It always comes down to the infantryman and his rifle.
>>30088594
and air armor and a supply chain; but yeah.
>>30088594
I was an infantry rifleman and I think your thread is stupid.
>>30088626
>>30088640
its a quote from some baguette vidya
>>30088594
If the enemy's in range, so are we!
>>30088640
I am a infantry and ur a cherry fuck
>>30088594
It's not my war!
>>30088594
>tfw f111c no longer carries 8 mk84s
>tfw devs are literal retards
"I'd rather shoot this ammo than carry it around".
Enemies in the reach zone!
have a taste of my sling goliath
>>30088679
Take a look at the F111E
It has 12 750lb bombs.
>>30088692
This.
>>30088692
>>30088804
They did a lot of good tweaks with the last patch
But overall yes, Eugen is fucking retarded.
>>30088675
My post "I was"
Your post "I am"
Then you call me a cherry. Tell me about peacetime you dumb fucking boot.
>>30088692
>tfw devs are literal french
>>30088888
Quints confirmed.
>>30088692
>tfw EE was the only good one and after that the devs said 'fuck it' to balance and just filled the game with increasingly OP units that would attract easily impressed idiots while creating bullshit metastrategies for autistic tryhards to exploit and make the game unplayable for people who actually enjoy having fun
>>30088729
Sorry sir.
That's classified intel.
>>30088883
Do you even multiple deployments faggot.
>>30089062
>>30088883
Shut up the both of you fgts. Unless your issued rifle was an M1 Garand no one cares.
>>30088942
can confirm
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game is shit
Why do I have the feeling you are about to put our lives to risk?
>>30088942
I enjoyed AirLand battle, until they nerfed the F-111s for no damn reason at all.
I dropped the game and didnt buy red dragon.
>infiltrate enemy base with 2 SAS and 1 HQ Section
>fire two stinger missiles at a north korean mi24 patrolling their base
>two elite stinger missiles miss
>mi24 aquires target, 1 SAS intact the other with 3 men left
>2 SAS missiles again
>both miss
>by this time su24Ms already spotted in the airspace
>mfw
Never ever played this shit again.
reminder they unironically want to release this shit
>>30088731
>US unit
>M1 tank destroyed in the background
fucking niggers
>>30088594
Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way!
>>30088594
The Captain and his crew welcome you aboard!
>>30088594
Unless its in Vietnam and the rifle is an M-16.
Then it comes down to the first AK he finds and picks up. :^)
>>30088594
I liked how each nation has it's own VAs
>vem beställde en taxi?
The only good recce is a dead one!
>>30089085
They nerfed them because USSR players were mad and crying about them being OP because they were used to wipe out entire forests that had their broken as fuck Spetsnaz units in.
>>30089150
That's a mod though.
>>30089112
Eugen nerfed SAS's stingers because of your tactic. Shitters couldn't into recce to defend their reinforcement zone from SF raids so they just nerfed them.
I used to send Canadian Pathfinders + Recce to snipe CV and supply units, then suddenly they can't aim worth shit despite being Elite with 60-95% accuracy.
J O I N. BALANCED GAME
P
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>>30090657
Faggot NATO player detected.
Stinger C is OP.
Recce are OP.
>>30088731
Best quotes from a unit
what game is this
>>30090708
the wargame series
>>30088594
Why do I have the feeling you're about to put our lives at risk?
>>30088594
Drop yer crutches an run u useless bugger!
>>30088692
This, they dropped the ball hard with Red Dragon as well. They could've just patched in Amphibious units to ALB as well as more units and nations, but I guess they got greedy and lazy.
>LAV III not in-game
>no Annapolis class, Mackenzie class, Iroquois class, Halifax class
>entire US navy is missing (class wise) save for 2 ships
You can't have a game set in Asia involving naval warfare without the US Navy, that's just retarded. And naval warfare in the game itself is just pointless, the moment your ship gets seen its sunk by the 30 anti-ship missiles that got launched by the endless waves of rookie-tier jets.
"If the enemy is in range, so are we!"
It's about time I see a Wargame thread on this fucking website.
>>30090673
Go spam more Spetsnaz and T-72's in the forest Boris, my Aardvarks are hungry for insects.
Do you hear that? its the sound of PACT players crying.
>still no NATO vs PACT matchmaking with era settings
This is what helped kill the game as well, every game is the same shit with everyone spamming high-tier units. NATO vs NATO and PACT vs PACT matchmaking is fucking dull.
I tried. I really did. But Eugen just shits out a few patches and then hops on to the next game. Rather than expansions they expect you to pay full price for every unfinished project. Who even plays naval combat?
Fuck Eugen, never again. Fucking cowards who don't ever bother to fix the scaling of their models.
>playing RD 10v10 on strait
>guy full retards at least 20 expensive tanks into an AT clusterfuck
>WOW NICE HELP GUYS FUCKING NOOB TEAM
Every fucking time.
>>30090725
/vg/ had /wgg/ threads up for years, since EE, but it died.
>>30091121
It died because the game itself became unplayable due some Russians (shocker) creating a map-hack. That and the tripfags helped kill it.
