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ITT, pictures of things that people do to get around firearms legislation.
All comers welcome. In fact, it would be nice if we could try to make an effort to avoid California specific firearms, since we all know what that looks like at this point anyways.
What am I looking at here?
>>30056875
UK legal handguns, apparently.
They'd have to be chambered in .22, since they're semi-automatic.
Whats up with the stick coming out of the bottom?
>>30056904
Makes it so you can't conceal it, afaik
>>30056904
Pistols have a minimal oal. Since a 20 inch barrel wont work well with a browning drop link semi auto, they add a little cuck stick to the back of the guns
>>30056992
thats so fucking sad it physically hurts.
>>30056921
>>30056992
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck, that's so dumb.
new york fag here. we have this thing called the safe act. check it out, its tyranny. anyways, I'm building a compliant ak. this is what it'll look like when finished.
SBR laws are so retarded.
>>30057086
Why not just build a non-compliant AK?
>>30057086
funny
with such a shit grip, righties will wind up using it as originally intended, using the left hand to just hold it, and doing everything else with the right hand
>>30056775
They can at least slap a stock on to get some use out of that overall length need, right?
They're only choosing not to for an original-as-possible look, right?
>>30057091
i agree but whats so bad about that? you're going to put a can through it anyways.
>>30057086
Fuck the law be a free man and get a real ak
>>30057099
because class D and class E felonies are a lot worse than having to build a compliant rifle
http://www.scopeny.org/safe_act/
>>30057208
I agree completely. That's why you need a full auto AK.
>>30057034
>>30057021
Fun fact, the crazy long Buntline special editions are pretty much only bought by people in the UK, since it meets the oal length laws without any modifications (done purposely, Earp definitly never used anything that long) and is single action, so its (relatively) easy to get permisson to own one. Nobody buys this shit in the us. Although id consider getting one in a ridiculous magnum caliber and slapping a scope on it.
>>30057173
Yeah basically. They call them Long Barreled Pistols and Long Barreled Revolvers. They use the metal rod coming off the bottom of the pistol grip just to increase the overall length so it isn't classed as a handgun anymore which is banned.
They don't put a stock on it because they don't want a rifle, they want as close to a handgun as you can get.
Does anybody know a viable way to cc in NJ? Do I need to have proof that my life has been threatened?
It's such bullshit, all I see is a thousand ccw threads all day and I feel like I'll never be able to participate.
Pic unrelated, I would never cc my Tokarev.
>>30057182
SHALL
>>30057266
Go put and have a buddy rough you up, black eye, bloody nose, etc. File q police report saying you got robbed and beat by some dindus, take pic, and repeat. Say it was the same people who called you out by name, and that youre being targeted for some reason.
>>30057277
NOT
>>30057311
INFRINGE
>>30057346
WUZ
>>30057346
INFRINGED
>>30057086
>safe act
Safe for who?
>>30057383
Criminals, including many police.
>>30057182
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ASKING TO INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS NOW? SERIOUSLY!!! #AMMOSEXUAL
![pistols3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/znRX8FA.jpg "pistols3[1].jpg")
>>30056875
UK legal "handgun"
>>30056775
Revolving carbines in australia make us believe we have low capacity semi autos with 12pound triggers
>>30057356
KANGZ
Ausfag reporting in, obviously semi-auto rifles are a no-go so we made a straight pull AR15. The bolt is spring assisted so you only need to pull back after firing, and then let the bolt slam home.
>>30057208
It's not a felony if your law enforcement refuses to enforce an unconstitutional law.
>>30056775
New Zealand legal AR15
bought a $10 plastic bipod, cut a leg off, drilled the grip and stock and screwed it in place to make a 'thumbhole' grip. Now my rifle is legal.
However, a policeman is allowed to say it is not if they are having a bad day. And then we have to take them to court.
>>30057266
just fucking carry. It's called "concealed" for a reason. When was the last time you got the pat down anyway? It's easier for your family to get you out of prison than the morgue.
>>30058058
here is another thumbhole grip, this one is made of wood.
>>30058007
i want to feel sorry for australians, but your new immigration laws against new zealanders kinda just makes it funny. now you know it feels to be fucked by the australian government eh?
>>30058058
It just can't have a pistol grip? What an arbitrary rule. Can you have handguns in NZ?
>>30058058
Wait, so you're required to have thumbhole stocks on rifles?
