick up standard radio frequencies. I use mine when camping for weather updates as well as an emergency way to contact someone in case someone gets hurt. That's vital especially when I go out innadesert for shooting stuff because cell phone signal is super spotty out there. That's not to say there aren't vastly superior alternatives out there. They're definitely are. I just don't need something better than a baofeng for what I do.
>>30166035
I am kinda tempted to go all kitted out to a con I have today. But I would have to unload all my mags and I don't have an airshit AR to take with me. They certainly won't let me take my actual AR in.
how much of a fag am i for wanting this?
https://shop.jkarmy.com/ffi-woodland-camo-gen3-combat-set-ex-2016-edition-sbfr-m81-g3-gen-3-marsoc-raiders-style.html
havent really looked further so i cant say if the materials or the price tag is worth it
dammit i want old fashion tri-colors and marsoc feels. anyone help me out?
>>30166290
Git gud and find crye for a good price
>>30166013
>Not really. Custom kydex is gonna be the way to go.
Okay
>see pic related
>"Sorry anon, we don't have a mold for the 9L"
Life is suffering
>>30166218
Something fancy? No.
But they aren't good radios and aren't near as durable as one of the big companies HTs. To play with they're fine, but don't pretend they're a serious use radio that's somehow better than say a Yaesu, which most of the poorfags here legitimately claim.
>>30166392
Relax champ, Like I said they're are much better options than the Baofeng out there. No one is arguing against you. It's just for my needs, and probably a lot of other /k/ommandos, the Baofeng suits their needs for a low cost. I've brought mine out camping and shooting dozens of times. I haven't had issues with it. To each their own. Just because we all use a cheap radio doesn't mean there aren't better ones out there.
>>30166376
too poorfag here for the crye i figured i could buy more sets of the airshit for the cost of a crye top and bottom.
also is that tear in the right sleeve recent? how often you take yours innawoods?
>>30166434
he probably got it used, I saw some at defendwaifu
>>30166233
But have you STALKER inna bar on Halloween?
>>30166434
The tear and patch were on the shirt when i got it from the MARSOC guy who had it issued to him, I then used it for like three years playing bbwars and didn't put any more holes in it. Now it just sits in my room as part of my collection, I have other crye shirts I use now
Getting myself a digi flora plate carrier setup thanks to Russia bro and the state of the rubble.
>>30165936
Try here. They sell weapon light sized holsters. Link is for G21 because thats what I was looking at and I'm not going to do the work for you. Not sure if they have your gun
http://www.kt-mech.com/kt_akela/ak_G21.html
>>30165936
ez day
http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/OSL/OSL-Standard.html
>>30166666
nevermind wasn't easy they don't have the 9l
try raven concealment
>>30166233
They'll usually just keep your rifle at the security desk if they're not comfortable with it.
Thing is, most people just assume that a kitted-out autist at a weeb convention is just an airsofter. I've been able to keep my rifle and ammo at some of these cons because the security guy doesn't give a shit, he just hands you a ziptie to run through the magazine well.
>>30166694
Holy shit, that's actually a little scary. I don't need some autist able to bring a fucking rifle to a con because security is too dumb to check it.
>>30165868
Baofeng is the basic one that is entry level. They are compatible with Kenwood audio gear. They are not waterproof or weatherproof. They are not terribly durable. They need a programming cable.
My local PD gives them to retirees who volunteer for traffic control and event support.
I have a Yaesu FT-260. Waterproof, weatherproof, durable, can be easily programmed without a computer, and I can lock keys, PTT, and dial in any combo. You need to mod them with a solder trace cut to open their frequency range for transmission.
I also have a baofeng UV5R5 as a backup or loaner. Between the two, I pick the Yaesu every time. The Yaesu does cost 4x as much but it is worth it.
Grab a baofeng to cut your teeth on the basics of radio use and upgrade everything else and then go for a better radio unless you need a waterproof radio. Think of the baofeng as your first boyfriend, a learning experience that can be a pain in the ass. A better radio is like your first long-term boyfriend, less of a pain in the ass because you are used to it, things are less complicated, and the relationship is more durable.
>>30166807
>SHALL
>>30166807
Stop and ask yourself how many con goers are C&C?
>>30166807
>NOT
>>30166885
That's one thing. It's entirely different to sperg out and open carry a long gun in a public place.
>>30166895
>BE
>>30166916
>INFRINGED
>>30166914
>No one knows what it is
>It's costume appropriate
>Sperg
One of these things is not like the others.
>>30167103
uh...excuse me... its called COSPLAY NOT COSTUME
>>30166290
Flame resistant is good man, even if it's for airshit, the quality is probably better than surplus uniforms
>>30167414
>its called COSPLAY NOT COSTUME
Where the fuck does the 'Cos' in 'cosplay' come from, dumbass?
>>30166012
>What do y'all do all geared up?
Preparing for SHTF.
I'm ex-Army, so having some good gear to go along with my weapons makes sense.
You never know when you might need it.
At the very least everyone should have a chest rig to carry their ammo, water, and medical stuff, that is if you think you might ever need to actually use a rifle.
gear for me and pupper
>>30166012
I buy geared for a just in case type of deal, SHTF and I just like gear. it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it
>>30167565
do you have plates for the doggo? any pics?
desu I'd rather pupper be armored than you
>>30167565
How much weight can a decent-sized dog take anyway?
>>30166628
Thanks, these look pretty good
>>30167747
no plates for dogger. the actual .mil/leo vests/harnesses are crazy expensive
>>30167776
no idea, my dog is bretty small though
>>30167845
he looks very concerned in that picture
>>30167906
he's probably wondering why he's carrying a mag when he has no gun
>>30167906
i was holding a treat. she is very good about putting it on cause the only times she wears it is when we go innawoods
>>30167845
Obviously a dangerous attack dog that will maul babies in their cribs. There is no legitimate purpose for assault dogs on the streets of America. We need common sense dog control to keep these dogs out of the hands of top tier gear queers. We need regulations on how these dogs are kept and how much they fed.