>>30090972
Even 10v10 tactical is a lost cause. Too many retards thinking they, and they alone can change the battle with the most expensive units.
>idiot spends all his points on 2 T-64's
>they get spotted by enemy recce unit
>immediately gets raped by TOW2's, ADATS, and mortars
>quits
>ally marks enemy AAA positions
>some dumbass sends harriers to bomb them
>both get shot down by a dozen Shilka's from every direction
>quits
>>30088692
Fact.
>EE has infantry with grenades & flashbangs
>ALB they don't have them, but still use the animation
>>30088594
God, the silos full of nukes help though.
If anyones wondering they added the Dutch army recently, and they got some of the most powerful shit for NATO. practically P2W.
>radar-less I-Hawk system
>tactical missile launcher with 50km range
>strong infantry and airforce
>>30091174
Why the fuck do they not have grenades?
>>30091219
probably would've been OP in urban fights considering infantry can teleport house to house now.
what game is this?
>>30090763
Netherlands?
What?
>>30090763
>HE POWER
>20
>>30091229
The Wargame series. Current one out is Red Dragon. Cold war gone hot RTS on a one battle level with pretty decent attention to detail on the various units presented from a ton of different nations. Pretty much all of NATO, PACT and their allies are here.
>>30091235
DLC, they're adding new nations depending on who screams the loudest.
is the wargame series the perfect example of pandering to much to your userbase?
>>30091271
Seems to be the case
>>30091252
Oh, neat.
>>30091271
>>30091284
As much as I can understand the frustration, I still really enjoy the game.
>>30091293
I really want to enjoy it, it is a awesome idea and the raw gameplay is well made (except for the god-awful naval battles). But I just can't get into it, partly because it's meta (I'm aware that even a 100% realistic game would still have a meta, but I would vastly prefer that to autistic fictional meta)
>>30091308
I stay away from naval. It kinda saddens me that their much hyped killer app was not only broken on release and never fixed, but wasn't even finished, the ships still don't have movement sounds, they just glide silently.
All told I really do like the games, though to be honest most of my time is spent just playing around in PC skirmishes. I never, ever do multiplayer unless I'm playing with my friends, been let down by random teammates too often.
Some pretty hilarious incidents with enemies though, the userbase has a lot of whiny bastards coming out of the woodwork. Like one guy who put up a shitty, halfhearted air defense and then tried to convince us that us exploiting that and bombing all his troop columns to atoms was somehow cheating.
>>30091329
I remember abusing units with suppressors and being called a cheater. Not my fault Eugen coded suppressed weapons to make the units invisible when attacking.
>>30091367
The number of scrubs in the game is pretty amusing when they're on the enemy team. You know, the people who write their own rules in their heads and call you a cheater for not playing by them.
Almost as funny as the guys who blame everyone else on their team for losing despite them doing just as bad, or that one ultranationalist Russian who threw a fit at me in broken english after I beat his USSR deck with my US one.
>>30088731
Is that a quote from the SMAW gunner unit, yeah?
>>30091437
He says something similar about david and goliath but I don't think it's a direct quote.
The Dutch VAs sound like they're fucking stoned and I love it. Their radio sound effect is also cool
>let's rock and roll!
>>30090724
This, they fucked up the Naval Warfare.
>>30092057
I think it's the Polish, not sure, but one of the PACT nations has voice actors that either all sound incredibly gung-ho aggressive, or completely terrified, with absolutely no middle ground.
>teamspeak 10v10 match on redfor
>USSR player commences huge heli rush with mi24s and mi8tvs borne troops
>starts playing the VDV theme on the mic
>>30092048
I think he says, "Man vs. machine...this is David and Goliath all over."
wait, they are adding the Netherlands but not Finland? What where they thinking?
Nations they should add.
Hungary.
Romania.
Bulgaria.
Yugoslavia.
Albania.
Vietnam.
Cuba.
Venezuela.
Iran.
Iraq.
Israel.
Spain.
Italy.
Turkey
How do I get into Red Dragon? I have 134 hours in AirLand, but I cant even make a decent deck now with all the options
>>30091252
So you are saying that I can get glorious two man stinger teams with ATV transport if I yell loud enough?
>>30092471
play Denmark motorized
seriously though, there is a unit guide on steam. I don't think it's complete. But it's usable
>>30090724
Anon, do you have any idea how much ships cost to model?
But yeah, I agree that naval was a mistake.
>They could've just patched in Amphibious units to ALB
No, the Iris engine is very resilient to that kind of thing,a dn they didn't thought of modification beforehand.
They still weren't able to port maps from previous games in Red Dragon.
>>30091271
How so?
>>30092204
South Africa, Portugal and Angola could also be fun
>>30092543
no, because stingers are 2000s purchase and finland is redfor only
because honhonhon, finland would ally with russia in a cold war gone hot t. eugen :-DD
remember, redfor cannot be allowed to be good
>>30091205
The Dutch definitely have great units but they far from P2W
>>30092704
>South Africa
Third world nations have a lot of interesting military units, and I'd pay to see things like the Brazilian tucano or the South African Ratel in game, but these countries did not have any affiliation in the Cold War, or at least, they were constantly targets of proxy dispute.