And yet in California they're required to NOT have thumbhole stocks. Top fucking kek.
>>30058007
>recoil spring in an ar15
fascinating, tell me more
>>30057394
I work in that huge downstate department in that huge city that's full of social justice progressive libtards that I won't be specifically naming, and I can pretty confidently say that the majority of rank and file cops think that NY SAFE act is bullshit and believe that lawabiding people should be able to get CCWs.
Just because Bloomberg/Kelly and DeBlowsio/Bratton are limp wrist statists doesn't mean that we agree with them.
>>30058110
all semi automatic firearms must not have:
>free standing pistol grip
>folding stock (police interpret this as any adjustable stock)
>bayonet lug
>flash suppressor
>shoulder thing that goes up
>magazine larger than 7 rounds, or appear to hold more than 10 rounds
but there is another licence you can get where you register all your firearms and spend a ton of money and you can get whatever firearm you want.
>>30058158
>>30058103
>>30058058
last one, a butchered a2 stock
>>30058105
yes but you have to register them all and become a policeman's bitch. I have some friends who tell me it isn't so bad, the officer is very gentle.
>>30058158
>shoulder thing that goes up
wot
>magazine larger than 7 rounds, or appear to hold more than 10 rounds
You mean even if it holds 7 rounds, if it appears to hold more than 10 its bad?
I'm confused.
>>30058158
>flash suppressor
And yet they allow to use sound suppressors which also suppress flash what the fuck.
>>30058158
Sorta sounds like NY to me, except that thumbhole stocks are considered pistol grips there I think.
I heard they struck down NY's 7 round magazine law, because they're damn near impossible to find. You can own a 10 round magazine, but it's a crime to load more than 7 rounds in it
>>30058200
>You mean even if it holds 7 rounds, if it appears to hold more than 10 its bad?
That is correct.
In their own words, most of these strange rules are to discourage the 'wrong' kind of firearm owner, one that is only interested in obtaining 'rambo-style weapons' with no practical purpose.
The shoulder thing that goes up is an important piece of any ghost gun, without it you cannot fire 30 round calibre clips.
>>30058242
>In their own words, most of these strange rules are to discourage the 'wrong' kind of firearm owner, one that is only interested in obtaining 'rambo-style weapons' with no practical purpose.
Sounds like your lawmakers are a bunch of fudds, basically.
>>30058242
what a hell hole. living with all those monsters and you cant even properly defend yourself
>>30058110
Fucking redicous isn't it?
>>30057383
Burglars
>>30057607
so wait you could have like a sw 500 with a 20inch barrel and that would be fine and dandy ?
>>30058373
It's straight up redonkulous
>>30057086
Hey are thumbhole stocks ny compliant?
>>30057232
A friend of mine has one in .357 its fun to shoot.
>>30058111
>>30059156
>>30059171
Damn that's pretty cool
How may dollarydoos did that cost you?
>>30059171
I kinda want one just for the novelty of it
>>30057266
>Do I need to have proof that my life has been threatened?
They only accept applications claiming this if you are a private security guard or own a 7-11, or jewelry store, something like that. Living in the bad part of town is a reason why they would deny your application
>>30058269
> at least im not the only one that thought of this
>>30058596
I'm guessing no. Most "evil features" bans in the US include thumbhole stocks along with pistol grips and folding/telescoping stocks in the language of the bill.
>>30059192
They start at $2500AUD
You gotta remember, this is all built from scratch by a few guys in a small workshop. It's the price you pay for Australian engineering seeing as Customs has banned the Troy PAR from import based on looks alone.
>>30058007
So it's just an AR that someone forgot to put a gas block and tube on.
>>30059541
Pretty much... the bolt is very similar to other designs as is...
im so fucking glad i live in idaho
>>30059558
>tfw Texas
I wish I was older when our family was getting rid of my great-grandpa's old guns after he died. I was too young to remember too well, but I think he had an 1892 Lebel revolver in his gun cabinet, among the various rifles.
>>30059518
Some dealer was talking about still trying to get the PAR in through a loophole / lawsuit, but I'm not holding my breath
>>30059557
>vomit
>>30058103
>"Immigration laws against new zealanders"
Its fucking Australia cunt, not NZ. We have every right to control our borders. Something like a quarter of your population come over here to work. What makes you think you have some special right over anyone else to an Australian visa?