I will be confiscating your dog for a through belly rub and butt scratches.
>>30167984
>Thorough
Damn auto correct and lazy proofreading.
>>30167984
watch out or she'll rip ya to shreads
>>30168009
shreds*. not sure why that a snuck in there
>>30167924
I choose to believe this answer, also concerned about the lack of plates.
Rate my load out
>AR15 8.5" barrel with Magpul AFG, MBUS, and EOTech SPS2-2, homemade can, upper and lower separated and rolled in Keffiyeh
>Jansport "Right Pack" suede bottom backpack
http://www.jansport.com/shop/en/jansport-us/all-backpacks/right-pack-backpack-typ7?variationId=008
Worn on my front when needed as "chest rig".
Main Pouch:
>the AR
>6 gen3 PMAGs with Maglink
>G17 sidearm on lanyard, 4 spare mags
smaller pouch
>Trauma kit: Israeli bandage, pressure dressing, QuikClot, syringe of adrenaline
>Disguise and disappear kit: sunglasses, hat, brightly colored/disarming shirt, $500 local cash, local bus/transit pass (trust me on that one).
>thin draw-string rucksack in case I'm picking up alot of something
>>30167565
>no IFAK
>no hydration
>pack attached directly to carrier even tho your "team" consists only of you and your doggo
lmao
>>30168222
Oh shit almost forgot kind the most important part lol
http://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/body-armor/delta-stand-alone-iii.html
This sewn/glued onto the backing
>>30168222
>eotech
consider getting the refund unless it stays warm where you live all year round
>no trauma shears
>only two bandages
>no smaller stuff like band aids and alcohol pads, etc
>syringe of adrenaline
literally what? do you mean an epipen? where did you get a "syringe" of epi?
>not level 4 ceramic
>no hydration
>backpack as a chest rig
whatareyoudoing/10
itt faggot kids playing dress up
>>30168310
Don't forget that he's using a fucking jansport as a pc.
>>30168310
Level III or IV are good to go. Don't forget IV is not always better than 3 on multishot rating.
>>30168253
take 4 10x12s and put them in the backpack. If shooting starts, turn your back to it and you'll be ok.
>>30168310
>consider getting the refund unless it stays warm where you live all year round
It does, and I'd only be outside with this setup for less than a few hours.
>where did you get a "syringe" of epi?
Give $400 to someone with a peanut allergy.
>No hydration
No food either, this isn't for long treks through the wilderness obviously.
Think about it: what are the benefits of having everything in a good non-autistic looking backpack, rather than looking like a fucking airsoft player? Can you imagine a situation where you might have to be around other people and not want them to think "Gee, that guy sure is ready to/just did shoot things"?
>>30168222
>8.5" 5.56 upper
Full fucking retard
>>30168406
>wearing a backpack backwards
>not autistic
>>30168406
I'd rather look scary than be unprepared if I'm in a fucking situation that I'm carrying a rifle, a few hundred rounds of ammo, and armor. It's not like you're just going for a stroll with your girl, or in your case, stud boyfriend.
>>30168406
>paid $400 for an epipen
unless you have a history of anaphylaxis why did you buy an epipen?
>don't need water
but that's wrong
if you're not preparing to go innawoods, or bug out, I'm not exactly sure what your preparing for
>>30168432
pretty much this
>>30168009
paint your dog camo
Would a less than $100 plate carrier be terrible quality? Do you have to pay $200-$300 for PC? I am not sure what I should look for.
>>30168604
With PC's you get what you pay for, $100 carriers like condor and whatnot are airsoft tier. The mayflower APC is legit and can be had for about $200. You can find a lot of different carriers on ebay.
>>30168604
ask yourself this, will you actually put plates in those carries and use them in a combat situation?
if no, does the quality really matter then?
>>30168653
If you're not gonna put plates in it, you might as well go for a chest rig with back panel
>>30168666
Do you have an example?
>>30168666
many proper chest rigs with back panels tend to be expensive tho.
I know some like to use a ballistic vest, and then have the chest rig over that, very good setup for versatile use.
>itt we post the same pictures we post every thread
>>30168816
anyone have any experience with these mag pouches? From Eagle Industries, seen them on some pics, but can't find much information about them.
Seems kinda cool, maybe a bit gimmicky, but still.
So if anyone is curious I ordered some pants from Tactical Distributor, they are their TD Carlos Ray Pants. They are pretty cheap range pants and come in some interesting colors.
From my pair I got I can say their fit is alot more baggy than what I was expected. I would recommend getting a size smaller, especially since they have spandex in them. The mag pockets work really well except for the left leg one which because of the baggy fit of the pants allow the mag to flop around like a flip hooker on shabu.
Overall I would get another pair but get them smaller (I usually wear 32x34 and would next time get 30x32)
>>30168816
Just for you.
>inb4 clean your room
Not my house.
>>30168250
Those are all wrong tho bb
>>30165797
it's fine just don't expect to hide from anyone.
>>30165797
dont use a american flag hat, use a regualy older baseball hat, sans any velcro.
>>30168919
Eagle makes quality shit
What is some good low profile plate carriers?
What are some good low profile plate carriers?
>>30165797
>skull crusher mount
Thank you for confirming that you own nothing pictured in that photo
>mfw Assad will crush the wahhabi dogs.
>>30165530
Why do you fags not also invest in a good bergen?
If you want to survive the happening, you'll need to store your survival gear and general food n shit.
>>30169056
prove it
>>30169573
Everything is in the bag and the bag is not connected to the pc. lrn2look
>>30169667
what IFAK gear do you have
>>30169683
Bunch of stuff letsgo gave me
>>30167534
you reminded me to ask: where can you procure Celox? I seem to remember some sketchy russian vendor...
In the meantime, what's the verdict on quikclot?