It would take something like a "Greenfor" faction to be added, so there's Blufor, Redfor and Greenfor.
>>30093071
African armies would look like shit because weapons dont have anyone manning them on vehicles
>>30092763
Except reddit is good with god tier AA and excellent infantry and recon units.
Refor can easily win. Blufor isnt some untouchable entity.
>>30093151
Fucking autocorrect, I meant redfor
Reddit is shit at wargame and gets shit on by the 4chan Wargame group.
>>30093151
of course, redfor does excel at some areas
but Eugen loves to shaft them as much as they can just because redfor can't be allowed to be good
just look at equal point-cost units from red and blu and you'll see a lot of annoying disparity
>>30093223
redfor gets spetsnaz, b-5s, mi24s and two 500 point destroyers. that itself is already enough to make them in equal terms.
>>30093258
>spetsnaz
sapeurs for 3 times the price
>b5
90 point infrared planes eat them for breakfast
>mi24s
get stunned by light machine gun infantry in a town
>500 point destroyers
no use in marine maps unless you want them sunk by sea busters. easy target for ASHMs.
>>30093258
>mentioning naval like it was ever relevant
do you even play the game
spetz are proper and cool, B5s are meme units, Mi24s are neat but nothing special
>>30093290
B5s are meme garbage.
The 135pt Czech napalm MiG is better.
The SU-24m is a great carpet bomber
The poles have a sub 100pt SU-7 with a shitload of napalm.
Spetz are nothing like sapeurs because they fucking rape infantry squads like nothing. The only blufor spec ops that can compare are falschirmjagers or fsk.
KA-52s are gr8, Mi-28s Shrek tanks hard, Lstr-40s are SAS with better SAMs. You have the Buk, the tung, the Tor. Great options all around. I enjoy blufor and reddit, to say Redfor is inferior? That's ignorance. They were inferior, that last few patches really helped them a lot.
>>30088696
>Posts Volkgrenadier
>Not posting the Grenadier with MG42
>>30093369
Fucking autocorrect again. Fuck reddit.
>>30093299
I don't think B5's are meme, but they are only good if the enemy has infrared aa or MANPADS and is slow to react to your bomber. Because otherwise it gets its shit kicked in by anything that is remotely good or if you have enough firepower in the area.
At best they're good in low point games when you can take the enemy by surprise
>>30088888
>>30093369
don't forget the KA 52, heli recon with SEAD is amazing. I pair Ka 52 with a Ka 50 and go to town on enemy vehicles.
>>30093412
they are a good counter to the dutch and west germany as they lack good infrared aa vehicles and their manpads have such short range
>>30093461
Good counter to burger Apaches and French helis.
Redfor has more range on its AA helicopters.
And Mi8MTVs and Mi17s have ridiculously accurate and powerful rockets.
>>30093499
Except for Celtics. But those are only good at the start when everyone heli rushes blind
>>30093499
the super cobra actually has the longest range AA missile of any helicopter but it only carries 2 missiles so it's a poor choice compared to its redfor counterparts.
Also don't forget that some redfor helicopters come with 10 strength allowing them to shrug off small arms fire.
How do you open your game /k/?
I buy one of every unit, two of each when it comes to infantry and CVs.
>>30093612
Napalm on the roads, fire support infantry on the towns, leave one helicopter at home, try to deploy one sniper team behind enemy lines and lots of mechanized units.
>>30092606
>Anon, do you have any idea how much ships cost to model?
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/halifax-class-ffh330-dwg/884391
Maybe $3k tops?
>>30088692
>game set in asia
>all the attention goes to euro units
>>30093412
I find the Mi28's better.
>>30093612
>2-3 recons
>armor group to hold the line
>accompanying AA
>one interceptor to check out for planes and helos
>couple infantry in helos to take towns depending on the map
>some additional CV with token babysitters, two in some cases in 2v2 or more
>infantry and ATGMs to kills the blanks
>points left for counters or napalm/cluster bombs
and remember, AA is like Dakka, you can never have enough.
alternatively
>gun helos
>rocket helos
>ATGM helos
>planes
crash on the enemy CV, win the game
>steadfast REDFOR player
>finally quit the game out of frustration because I could never git gud
>REDFOR gets buffs but my win rate is so shit no one will play with me
It's a damn shame too. The Wargame series is what got me so interested in Cold War and Military history.
>>30092204
That's too many extra nations.
>>30092204
If they did another expansion it would have to be the Mid East, and bump up the date to like 1995.
Add:
Iran
Iraq
Turkey
Egypt
Israel
Syria
As much as I'd love to see the Bush Wars in game too, I don't think they fit Wargame's scale very well.
>>30093774
Eugen should have never made win-rates view-able in lobby. Allowing it just made hosts stack teams.
>>30093663
Have they added any "euro" map yet? They could just take some from ALB if they need something fast.