Why don't you un-fuck NZ with its absurd socialist bullshit instead of getting indignant that you can't just hop the fence to our slightly-less-insane socialist bullshit.
>>30059664
Both AUS and NZL need to become part of the USA
Chile here, center fire semi autos are a no-no, this is how people goes around that.
1st: Common pistols with a stock.
>>30059699
Proguns can come here, your noguns should remain in the penal colony and emu containment continents.
Could be much worse, but barrel length restrictions here in Canada are fucking stupid (4.2 inches, just to ban all the 4 inch guns). Consequently smaller handguns often have slightly extended silly barrels, or with some guns (like the Glock 19/23 and shorter PPQ) we can only have the threaded barrel versions for the little bit of added length
What is the fucking deal with barrel shrouds. I honestly can't wrap my head around it. What an arbitrary feature of a firearm to attack.
>>30059777
All of them are pretty arbitrary features to attack.
>>30059777
If barrel shrouds aren't okay then neither are handguards. If you're gonna kill babbies with your Assault Rifle 15 then you should get some ouchies on your hand while you're at it.
>>30059777
nearly all features that lawmakers attack are arbitrary because they don't know how guns work
>and they don't realize that banning certain features doesn't do dick to change the lethality of a gun anyway
>>30058279
it's alright we have ancient aboriginal art of how to throw a spear for fucking miles so it's not all bad.
>>30058058
It's not so bad
>>30059853
Austria at its finest, crippling rifles for "fun"
>>30059853
Eew they could have done that better, I mean they are fucking custom gunmakers
>>30058007
That's pretty damn cool dude.
>>30059664
Your new laws are make it harder for NZ immigrants specifically, meanwhile the immigrants you're letting in instead will jihad the fuck out of you if you try and stop their mates coming in.
Dude, like I said, I almost feel sorry for you, but australians are fucking dicks. Have another fosters and watch the fuckin v8s maaate.
>>30059777
>>30057086
fug feel bad for you bro down here in texas i have a ar15 and a 1911 with no restrictions like mag size
>>30060164
>1911
You just resricted yourself voluntarily
>>30058242
lel 30 caliber clips
>>30060182
yea i dont need much with a 45 cal.if u do u ether a bad shot or too many ppl to shoot
>>30059156
>>30059171
Is there a reason they didn't just keep the spring and buffer of the AR design?
>>30058058
Strange how almost all former British properties end up like this.
>>30058142
And yet they keep getting re-elected.
>>30058224
Because when that got added legislatures and lobbyist seriously believed a flash suppressor hides the muzzle flash making a gun nearly invisible. Yes I'm being serious.
>>30059300
Wait.
>live in bad part of town
>want a legal gun to defend myself from illegal gun wielding baddies
>No you may not have a legal gun to defend yourself as you live in a bad part of town
This makes no sense.
>>30060230
lel so they worry more over a flash
suppressor over a silencer
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>>30058158
Wait, so no flash supressor but sound suppressors are 100% upregulated in NZ?
What?
>>30060236
For some reason this reminds me, but here's an amusing/infuriating component of Canadian firearms laws: we do in fact have a CC license called an ATC that can (theoretically) be issued to people. You have to have had people try to murder you AT LEAST 3 TIMES, verifiable by the police, before they will even consider it (and probably still say no)
>>30060237
Pretty much. Remember these people don't know ANYTHING about how guns actually work.
>>30060257
You have got to be shitty me
>>30060265
dam some gun control is retarded.here in texas you cant have a silencer unless you got a license for it and it has to be for hunting
>>30060288
Wrong fellow Texan. 200 bucks for a super special stamp and you can have one suppressor. Granted I would use it for hunting but you can have the suppressor for whatever reason. I believe it runs a background check too.
>>30060257
dafuq i dont need eny of that here in texas. all you need is a class and pay for the permit.there are some loop holes were you can have it in your property,btw if your car is under youre name u can have it in there
>>30060300
dont u need a special license or say its a barrel cleaner?
>>30060288
>dam some gun control is retarded
All gun control is retarded.
>>30060283
True story. They would legitimately rather people just let themselves be murdered than engage in any form of self defence. It's actually illegal to carry any object if it's purpose is self defence, you can get away with carrying something like a small knife only if you can use some other excuse ("it's for opening boxes at work", etc.)
