I used to have a huge folder filled with webms of aircraft crashing. Harriers. Tomcat. B-2. F-18. F-16. MiG-29. Sukhois. The list goes on and on. Then my computer crashed and all my webm's are gone. I want them back. Post webm's of stuff crashing. Explosions, implosions, and general mayhem are also accepted.
>>30118025
>most of the crew is clustered on the area of hull that explodes
Jesus Christ.
>>30117952
>webms wiped
iktfb, god speed anon
>>30119432
Did everyone die from the shockwave?
>>30117952
>monitoring this thread
>>30119544
>Ejecting at that angle and surviving.
Fucking rooskie space mejec.
>>30119544
Why that that pilot's reaction time so slow?
>>30119569
Exactly how much shit do you get from the military if you end up in this kind of situation?
>>30119544
>eject
>nope!
>eject
>nope!
>>30119604
It kinda looks like he lost power
Could be wrong
>>30119604
>how much shit do you get
All of it.
>>30119627
Yeah, I'm sure he wasn't at fault or anything there. I can't imagine they're happy at you losing a multi-million dollar aircraft though.
>>30118025
What ship is that? The superstructure kind of looks Japanese but Im not sure.
>>30119653
It was a CF-18, so it was probably a good 1500 hours beyond retirement anyways.
>>30119714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROwbjD_ScM
>>30119689
>>30119707
Neat. Story on the plane one?
>>30119569
The coloring on the underside looks like a mouth
>>30119753
Looks like the guy survived the explosion.
>>30119534
holy shit what a shot, that has about a dozen different things going on in it
>>30119743
Smugglers trying to get away with electronics. Federal Police hits the wing.
Complete video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-9qbCHl_H4
>>30119771
lel no.
These Jihadists are retarded as fuck, why the fuck use TOW just to kill 1 guy?
>>30119604
Pilots only get 2 ejections before they're grounded for life for medical reasons. Too much force on the spine
>>30119573
proly thought he could save it
>>30119534
This is like that video version of the painting with the guy smoking a cigar with the reflection of war in his sunglasses.
A classic.
>>30117952
>used to have a huge folder filled with webms of aircraft crashing
>Then my computer crashed
meta
>>30119860
exoset?
>>30119534
Slant eyed fuck can't even commit suicide right.
>>30119885
>Not just starting a thread on /gif/ and posting all the autistic dubstep editions
>>30119749
>canadian camo simulates an upside down plane
WHY
>>30119816
You mean battle cessna?
>>30119885
Idk why I keep laughing at this
>>30119653
They're probably not happy about it, but I imagine a pilot is a more significant investment than an aircraft. If you have to ditch it, ditch it.
>>30119917
I have no idea
reminder
>>30120037
did they just ditch that fuckin tank?
>>30120060
Yep.
>>30120060
Think they did. If anyone is up for some operating you could probably find it in a ditch somewhere in Iraq.
>>30120037
looks like it was a pretty dumb choice to stay in that spot, not sure why they didnt just gtfo of there...
>>30120150
hadjis can't senshado for shit
>>30119604
>>30119653
in his case since it was a maintenance fuckup, there's no blame on the pilot.
there's always somebody or something at fault when a jet crashes. wouldn't want to be those maintainers or their supervisor.
>>30120037
>>30120086
Fuck, Abrams are so cool, I wish we hadn't given them to those incompetent third world goat herders. They could make any weapon look impotent and useless.
>>30120181
Half of the time they blame it on a faulty piece of hardware, and the other half an apprentice mechanician is fired.
>>30119976
>pilot is a more significant investment than an aircraft
Nope, the jet is still more expensive
>>30120345
Not if you take into account that time is money.
You can produce more planes that pilots, at least with the actual production rates.
A Top gun pilot is an unvaluable asset, an F-16 not so much.
>>30120345
Depends on the pilot. If you got 1500 hours flying in a F-16/60, you are worth way more then the aircraft in training costs and experience.
>>30120378
Most people don't have 1500hours.
A F16 expert Lockheed Martin uses only has 1,100hrs and he considered to be the foremost expert
>>30119883
delet this
>>30119921
>>30119534
Total miss. First time kamikaze for sure.