>>30093979
They can't. They have to redo all the maps manually between games.
All comes down to a man and his tank
t b h
Everything else is a sideshow to the tank fight
>>30094068
To me, everything is a side show to the air game.
>>30094034
Why?
>>30094074
If air was truly a threat to tanks, all tanks would be equipped with AESA radars and be able to shoot at the aircraft
>>30094090
>What are mobile aa and spaag
>>30094112
Never there when you need em m8
Not gonna save you from planes or choppers flying at tree level
I say buy the Netherlands pack.
Not because you want the Netherlands exactly.
But because if enough people support it, we'll see more added on later. Variety is the spice of life after all, who knows what we'll eventually see.
Though we should keep our expectations realistic, it's a bit much to expect a ton of completely new models for 5 bucks, but some new equipment from lesser known sources is a nice addition.
>>30093663
it annoys me to no end, like wtf would scandinavia be doing in korea?
>>30094090
>>30094112
I've always played very air heavy games. If I have air dominance then prepare to have your every advance stopped cold by choppers and strike aircraft.
>>30093579
I fucking hate how every chopper carrying Hellfires fires them faster than it takes the missile to reach the target, resulting in half of the kills as it could have had.
>>30094180
Whats your air power going to do when every tank and IFV is also an SPG?
When CIWS is integrated into every armored unit?
Air power is good for offensives vs weaker foes.
But in terms of bang for your buck, armored ground vehicles will always get you more
>>30094203
That's some next level fucking retarded senarios you just spewed.
>>30094266
The west sees no real need for ground based anti-air
So they spend no money developing it
Doesn't mean tons can't be done
>>30092763
They actually added Finland?
>>30094304
No, he's talking about the guys in the pic >>30094304
>>30094289
>>30094203
The issue with that is that the inclusion of anti-air on every single armored vehicle would make those vehicles considerably larger, heavier, and less mobile. A CIWS needs its own radar and a rather large ammo supply if you want to fire it more than once, all of which eats up a lot of space.
In order to carry all that, you're going to need to make the tank bigger, which makes it a bigger target for everything under the sun. The greater tonnage makes it harder to drive without destroying every road and bridge it comes across.
Unless you're going full BOLO supertank, there's simply not enough extra space or tonnage to have every tank with its own air defense system that's more complicated than strapping a Stinger to the top rack and having someone shoot it out the turret hatch.
>>30094304
They teased it, their post announcing the nation pack concept ended by saying 'who knows, maybe even Finland!'
![12230534424_4192ba343b_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tdXKH8k.jpg "12230534424_4192ba343b_o[1].jpg")
>>30094077
They didn't optimize their engine for retrocompatibility.
The series is full of little moments of oversight and retardation like that.
>>30094203
SPG is artillery anon. The acronyms you're looking for are SPAAG, AAA or SAM.
And tanks and IFVs often have a Manpads strapped on the back when airforces are expected.
But you make an excellent armchair general
On a sidenote, I'm still a bit mad that we didn't got NK tanks with strelas. It would have been glorious.
>>30094289
Anti-Air is for asymmetric cucks.
I only play coop now against Very Hard AI nightmare scenarios.
PvP lost its fun for me because it's all about rushing and map control, while I prefer methodical warfare. It would be better with a no-rush treaty period to set up defenses on your half of the map.
It also needs new ways to determine a winner. The current game modes are crap. And the good game modes, nobody plays.
Vietnam period play is pretty fun though. Although Blufor always gets rekt.
>>30094412
I love the pimp wheels.
>>30094536
Methodical warfare is so fulfilling. Whether I win or lose I still walk away from a fun experience. It's why I like Siege and Squad over generic shooters and early EE over SCII.
>>30094641
If you like methodical warfare, check out Advanced Tactics Gold.
SANDBAGS ARE UP....and my back is out.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3AO38f9.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
Correctus! Chopper! Builden!
>>30094536
>join game
>one side has premade, stacked players with 80+% win rate
>other team has poor lads with 30% win who just want a balanced match
>host clicks play as soon as the last player joins
This game needs normal matchmaking SO DESPERATELY
>be me
>barely played ALB little ago
>join to the party late
>still get to play some ALB before i get bored and uninstall
Does RD still has the "earn most points to win" gamemode? Because all of this posting makes me think they got rid of it.
I was once with 2 other guys against a single guy in redfor.
3v1, the fucker only had one single zone, his spawn.
He won. You know why? because he played smart with cheap units and an excellent defense and fucked heavy and expensive attacks until the game said that we lost. This is why i fucking hate when people make "destroy all units" gameplay. Its no fun when you know defense its not a way to win and the game just keeps going until you die. Did had some fun with the game, but with that gamemode it was the very first time in a RTS in which you could win JUST by having a good defense.
>>30094951
Conquest, earning points by holding territory?
Yeah it's there. It's my favorite.
>>30094951
nobody smart enough would willingly play Destruction in any Wargame, Conquest is the only real mode
>>30094723
This game has like randomized scenarios right? It's all weird and abstracted? Is it kind of like a 4x game crossed with a traditional wargame?