>>30060321
wb peper spray or tazer?
>>30060322
Both illegal to own. "Bear spray" is the only exception
>>30060328
fuck man feel bad for you. I own two firearms and still want more. makes me appreciate what i own and how easy it is to own one,not that it is in eny way still got background and shit
>>30060342
I have 7 firearms, 4 of them handguns. Just can't legally own them for self protection. I've entertained the idea of one day moving to the US, just sick of my liberal faggot government
>>30060349
come to texas we are /b/ros cc is easy to get
>>30057607
why not put a stock on it
>>30060313
Nope.
>>30058103
Is it wrong that I think that actually looks kinda cool?
>>30059725
In America that's an SBR. Jesus fuck gun laws are stupid.
>>30057232
In a powerful calibre, with a bipod and scope that could actually be a nice hunting weapon.
Mine's a little different, but I have one of these things, it's an upper from a company called mechtech that fits onto my glock frame.
I'm not entirely sure why sbr legislation exists but the law considers these pistol accessories.
>>30059300
>Own a 7-11.
I own a buisness too, and our trucks regularly go through Camden. Does that make me eligible for a CCW?
>>30059725
So you can have semi-auto centerfire rifles, but no semi-auto centerfire pistols, and you guys define "rifle" as anything with a stock regardless of how long the barrel is?
>>30057086
I'm fucking English and that makes no sense to me. How's that safer for anyone?
>>30057232
Kind of want one
>>30057607
Would have with a stock
>>30060439
Never made sense to me either
I'm saving for all the shit I need to get before I can start buying. Safe, license etc... Bollocks
I believe however since an "obsolete" firearm (old muskets of a certain age) don't need licensing and nor does pyrodex that's an idea. Though I'm going to have to go the long route since I want a smelly
>>30057208
Do it, win the law suit, and uncuck your entire state all in one go.
>>30060685
>implying you can out jew the jew york legal system
If only anon. If only.
>>30056904
>>30056921
>>30056992
mfw i thought it was a shoulder thing that goes up
>>30058007
damn, that aint so bad auusie bro. looks kinda nice
i'm glad you guys can at least have that
>>30060219
I'm interested in this
>>30058596
New Yorker here, thumbhole stocks are not compliant.
haha you guys think you're fucked up? here in Argentina everything but .22 is illegal, you can't use weapons to defend not even in a risk of death situation, even the shittiest pistol is over $600 and you got like $1000 only in papers, and also SWJ are opressiong the goverment to make illegal every tipe of fire weapon.
On the other hand, el yoni will sell you a used glock with at least 5 murders for arround $400
>>30061074
look at those beautiful prices
>>30061106
Holy fuck. That's ludicrous. Fucking extortion.
>>30060288
>>30060313
You are either VERY new to firearms or underage. In either case, go read up on the NFA of '34, and reading about the GCA of '68 and the Hughes Amendment wouldn't hurt either.
>>30061106
At least you're getting your money's worth with that Taurus craftsmanship.
How much are Smith and Wesson revolvers?
>>30058158
That all sound scary. I feel safer knowing that these are all banned.
>>30060551
No, they can't have centerfire semi rifles, so they put a stock on a centerfire pistols.
'Cause the rest of the world knows a pistol with a stock is still a pistol.
>>30058269
So, would it be illegal to have some sort of walking stick/cane with an integral handgun?
>>30059541
Actually it uses an AR18 style BCG/buffer setup and a AR15 like lower. So you could say it is an AR180 (or Hesse V15 AR18 Hybrid) without the short stroke piston (and made with actual quality unlike the Hesse)
>>30061371
What makes the bottom gun a handgun and not a rifle? Is it to do with the length of the buttstock or does it not fit the definition in some other way?
>>30061575
It has "no stock" and is "meant to be fired singlehandedly".
>>30061588
In what way is that considered 'not a stock' though?
>>30060257
Also all the people in charge of handing those out had a meeting together, and agreed to never hand them out. Very few people can legally cc in Canada and they only get to because they have friends/family high up in local govt
>>30061598
>>30061598
It's an arm brace, "meant to allow handycapped people to fire the pistol with one hand".
If you press it to your shoulder magical ATF elves will appear out of thin air and shoot your dog.
>>30061623
Ah. Noice.
>>30061575
that's not a buttstock, it's basically a rod with a medical brace on it.