>>30169514
legitimate points
I keep 3 sizes of packs
>20L daypack
>40L overnight
>60L for long distance/term
All of these can be worn over my chest rig, and can even integrate with each other
>20L fits in the 60L and serves as a drop-in/out scout pack with nitty gritties (eg extra ammo, IFAK), the larger pack holds sustenance items like changes of clothes, tent, sleep stuff, actual food, etc
>>30165688
witness
That multicam on black(?) has really grown on me
That's gotta be just a deep ranger green though right?
>>30169772
meaning what/do you even know how to use it
>>30168642
Daily reminder I paid $275 for my siege R
>>30169790
multicam on mas grey
>>30169794
yes I can use it
>>30169816
>no I've never tried
might make sense reading the instructions now, but you'll want to know what you're doing if you or your buddy gets hit
>>30168666
Listen to Satan. He speaks truth
>>30168969
>taken Christmas day
Is there a story to this?
>>30169827
I took a first aid/cpr class and youtube makes things bretty easy
>>30169514
if only you knew how much money I invested in rucks.
>>30169849
>YouTube
Friend, go take a class at Insights Training Center. It will be worth it.
>>30169849
whatever, you'd be remise not to familiarize yourself with your medical gear considering
a. you've never managed a patient before
b. real life trauma is not the same as watching youtube videos about israeli bandages in between shitposts on an outdated nepalese rug weaving forum
>>30169790
Quick clot is a inexpensive piece for my ifak. I'm not a professional doctor and it's all i trust myself with to be fair
>>30169790
>where can you procure Celox?
Surplus shops. I get mine for $3 for the gauze packs that arent expired from troops who never opened their ifak or even deployed.
You can get it off amazon for quite a bit more
>>30169861
nah
>>30169871
do you recommend I shoot someone so I can get some real life experience?
>>30169874
pretty nice mang, better than most the stuff you see on here.
>>30169896
That isnt him its some dirty hohol in the ATO
>>30169895
no, I recommend you get real training instead of being way too confident in skills you don't possess
>>30169895
is this bait?
i took a basic first aid + cpr class years back and it literally has no relevance at all. You aren't going to do jack shit with your ifak. At best you're hoping for someone qualified to treat you while you flop around.
>>30169906
He's British, cunt.
>>30169909
I don't know where you are getting me being to confident from.
>>30169911
All classes are the same right?
I will probably never use my ifak, I'm not hoping for anything.
You guys get triggered to easily.
Looking into making a plate carrier rig. Who are some good plate carrier makers
>>30169916
>He's British, cunt.
>azov patch
>in ukraine
>posing with all that tacticool
Hohol general
>>30169943
His name is Chris Garrett
How Ukrainian does that name sound?
>>30169959
If he is hanging out with the retards in azov he is borscht brains anyway.
>>30169895
>This level of shit posting
Whatever man, your life, but for the price of your BCG, or LaRue stuff you can learn to manage traumatic injuries. Probably the only really useful thing to come out of this hobby.
>>30169975
>LE FOR THE MOTHERLAND XDXDXDXD
You know you are from kansas right?
>>30169930
>doesn't know difference between "to" and "too"
>retarded tripshit with gucci AR and no real knowledge of how to use any of his shit
Yeah buddy, I'm sure your basic first aid + CPR class covered wound packing, tourniquet application, needle decomp, and inserting a NPA. You don't know how much you don't know if you think any basic first aid and CPR class is going to help you. What did they teach you, chest compressions, RICE, and how to put a person in the recovery position?
>>30169995
>implying im a slavboo
)))))))))))))
>>30169930
>I don't plan on needing my IFAK but I have one just in case, but I don't want to train because I don't plan on using it
dude wut
nobody is triggered, we're trying to give you advice
>>30170003
>>30170016
He's a 20 year old trip fag on 4chan, do you expect anything other than shit posting?
>>30169486
>tactical fanny pack
kek
>>30169906
I see, I see
>>30169842
>christmas day
>12/26
>>30169989
I took a class and watched numerous videos can't do much else without having someone get hurt in front of me
>>30170003
Im not a """medic""" I would never carry needles or a npa
>>30170016
you guys are bitching, the only advice is >>30169861
>>30169887
Found a plunger/applicator set on amazon for $20, only 6 grams though. Anything it does that the gauze can't? At these prices I'll pick up both anyways.
>>30169873
except I think quikclot is not naturally absorbed by the body like celox, and has the potential to create rogue blood clots that can travel to your heart and brain
>>30169804
approved
>muh 50 shades
>>30170093
You don't need to be a medic for chest decomp or NPA. It used to be taught standard to everybody in the army as part of the CLS program.
>>30170093
Well when someone gives you advice and you say "nah," that's what we call a clue. Also you realize there are civilian open-enrollment classes that focus on this exact thing, right?
>>30170114
>Anything it does that the gauze can't?
The plunger is for deep wounds, also known as the kind that you dont want to monkey with if you arent a dedicated medic. The gauze will also be lighter and smaller.
>except I think quikclot is not naturally absorbed by the body like celox, and has the potential to create rogue blood clots that can travel to your heart and brain
In addition, if you get it in your eye you will go blind
>>30170135
neat. Not a milfag though
>>30170142
I'm sure there are. I said nah cause I'm not going to take that class.
>>30169852
What pack is that?
>>30170087
I'm retarded
>>30170172
Sposn Cake pack my friend.
also pic related I fell for another Russian meme pack.
>>30169842
>visiting buddies for Christmas
>shoot some guns
>fuck around innawoods
>Drink with extreme prejudice
>one of em' takes a picture of me in their room with a Santa hat, bathrobe, Wolf mask, and my PC on
Not much to tell really.
>>30170157
>can't do much else without having someone get hurt in front of me
Yup, I guess there's nothing more to be done. I'm laffin at how you try to act hard, when you can't even show us an IFAK or name any of the shit that's in it. Keeping your only med supplies buried inside a pack where nobody knows where they are is retarded. It's even funnier considering you don't know how to use it, so your best bet is hoping your buddies can treat you.