>>30120431
>First and only
>>30120393
http://www.f-16.net/pilots-4000-hours.html
>>30120668
When talking about cheap f16s sure, not the same as an unreplaceable F22.
The jet is still worth more.
>>30120766
After years of training and absorbing government money it is always cheaper to replace the plane. The pilot can be reused in a crash situation if the can get out. If the pilot dies then they have to put all that money in it again just to buy a pilot that is of lesser quality due to less experience.
>>30119795
When hillary gives them like candy you can go overboard with them
>>30120782
Except when u literally can't replace the jet.
F22 is a prime example
We can't make more right now.
>>30120429
wat
>>30120811
But there is still the option to make more. And if it isn't mothballed then there are still more to replace it with. No one said for every crash that there would be a new purchase.
>>30120858
wat?
>>30119883
wtf was that?
>>30120811
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/04/19/house-legislation-orders-f-22-restart-study/83248788/
Despite your goal post moving about the F16 being 'cheap', F22's are replaceable, they are more expensive but entirely replaceable.
>>30120863
We literally can't make more F22s right now.
Would take 5+ years to get one built and Like 1billion+ dollars.
I work in ayrospace bro, you don't understand how hard F22 parts are 2 make
>>30120985
Could still be a cheaper option to retool and spin production back up on a working platform than to spend more fixing the f35
>>30121021
1. The f35has been fixed for a while now.
2. Re making tooling is a fucking nightmare that usually can't be done.
Has to be approved by 4 engineering teams from us all the way to the US GOV.
Have you ever tried to get 50 engineers to agree on anything?
>>30121043
Spent a few months working with engineers at Edwards AFB trying to fix planes, I get ya. But if the plans and data was saved from the last production runs, would it still need to go through so much red tape?
>>30121077
Those same parts not work the same this time around.
Tolerances and RAM coatings are all different.
>>30121086
Brutal.
The Bay does it again.
>>30121100
>RAM coating
I'm glad I've never had to deal with that crap, heard from others that it was bullshit to work around/on.
>Tolerances
We still get parts sent to us out of tolerance when the design hasn't changed in 30 years.
Fresh outta the oven.
>>30120899
>>30120916
>>30120429
>>30119883
srsly wtf is this shit.. it looks like a nuke but it also looks like a missle hit the ship?
>>30121180
>We still get parts sent to us out of tolerance when the design hasn't changed in 30 years.
CNC Machinist here, I believe that completely.
>>30120215
Nah, I knew a crew chief in my Airman Leadership School class who singlehandedly broke the spine of an F-16 by forgetting to put a pin back in while deployed. Turned a fully functional jet into a pile of parts to scavenge from, just like that. (The break happened during taxiing though so at least there was no danger to the pilot.) He got paperwork and no deployment award, maybe a demotion, but he stayed in, and later was made an NCO.
>>30121235
>no earpro for pupper
JUST
>>30121235
fuck this guy....he always shoots with earmuffs and complains that his dog won't hear anything if he talks to him.
Take care of your doggy you fucking twat!
>>30120429
>>30120858
>>30120899
>>30120916
>>30121264
Ammo supply ship went up. Can't remember if it was from a torpedo or a kamikaze or what.
>>30121439
Aha, found it. USS John Burke, munition ship, hit in 1944 by kamikaze.
>>30120431
Maybe he did better on his next run
>>30121456
>>30121429
>>30121432
WTF hivemind!
>>30119952
Other people do this too, it's to confuse the enemy about which direction the plane is oriented. Particularly good for confusing guys on the ground but it might buy a split second's confusion in the right air to air scenario. It's a famous paint scheme on the Warthog.
>>30119627
Definitely. Right engine failure below Vmc. Look at the rudder deflection.
>>30119976
>Implying "the plane or your life" isn't just an unrealistic hypothetical anyways
>>30119573
>>30119621
well they ejected at the top, with the most distance from the ground.
>>30119534
>>30119544
>>30119569
>>30119598
>>30119643
>>30121122
Very good. This is a nice beginning.