>>30061598
It's an arm brace. You strap it around your arm and do not shoulder it.
>>30060257
There are only around 1000 or so "unrestricted" ATCs issued in Canada at the moment. There is actually an application form but I believe it was the former Ontario CFO who said "Unless we say you need it, your not getting it" (I'm slightly paraphrasing).
(An unrestricted ATC is the one where you can carry pretty much anywhere, any time; subject to any additions the issuing CFO wants to add. The other 2 ATCs are for the Armored truck guys and for trappers/geologists in the deep wilderness for whom a long gun would significantly hinder the exercise of their jobs. For a Wilderness permit the CFO of Ontario says it has to be the biggest caliber you can handle. Generally anything .45 ACP and below is no go. These 2 are much more common than the unrestricted ATC however. )
And before any non-Canadians think they have found a loophole, no they don't issue it for the occasional camping trip. That doesn't mean you can't carry a long gun for predator defense, an Authorization to Carry is only for you to carry handguns/short barreled semi autos and AR15s.
I do know a guy who got a wilderness permit for his cabin for some reason, didn't really get to talk much about it so I'm not sure of the how or why.
>>30060321
We can legally carry full sized swords.
>local Timmie's getting robbed by Somalians
>start shooting up the place with illegal guns that were brought over from the states
>two civs shot dead
>neckbeard in multicam and CADPAT Chinese knock off fatigues unsheathes 240 year old ancestral Japanese Katana
>Somalis aim glock 40s (it's their problem solvers) at said neckbeard
>he proceed to slice them down with glorious Nippon steel
>slices glawk 40s into small chunks
>the magic of steel folded 6 million times over grants him cat like agility and reflexes
>saves himself, and everyone else in Timmie's
>goes to jail for murder, hate crime for attacking two immigrants, and is labelled a terrorist
>liberal government declares stricter gun laws and bans all blades
>bin that knife.jpg
>trudau apologizes to Somalia for our countries racist individuals
>sends his wife as a gift
>being white is now taxable
>such is life in multicultural peaceful progressive liberal weed land
I am just waiting for someone to use a sword in self defence here
>>30059725
>be American
>put stock on a pistol
>go to federal prison
>>30061575
The manufacturer says it's a pistol, and the atf says it's a pistol
But you can't shoulder it or put a vertical grip on it because then it would be an sbr/aow and you'd have to do a ton of paper work to own it legally, but it's a pistol so it's treated the same under the law ad a glock or any other pistol
Those rifle caliber pistols are a semi dubious way to get around sbr laws
So, if you shoulder an arm brace you get fricked. What if you shoulder the pistol itself. I bet that groove will fit nice and snug into your shoulder
>>30061870
ATF's stance is "Try it and find out"
Nobody knows how all the conflicting ATF bullshit is supposed to work, especially not them.
that's not gonna help you, comrade.
special snowflake?
>>30058269
That's exactly what I was thinking
>>30058158
>bayonet lug
>magazine appearing to have more 10 rounds
were those people snorting something when they were writing it?
>>30059276
get an ar180
>>30056775
Hailing from Poland, to the left your only non-permit non-registry firearm (made before 1885, separeted loading)
Permit required for
>any other gun
>airgun +17J
>crossbow
>knuckledusters
>Nunchaku
>baseball bats
Permits are given by police, it must be for specific purpose and "justified"
>>30058242
>>30058177
>>30058158
>>30058103
>>30058058
Jesus Fuck California
thumb hole stocks are banned features here
I just can't even
did the 'shoulder thingy that goes up' lady write our laws?
>>30062711
because "thumbhole stocks" are a way of getting around the retarded "pistol grip" bullshittery, in their eyes.
You're going to use the thumbhole stock to fire from the hip, killing millions of police officers (all one week from retirement) and elementary children.
>>30057266
Just do it, Anon. The odds of you being accosted by dindus is exponentially higher than the odds of anyone seeing you CC if you have a good holster.
>I would never CC my Tok
Why not? It's a fine CC gun. I may buy a second one and modify the sights, since that's my biggest complaint with mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-oCbZ4njiE
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE LIDDLE CHILLINS?
>>30060585
>Would have with a stock
but then it becomes a baby killing assault pistol!
think of the children
So here's the thing.
Canadian gun laws have always been political, and make no sense. I mean, we banned the G11 by name for gods sake. What possible reason could there be for that?