>>30170209
Do you like it, or is it just a meme?
>>30170266
Haven't gotten the package full of goodies yet
>>30170233
>acting hard
>over confident
you guys are reaching a little hard. sorry I ruined your safe space
>>30170317
>I took a first aid/cpr class and youtube makes things bretty easy
Yup, not overconfident at all. The fact that you're still in here trying to defend your credibility and haven't run back to your /arg/ safe space is a pretty good indicator that you know you stepped on your crank. I'm glad you trip though, this way I know which posts belong to know-nothing, never-done-anything retards like you.
>>30170157
>not a milfag
I know. My point is, if we can handle it, you can handle it, so why not learn it? It's helpful (chest decomp, anyway) when there is the potential for gunshot wounds.
>>30170081
Gotta put my fleshlight somewhere.
>>30169514
I have an XL ALICE pack. Honestly probably too large for my setup but it's well-balanced with the rack, so I'm happy with it. Got it for $15 at a milsurp shop here with the rack
>>30170373
>muh /arg/
l m a o
>>30170380
makes sense. I will look into it senpai
>>30170432
>l m a o
high quality comeback bruh
>I will look into it senpai
that doesn't mean looking it up on youtube, if you needle decomp a bitch without having some kind of formal training and something goes wrong you are open for all kind of legal repercussions
>>30168816
I haven't posted this in a couple weeks
>>30170472
damn I was going to watch a video then buy some needles
>>30170302
Unless you mean the cake pack
I like the cake pack. It's a great 45 liter for working with a plate carrier.
The shoulder straps are thin, and the waistbelt is built for hugging & distributing the weight.
The way the pack has been constructed it puts the weight on your hips and not your shoulder, while keeping a good center of gravity, when you're weighted down with kit.
with the wide base the more narrow top, it doesn't have the problem of pulling away from the body like some of the more top-heavy packs do.
I like the snowflake value of the SPOSN cake ,or tortilla, pack. but it's a great pack IMO.
>>30170498
not that different from your current training philosophy
>>30170527
needles are different than tq imo
>>30170093
except I'm not bitching, I told you to get training or at least use what you carry so you know how it works, that's what non-autists call advice
>>30167776
>>30167845
'They' say 1/4 of their bodyweight, presuming they're healthy dogs that aren't obese.
My new LBT 6094
>>30170749
neat. All she carries is her food and water/dish
>>30170792
If you do joint stuff with US Marshals will it get confusing? Or does that not really matter?
>>30170792
Do you run soft armor in the sides?
>>30170836
Lol. It wouldn't matter, but I work with em often (a couple times a week usually, Fugitive stuff is also USMS' deal) and can honestly say I've never seen anyone else wear a 6094. One dude runs Ranger Green Banshee, one dude runs an OD CIRAS, one runs a Black Eagle Industries PC, and one guy runs a Coyote HSGI Weesatch. Idk why if supposedly this 6094 was contracted and bought for everyone, but when I showed it to some of them, they were like "nope, never seen em."
>>30170836
But it really wouldn't matter. We're all the same team. As long as no one gets shot, we're good.
>>30170869
Nah. Don't have any. Got a guy working on it for me though! SWAT guys get the fun stuff...
>>30170897
That's interesting. I've seen pics of it in use. Before I bought mine I did some looking to see if I could find the contract it was under and I think they got them through a third party vendor so it might have been a regional thing?
>>30170921
That sucks, although I guess it's personal preference. I have 3a panels in the sides and it adds stiffness making it easier to get on and off.
>>30170948
That's the main reason I'd want em. It doesn't really offer a TON of protection...
>>30170939
That's what I assumed. Everyone at "such and such" districts got them.
>>30170983
How comfortable is it running a radio in the cummerbund pouch? Is it likely to hot mic if you get prone or anything?
>>30170983
No they don't, and not really where protection is needed anyways, but they're comfy.
Plate carrier = 16 lbs = LOL
Add 6 mags = 6 lbs =LOLOL
add Pistol = 2 lbs=LOLOLOLO
add 4 pistol mags= 2 LBS=LOLOLOLLLOLL
HELMET = PURE LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
WATER =LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOLLLLL
Rucksack with food and other shit= 10-15 LBS=LLLLLLLLLOLOLLLLOLLLLLOLLO
Support system to keep you resupplied and backed up = ...oh you forgot about that. Yeaaaa you need to carry all that faggot shit mentioned above around.
>>30170983
Also, do you run any medical supplies like a TQ or do you not worry about it?
>>30170148
Dude I should have asked the reverse: is the gauze superior? I've got 2 plunger kits and 2 packs of the powder in my cart right now, thinking I should also grab one of the celox-r gauze packs...
>>30171096
>Rucksack with food and other shit= 10-15 LBS
More like 20-30 depending on your shelter, sleep gear, extent of rations, need for water (desert ops)
>Support system to keep you resupplied and backed up
It becomes a lot more appealing to drop the plates in favor of additional ammo, guns too for that matte, once you accept you're pretty much on your own
I put my kit in the 40lb range. 20lbs between the loaded rifle and the chest rig alone. Not gonna run marathons with it on, but that's a comfortable rucking weight
>>30171099
Sometimes. I have an IFAK on a HSGI Battle Belt. Usually it stays in my truck and I just run my PC with a Safariland 6378 (Glock 21SF) and a Safariland 573 (mag & cuffs) for basic "jump out" kinda stuff. If this is a more planned out deal or a more high profile bad guy, I'll throw on my HSGI battle belt which has a drop leg for my Glock, my IFAK, a Tops Sky Marshal, a taser, and a couple sets of flex cuffs on it. I don't worry as much as I should on the "normal" deals where I do not have an IFAK because one of the other guys is a SWAT tac-medic with a whole lot of experience that typically hangs back for medical emergencies and is ready to render aid. I know worst case scenario could lead to everyone being down, and I guess it's bad that I'm getting complacent. I'll prolly throw it on my carrier before the next warrant service.