>>30119917
No, it's Russian. Can't remember if it's the shipwreck or the other (think the other)
>>30119544
STRONK RUSSIAN PILOTS CAN SURVIVE ANYTHING, SLAVA POTAT
>>30123472
sunburn.
>>30119563
From what I understand, the Russian ejection seats are actually very good. Those seats, and most western seats for that matter, have a limited ability to "steer" the seat upward even at some pretty scary angles.
>>30119795
Because they just blew up the ammunition store of an entire platoon that are now cut off and defenseless.
>>30119563
It's actually a British innovation, ejector seats self-right when they leave the aircraft. You can eject sideways from an aircraft crashing into the ground and you'll be safe.
>>30118025
ALLAHU
>>30119563
Yep. Every modern ejection seat has that ability - and in addition to that, they also have "zero-zero" capability; i.e. you can eject from a stationary aircraft (zero airspeed) on the ground (zero altitude) and it'll throw you high enough, fast enough, that your 'chute can deploy and you'll come down safely.
>>30119598
>obsolete F9F panther used as the drone
heh
>>30118025
>>30119867
>filename
jesus I lol'd
>>30120037
>first shot knocks off treads
>some dismount to fight the fire on the rear deck
>crew continues to operate main gun and blow shit up while the tank soaks up more RPGs/Kornets without giving a fuck
itsfuckingnothing.png
>>30119843
>using helicopters in 2016
suicidal
>>30120985
>>30121043
IIRC it's not that they have destroyed the tooling for the F-22, but that Lockheed et al has seriously fucked up when it came to storing it. They keep going to get out tooling to make replacement parts for standard maintenance and they keep on finding the tooling isn't in the bin it was supposed to fucking be stored in.
There was a big article on it recently; about how the electronics of the aircraft are painfully dated, and how much it'd benefit from moving to a COTS architecture, and how there's a debate going on right now vis a vis restarting the production line now - or at least taking steps to preserve the production tooling and unfuck problems like this now - versus just waiting 10, 20 more years till the airframe's due for a big block upgrade like the F-15s and F-18s have periodically received and eating a much bigger cost then.
>>30121021
The Senate already did one of these studies, reopening the F-22 line would be extraordinarily expensive.
>>30121456
>>30121468
I know it was a munitions ships, but still, god damn that explosion. I thought it was Hiroshima viewed from some US vessel for a second.
>>30126442
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/raptor-resurrected-what-will-it-take-restart-f-22-fighter-15862
Yeah. Hope the ones we've got now are enough for the next 50 years. Thanks for cutting the initial orders, Congress!
>>30120393
Even still jsut look at how Flight operational officers are treated in the AirForce
>better treated
>More off time
>In charge of their own crew
>Trained to be extremely intellegent and quick thinking
>100% are college grads because the AirForce sure as fuck doesn't need jamal and bubba piloting a 122 million dollar aircraft into the side of a 4.5 billion dollar aircraft carrier.
>>30126466
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion
>>30126518
>Air Force
>carrier
Those things go nowhere near one another
>>30126691
You know what he meant retard
>>30126486
It wasn't congress, it was secretary gates. Funds for Iraq/AFG. MRAPs, etc.
>>30119917
No, Moskit. Big supersonic soviet anti-ship missile. They made a nuclear version, too.
>>30126700
Half the people from the locala liberal arts college think I'm retarded when I say the navy has an air force distinct from the USAF and they have to google it, I don't think its bad to point out the distinction even on a Taiwanese taxidermy board
>>30126737
>Half the people from the locala liberal arts college think I'm retarded when I say the navy has an air force distinct from the USAF and they have to google it, I don't think its bad to point out the distinction even on a Taiwanese taxidermy board
... jesus fucking christ. Okay, you make a good point. I accept this explanation and retract my derision.
>>30126762
No offense taken, for many people if it flies then it MUST be Air Force. I knew one person who thought that the marines should have their own Air Force (which, ya know, they already do and get special snowflake plane variants for).
Partly I think its because a major Air Force base is like next door so my area strokes the AF's ego, but I'm juuusst far enough away that people at the liberal college get only surface information and myths about what the USAF does and doesn't do.
