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Why were the south so retarded? Starting a war against the North
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Why were the south so retarded? Starting a war against the North for some retarded bullshit reason, just like the nazis against the world.

And the bad guys got annihilated in both cases
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>>30112737
why is the past tense?
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>>30112737
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>>30112743
They are pretty irrelevant now>>30112746
Its not my fault that history triggers you
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>>30112749
>yankeeniggers in charge of knowing when to use "was"
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>>30112737
>>30112749

>my knowledge of the civil war comes from my middle school social studies class

There is a man named Shelby Foote. He is regarded as one of the best historians that studied the war. Read his books and take a look at the Journal of Military History Civil War Corner. Then come back and shitpost.
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>>30112737
The strategy was to make the North give up and let them be, possibly with some help from the powers of Europe that they were exporting most of their raw materials to. It nearly worked, but the consolation prize was that Lincoln the Tyrant didn't live to enjoy his victory.
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>>30112783
>im a master of pol memes
>redpill urself

What, are you gonna call me a jew next?
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>>30112802
The strategy was "hur nigrs we r retrd let fight lol war war oh shit we losn"

Too much inbreeding and autism
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>>30112811
>studying the civil war to know what happened
>/pol/

Pick one mouthbreather.

If you want to have a discussion of the war, you need to know about it.

If this >>30112814 is the level of though you have on the war then you are a failure of the American education system.
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>>30112746
>que the assmad stormcucks
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>/k/ has garnered yet another theme shitposter
>People are taking it seriously
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>>30112846
American education system is a failure
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>>30112854
>que
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>>30112737

Nazi Germany could have been a conspiracy to depower Europe enough for US domination of the continent. Worked out well for them - US only country to not only get richer during war, but double their GDP. And still occupying Europe today.

As for the American South... maybe the North instigated the war to get full control of the South? Same plan used in Europe later?
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>>30112915
>Nazi Germany could have been a conspiracy to depower Europe enough for US domination of the continent.

You could have been something other than a brainless troglodyte.
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>>30112915

I'm using modern examples of a "weaker" actor trying to wage war against a "stronger" actor right out of the blue for no reason.

NATO and US politicians pushed and backed Georgia to fight Russia in 2008. Same thing with Ukraine today.
Fun fact, the President of Georgia during the time of the war is now a fugitive from Georgia and was installed as a ruler of Odessa in post coup Ukraine. Also the ambassador to Georgia then was the ambassador to Ukraine. And people like John McCain supported both conflicts, etc.

It's a small club. So these conspiracies aren't that far fetched.
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>>30112936

Yeah, it's not like the US aided Germany, from SS uniforms, to retro computers... oh, wait.
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>>30112964
So Ford and Rockefeller, both of whom had a vested interest in the success of Germany, making money off of a war started by man with a funny moustache is now a call for conspiracy.
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>>30113019

Countries biggest oligarchs conspiring doesn't qualify as a conspiracy... what about the president. Does that qualify?
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>>30113036
Ok you nut job.

It was no secret that a large percentage of tires in the Ford plant went to the Wehrmacht in the late 30s and early 40s. it's also no secret that Rockefeller was the second largest share holder in I.G. Farben, a German chemical company.

It's also no secret that Ford had anti-semetic views, he was published saying they were shady, distrustful people. Rockefeller also had some wacky political views, seeing himself as some kind of catalyst for a global society. Which he also published.

No shit we let the morons across the ocean duke it out while we supply them. The U.S. gets out of the depression with manufacturing and our competitors are to busy shooting each other to do anything about it. That was the smart thing to do. Its not like we totally dominated to continent when it ended. The Soviets controlled half of Europe and had influence in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. We knocked out a competitor, Nazi Germany, but also helped create the Soviets as another.
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OPs thread is shit. This bait is jeminez tier in quality
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>>30113278
pol retard is angry
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>>30113292
>everyone who says im retarded is pol
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>>30113145
Care to post sources stormfag?

Also if you shill the confederacy you should be banned from /his/ for lack of knowledge.
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>>30113466
>says nothing related to stormfaggotry
>he must be a stormfag!

Bad troll is bad. Haze yourself.
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>>30112876
I blame the revisionists who dumbed it down for the niggers.
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>>30112737
B8, saged, and back to /pol/
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>>30113512
Tbh americans are dumber than niggers
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>>30113540
Nah, most are at least passably intelligent. Niggers are the ones who bring the average down, otherwise we'd be better off than most of Europe.
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>>30113575
Delusional amerifat >>30113575
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>Nazis
>Confederates
>"Bad"

an hero yourself faggot
btw what's Captcha's obsession with store fronts nowadays?
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>>30113575
>be black
>be smart
>be product of public school system

Don't blame the shortcomings of a white shitposter on us b
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>>30113494
>ignores the fact no sources are posted
Wanna know how I guessed?
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>>30113643
http://orientalreview.org/2015/05/13/wwii-lend-lease-was-the-us-aid-that-helpful-ii/

>For example, John D. Rockefeller Jr. owned a controlling interest in the Standard Oil corporation, but the next largest stockholder was the German chemical company I. G. Farben, through which the firm sold $20 million worth of gasoline and lubricants to the Nazis. And the Venezuelan branch of that company sent 13,000 tons of crude oil to Germany each month, which the Third Reich’s robust chemical industry immediately converted into gasoline. But business between the two nations was not limited to fuel sales – in addition, tungsten, synthetic rubber, and many different components for the auto industry were also being shipped across the Atlantic to the German Führer by Henry Ford. In particular, it is no secret that 30% of all the tires produced in his factories were used to provision the German Wehrmacht.