>>30171099
Sorry! Didn't answer as to what was in it. I keep a TQ, quick clot, a 4" bandage, chest seals, a pair of EMT scissors, and snoopy band aids for the lulz
>>30171397
And electrical tape. I love that shit.
>>30169334
Never stated I did. In fact, I would love to own all the things in that pic.
>>30165810
>ballistic
If you intend on getting shot in the head you need to reevaluate your role in any sort of armed conflict.
>>30171666
Nobody intends on getting shot, but shit happens to good people. By your logic we shouldn't bother with plates. Heck, we might as well not have spare mags, because we don't intend on missing.
>>30167924
The first man in line gets a rifle. The second, ammunition.
They never specified the second 'human'
>>30168222
>no picture
assuming you actually dont own anything besides a nugget i'm rating you kys/10
>>30171952
He probably has a Jansport.
BUMP
>>30172023
Big Boss?
Black powder // brown shag carpet
>>30171375
>>30171397
Awesome thanks for the reply. I didn't realize that you worked as a team and had a medic. That definitely simplifies things.
>>30172186
I love your setup, it's my goal
>>30172221
Meh, we don't really "work as a team" as much as we happen to have a tac medic who does the same job as me. But yeah, it is reassuring to have someone that knowledgeable in case of emergencies.
>focusing on gear
>not on perfecting your weapons
top kek
>>30172852
How many layers of paint do you have now?
>>30172866
like half.
>>30172922
>>>/arg/
>>30172953
nag, guns are too much work so maybe i'll put all my effort into gear instead.
>>30172967
>guns are too much work
Maybe you just suck at them? it's OK - feel free to come here at suck at this too
>>30173052
nah, it's literally the barrels or ammo, not me.
>>30172852
>said the man with a $5000 AR that shoots 4 MOA groups on a good day
giddy pls
>>30173107
that's the joke
>>30172852
my rifle is already perfect.
>>30172922
You have nice things but your rattle can fuck ups make it look like vomit.
>>30173118
>>30173107
>>30173101
holy kek
gonna have to start calling you Black Costa
/k/ tell me, is it odd that when I see armed security or cops and they run their gear all strange or out of place that it bothers me? Like today I saw some cop running a drop leg holster almost down to his fucking knee. I almost asked him if he hated running when I walked by. Honestly, it sounds like my autism getting the better of me.
>>30174001
i'm not a nigger
>>30168310
>consider getting the refund unless it stays warm where you live all year round
Aimpoints have thermal drift, too brah.
>>30174015
It triggers me as well.
The irony being they have legit purpose for using the gear but don't take the time to apply common sense to their setups.
Basically normies that buy tactical gear but they buy the stuff that makes them look like tryhards.
I need help
>>30172062
kek I wish
>>30173318
I really like your rifle. And your plate carrier.
I am building my first AR and am using the ACS-L stock and KMR-A 13". How do you like the magpul stock?
>>30174133
That's the funniest part. I was never in the military and don't use my gear for work and only own it because I thought it was cool and because I thought that maybe owning some gear and taking a few courses probably wasn't the worst idea. Meanwhile you have guys that actually use this shit for their jobs and shit and they're fucking clueless. If I had to rely on a piece of equipment to keep me alive you better believe I'd be super autistic about it being as functional as possible.
Poorfag here. Whats the best combo I could get for under $700?
>>30174257
love mine would buy again
bit heavy but DYEL
>>30174257
thanks anon.
I look for sturdiness and ergonomics in stocks, and in that regard the acs is my favorite. a little heavy but it balances out the shit I have hanging off the handguard.
KMR-A is the way to go.
>>30174362
>>30174335
thank you for the input. I impulse bought the ASC-L because it was part of a PSA LPK bundle for $120 so I said fuck it. Like I said it will be my first AR.
Aero Gen 2 Upper and Lower, 16' SS Noveske barrel, MOE grip, ACS-l, H2 buffer and KMR-A 13".
And yes Anon I lift, also work as a laborer.
>>30171666
Do you even exist in popular culture today? Getting a headshot is like every 14 year old and ganbangers wet dream. People going to be throwing steel at ur dome when there is bullets flying.
Does anybody have one of those IDF belt rig/load bearing rigs?
Are there other alternatives for something similar? I'm looking for something to move the weight down lower to be more comfortable in long dismounted patrols in non-urban areas.
Alice and molle belts don't cut it, not enough room on them, I wear size 31 pants.
>>30170114
>>30170148
That's the old quick clot, the new ones they're selling are a type of sponge like gauze you put over the wound, well for the quikclot trauma pack anyways
>>30174275
>Be cop
>mass shooting happening
>get the "all officers respond" call
>hold up I gotta change in full ATAC commies
>get there
>mass shooting over, plains cloths cop got'em
>oh well least I'll look cool for the cameras as I strut around puffing my chest like I actually did something.
I can't me the only one that thinks cops wearing camouflage is stupid as fuck.
>>30174189
You don't need 12 maga on your person. 6 is acceptable. Put those other 6 in a pack. Recommend putting the magazines on your rifle hand side away and using that area as a place for a GP pouch for a compass, multi tool, small cleaning kit, etc.
>>30174863
>respond to bank robbery in ghillie suit
>>30174901
He's just emphasising his "sniper" status to the onlookers and media.
Probably will take him longer to take all the crap off then the stand off itself.
So everyone I've heard of says jeans are woefully inadequate pants for surviving/operating/innawoodsing.
What do you guys recommend?
>>30174413
Relating on this post. Can someone recommend me a battle belt. I have been debating getting a HSGI Slimgrip or an internal belt that uses belt loops and still holds my gear like the storm rider warlord system.
pls help!
(pic unrelated)
>>30174938
Kuhl Revolvr pants.
>>30174978
I hear great things about the Revolvr line. They are pretty cheap too.
Can anyone recommend some pants that are not baggy doe.