Despite being next to the fucking AF museum a lot of people think you are speaking in an alien language if you say "Army Air Corps"
>>30119753
They are just fucking with each other over there.
>>30119843
Fuck stingers are 500% more scary after this.
>>30119883
I would love to see one is person.... Other than the radiation.
>>30119969
Because the little guy thinks he is a bad ass... THEN BOOOOOM!
>>30126813
>Despite being next to the fucking AF museum a lot of people think you are speaking in an alien language if you say "Army Air Corps"
I take it you live in or near Dayton, OH then?
And people there aren't even aware of AAC/Air Force transition... probably not any of the relevant history informing strategic airpower, power projection, etc. Oh. Oh boy I bet there's lots of fun and fucking games to be had whenever international politics comes up, huh? I bet they all spout off on NO NO PUTIN GONNA NUKE US ROLL OVER AND BELLY UP AND HOPE HE RAPES US SOFTLY. Because, see, I get that bullshit, but from old folks who can't be arsed to remember that the Cold War dynamics have changed just a wee bit. God help you, dealing with assholes with the same lack of brainpower coupled with youthful lib arrogance and gung-ho aggression.
Just look on the bright side, at least you're not in Michigan.
>>30120187
>they can
More like they do. And they've been doing it for ~40 years.
Also, holy fuck how many hits did that tank take before the crew even reacted? And it looked fine when they took off and bailed.
>>30127005
Yep I live near it.
Much of what I hear is
>muh A-10
I could go on this one for a while. Lots of locals think the "gun that flies" is the best thing since sliced bread. But the pilots around here have no opinion since they mainly fly C-17s and stuff. If they have an opinion they are careful not to say it. Really I think the younger people view the argument as retarded, and the young pilots just view WP as just an elaborate UPS shipping center, with the research people basically being an entirely separate branch.
>We don't have jets anymore since going full logistics and research
Funny enough I do recall lots of F-16s and stuf in my childhood, they used to train foreign pilots in the area as part of good will attaches. You will often hear old people and old officers talk about Wright Patt like it used to be in some "Golden Age" where F4 phantoms would fly from here to Hanoi and should down a dozen mig-17s. I get it, you are retired AF, yes planes are cool.
>UFO in hangar 18
This goes back to Roswell. Supposedly the alien ship got taken there. Serious face, there is a whole network of tunnels like a skyscraper's depth of bunkers and labs. I'm not saying there's a UFO, but I know for a fact that the undercity of Wright Patt is locked down and the labs are basically unmarked and top secret. Lots of weird things down there.
You hear all sorts of fun myths about Wright Patt, ranging from bullshit (no the B-2 spirit flights weren't super secret, they were just refueling. I've also heard egregiously exaggerated stealth research a la Predator-tier active camo rather than RAM) to interesting (they actually have a nuclear reactor that used to be hooked into the local power grid, but utility companies bitched about the AF providing electricity basically for free).
>>30120665
That's the joke
>>30126287
That's a strange name for a P-80 Shooting Star
also
>you're just going to shoot it down, why waste the drop tanks?
>>30127198
I wish I could grab every 9/11 truther who crys "there was nothing left of the planes, so clearly planes didn't fly into the towers or the Pentagon!" by the back of their neck and push their nose against the screen and make them watch this
>>30127240
I can hear the colloquial "cyka blyat" even without audio.
>>30127240
>Russians killing Ukies before it was cool
>>30117952
>>30119689
fuck i hate fighting infested terran marines
>>30127253
guess who got raped that day ?
>>30127198
I remember reading that this was to test a new kind of structural armor for things like nuclear power plants and such.
>>30119867
Does anyone have the image of the poorly vandalized Wikipedia article about Ukraine's use of those?
Good thread
>>30127341
Guy survived but holy fucking hell
>>30127341
Little known fact about this gif: the flaming material ejecting from rear of the turbine is actually the soldier's gold jewelry being sucked in and causing small multi-colored sparks.
Both the man and the plane were completely unharmed.
>>30126404
I have always been interested in military technology and especially the technological/logistical hurdles that need to be overcome for the newest tech. I have been reading here and there that the F-22 is a nightmare to work with, but I am far from understanding the complete picture. Could you link me that article you were referring to? I would very much appreciate it.