But it leaves HUGE GAPING loopholes. Loopholes the RCMP acknowledges and does not care about, unless it becomes a high profile press story.
1) mag capacity only matters what is marked on the magazine/is DESIGNED for. Not what it is CAPABLE of.
Pic related was a famous example. A 5rnd Beo mag for an AR15 JUST HAPPENED to fit many more .223 cartridges double stacked. Using it in this way was even allowed by the RCMP until the liberal media found out and freaked out, and now ONLY beo 5rnd mags are banned, and only if not used in a gun chambered for it. Other examples exist up here such as carbines that take pistol mags can have 10 rounds.
Thing is, I wish I could find some that fit these other rules; a mag marked for use in a manual action rifle has NO mag limit. So presumably, if a 100rnd drum mag existed for a bolt action rifle, marked and made FOR said bolt action rifle, but JUST HAPPENED to fit a semi-auto, then it could be used. Also .22 has no mag limit. So if there was some magical way (not even sure if possible) to make a very high capacity .22 mag, marked for .22, that somehow was also able to hold a much smaller amount of some centrefire cartridge, that would be usable.
Also, this one is bizarrely specific, but any handgun made pre-1890, and not modified to use a "modern cartridge" is classified as an antique, and is not defined as a firearm or ruled by firearms laws, unless used in a crime. So the funny thing is, the "modern cartridge" list is missing one. .45acp. So I guess people up here can get a pre-1890 webley or nagant, or something in .455, machine it for .45acp, and now you have a handgun that TECHNICALLY (good luck explaining it, though) you could carry everywhere, shoot out in the woods, whatever the shit you want, as long as you don't use it to commit a crime.
>>30060720
By the time it gets to the Supreme Court, we'll have a meme president who will have appointed meme Justice.
>>30063355
Anglo Commonwealth countries have been notorious for this sort of shit since they have feel good leftists (usually women) "technical experts" that make up the gun laws with nil input from anyone that actually knows about guns.
>>30061623
>pistol with forward vertical grip
HIDE YOUR DOG
>>30063355
5 rd Beo mags aren't banned and you can still put .223/5.56 to full (14-15rnds) capacity in them legally. Now there as been some issues with certain manufactures that the importers are supposedly being denied import permits for but BEO MAGS ARE LEGAL.
2) The cutoff for antiques is 1898. not 1890.
>>30063544
1) Well what do you know! You are correct! Even a guy I know who is a trainer said it was, but a quick search turned up this
http://calibremag.ca/rcmp-prohibit-50-beowulf-magazines/
Tl:dr is that it was a rumour, but it is all legal.
2) that makes more sense. I had heard of Nagants being used, but they're 1895, so that clarifies that. Thanks, man.
>>30057086
WHY SUPPORT TYRANNY?
DISOBEY!
>>30058443
That would be amazing.
I'll bet you their definition of "pistol cartridge" tops out at .40 or something though.
>>30063787
No, the only good thing about UK gun law is that it's so old, the only reference to calibre is "rimfire" and "centrefire". Any calibre (long-barrel) revolver or non-semi-auto rifle is okay.
The EU is trying to get everyone to update their gun laws, with bans/restrictions on so-called "military calibers" in the works, which is butt-fuck stupid.
>>30058007
Noice. Over here, they've developed a "lever release" system - bolt locks back after the shot, and a little catch/toggle under your thumb pops-up, and has to be pressed, to release the bolt and chamber the next round. I've seen guys get some pretty quick shooting out of them.
Hammerhead grip
>>30063854
Is this one NY legal
>>30058158
Define "whatever firearm you want" please, like full-auto-60round-mag-sbr-withsupressor?
>>30059619
>tfw Dad is Nogunz
>tfw Mom is Nogunz
>tfw Mom's parents are Nogunz
>tfw Dad's parents are Southerner Boomers and amazingly are STILL Nogunz
>i will never inherit any old/antique/military guns
why even live any more?
>>30061623
>veins
![shoestringmg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k10LR3x.jpg "shoestringmg[1].jpg")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43P8PHKTny0
>>30064019
>>30063899
In theory yea but to really find out you would need a lawyer and a contact at NYPD.
>>30061727
> Be chilean
> COMMIT A GODDAMN FELONY IN THE US
> TO AVOID BREAKING THE LAW
Goddamn, I've never wanted to be oppressed so bad.