>>30175030
>no I need a model with the thinnest legs you can find
>>30175037
>what is a tailor?
>>30175049
tailors cause people to lose all the muscle mass in their legs?
Better warn the public then
>>30174938
I've got some miscellaneous pairs of Columbia and North Face pants that I usually wear when innawoods.
My North Face pair are nice because they zip off at the knee for when its hot as balls here in Alabama.
I've got a pair of SOG pants that are super comfortable but the stitching is complete crap. I doubt they would hold up to serious usage.
LAPG sells some really inexpensive and decent quality pants as well, I'd look there if you want a pair or two that won't set you back $100
>>30175030
thanks bae
>>30175049
how much does a tailor cost? Never really thought about that.
>>30175095
asian in chinatown: $5-10
anyone else: a lot more
>>30174892
it's likely he's using some of those double mags as a GP pouch. Besides, even if they were 12 fully loaded mags, once he put them on he'd probably realize how fucking stupid that was.
>>30166290
if you wanna go knockoff crye, go with UR
http://www.ur-tactical.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/view/category/virtuemart_category_id/15
>>30165797
just go denim plate carrier bro
>>30165936
>>30166628
>>30167804
I can confirm, KT MECH makes some quality shit.
They did me good on my M&P9L + TLR1 combo
best pic I've got currently but it's super quality and the best price I could find on a custom setup
>>30169298
I would watch out for post-blackhawk eagle. Most of the old guard from eagle went to start First Spear when they got bought out. But if you get old eagle gear its all good to go as fuck. My RRV is old eagle and it survived a tour and doesn't even look like it.
The backing is new and I should note that the pouches are all new to me, I removed all my tour shit from the RRV because AR Cadpat.
>>30169790
CTOMS
>>30174976
I love my slimgrip. If you run heavy, a suregrip would be a better option.
The inner and outer belt system can get uncomfortable with heavier setups worn for long durations.
>>30175022
A company named Prana makes nice innawoods pants of varying styles and weights, they make a bunch of cuts from super baggy to slim.
>>30165530
>last gear queer died guise
>>30174083
prove it
>>30172852
How do you like the FNX? I'm torn between it, a USP Tactical or a TRP for my next .45.
> Have my hunting gear to keep it thread related.
>>30175115
he may, but he didn't specify. when I see mag pouches I think they are being used for mags. If he put a GP pouch on there I would say itss a solid basic set up.
>>30174317
>poor
>$700
You can basically get whatever PC you want plus plates and pouches for that much
>>30176555
FNH handguns are highly underrated - the first handgun I owned is an FNS. But I'd recommend the HK. It has a better trigger overall (DA especially), and shit man it's an HK
>>30175282
bookmahked
>>30174819
I'm inclined to steer clear of quikclot in general, but that's good to know, thanks
>>30174498
SADF M83?
http://ebay.to/1Ul7lmO
Greyman.
>>30176555
why's your AK's muzzle brake so short?
>>30177085
fucking kek
>>30176986
Do you really find the breacher bar useful? Seems like it is a hefty little thing to haul around if it doesn't have a real specific purpose.
>>30166290
Potomac makes woodland combat shirts, and their fabric alone is worth far more than they charge imo
>>30177669
Not him, but my unit was issued a bunch of these. Nobody carried them. Anything you can do with it can be done by a hearty knife.
>>30177669
never understood this either
I feel like you'd need to also carry a hammer to be able to actually use it
>>30165530
>>30170114
>>30170148
>>30176986
Medfag here, celox is and quikclot can cause blindness if it kicks up into your eye and you don't wash it out, it's not instant or guaranteed every time.
Celox plungers are good for stabilizing gunshot wounds that would cause fatal blood loss. Any clots formed in the artery, if they break loose into the blood stream, will end up occluding smaller arterioles downstream -- ie, a gun shot to the forearm could cause a downstream clot in the ulnar artery, but your hand receives collateral blood supply anyway. If it enters the venous circulation somehow then you get a PE, which isn't necessarily life threatening. Clots cannot possibly enter brain or coronary arteries unless you have a PDA, which is very unlikely. That having been said, celox is intended for life threatening wounds -- situations where the choice is between risk of clotting or bleeding death.
>>30176305
Thanks. I actually use a pair of Prana Zion pants I got at JC Penny for $10. They are great pants.
>>30175209
canadian swat teams swear by it
>>30177819
>Sweden yes
>>30175030
>>30175059
>tighter pants, tighter groupings
kill yourself nogunz
>>30177669
I do. For me, it's a slim, just-fuck-my-shit-up prybar. Only other tools I'd have are a 3" folder and a Leatherman, and I need something I can abuse and not worry about. It's a solid chunk of metal for sure, but I'd never go so far to say I'm 'hauling' it anywhere (dyel). If you take the time to sharpen in a little it's a great piece to have
>>30177954
Good info medfag, thank you. I'm no stranger to things that can cause blindness - I'm handling muriatic acid, calcium chlorite, etc on the daily for me job
Please stick around
>>30178788
I feel like the carbon steel would rust way too quickly down here in Florida
>>30177760
>>30178788
Used an m9 bayonet as my pry bar. Meaty enough to do what ever I needed. Those cheap afghan foot lockers never stood a chance.
>>30178890
Oh bro it would. Mine came rusty straight from fucking countycomm, but it's only on the surface and comes right off. Before I wrapped it in paracord I rubbed it down with some oil - hopefully that staves off any serious corrosion that could develop
>>30178998
>Theif
>Afghan
Saiga is that you?
How's Venezuela treating you?
>>30175240
i refuse to use any of their non military issue shit, so i have no experience with their civvie pouches.
i have heard that though
pic related is what i used to run before i switched to my FS rigs
>>30179061
>knife handle jabbing into my brachial
why
>>30179152
that carrier is long gone now, but the handle was well clear of jabbing into me, it was really comfortable actually
>>30174128
trijicon and aimpoint products have been shown to exhibit some thermal drift, but much less than eotech and neither of the aforementioned companies lied about it
>>30177085
kek. It actually works really well. and makes a great flame night shooting. But I recently put the slant brake back on because the long brake was interfering with house clearing drills.