>>30093971
Also allows me to see stats of said stacked teams and avoid them
>>30094752
>pretend they are bags of gold comerades
>>30095044
It has randomized scenarios and also historical scenarios/campaigns. Also a million downloadable scenarios and mods. Everything from ancient times to future warfare and everything in between, and scales from tactical to grand strategy depending on the scenario.
It's not weird and abstracted, and it's way more accessible than it looks. I could never get into those wargames with super complex rules and UI, but this one I picked up easily and am having more fun with it than anything else.
Pic related is my Barbarossa scenario I'm working through. Finally took Moscow in February 1944 (lol). I dun goofed in 1941 and made a huge push for Moscow and got most of my Army Group Center surrounded and destroyed and then I got pushed way back and had to rebuild, hold the fronts, and then resume the offensive.
>>30094412
>strelas on tanks
Give in to uralmod
>>30095026
>>30095028
no, i meant destruction, it was that.
The fact that a single guy could be smart enough to set up a good defense and not waste a lot of points like to hold it against 3+ people, while having only one or 2 command points is proof of a realistic and interesting gamemode where rushing or using expensive stuffs only backfires at you with a 12 inches dildo with no lube
>>30095106
By weird and abstracted I mean in the randomized scenarios you're playing as the "Confederate States of Vince" and your units are "Machine Gun II" instead of "United States of America" and "M1919 Platoon".
I've been meaning to pick it up though, it sounds cool. Has it been on sale before?
>>30092543
ass to dick with your stinger team bro. Probably a pretty tight nit unit.
>>30094812
It's amazing how they are able to remove thegood ideas from their previous games.
RUSE multiplayer was top-notch, and yet wargame is worse.
They've built their fame on massive battles and high level of unzoom, and they give us Act of Agression.
And so on...
>>30095134
Oh, well I actually created that name myself. It was a multiplayer game and we were picking silly names. And yeah, units are generally abstracted in that sense but different scenarios can change that, or you can rename them yourself. You can also develop different models of tanks. The general categories are light, medium, and heavy, and you can upgrade to II, III, IV, and V levels, but then you can also research sub-types like Panthers, Elefants, etc etc.
I'm not sure how often it goes on sale. I think I got it on sale a long time ago, but maybe from the Matrix site and then registered it on Steam? I don't really remember. I don't think it goes on sale too often on Steam though. But the price point is great for the hours I get out of it. I can play Alexander the Great scenarios, ancient Rome, Napoleonic, Civil War, WWI, modern, all depending on my mood.
>>30095152
There is no such thing as gay in the Finish army, only brotherhood.
>>30095134
>>30095165
Oh and if you get it and wanna do multiplayer and/or coop, friend me and hit me up.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197964619750/
>>30095202
I might wait awhile. Could afford it but I should keep playing some other games as is first.
The scenario bank is built into the game itself, right? I can't really find any for download.
Are there any tactical-level WWI scenarios?
>>30094812
I'm glad i'm not the only one that has this happen to them. My Win/loss rate took a nosedive from 70% to %57 and now no one want's me In their games.
>>30095224
I'm not sure if there are tactical WWI scenarios. I did a grand strategy WWI scenario once and it was a lot of fun, and challenging, as Germany.
A lot of the scenarios and such are here, but people also host them at other sites too. I usually just look here or google what I'm looking for.
http://www.vrdesigns.net/community.php
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=495
>>30095264
Oh, so it's not an in-game scenario bank? Thought I read that somewhere.
![cbdec[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DgATyB0.jpg "cbdec[1].jpg")
>>30095224
Oh and if you want a more focused, historical game check out the Decisive Campaigns series. Same dev, same game engine, but with better artwork and way more detail. Focused on specific campaigns. The latest one, Barbarossa, is a cool roleplay/strategy hybrid. You have to make decisions along the way and manage different personalities of generals and make moral decisions. You have to balance Hitler's wishes with your general's wishes and the SS wishes, not to mention winning. Pretty cool concept. I haven't bought it yet but I will. I think this will be a huge feature in the future for wargames - hybrid roleplaying/strategy.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/454530/
>>30095320
ummm I'm not sure. I know that scenario install is super easy. Just drop files into the folder, or use the "Install Zip/File" option from the game to do it automatically.
>>30095370
I'm not hyper interested in strategic stuff, mostly tactical and operational. I've played a few John Tiller games which are one sperg tier down from Gary Grigsby's War in the East. The roleplay element sounds cool though yeah.
![3BCA3060F79E15E83EF98BDD25F0B1283ED39916[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/na0CRsc.jpg "3BCA3060F79E15E83EF98BDD25F0B1283ED39916[1].jpg")
>>30095409
Gotcha. Operational is my favorite level. Not a big grand strategy guy. I LOVE logistics. This game has the best logistics of any game I've played, along with Unity of Command.
Models supply lines and fuel consumption. I played one game and totally didn't think about my fuel and my armored offensives ground to a halt and I got smashed - I learned my lesson.
