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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/06/hk-to-introduce-sp5k-mp5k-pistol-to-us-market/

>No paddle magazine release
>No 3-lug adapter
>30-round magazines cost $80 each
>$2,699 MSRP

Enjoy your bankruptcy, HK
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>>29865927
So, they are essentially re importing the SP89 after a 22 year hiatus?
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>company with military contracts
>giving even a single fuck about the civilian market

L e l
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>>29865927
Someone on /k/ will buy one of these just call anyone with a Zenith a poorfag and can't into REEL HEK & KEK
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>>29865950
>H&K hates the civilian market!
>only company to try and stop the 1989 Import Ban
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>>29865958
The Irony behind that was Arnold's Detonics/Colt 1911 was chambered for 9mm.
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>>29865927
Ridiculous. You could buy an MP5K-clone from a custom shop (http://brethrenarms.com/product/ba-9mm-compact-factory-pistol/) and have a higher quality product, the 3-lug adapter, paddle magazine release, and pay over $700 less. Hell, you could SBR it, throw a red dot on there, and still pay less.
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>>29865927
If it wasn't hideous I'd probably get one.
H&K doesn't care about civi market since it has all those yummy contracts. The bastards.
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>>29865974
see >>29865963
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>>29865975
Not prioritizing civilian sales doesn't equal hating the civilian market.
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>>29865972
>BA
>not taking any orders
Lovely
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>>29865927
Not everyone is a poor.
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>>29865958
>>29865994
Called it
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>>29865927
Nice try to get us to visit our site Alex C. Now fuck off with Daddys Trust Fund guns.
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>>29865958
I fucking love this
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>>29865994
Yeah, rich people can actually buy real deal FA MP5's.
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>>29865927
Wait... is that a 10-rd mag? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IMPORT IT TO AUSTRALIA UNDER CAT H AND I'LL PAY DOUBLE
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>>29865927
so what is the point again?
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>>29865994
No, but you are.
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>>29865994
I too, have a gold plated FA MP5A2. Let's head to the Mile High Range and punch some holes in some pure platinum targets! Let the likes of these *poorfags* perish under all our enormous and incalculable amount of liquidized money.

I mean- you aren't POOR are you?
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>>29865927
Reminder that the MP5 is still just a stamped steel delayed blowback 9mm.

In now way do these cost anywhere near half that sticker price to produce.
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>>29866011
Will not be let into the country, resembles a Cat R submachinegun, i.e a MP5K. Therefore it is legally a Cat R firearm.
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>>29865927
>want an mp5 but hesitant to give money to turkroaches or terrorists
>crossed fingers for hk to bring it to the us market
>no paddle mag relase or 3 lug

god fucking damnit
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>>29865927
At this point the only thing I'm interested in are the MRxxxA3s, if they're ever coming here.

I want my 416A5gery, god dammit.
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>>29865950
>Military contracts
>Not learning from Colt
There's a reason HK has been on the verge for a few years. Maybe all these Euro countries buying 416s will pull them out, I doubt it though.
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>>29865950
Hnnnnng
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>>29866553
I know, I'm just dreaming aloud of an SP89 that doesn't cost $30,000
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>>29865927

Why not just buy a close with all german parts for $2000?

Can you at least do the "slap" down the charging handle?
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I'll just keep my BA thanks.
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>>29866598
What film is this from? I must know.
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>>29867369

It's the first episode of Ultimate Force.
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Meanwhile Zenith
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>>29865927
didnt the HK94 also come without paddle release?
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>tfw no MP5/10
I won't buy a USP just because of how much cock HK sucks
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>>29866645
Doesn't matter. The German government won't let HK die. No matter what, it's THE german arms manufacturer and more importantly the one favored by the government. So while they tell SIG Sauer to suck a fat one, they will cook up some bullshit orders just to keep HK alive.
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just imagine all the shit you americans could get if you get rid of the shitty import regulations.
pic related, HSG-94 a luxemburger mp5, they also produce psg1, g3 and hk 93 clones.
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>>29867510
HK is like saab. they continue making expensive guns, and sell them cheap to mil/leo, and loose money left and rigt. the difference is that german government keeps it afloat.
it doesnt bother me really.
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>>29867489
Yeah, but it's really so easy to add one (in ATF-approved fashion) during construction of the rifle that there's no point not to have it. Especially considering fanbase demand for it.

>>29867543
>luxemburger
Which blows my mind; how do they make any money in Europe selling clones?
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>>29865927
I have a feeling nobody is going to buy this, especially when they can just get a GSG-522
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>>29867572
If only they started making the P7 again...
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>>29867604
Bullets backwards lol
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>>29867604
>Dat mag
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NFAGGOTS will buy these in droves

HK
Because you suck, and we hate you. Always Compromise.
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>>29867543
>a luxemburger mp5

It's made in Pakistan by POF and imported.
Same with the B&T clone. And same with the "british" IDF clone.