>>30178788
medfag again, np, I usually lurk these threads just don't trip or post often.
Do you do industrial or research chem?
Also want to mention maybe adding diphenhydramine and aspirin to your IFAK if it's not already in there, just one single serve pack. Just seems to me that in a non-SHTF ruck with your gear you're much more likely to be with someone who gets acute chest pain or has an unknown allergy to bees than get shot. Diphenhydramine alone isn't enough to counter anaphylaxis, I really wish epi pens were OTC, but it's better than nothing. For the same reason it might be worth considering carrying a tracheotomy kit instead of an OPA or NPA. Just my unsolicited 2c.
>>30179483
Wouldn't it be better to have a dedicated GSW or TCCC oriented kit with all your gun stuff and have a separate general med kit in your pack (for hiking or whatever) or in your car? Just thinking that for organizational purposes this would be a lot simpler.
>>30179597
However you want to break it up, sure. Different people have kits for different reasons. Some people keep their whole kit in their trunk just in case... others have get home bags? something like that I forget the acronym. I'm only saying if you're walking in the woods with gear and buddies on any given normal weekend, may want to consider adding those two meds.
>>30179028
I don't know who you are talking about. But I never took anything from them for my personal collection. Did take some shady stuff though to turn in for Intel. Coolest thing I found was a makarov. most of the time it was taliban propaganda.
>>30165688
No homo that rifle looks nice. What mount is the light attached to?
>>30178698
Hey I like my pants to be tighter and not so flowy and baggy as shit. It feels like shit and if I have things in cargo pockets they are not retained and flop around. Shit I would wear tactical yogo pants if they were durable and felt good.
Also yes tighter pants always equal tighter groupings
>>30177018
why dont you just carry a bore snake in a pocket or pouch instead of rubberbanding your cleaning rod to your rifle? Just curious.
>>30180833
You could use a cleaning rod to punch out a stuck case, Vietnam style. Not very likely to happen but the cleaning rod doesn't exactly add much weight either.
>>30179061
>misc chest pouches
>tactical tits
>>30180887
true, I never thought of that. But I imagine that is something you would not do in any sort of stress full situation and you could use a multitool to pry or pull the case out from the chamber end.
>>30181225
Agreed (mind you i'm not the guy who posted the pic). If the rod was kept assembled it would likely be faster than the multitool, but in the broken down form maybe not.
do they make flecktarn plate carriers and AK mag pouches? if so, where?
>>30179061
oh man, that looks comfy.
>>30181248
>>30181225
>>30180833
>>30180887
It is for malfunction clearing, mainly looking at stuck case or a brass over bore malfunction. I like having field expedient solutions to problems, and using this is much faster and easier than fucking around with a multitool. This is not intended to be a fix while actively under fire (as if I need to state that), but it is fast. With a bit of practice I can go from identifying a malfunction to clearing it and getting the rifle up and running in sub-45 seconds. Carrying it as is doesn't interfere with anything, carrying the rob assembled or partially assembled causes a bit of interference, so having it disassembled is a compromise. I also carry basic cleaning supplies along with my rifle mags so the rod can be used for that. I'm of the mindset of carrying field expedient fixes and support supplies with my items as much as possible; sewing kit in my pant pocket, spare batteries with my electronics, and cleaning and fixes with my weapons. It's surprisingly easy to organize all this stuff while still staying relatively streamlined.
>>30181743
What do you mean by brass over bore? Is that any different from a bolt override? Cause you can clear those with no tools.
>Pull charging handle back as far as you can (exert some strength here, you can place the buttstock against your chest with the muzzle down if you're kneeling, or against your thigh/hip with the muzzle up)
>Rip mag out (same, use some muscle)
>Press bolt catch in
>karate-chop/ridge-hand the charging handle forward
>rack rack rack
>reload the gun
Or if you can't get enough travel to use the bolt catch you can get your fingers into the magwell or ejection port to hold the bolt back, and do the same karate chop to the charging handle.
This is in Pat Mac's carbine DVD and there are some youtube videos in which Mike Pannone demonstrates this.
Also you could assemble the cleaning rod and run it along the right side of the rifle, like KD4's in pic related.
>>30181743
>>30181830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlqHYW17zok
I got a step out of order, my bad.
gear fags I need some recommendations, for low cost shit that is good, but cheap
>new plate carrier
>ear muffs
>cheap ass molle pouches and shit
Also, I have an issued ACH but I can't seem to get it to fit well with the pads in, are there thinner pads out there for sale?
t. faggot
>>30181830
Basically this malfunction. However if a round if caught between the bottom of the charging handle and the top of the bolt, pulling back on the charging handle may exacerbate the problem by causing the round to become more wedged in place. I know from experience how much of a pain this issue can become for people if the first solution doesn't work or they don't use enough muscle, and end up with a round jammed in worse than when they started. Using the clearing rod has, for me, proven to be fast and reliable. It also works just as fast for clearing stuck brass, and for intended use as a cleaning tool.
I experimented with different rod placements and don't like putting it on the stock like that. It leaves me unable to adjust the stock length. My placement doesn't interfere with anything for me.
I have come to my layout over a long time of experimentation and use in the field. I listen to expert commentary, but the experts often have conflicting opinions, so the real test is to use something for yourself and let personal experience guide it. I'm not trying to spread the gospel of my way or the highway, since not all layouts fit all situations. My experience is primarily longer term dismounted with reduced supply chains; this has given me a focus on self fixes and multiuse items.
But I like coming here to see how others have had their experiences shape their choices.
>>30181936
>Also, I have an issued ACH but I can't seem to get it to fit well with the pads in, are there thinner pads out there for sale?
You don't have to wear all the pads. Remove like half of them for better airflow. Also, get aftermarket straps.