>>30121086
holy shit! what movie?
>>30127421
Dora The Explore visits Juarez, Mexico
>>30127005
To add to that, you hear a lot of "strategic bombing" talk from the old Vietnam vets and ex COs, and how it's "strategic bombing" and efficient to fly B52s over and drop 15,000 lbs of boom on a "Taliban stronghold" (aka a large farm) to kill 6 dudes plus their goats.
I think they completely forgot the experiences of the last. 50 years, because a lot of people seem to think that if you own the air then nothing matters, you just drone away until people concede defeat...
>>30127127
>muh A-10
Jesus fuckdiddly Christ. The thing nobody seems to account for is that the A-10 is fucking worn out. We're not making them any more, and the ones we've got are just plain wearing out. If you think THE FLYIN GUN is the coolest shit ever, well, shit, I agree, and I think there's a valid argument to be made there, but it's time to build a NEW one. New. NEW.
>Really I think the younger people view the argument as retarded, and the young pilots just view WP as just an elaborate UPS shipping center, with the research people basically being an entirely separate branch.
Pretty much is IIRC; one of the major stopover bases for Air Force logistics flights.
> You will often hear old people and old officers talk about Wright Patt like it used to be in some "Golden Age" where F4 phantoms would fly from here to Hanoi and should down a dozen mig-17s. I get it, you are retired AF, yes planes are cool.
KEK
>This goes back to Roswell. Supposedly the alien ship got taken there. Serious face, there is a whole network of tunnels like a skyscraper's depth of bunkers and labs. I'm not saying there's a UFO, but I know for a fact that the undercity of Wright Patt is locked down and the labs are basically unmarked and top secret. Lots of weird things down there.
They're probably not even wrong considering that "Area 51" ala Groom Lake has that famous reputation due to all the top secret aircraft projects that go on down there. I'll never forget that 90s phenomena of the "FLYING BLACK TRIANGLE WITH A LIGHT AT EACH CORNER" that they all thought was just the coolest new UFO of the last decade. Then they declassified the F-117 and suddenly they were all upset. A stealth bomber? That's not nearly cool enough. Give us back our goddamned black triangle UFO, you bastards!
>>30127127
>to interesting (they actually have a nuclear reactor that used to be hooked into the local power grid, but utility companies bitched about the AF providing electricity basically for free).
Oh yeah, I believe that one; WP was (and as you say, still is) a major research base where a lot of the spooky shit is under active development. IIRC that's the base they tested the flying reactor B-36 out of, in fact. So it's got a long history of AF nuclear research projects.
>>30127127
A fellow Ohio fag!, Where I live there are f-16's flying overhead almost all week from Springfield. We also get the occasional sonic boom too. It's pretty cool to see them at night especially when they drop flares.
>>30127160
>a billionty dollars up in flames
Why did he take off so steeply, oh god
>>30127337
Indeed it was. The US builds a wall/dome this thick around every powerplant we build.
>>30120670
>guy keeps panning to film bomb doing somersaults instead of dropping for cover
>>30127498
>To add to that, you hear a lot of "strategic bombing" talk from the old Vietnam vets and ex COs, and how it's "strategic bombing" and efficient to fly B52s over and drop 15,000 lbs of boom on a "Taliban stronghold" (aka a large farm) to kill 6 dudes plus their goats.
Wow. Oh, wow. It's amazing. Guys like that are like time capsules into how the chairforce was thinking in their day. And, in fact, largely still is.
>>30127270
That crazy bastard rode that out long as hell
>>30119883
If you where the kamikaze pilot's fellow wingmen, would that blast had probably fucked up any nearby planes or would the pressure wave do little?
>>30127535
Yup those are... I believe Dutch pilots. My ex gf's mother worked at the air national guard base in springfield and said they had a bunch of Dutch pilots.
I'm from da field and wish I heard sonic booms, all i get is the same fucking C-17s and occasionally Air Force one.
I wish we got cool shit at WP again.
>>30127541
The FBW spazzed and over-rotated due to water/fuel fouling of the pitot-static ports. Nothing the pilot could do.