>>29867587
>how do they make any money in Europe selling clones

Uh... because no one in Europe can get a HK MP5 either?
The hideous, neutered SF5k is what we've received after years and years of being stuck with Turk and Paki clones... HK can go fuck themselves.
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>>29867604

only if they improve the finish on them.

>expensive carry gun when it was being produced
>rusted to hell if you didn't baby it
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>>29865927
HK gets its revenues primarily from military and law-enforcement contracts. Civilian markets are just extra revenue for them.
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Why does anyone even like the MP5 anymore apart from nostalgia?

It's not a good gun compared to modern offerings. It was hella cool in the 80s and 90s but the only appeal it has these days is the same appeal as a retro AR.
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>>29867756

it is completely inferior to most 9mm offerings out there now. my only guess is that it's an "official HK" and they are trying to capitalize on some chump change from the nostalgia fags. idk how expensive they are to produce but the asking price is absurd.

>could invest in making improved striker handguns to replace the VP9
>what about updating and bringing the MP7 to the US?
>modernize the G36 for the US?
>nah fuck that.
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>>29867657
>because no one in Europe can get a HK MP5 either
cant you get one? if you're a czech, or are you only a CZfag?
you can get them in sweden(maybe not anymore), finland i think, germany, poland, france, switzerland, italy and probably some more.
not that its usefull for the "sporting" that they say they want it for.
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>>29867756
>apart from nostalgia?
there you have it.
same with repro milsurp. people love the gun for some reason (movies, games, history, experience etc) and want a repro. also real mp5 are sexy as fuk
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>>29865963
this. id rather have a great line of pistols and some neutered rifles from HK than have them switch production to the US like Sig did and get a bunch of wonky half assed bullshit.

as much as a fish gun or g36 makes me moist, id rather buy the sl8 and have that tommy built dude fix it up than have a dogshit version of it sold here.
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>>29867756
>>29867811

I've yet to meet a smoother shooting 9mm carbine. 9mm ARs are just stupidly snappy compared to the MP5, so is the EVO and other straight blowback guns. And the accuracy is absolutely unholy.
>hurr durr man up faget
I'm not saying 9mm is hard to handle out of other guns, but there's just something magical about an SMG that handles like a .22
Sure, the lack of BHO sucks, the mounting options on most clones suck, it doesn't cowitness with pretty much anything, it doesn't like some of the wilder bullet shapes and the reload procedure is less handy than on other guns, but it just shoots so well it's addictive.

>>29867894

I said HK and that means HK. Turkish and Paki clones are available in Czechland and most countries around here.
People would gladly pay extra for an HK MP5 in a reasonable configuration. We were hyped until this year's IWA where HK revealed that the shitty SP5k is the only model they're going to be making.
Why is HK so bad at reading the civilian market I'll never know. I bet that when the SP5 won't sell because no one wants ugly neutered crap for an exorbitant price, they'll go "ha, there you have it, this is a definitive proof the civilian market has no demand for a semi MP5!"
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>>29865927
>poorfag
>linking alex
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>>29867356

what kind of california fuckery is that blocking the magazine release?
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>>29867489
why do faggots want this shitty mag release? the hk94 has a button release, far superior.
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>>29865927
MFW
sp80 retail for $3500-$5500, depending
MKE's are $1695
new sp89's in 1989 were $1495
OP confirmed 12 year old
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>>29867756
My uncle was in charge of the NYPD police range and when I would visit him at work that was the only full auto gun they'd let me shoot.

>uncle sets me up at the bench one time with like 1,000 rounds
>goes off to answer phone call
>burn through 600 rounds getting odd stares from other cops there the whole time
>uncle comes back a little while later with other cops kids
>I was supposed to share that ammo with like 9 other kids
>he didn't think I knew how to reload the mags
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>>29867926
>I've yet to meet a smoother shooting 9mm carbine. 9mm ARs are just stupidly snappy compared to the MP5, so is the EVO and other straight blowback guns. And the accuracy is absolutely unholy.
So... All hyperbole. Neat.
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>>29867944

So, have you actually shot one, with a real stock?
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>>29867926
>said HK and that means HK.
ahh i see.
yeah I can agree with that, shitty german laws probably, restricting "certain features" that are similar to mp5 or some shit.
but as far as i know the mp5 reciever is not regulated, isnt it possible to just get a real mp5 reciever and add the rest of the sp5 to that?
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>>29867933
mp5 has both anon. why would you want one when you can get both?
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>>29867992

HK is being "proactive", they removed the paddle release and changed the way the FCG is retained to make it incompatible with full fun FCGs.

>>29867933

The button release on an MP5 is impossible to reach while maintaining the grip. Everyone really just uses the paddle.
Either way it's neutering the gun for no good reason and therefore cuck faggotry.
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Best MP5
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>>29865927
Alternatively, you can buy six Nuggets, Obrez them (legally), and about 620 rounds of Nugget food.