>cheap ass molle pouches and shit
What kinda pouches? If you're .mil, then the issued pouches should already fit the majority of your needs. What are you not currently able to carry than you want to?
>>30181936
Beez combat systems.
Old usgi double mag pouches,
Try removing some of the pads and placing them on the sides only.
>>30181960
Any aftermarket strap recommendations? And I already have most of the pads out, I just am looking for thinner ones because of my fucked up head
>If you're .mil
Well, I am, but we all know issued shit is just shit.
Plus, I am buying an AK and need shit for that, since I doubt my 2mag carrier will work. >>30181992
Again, I would use a 2mag but I doubt it fits AK mags. Plus, alice clips a shit, I wanna look cool in front of the school bullies with my convoluted molle webbing /s
>>30182036
http://www.amazon.com/MOLLE-Double-Magazine-Pouch-MultiCam-8465-01-580-0701/dp/B00MVF6Y9I
Molle ones have pretty decent clearance
>>30182036
Ops-Core is good. The whole $100+ head harness is god tier. The $50 straps are really great and not too special snowflake looking.
>Well, I am, but we all know issued shit is just shit.
Most of the issued pouches are actually pretty good, just underappreciated. The triple mag shingles and the bandoleer are the only pieces I can think of which just really suck.
For an AK, go on SKD and buy whatever they say will fit. And/or get some TACOs.
> Plus, alice clips a shit, I wanna look cool in front of the school bullies with my convoluted molle webbing /s
Who da fuq issuing you ALICE clipped shit?
>>30165668
I love my fucking FS Assaulter. Use the swift clips too, with a Haley D3.
>>30182119
Got any pics? Like to see how the clips attach to the 6/12. Do you run buckles on the side too?
>>30182169
Yeah standby let me take a couple. Also yes. I do connect the sides as well. I'll do 3 or 4 and post.
>>30182169
1/3
>>30182169
>>30182354
2/3
>>30182096
I have old alice clipped mag pouches, etool cases, and canteed holders
Not issued per se, but if it broke don't fix it. It's not like its part of my TA-50, it just plain works for other stuff. I still have a pistol belt and harness from the old days that I like for shits and giggles.
>>30182262
>>30182379
3/3
>>30182413
ree illuminati get out
>but how do I join?
My local lodge ignored the fuck out of me, what do? I always wanted to know more
>>30182481
Where are you located?
Some lodges are not even recognized by the states grand lodges. It's kinda odd. Basically it's the whole "To be one, you must ask one" type deal.
>>30182526
>virginia
>>30182548
https://grandlodgeofvirginia.org/joining
>>30182578
Thanks, I'll try at this level instead of the local lodge.
Anyone have a JPC they want to sell?
>>30182413
Is the AAC totally unpadded inside? I've heard it's more minimalist than the Strandhogg and I was wondering how comfortable it was.
>>30182413
Where did you get the Mason patch? I'm a Bro. from Wisconsin
>>30182657
My buddy had a great lodge in New Mexico. Moved to rural Virginia and the guys don't care at all about the craft or history... he was sorely disappointed. Chin up, you'll find the right fit somewheres.
>>30182791
That's sad, because I'm not too far from rural VA. I really enjoy the craft, although I'm more a carpenter than a mason so it is what it is. Still breddy cool
>>30182863
dang, i meant rural western va, but he actually lives close to the town of rural also. where you at?
>>30183060
I also meant rural western VA, bit south but I spend time in Leesburg as well
>>30166290
YEah boy I'm with you, I'm training for MARSOC
>>30166694
Nice trip
>Koko the loco
>>30168455
He got an epipen because he say the adrenaline and went
>Gibs me dat
>>30169874
>Actually looks legit/10
Good job, anon
>>30182704
Not really. I added some behind the plates.
>>30182771
https://www.pinterest.com/source/spartan-village.com
>>30182671
I love my JPC
>>30183209
You know that's a picture from Ukraine, not really anon right? This picture has been posted in the last few threads as a ruse.
>>30174976
>Not tucking in your fucking shirt
>>30183244
What's that on the front of your carrier, a knife?
Honest question here, does anyone know of a plate carrier that can work with a fucked up chest? My hearts rotated, so the left side of my sternum sticks out further than the right.
I'm looking to get something that isnt too uncomfortable when leaning to the left of my chest. Also, bonus points for anything thats not gonna rub the fuck out of my chest when I'm wearing it: skin condition
>>30183244
Yeah that why I'm trying to buy one
>>30183400
Seat belt cutter, but it can do a lot more than that.
Was standard issue when I was in Afghanistan.
>>30183481
Heres how bad my shit is fucked up, as a reference.
Don't laugh at my No_gainz
you guys forgot tactical rattlecans for spraypainting dicks everywhere
>>30175209
it just needs a rattail, and a Marshall Tucker Band patch sewn under the MOLLE for it to reach true white trash SWAT.
>>30182413
>dat neck
something ain't right
>>30183835
I would just suggest getting soft armor
>>30183244
is that a viperheadwear hat?
and if so, how long did he take to send it to you? i havent bought one in years from him, but heard it got to be a bad wait.
>>30184101
Can you double up on soft armor inserts for more/better protection? Because as far as I've seen, even level 3 soft body armor is only rated for .44 Magnum; where as level 4 composite armor is tested up to .30-06.
>>30181946
Fugly mag-job aside, I can really appreciate where you're coming from
>>30183835
You ever see 300?
You will never be a Spartan.
Don't be a bitch and show them the mountain pass.
>>30184481
Hey man, I've spent my life training for a military I'll never serve in. I want to be a Spartan, but god made sure that didn't happen
>Who cares if you've been disqualified since birth, all that matters is that y-you've got a goal, r-right?
>
>>30184401
You could wear soft armor under plates, that might aleviate some of the discomfort.
>>30179061
>>30177819
>>30175240
>>30170792
>>30167565
>>30183244
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>gear that I have not seen
Thank you for your service guys.