>>30127629
I didn't realize some of them were foreign pilots. I wonder if there would be a way to listen to them communicating via shortwave radio.
>>30127601
Yeah, well he ALMOST made it unscathed. Just a little short on airspeed in the flare.
>>30127648
Oh, shit, that'd do it. An uncontrolled pitch-up that early in takeoff is pretty much unrecoverable.
>>30127576
I blame it on family tradition.
Lots of people's dad's were in the AF, and their fathers before that, and the army air corps before that.
The newer and younger people don't seem to feel the same way. It's always fun to blow up hajji, but they know there's a thing called expense.
>>30127519
As far as the A-10, a lot of these old dudes were involved in maintenance and engineering.
They GET that the A-10 is old. They just don't think that there is a possible replacement, they don't think that there could be a new way to do things. They think that the F-16 is "unproven" at CAS, or is ridiculously unreliable (blame the fact that the early F-16s tended to lawn-dart and die).
They simply don't see an alternative to the A-10 in that role. They don't have memes like "titanium tub", because they know that helps the pilot only. They don't necessarily believe in "low and slow" because the AF is always GOTTAGOFAST when possible. They just can't get past the gun.
Naturally they also can solve all problems... If you give their programs just a teensy weeny bit of money....
To be clear, I'm not anti-AF. But I do think the US military branches carry a lot of pettiness towards other branches and the AF is mega-insecure at times. God help you if you mention the army being allowed to have its own fixed aircraft (at this point fuck it, give the army the A10s if they want them so bad).
>>30127172
SERBIA STRONK
>Oh wait
>>30127688
Iirc the military mostly uses a data-based encryption thing, it would mostly sound like a dial-up tone and beeps and trills if you just tried to tune in.
That said, I'm sure there's a way you would just need the right reciever
>>30127149
I remember the story behind this was that the pilot was an insane asshole and he wasn't supposed to be flying because he was already in trouble for pulling shit like this before.
>>30127749
>They just can't get past the gun.
Well, to be fair, that's probably the best argument there IS for the A-10. Guns are stupidly fucking cheap, and very versatile weapons. Which is one reason we still put guns on every plane, no matter what. And the GAU-8 is one hell of a gun. Hell, they've greatly increased its accuracy with a software upgrade; imagine what they could do integrating it into a purpose-built airframe taking advantage of modern tech (such as gun-laying servoes to give it a few degrees of flexibility. Hard to do with the recoil of that beast, but in a devoted airframe...)
"THIS GUN KILLS TANKS" is a tired meme; we all know it had its limitations there but the fact it could do it at *all* illustrates the gun's power. It also gives PGM-like precision without PGM-like cost, (at the painful expense of standoff range, though.) I think a modern iteration of the concept behind the A-10 - with the gun - could be a damned effective airframe.
Or it might just be more cost-effective to spend that money on more PGMs for F-35s, I dunno. I guess the chairforce weenies will have to crunch the numbers on that.
>>30127749
>To be clear, I'm not anti-AF. But I do think the US military branches carry a lot of pettiness towards other branches and the AF is mega-insecure at times. God help you if you mention the army being allowed to have its own fixed aircraft (at this point fuck it, give the army the A10s if they want them so bad).
Hell this is documented fact at this point. And the chairforce worries stem largely from the collapse of the Cold War. Strategic bombing had been their centerpiece since post WWI, when planes were still in their infancy. "One day, we'll win wars all by ourselves." And that's 70-80% of what they spent their effort doing in WWII was strategic bombing. And then along came fucking nukes, and made strategic > everything else. Which they were still clinging to come Vietnam, when it was becoming increasingly clear that the war would be fought via conventional proxy wars.
The well documented morale problems with the strategic missile forces really emphasize this problem in the modern day; the Air Force has seen the vast bulk of its classic mission (since before the Air Force was a separate branch) vanish into thin air, and now they're worried they can't justify their very, very expensive acquisition programs and such.
>>30126379
>Abrams
>Surviving a Kornet
Nothing can survive that giant dildo dude.
>>30127172
how many g's would that pilot feel in that last turn he makes, before shit goes FUBAR?
>Sunk by two Italian torpedo boats.