Fight me irl faggot.
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>>30113630
Kill urself like hitler did pol kiddo
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>>30112814
Nah, he's right. The Union had incompetent generals early on and lost nearly every battle until Gettysburg. Up till that point, there was a real possibility of a armistice and peace with the Confederacy. There were enough people in the Union who unrealistically believed things could go back to the way they had been with the South as a separate country.

Then Gettysburg happened, the South started losing battles and the rest is history.
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>>30112737
The north were the agressors retard. The south wanted to secede which was completely in their right. Lincoln wouldn't have that the greedy authoritarian asshole
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>>30112746
edgy.
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>>30112915
It's an interesting theory. I'm more inclined to believe Europe fucked itself (twice) and the U.S. stepped into the power vacuum and created a soft empire. Prior to WWII, the U.S. had entered a period of isolationism and was turning inward. The "America First" movement was all about staying out of another European war.
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>>30113753
Nope south was retarded like nowadays
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>>30113780
You mean germaniggers fucked europe up twice because of theit inferoity complex
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>>30113799
South is only retarded because of the high concentration of black people. American blacks have an iq of 85 compared to the 98-100 white average. If the south had won, forced integration and Marxists "civil rights" leaders would have never destroyed this country
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>>30113753
two things;

1. States have the right to secede

2. The Union has the right to try to keep itself whole.

The confederacy wouldn't have survived anyway, you can't keep an economy based on slavery when the world's superpowers don't use slave labor anymore.
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>>30113828
You're mostly right; but the Appalachians region has a high influence from the Cavalier/Borderer group, of the four major European immigrant waves that formed the original colonists.
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>>30113799
Which is why manufacturers are moving here in droves. Alabama alone has seen Mercedes, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai, and Toyota build new plants here in the last decade. Swedish company SCA built a Greenfield plant here in 2003. Remington is in the process of moving its entire production to the new Huntsville plant. The South still has a strong work ethic, competitive tax rates, lower cost of living and cheap power.
>hur dur, dumb hicks
Sure buddy. Whatever you say. But I don't live in a socialist shithole with crumbling infrastructure and a punishing tax rate.
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>>30113816
With German heritage, I should take offense to that, but Granddad's family had the sense to get out of Germany in 1904.
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>>30113864
Jeze, i wonder why manufacturers would move to the 5th poorest state in the union to exploit the workers for profit.
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>>30113828
>South is only retarded because of the high concentration of black people

I wonder who brought them here in the first place, HMMMMMMM
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The South had to, economically, because they couldn't compete. Then they locked themselves into a death spiral out of pride instead of biting the bullet like Britain.

Morally they were full tards, ofc, but after the fact a lot of shit anthropologists claimed at the time about black culture, time preference, and crime rates that was deprecated in the post-WW2 rush against racism was re-proved in the 1990s and 2000s when DNA analysis became affordable for the average researcher.

Politically, the Civil War sucked; because preserving the union meant destroying what heretofore was a core US ideology: sorting political allegiances into different geographical regions.
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>>30113900
Yes it was a bad idea in the long run for Europeans to buy them from African slavers. But that doesn't mean the problem won't correct itself. Hell blacks nowadays with their BLack lives matter are advocating for segregation themselves.
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>>30112737
Daily reminder for /pol/ crossboard shitposters; The confederacy was instigated and financed by Jewish slave owners in Charleston SC. The largest synagogue in the western hemisphere was in Charleston. There were twice as many Jews in positions of power in the south than there were in the north.
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>>30113900
The Dutch.
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>>30113859
Dad's side of the family is Irish. The family was one of the first whites to settle North Alabama. One of my great great grandfathers bought land from Chief Doublehead and married one of his daughters some time in the mid 1700's.

Hill folks are stubborn and resourceful and tend to fight at the drop of the hat. Honor culture is still very much alive in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. A lot of people see us as backwards and socially retarded. Maybe we are. But we are survivors. I see the same thing in other Hill cultures. The Kurds of Iraq, for example. While everyone else in Iraq rolled over for Isis, the Kurds fought them to a standstill. If Lee hadn't forbidden a guerrilla campaign, and we hadn't worshipped the ground he walked on, we'd probably still be fighting. As it is, the only reason the Union could reform was the adoption of the "Noble Lost Cause" myth by the former Confederates. The Lost Cause mythology is that the Confederacy was doomed from the start but the cause was worth fighting for. Both of which are bullshit, but it was absolutely necessary for the former confederates to be allowed to save face for the country to reintegrate. Without that fiction, the South would have never accepted defeat and would have carried on with a guerrilla campaign that would have balkanized the country.
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>>30113890
Probably because we show up for work and work our assessment off. But to your point, yeah, compared to former northern plants, we get lower wages. But once you figure in the much lower taxes and cost of living, it works out nicely.
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>>30113780
>You will never live in an America where Lincoln was never murdered, America never got involved in Yuropoor's wars and immigration was strictly controlled
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>>30112746
This picture of the bait is obviously bait
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