>>30095445
So what hex and unit scale are these two at? It looks like a fairly small scale with some fairly large maps.
>>30094723
>>30095202
How much time you got put in? Was it easy to learn the basics?
>>30095532
I'm not sure what those scales were. Some can be really tiny, some can be global. Just depends on the scenario.
I have about 100 hours in now but it was really easy to pick up. Like I said, I never got into wargames because they were too complex, but I can handle this. The manual is very good and the UI is very good/intuitive.
The one big thing that can really trouble new players is stacking. In games it's always an issue: Civ IV had mega-army doom stacks, which Civ V "solved" by only allowing one unit per tile. Just an example.
At least in the base game (dunno if different scenarios change it), this does stacking by weight - each hex can "support" 100 weight. You can overstack to your heart's content (5000 weight if you want), but when you attack a hex and weigh over 100, you receive extra casualties. So, the ideal attack on a hex is from 5 different sides, with 20 weight each. But lots of noobs make units of 50 tanks (each 20 weight IIRC, so they'll attack from one direction with 1000 weight and then get mad that they lost a lot of tanks.
Hopefully that makes sense. Sorry, I kind of went off on a tangent. But that's just an example of probably the most complex combat element, which is simple once you understand it.
Oh, and you can create massive clusterfuck maps if you really want to fight a long, drawn out war like pic related.
>>30095611
Yeah I understand what you're talking about. Aren't there 4x scenarios where you can found cities and stuff too?
>>30095864
Yeah there's 4x stuff. Not sure about city building but some mod/scenario probably does it.
>>30092189
Eugen hates Funland.
>>30095963
If Eugen hates anyone it's the US. Gimped as fuck for """"balance"""" so that little meme countries like Czech Republic can compete.
>>30096064
desu why doesn't Eugen doesn't abolish smaller nations like the Czechs to coalition decks. Like, instead of adding the Netherlands, there would be a Belgium-Netherlands coalition, and instead of Czechs, there would be Czech-Austria/Other small power or bigger power, that way bigger nations wouldn't have to be gimped so that individual countries would have to compete.
>>30096320
>Czech-Austria
Ah yes, the communist republic of Austria. A staple of the eastern bloc
>>30089061
SNAAAAAAAAAAKE
>>30094536
Its been awhiles but does that memorial mean that he lost an m1 to a Strela? How?
>>30096714
USSR kills are to the left of the USA kills.
The T-64BV1 killed the Abrams.
>>30094810
Prestore
>>30094810
shhhhhh ahh
Lead.... follow me... or get out of my way!
>>30096320
Nigga what? At least the czechs have unique models.
I wish they would unfuck North Korea and make smaller nations more fun to play.
>>30097435
>>30097449
wolololo
>>30095121
I downloaded it but can't figure out how to start using the mod. Whenever I launch WGRD I get the vanilla game.
>>30097524
NK is shit in game because NK is shit irl.
>>30097524
>>30097687
I find them pretty powerful.
They also work well in an alliance with Russia, russian top tier hardware and Nork spam unis.
Nam era play where the Redfor gets Inf witout vehicle support unless NVA is so fun. Especially if you just fucking ignore cap zones. Played some rounds where players have to take certain hilltops, or towns. If someone captures 2/3rds of the giant city they win. Usually fun with buddies.
Fuck vanilla game.
>>30098171
That sounds awesome. I've done some Vietnam play but nothing like that.
Care to drop a name so I can play with you?
LET LOOSE THE JUICE
>>30098234
>>30098171
also interested
>>30098234
Admiral_Trollington <-- Steam ID
I don't have it installed right now, Im on an arma phase, exclusively the 7thCav Nam mod for more jungle goodness.
Test
china will grow larger
>>30098254
I'm Vince McMahon, I'll friend you. I'm in no rush to play.
>>30098171
>>30098476
Is that from Turok?
>>30098499
I see where you're coming from, actually
But no, it's from the third issue of Punisher Born. It's about Frank Castle's time in Vietnam.
>>30098533
Gotcha thanks.
>>30093371
volks have some of the best lines
>goddamnit volksgrenadiers, try actually aiming!
>when it's clicking like that you have to reload!
>new MP40s, try not to shoot yourselves, eh?
>must have raided the hilfzschutz to find new replacements
>volks grenadiers ready... for what it's worth
fucking CoH1 had god-tier VA
>>30088696
shoulda joined the navy!
>>30098613
Yeah, to get blown to bits on the Bismarck or drowned in a u-boat. Or drowned while sleeping on the Tirpitz. I guess the Graf Spee guys did alright. Blucher, not so much.
>>30098581
COH 2 has some really good ones too, esp the ostruppen. So weird and defeatist, until their they're yelling for their goddamn lives. *enjoy the war intensifies*
>Uhg....osttruppen here
>KILL ZAT TIGER....somehow
>we'll...try to take it
>ready...as we'll ever be
>this shit is getting tiresome...
>enemy MG is FUCKED!
>we fucked that mortar crew up
>contact FUCK (voice crack) ITS AN ELEPHANT
>DEATH TO COMMUNISTS!