>>30127836
>>30127854
Yeah I don't disagree that's new gun + software package could be cheap (hence why I mentioned the waste of dropping 15,000 lbs to kill a farm) but the air frames are tired and horridly outdated.
Yeah I've noticed the insecurity. They don't want to be the cyber people either. But let's face it, they move stuff from point A to point B and use the Bones on Taliban. We will see how things look in 10 years, but I'm guessing the USAF will be the video-game murderbot and IT branch, with a small percent actually doing the cool flashy stuff like piloting (which, to be fair, most AF people don't directly work with planes anymore, most do research or whatnot).
Ask any person what the USAF's "job" is and they would need a very complicated pie chart, and if you asked three members of the AF they probably couldn't agree.
>>30127947
oh man, at least with the jets the pilots can eject with that you kinda feel for the guys who realize there is no way out.
>>30127365
Imma need a source on that. How did that not kill him?
>>30127947
that looks fake as all hell
>>30128037
Nope. Plane warned the pilot that it was entering a stall, instead of moving to prevent that the pilot continued the turn. Killed by pilot arrogance.
Killed himself and three other people.
>>30128017
His helmet, which was not tightly strapped around his head, came off as he was sucked into the intake and basically destroyed the engine before his skull did.
>>30127232
I think that's a T-33, and in any case those Fletcher tiptanks aren't droptanks.
>>30128054
I'm talking specifically about the last 7 seconds of the video. The color palate completely changes, there's a weird digital zoom at 58s, there's a weird janky shake in an otherwise smooth video, tripod-shot video, and the smoke in the video is actually more in-focus than the surrounding scenery.
I'm not doubting that event occurred, I'm just seriously doubting that those last 7 second aren't some CGI from a "When Flying Planes Goes Wrong" documentary on the History Channel or something.
>>30128094
Could be that the last few seconds of the footage are withheld due to the investigation into it or something.
>>30127947
This kind of shit makes me wish F-16/Airbus-style hard flight envelope protection (i.e. actually override the pilot's inputs when he does stupid shit, instead of just "suggesting" corrective actions with stick shakers and force feedback) were used on everything. I know it CAN backfire like in [>>30127160], but a pilot going full-retard and fighting the shaker-pusher is a much more common cause of fatal crashes.
>>30128037
>>30128094
Footage of the actual impact itself was never released. That clip is mirrored for some reason, and the last bit is indeed a composite edit.
>>30127854
https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/handle/10415/595/MICHEL_III_55.pdf
Required /k/ reading.
>>30119544
Nice effort trying to recover. You can't say they didn't try.
>>30127388
But how did he survive? I don't know enough about turbofans to see how he wasn't turned to brisket while seizing the engine
>>30127947
Damn, it actually looked like he had it until it started banking left
>>30128515
>fuck
>oh wait no I got it
>wait
>yeah I got it
>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Anyone got that webm of the Apache crash?
>>30128094
The real video cuts off.
I has a contribution!
>>30128549
that an IGLA?
>>30128293
Well well, that's interesting. Thank you!
>>30128549
no but here's a cobra crash
>>30128412
He got caught in the intake, his helmet flew off and borked the engine before he got burninated.
>>30128627
yes
>>30128412
If i remember correctly his clothes got caught on something just before the fins. Helmet went through though.
>>30127340
Yes.
>>30121419
I know an airline mechanic who did something similar, but it was an A-320, IIRC. Had the pin out of the nose gear, but no jacks under the nose- plane does a face plant, which flips a huge bench up in the air. The bench comes down on the area above the cockpit and pierced the fuselage. Bad day.
>>30119534
Jesus fucking Christ.
Will the world ever see combat of this intensity as WW2?
>>30119544
Do their ejection seats have gyros to orient the rockets upward? Seems pretty amazing.
>>30127172
>Straight and level flight
>Shit goes fucking flying into pieces and airframe comes to a total stop and falls like a leaf
These things have the aerodynamics of a log cabin.
>>30127240
Brutal footage. In the full video, the camera operator surveys the path of destruction and finds human entrails and fragments of kids...
>>30127270
How do you fuck up a landing that bad?