>can't use rifles for deer hunting
>Shotguns are slugs only, 2+1 round mag limit
>pistols in straight walled cartridges are A-OK, no mag limit because lol that's only revolvers right?
Gg no re, Ohio.
Well here in Finland people only fix stocks to meet the minimum length requirement of 84cm total/40cm barrel. Anything below is an aow which is just another category, but you can't switch between the two without applying for the correct permit first.
I'm not even sure how having an sbr upper for a full length AR would work here.
>>30064031
Looks unsafe as fuck. I like it.
If you live in a commie state, see if you can order a black powder. They can ship with UPS or whatever since they're not firearms.
>>30059725
>>30064060
But can Chileans carry semi-auto pistols (the kind without a stock)?
>>30064031
>>30064019
BAN SHOE STRINGS
>>30062882
>Straining to pull the trigger
>Have to pull trigger twice to fire again
The fuck yo.
>>30057383
>Safe for who?
Safe for "whom."
>>30063355
>So presumably, if a 100rnd drum mag existed for a bolt action rifle, marked and made FOR said bolt action rifle, but JUST HAPPENED to fit a semi-auto, then it could be used.
do mossberg make a proprietary magazine for the patrol rifle in 556?
>>30064587
but then the rcmp would quickly prohib ALL mvp
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>>30064349
the bolt only closes when you pull the trigger a second time so it techically isn't semi-auto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRcoLdawRUk
you can shoot pretty fast
>>30063847
>No, the only good thing about UK gun law is that it's so old, the only reference to calibre is "rimfire" and "centrefire".
Oh, right on then.
>>30064622
Well they didn't for the beo mag. What makes you think they would for that one? They have been caught explicitly saying they don't care. The mag limit laws were political laws. A total joke.
The RCMP cares about the named gun bans, probably because they want to be able to identify bikers at a distance. For some reason all the bikers I ever meet with illegal guns love AKs and FALs. So presumably if an RCMP sees an AK or FAL-looking rifle, it triggers the hell out of them. Thus the pressure from them to ban Vz and classic green. Vz looks too much like an AK from a distance, and Classic Green looks too much like the banned Sig 550.
>>30064698
>Classic Green
that makes sense ... i dont like it ,but it makes sense
>>30064732
Yeah, the reason for the attempted ban is obvious...
But they already said it was legal, no backsies!!
I'm buying one just in case. Canada has historically never done confiscations or buybacks. Always grandfathering. If I were a richfag, I would buy anything currently on the border of legal, in case they make it illegal, then my license turns into a special license with exceptions forever. That I can pass down to my descendants.
>mfw my dad sold his full-funs and FAL in the 80's. Our family could have had special full-giggle licenses and banned guns forever...
>>30061648
>Biggest caliber you can handle
I'll take an AR in .50 beowulf tyvm
>>30058269
fuck I was going to post this
>>30061517
yes
weapons that are made to look like something that isn't a weapon are illegal
And you can't openly carry a firearm on the streets. It needs to be in a plain bag with the ammo in a separate bag and you either need to be on your way to your home, gun range or gun store.
>>30058443
in theory, yes
you can own a 20mm anti-material rifle on the same licence as a .17 air rifle that is over 12 foot pounds
>>30063847
These are banned down here because semi auto specifically states the use of gas
>>30061106
this better be in Argentine Peso
either way it's a rip-off
>>30065183
I think it might be clapistanian burgermoney actually. The only way business there survives is by selling to those who can afford the exorbitant prices.
>>30063544
I thought that the limit was 10 rounds. Did they make a special law for Beowulf? If so, just get a 10 round SOCOM.
>>30065128
So it would be fine if it were delayed recoil?
>>30059725
How do they define a rifle? Is it barrel length?
>>30064671
It makes me so sad that so much innovative power is going into getting around cuck laws instead of making better guns.
>>30057232
>tfw all of bongland is pic related
>>30062680
>Permit for a baseball bat
goddamn commies don't even want you to experience the American Pastime
I bet Apple Pie is illegal too. And your mother's love!
>>30059619
I got a revolver when my grandfather died. Got all excited because my mom told me that she and her sister wanted me to have her dad's old revolver. POS 1960's Saturday Night Special appears. Made by "RG" and looks like it had been kept in a drawer under the bathroom sink for 40 years. Had two cartridges in it (out of 5). Been in there for something like 30 years. When they handed me the gun nobody knew there were bullets in it.