>>30098628
It's just a COH 1 shout, not a serious suggestion
KOMMUNISTEN!
>>30098724
Shut up and let me enjoy my autism.
>>30098745
I'm pretty drunk, believe me, i really don't mind. and dat Graf Spee, such honoru.
>>30098736
SOWJETISCHE TRUPPEN!
>>30098736
TELEFONMAST
>>30098767
Graf Spee is my nigger
>>30093774
Reset stats
(morse code sound effect)
ALLIES has captured CONTROL POINT A
(marching song)
>>30098806
SALITATAA
![No-One-Lives-Forever-1-0-1-Trainer_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/s5ZKmTE.jpg "No-One-Lives-Forever-1-0-1-Trainer_1[1].jpg")
Berlin Contact: I seem to have lost my phone number. Can I borrow yours?
Cate Archer: I'm in the book. Under "police department".
Berlin Contact: Why must I be made to say such stupid things?
Various: [complaining about airline food] This food is terrible.
Various voices: The potato salad isn't bad.
Various: That's not potato salad; it's cottage cheese!
Various voices: [Retching sound]
HARM Agent: Hard rain is falling, everybody down!
Dmitrij Volkov: Keep your men out of sight. We don't want to spoil our trap, do we?
HARM Agent: Yes sir! I mean, no sir! I mean, yes to the first part and no to the second part, SIR!
Dmitrij Volkov: Shut up. Just do as I say, you idiot.
Berlin Contact #1: Guten Abend Fraulein, do you make love to strangers?
Cate Archer: Certainly not!
Berlin Contact #1: Then allow me to introduce myself.
East German Guard #1: Haha, did she really say that to you?
East German Guard #2: Ja, can you believe it?
East German Guard #1: So what did you do?
East German Guard #2: What do you think I did?
East German Guard #1: I know what I would have done!
East German Guard #2: Then you have your answer!
East German Guard #1: So, how was she?
East German Guard #2: What do you mean?
East German Guard #1: You know what I mean!
East German Guard #2: No, I don't.
East German Guard #1: I thought you said you... you know?
East German Guard #2: What? I didn't say that!
East German Guard #1: What did you say?
East German Guard #2: Why do you even have to ask?
East German Guard #1: I didn't think I had to ask, but I guess I was wrong.
East German Guard #2: You should get your mind out of the gutter.
East German Guard #1: Geh zum teufel.
We have a moving vehicle here.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DD9y4rg.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
2, is down.
Man, three o'clock.
4, target, man, three o'clock.
4: Roger
>>30094536
Soviet doctrine was alot about rushing road columns to certain places in certain orders and timings, so that stress is realistic as its a meeting battle.
pact should have an advantage in a meeting battle too
>>30093071
+1 Would be awesome to see 'lesser' nations - Would be like playing JTF over again
>>30098939
dude what the fuck, i didn't play that game for 10 years, but reading your post i instantly hear the ingame comm voices in my head
i didn't even see screenshots for years, but now i realize bohemia actually didn't change that much, looks just like chernarus or even altis
fuck i loved resistance and red hammer, operation flashpoint/arma never got any Ssp campaigns after that got close to those.
>>30099102
Agreed man. Those games were amazing. Arma is still great but lacks a certain "it" factor that the original had. The Resistance campaign was freaking amazing. And that editor...
I used to set up huge battles across that one massive bridge, man that was fun.
This isnt something about NATO units only that has me pissed.
They gave the Netherlands a fucking Tac missile.
They gave the US a fucking Patriot battery along with a F117.
Where is Luna-M, S300 and Tu 22M3 for PACT ?? And where are new PACT nations ??
They put a Mig 31 in the game but nerfed its weapons. I have had Mig 31s shot down by shit NATO air (80 point units).
GIVE BALKANS MOTHERFUCKER !!!!!!
>>30094951
>>30095126
Can you share the replay file ?? I am intrigued by this ))
>>30099421
Dumbass. Pact gets units that don't even exist and are way out of the timeframe. US should get the F-22.
Pact babbies are morons.
EVAC WINCHESTER
>>30099718
Russia had a ton of stuff too that didnt make the cut. I am just saying give us equivalent units. S300, Tu 22M3, and Luna M were all very much of the time frame. And do you forget the shear numerical superiority of the PACT forces that this game just plain out ignores ??
>>30098939
3, ENGAGE THAT: RIFLEMAN. 1 o' CLOCK!
7, INJURED!
>>30099551
Sorry senpai, that was a long time ago, i dont think i did a replay of it anyways and i already uninstalled the game.
There was another time in which it was a conquest gamemode, we were winning the points HOWEVER the enemy was advancing.
We had to literally wait 2 minutes more to the clock to run out since we had more points than them, but we were on literally no fucking capzone with no air corridor in a fucking peninsula with all of our 3 guys units hunched together in a forest waiting for the time to run out while the enemy was spamming choppers and napalms to kill us all to win.
Shit was tense because they were getting closer, so was the clock.
At the end they won....... at 5 seconds left in the clock.