If you don't Obrez the nuggets, you can get 12 and 50 rounds for each.
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>>29865970
and didn't kill anyone at all

checkmate ninefags
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>>29868150
replace that gay airshit with one of these gay over priced pistols add a vertical traverse mechanism place in H&K marketing board room solve problem or kill the shit out of poor janitor just doing his job
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>>29867756
>>29867811
Out of curiosity what modern 9mm offerings are you referring to?
My SMG knowledge and interest came to a halt in 1986.
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Wow, looking at all the complaints I didn't realize the US economy was hit that hard. News was it was growing again. But apparently not the wages.
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So where was the source for this lol?
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>>29870454
my bad guys, I thought that was the old link from TFB
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>>29870454

Dealers had already been notified and placed their orders before the news broke widespread. Believe it or not, it's actually happening.
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>>29870471
I can't justify that price, It's just so much........
Does aftermarket parts fit it? I would rather have it in a different config
Also, do you have to register it as an AOW if you put a foregrip on it if it is already an SBR?
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Also, what is a 3 lug adapter? For non euro suppressors?
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>>29870486
>Does aftermarket parts fit it?

It's got rails doesn't it?

>I would rather have it in a different config

Then wait or spend your money elsewhere.

>Also, do you have to register it as an AOW if you put a foregrip on it

It's sold as a pistol, so yes. Once registered as an SBR you can do whatever you want with it.
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>>29867356
Is that their factory pistol or BAP 9mm?
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>>29867932
It's an extended release,i believe
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>>29867756
Nostalgia is a perfectly good reason IMO, I don't know what kind of /k/ommando hasn't always wanted to be the dude from the cover of Rainbow Six.

That said, if I ever have an MP5, I want it to be the full-size one and not the MP5K or similar. The K has totally been outclassed by other options on the market, but I think the larger variants still offer a real shootability and cool factor that other guns don't really match.
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>>29867630
It's a meem, you dip!
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>>29867501
>wanting a gun that shoots itself apart
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>>29867501
>tfw there is not USP10
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>>29867604

why are these so expensive?
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>>29873333
>Heckler and Koch
There ya go, friend.
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>>29873333

Rarity, they made the M13 for fewer years than the M8, and nobody wanted the nickle finish when they were new.
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>>29865927

Can someone tell me again why the "H&K hates civilians" is a meme?
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>>29873454
Prices and bitchy anons.
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>>29865927
>No paddle release
>20 round mag

Why HK? Even after 20 some years you still don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I love HK, but they always get these types of things wrong, and it's still probably going to retail somewhere near 2,500$
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>>29865927

I get that people love HK's stuff, but why in the upside down fuck would someone spend that much on a neutered semi only subgun when you could build/buy and SBR a rifle in an intermediate cartridge for the same or less? Muh HK? Range toy?
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>>29873556
Why don't you love loliguns?
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>>29873556
Autism?
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>>29873454

>Gets fucked by the US in 1968
>Gets fucked again by name in 1989
>Fucked a third time in 1994
>Gets completely fucked by the jews who have taken over german government and doesn't allow them to export "weapons of war" to civilians

Oh but its you, the customer they totally hate for wanting to buy their products so they can make a profit. 10/10 meme
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>>29866785
Yeh I really wanted to move on that Cat H HK 94 that came on the market a while back but decided buying a new property I could shoot on was more important.

Offered 8000 for a AAA SAP in .223 as well but wasnt enough :(
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Fuck, man. All I want is a damn MP5, and there's still no good option after all these years. HK only gives us neutered bullshit that isn't the MP5 variant I'm interested in, and although the Zeniths look pretty good, I absolutely refuse to send a cent to Turkey if at all possible.
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>>29873677
Same here my dude, but Atlantic is doing a sale on all Zenith right now and my MP5 boner isn't waning
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>>29867756
A MP5 doesn't lose anything to its modern competition and shoots softer than any straight blow back gun ever will. It has great aftermarket support, it's reliable, and very accurate. The only downside is cost and the POF's and Zenith's give you an excellent way to get into a license built one for less than the crazy money a custom build or an old HK gun costs.
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>>29865927
>implying they aren't already selling out on preorder at well above MSRP
Original K's didn't have 3 lug. Deal with it.

>>29865972
>You could buy an MP5K-clone from a custom shop
No you can't.

>We are currently not taking any new orders on this item while we address manufacturing processes. We apologize for the inconvenience, please contact us for more information.

>>29867756
>>29867811
>"I've never actually fired an MP5 or other offerings".

>>29873677
Dakota Tactical.
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>>29867756
It's so fucking beautiful, and handles pretty well.
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>>29874381
>Dakota Tactical.

Oh man, those look nice but my butt puckered when I read the pricetag.
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>>29866583
>turkroaches OR terrorists
That's a little redundant, anon.
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>>29867926
>the 9mm AR hate
one day I'll come visit you or vice versa and we'll do some shooting mate
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>>29865950
whats the point of this gun? what does it do that a short barrel m4 or whatnot would also do? im not saying its stupid or shouldnt exist, im just wondering what makes this something the FBI actually wants
id still get one if i could, even if the answer is "nothing at all", just curious, so if anyone asks i can say something besides dunno lol
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