>>30066626
local chav equivalent used them to bash each other/everyone else.
after that ban they switched to machetes, so i guess it's safer now
>>30064671
That's actually a pretty fucking genius workaround for semi-auto bans.
>>30066002
If engineers in the weapons industry could focus on actually designing better firearms rather than avoiding the ATF's dog-killing penis, we would have sub-100 db suppressors and 10,000-round match-grade barrels overnight.
>>30064019
>>30064031
That's a felony.
He should seriously delete that video.
>>30058158
I thought new zealand was the most free country of the world. Even here in belgium we don't have this kind of shit
>>30062711
>Wanting that on your AR
I mean I guess to each is their own but I'm fine with my pistol grip 10Rd, bullet button, AR.
>>30071107
Meanwhile here in the libruhl state of Minnesota there's no "assault weapon" laws and we just legalized suppressors.
>>30059775
Shut the fuck up you stupid leaf thats fucking awesome if it were up to me every pistol would have a threaded barrel
Fug this is bad. I'm actually starting to see how free we are here.
Is there any country other than the USA with good CC laws and good gun laws in general?
this is fucking ridiculous
and yes I know the US has some dumb shit too, but this is incomparable
>>30071145
That's because states like Minnesota are the good kind of blue states, the kind where honest working class people vote democrat to keep rich assholes from walking all over them as hard, not because they are sheltered citiots who think that guns are ebil.
>>30071034
I seriously don't understand why retards write letters to the ATF.
I'd like to think that they were all the kids in the school that would ask the teacher if there was any homework 5 minutes before class ended on a Friday.
>>30071145
Because the bitch kind of liberals dont live in your cities.
>>30057099
trips are cancer
>>30060481
I really want one of these for a different pistol.
>>30071034
It took them 7 months to decide this.
Then later on they changed their minds.
>>30063854
Ya know, I kinda like ARs with non-pistol grips. Particularly ones with a synthetic 'classic'-shaped rifle stock.
>>30071413
And that's fine, if you chose to put it on. Not because asinine laws force you to.
>>30071354
>Then later on they changed their minds.
Sauce?
In France gun laws went full retard during the 90's. Before that anyone over 18 could buy a shotgun without any license or registration, and it was common to find Mossberg 500s in supermarkets. Then the police created falsified numbers pretending that every armed criminal was using a pump action shotgun because they were so easy to acquire. Gun grabbing politicians used those fake stats to push a pump action shotgun ban. Since they don't know shit about guns though, it only concerned smoothbore pump action shotguns. Meaning you could still own a rifled pump action shotgun, or a smoothbore shotgun using any other kind of mechanism. Thus was created a typical Franco-French modification : the ball action shotgun. Pic related.
Since 2012, smoothbore pump action shotguns have been unbanned, although you now need an authorization to own them, the same authorization that you would need to buy, say an AR or a handgun. And those are limited to 12 per shooter, so pretty much no one bothers with those guns and just buy rifled pump action shotguns with a license.
>>30065948
nah because it classifies semi autos as any gun that uses energy from the round going off to help cycle it. hence why revolver rifles are legal but that stuff isnt
>>30071218
Czech Republic? They issue CC permits and allow self defense.
>>30056775
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>>30072586
!
>>30070502
God, we can hope we see the day.
>>30073043
Imagine a world where the firearms market was free to innovate and improve, like electronics...
>>30057086
>Tfw I like the look of the no-grip AK
>>30071488
Interesting
Do you happen to live in France?
>>30057589
what is the origin of this pic. I never bothered to find out/
>>30073572
>here comes the airplane
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex
>>30071034
>People think these letters carry the force of law
Bruh.
I could write you a letter if you want saying that it's fine to own full auto post-86 unregistered SBRs.
Doesn't make it true.
Although I am not chief of a tech branch
>>30073591
I didnt know what it was called and my poor descriptions weren't working out in google so well
>meme of scrawny raging serious hipster
Thanks though, but now that I know I can't decide whether I should be furious or depressed. Holy fuck I hate people.
>>30063422
god damn i fucking hope so
>>30066626
>Chevrolets, hotdogs, and barbecue all get you 5 years in Pooland
>>30056904
Most likely so a cop wont get firgerprints on it or sth