Picture it. 2 hurt infantry units in a fucking patch of wood getting overrun by enemy heavy armor and infantry and air assets and if they lasted 5 seconds longer we would win the game.
Shit was cash. Reading this thread makes me want to get EE just to experience some more balanced gamemode.
>>30099915
fuck off i've had enough of wargame and i wont touch it until US Rifleman '90 have shock training just like mot schutzen. FUCK EUGEN
>Uralmod still not updated
>>30098581
fucking RELIC had god-tier VA.
Their shit is unsurpassed
>>30099915
>game attempts to encourage USSR/Pact swarm + redundancy tactics by nerfing accuracy
>prices and availability remain inferior to NATO minors
lel
>>30091252
Surprised the Merkavafags haven't whined enough to Israel in yet.
>>30101091
Israel v Syria circa '85 would be a pretty great scenario
>>30096398
>tfw no alt timeline Cold War Austria-Hungary
>>30101040
Vasily hasnt left us, r-right?
>>30088626
Found the pog
>>30094168
getting culturally enriched
>>30098171
>>30098234
>>30098251
>>30098254
>>30098383
There is now a group in steam for the Red Dragon Vietnam stuff, feel free to join.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RD-Vietnam
>>30101402
t. Admiral_Trollington
In a conventional war could arty be used effectively against helicopters?
>>30101780
yes
>>30099832
Must have been Canadian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPnJM66XIk
This hasn't been true since before Napoleon. Maybe a few zerg rushes in WW2 and Korea, that's about it.
>>30101780
Had my choppers be destroyed once due to arty when they were landed to pick up my last delta team from a guy WAY above my leage.
>>30102245
>Watch major airborne op move
>PACT player sees it
>Waits for them to get near what he guesses is their LZ
>SMERCH intensifies
>Dead Helos errywhere
>>30102206
kek, what an amazing way to lose as USSR in five minutes
>>30102257
lol no.
>guy would destroy my recon with AA that my recon couldn't see
>he would always find out where my shit was and destroy it
>his range was always better
>genuinely had the suspicion he was cheating
>had my FOB near him and a few deltas in a house nearby
>decide to say fuck it, and move everything somewhere else
>in this moment i wish the game could let me do like real life and pack up the FOB to relocate
>pull all of my shit somewhere else
>forgot the last deltas
>send UH-60 to pick them up, hollywood style
>as the choppers take off arty barrage stikes down and destroys them
>repeatedly press F to pay respects
>i was never able to see where the fucker was coming at.
>>30102269
>losing in 5 minutes
You want me to be completely honest?
That was one of the most amazing matches I ever had.
It was a 4v4 on some large map. The one with a sausage sector in the middle of the map with a bridge, two towns in each of the ends, a river across the whole map cutting it horizontally, and several sectors along it. I don't remember the map's name.
That fellow started the game with a heli rush when everyone else was advocating for a normal game. The heli rush failed badly, and right off the bat there was a difference of +1200 points, and the middle belonged to Blufor. And Blufor has also dominated the right, pushing fowards.
The time marker says there's still 40 minutes left of battle. What this retard does is he convinces everyone to start buying mi24s and the like to start an heli rush. It goes that, for 20 minutes, we do not deploy a single ground unit, only helicopters, and stack them up.
With 20 minutes left for the battle to end, a shit ton of MI24s, KAs, MI28s, all sorts of planes and MI8 transporting different types of infantry, and two mi4 cvs, start thrusting towards BLUFOR spawn.
With over 70% of casualities the helicopters make it to their deployment, one of the CVs was shut in the middle of the air, and the other was taking small arms fire, being stunned by a light riflemen from a NORAD player. Almost destroyed, the CV lands safely after MI8s blow the fuck out of light riflemen, and now BLUFOR sees itself surrounded along the river.
With no deployment zone, NATO surrenders.
>>30101402
Do you use mods?
I played some Vietnam-themed games with friends, we used to get the infinite deck mod to have period accurate decks.
One round in particular where the US was swarmed bfrom every side and had to control an airport to be able to call planes. It was intense.
Too bad there aren't towed pieces in the game.
>>30098939
Oh god, the memories.
7, taking command.
[shit pants internally]
Hey, anyone from /k/ want to ever play some AirlandBattle sometime?
>>30102666
I'd have to reinstall, but sounds fun
I really with Eugen would just release the source code so we can do things like Warhammer 40k mods and what not
>>30102666
Just buy RD you poor nigger
>>30102697
it's all in french, so you'd have to wait until someone does a project to translate all of the source code first
>>30102697
>>30102858
Fuck Eugen.
Stupid Frogs don't ever post any source code for any of their games, which kills its playability.
Ever heard of Act of War or Act of Aggression, yeah all dead because no mods and therefore no longevity.
It annoys the hell outta me when they talk about the golden age of RTS when one of the most important parts of that age was mods literally pushing the engine as far as it goes. I mean some of the biggest pc games in the world now are based off old RTS mods for warcraft etc.
>>30102801
ALB is more balanced, more fun than RD
