We all agree that the VZ is better than the ak so how come the VZ is less popular
https://youtu.be/KaazSztOF34
>>29997000
>we all agree the VZ is better than the AK
inb4 shitstorm
>>29997000
Nowhere near as many manufacturers, and even they don't make them in adequate numbers.
Besides, AK has name recognition from decades of being 'the bad guy gun', VZ does not.
>>29997000
Less than a million made
Plus they don't really look as cool as your standard AK so they aren't as popular among kiddies
>>29997000
the tapco ak magazine not even locked in is bothering me so bad.
>>29997034
>>29997007
how does this make the AK better
>>29997000
>implying being a less popular gun is a bad thing
thins out the herd so there's less retards
>>29997000
My VZ-2008, pic related, while it was cheap, looked real fucking cool and was a blast to shoot, was the worst piece of shit I've ever fired.
FTFs every mag with any ammo, somehow a wandering zero with irons (how is this even possible?), shot about 8 MOA on a good day.
Sold that sum bitch for a profit with full disclosure of how shitty it was to some ex-milfag who didn't care, and bought a SAR AK.
>>29997000
Don't get me wrong they're great rifles but they're just an ugly AK to most people
>>29997223
In closing, here is your answer OP:
A VZ worth a damn costs $1000+, while a halfway decent AK can be had for less than half that.
>>29997200
It's not, dipshit. No one said it is. It's just more popular.
>>29997243
link me to a decent, scratch that, working $500 AK fuckface
WASRs are even $650+ these days what kind of piece of shit will $500 get you
>>29997000
Because it's less good.
>>29997000
I'll definitely agree there myself if we're talking about a legit cz built vz58, especially if you put a fixed vz stock on it. Either way, I enjoy collecting aks a lot more, but the vz is my best all around rifle in the collection.
And I hope most vz2008 owners eventually get disposable income and buy the real cz deal because it's definitely a lot nicer all around. The vz2008 I used worked well enough, but the fit was pretty bad compared to mine, and the parts felt extremely sandpapery when I worked the action.
The vz2008 I used was clanking 400 yard steel accurately at 400... but ONLY after removing that pile of garbage slant brake century added and leaving the threads bare. It couldn't shoot accurately to save it's life with the slant on. And in addition to not shooting good groups, it was also shooting way up and right by many feet out at 400 until that slant brake was gone.
>>29997000
The Vz is the more modern rifle (BHO, almost good selector) but it looks like shit, the mags look xboxhuge, it's not very widespread, and it doesn't have much in term of aftermarket parts.
>>29997358
the mags are actually ven bigger than standard steel AK mags thanks to the follower which activates the boltcatch
VZ mags fit very tightly inside of AK mag pouches
>>29997000
I've owned two, an 18.5" barrel model and pic related with a 11.8" barrel.
The only downsides of the VZ are the trash mounting options (no long scopes), dissassembly and reassembly is slower than an AR, and mags are gigantic. Otherwise they're pretty dope.
If I buy another one ever, it'll probably be a clone of the original military rifle (15.4" barrel with bakelite furniture)
>>29997323
Calm the ass pain man, I'm not attacking your precious raifu.
It's called a private transaction. WASRs, SARs, DDIs go for $500 or so all day on the secondary market. I paid $525 for this SAR-3 earlier this year, face to face cash deal. 1200 rounds thru it the first month I had it and not a single hiccup. Couldn't say anywhere close to the same about my VZ.
>>29997000
So, this is accepted!
>>29997000
Not modified vs not modified, for normal range use, might as well be.
I like my better, but trigger reset is horribly long.
>>29997042
Don't worry, FAB/Mako group now makes plastic tacticool one that fits.
I still have no idea why would anyone bother when surplus ones are so light, cheap and easily avalable.
>>29997223
it's Century, why do you expect good gun, they can fuck up anything
>>29997000
The standard VZ looks like a cheap knockoff of a traditional AK. Something about that bolt seems like something a third world shit hole would put on their clone AKs for cost reasons.
>>29998208
lol
>>29997034
>as popular among kiddies
>this is why the ak is more "popular"
VZ fags pls