>>30118025
Me on the left.
>>30119643
Jesus what if those missiles locked on to the jet?
>>30129420
texting
>>30119976
>jet costs a minimum of $30 million (after an ungodly number of millions already went into R&D)
>Military can payoff the family of a dead pilot for a few million over the next 20 years
Pilots are way cheaper desu
>>30126927
That's an igla...
>>30127725
Sad part was, the plane was doing everything it was designed to do. Due to the pitots being fucked, the plane decided that it's take off was way to shallow,so it corrected the 'error.'
The Maintenance crew really dropped the ball, and the pilots really fucked up for trusting the maintenance crew.
>>30128549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtyUTLeW1g
>>30127388
unharmed my ass. that mutherfucker was, at least, slow to get up
>>30128515
the version of this with audio is fuckin incredible, seems so much more massive
>>30128066
Canopy too small for T-33, it is an F-80.
>>30127289
That rear-seater did a John-Belushi-worthy pinwheel going overboard.
>>30119500
On phone so cba to google but itsa very famous explosion. Easy to google. Afaik like 2/3rds of the crew died, hundreds.
>>30121086
>guy in blue just popping a squat
>>30119563
Strangely enough Russian ejection systems have always been at the front of innovation and effectiveness.
>>30128515
Bet that net/fence/whatever cost more lives in that one incident than it's saved in its entire lifetime.
>>30128535
When you're dealing with dynamic rollover, you can't fuck around. Plant that sucker as hard as you can.
>>30127955
>how many g's would that pilot feel in that last turn he makes, before shit goes FUBAR?
>before
He was straight and level (1 G) when it started falling apart. Hard to say how many Gs he pulled in the ensuing tumble, but I'm guessing six or so.
>>30129386
IIRC it happened because someone forgot to put the wing bolts in. Had nothing to do with the F-117s unique aerodynamics.
Lop off big surfaces aft of the CG (i.e. the tail, or the wingtips of a tailless delta) on any aircraft and the same shit'll happen. See 0:12 of >>30119737, same shit.
>>30126278
Zero-zero capability doesn't guarantee success in every conceivable situation; if you've got a extremely high descent rate near the ground (which pretty much inevitably happens just before every crash if you wait too long) you're still likely fucked (i.e. >>30127134)
>>30127388
I thought it was because his helmet was pulled off, and thus destroyed the jet turbine.
>>30130006
Well when you expect to get shot down or have something break...
>>30130006
>always
Nope, though I will admit that recent K-36 variants are probably the best seats currently available.
>Dem stabilizer struts
>Dat wind blast deflector
>>30128608
Why did he make a sharp turn at full speed it is kinda obvious what would happen.
>>30127784
worse than that, on board was like a retiring colonel or something and it was a commemorative 'last flight in the air force' thing and his whole family was in the crowd.
>>30128683
Asians can not drive or fly
>>30130914
He wanted to be a cool guy.
>>30131092
but full speed sudden turns do not tend to end well because physics
>>30119518
This the Miramar crash from about 6 or 7 years ago?
>>30130013
>>30128535
>intent was to rope soldiers onto the deck for an exercise, not land
>safety officer wasn't wearing his safety officer colors and the pilots were not informed of this, thus they ignored his frantic warnings and instructions
>helicopter comes in too low, too fast, modifies his flight pattern but is still low and fast
>ship personnel assume pilot has changed his mind and is going to land, tell pilot approach looks good, SO continues to frantically signal but is ignored
>ship personnel finally realize something is wrong and frantically tell pilots to power
>helicopter collides, gets snagged, pilots don't realize it, ship personnel don't realize it
>ship personnel frantically tell pilots to power
>you see the results
rubber boats that delivered seals for the exercise rescue who they can but the helicopter rolled in the water causing it to sink rapidly, almost every safety/emergency device on it failed including lighting, 7 go to the bottom with the helicopter
>>30129782
Thats a bazooka dude..
>>30128683
they showed this on tv? I guess the pilot survived then?
>>30130934
pilot doesn't look asian
>>30121086
>>30119885
Fuck you mine's better
>>30131755
Jamie_Lannister_vs_Dorne.webm
