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Watch an AK fail during a firefight between the YPG and ISIS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3uo8YMlcE

What do you guys think? does this along with Ian's mud test blow away the "AK is the most reliable rifle ever" meme?
>inb4 muh loose tolerances
>inb4 not true Russian Kalashnikov
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>>29815543
Damn, he straight up murderized that wall. That's cold yo. Wall is just there giving you cover and you shoot it in the back.
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>>29815604
To be fair he is a Bong and has probably never even heald a rifle before joining the YPG.
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>britsh
>fighting for muslims
seems right
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>>29815543
Why the fuck is a British soldier using an AK. Sure the ammo is common but Jesus Christ.
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>>29815666
He's not a soldier, he's a YPG volunteer you moron
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>>29815666 (checkaroonie)
Because the brits don't issue scary assault weapons to their soldiers out of fear of them killing civilian babies, Which means their infantry have to steal guns from the enemy,
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>>29815666
He is not with the Bong armed forces, he is a volunteer with the Kurds. Though to be honest if I was with the Bong armed forces I would prefer an AK or literally anything else (besides the Insas) to a SA80
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>>29815543
Damn thats some shit, especially in combat
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>>29815659
The YPG are mostly secular atheists, though their SDF allies are either Muslim or Christians.
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>>29815711
I know. If that had happened in a CQC situation then he would have been killed easily.
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>>29815543
the only reason the ak was seen as invincible, is because the people who used them had no way to get their stories out.

the ak has always been and will always be a subpar rifle.
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>>29815751
Honestly I blame the old KGB propaganda machine. They convinced people that the US government invented Aids, so it is not a stretch that they convinced people that their rifle was an indestructable godly magic slav masterpeice
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>>29815543
>unknown ammunition
>unknown rifle
>unknown reason for FTE
So what exactly happened here?
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>>29815801
A round got stuck so far into the chamber that he needed to completely field strip the rifle to clear it. Basically the rifle failed. Anyone able to make out the county of origin for the rifle?
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>>29815543
It wasn't an Arsenal
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>even the shooter is blaming the shit ammo

>/k/ immediately goes "AK IS A SUBPAR RIFLE"

my god you guys are such colossal faggots.
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>>29815845
He didn't really. All he needed to do was take out the mag and drop the cleaning rod into the barrel.
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>>29815865
Welcome to /k/, where nobody has interesting lives and their days revolve around making a spectacle out of nothing. This is called "trolling"

Grab some popcorn for thursday for the inevitable shitstorm of shitposting when akou releases the first part of the slr107 torture test.
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>>29815543
>stuck in the breech
>breech
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>>29815899
>"look guys, I know my shit because it's called a chamber!!1"

You literally have never seen combat or had anyone shoot at you, sit down Timmy, you're not impressing anyone.
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>>29815911
not him but I just watched a video of a gun in combat who decided to take apart his entire rifle thinking he'd pull out a stuck casing with his pliers what a chump. I've had stuck casings in my SVT-40 and I just pop them out with the 70 year old cleaning rod. Get fucked chump
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>>29815845
Looks Egyptian to me, either that or some non Balkan eastern block shithole.
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>>29815690
They use human wave tactics, armed only with their korans and any weapons they find on felled foes.
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>>29815793
There are Afghanis who still run around with the chink AKMs their fathers got in 80s to fight Soviets. They probably never even cleaned them...
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>>29815845
That's not how guns work. A round isn't magically going to go further into the chamber than the shoulder allows unless the cartridge itself is defective. It's entirely possible the rifle performed just fine and the ammo was the problem.
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>>29815911
I'm sorry you thought it was a breech while you in combat. god's speed YPG bonger
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>>29815543
>There was a problem with the ammo, which at the very least is pretty old
>this gun is complete shit
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>>29815919
>a fucking leaf
Chump.
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>>29815543
Must be some Chinese made Monkey Model AK. there is no way this is a real Russian Kalashnikov.
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>>29815865
>muh ak legendary reliability
>muh ak can eat anything I put into it
>cant run sub par ammo

Come on now, more and more videos are coming out showing that the AK is not all its cracked out to be. I am not saying its not a great rifle, but it has no aged as well as the AR.
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>>29815978
Chink AKs are well battle tested
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>>29815978
>Russian AK
>In any way better then Chink AK that has been tested as much if not more

Shit excuse for the rifle being BTFO
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>>29815629

He clearly has military training moron
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>>29815961
Literally anyone can blaim the ammo for a gun fucking up. What is significant is that AK fans love to claim that the glorious Kalashnikov rifle will operate 100% reliably in any condition and with any ammo. This has been proven to be bullshit
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>>29815998
>literally unknown kind of middle eastern ammo
I don't even use loose ammo in the u.s.. he's lucky he didn't kaboom
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>>29816046
How? Because he can take off the dust cover and field strip the rifle? The retard shot the fuck out of that wall he was using as cover.
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>>29816080
Nah, he was using terminology and stoppage drills taught in the British Army.
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>>29815919
>I've had stuck casings in my SVT-40 and I just pop them out with the 70 year old cleaning rod. Get fucked chump

I can actually carry a firearm on me and have the legal rights to defend myself with it.

Enjoy your shitty russian surplus and chink guns. Get fucked, "chump"
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>>29816080

What this guy said >>29816097 he used standard British Army stoppage drills
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>>29816060
Tulammo is probably better quaility compared to the ammo they use over there.
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>that dismount
Remember that IFV thread we had last night? That's what people were talking about, fuck that design
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>>29816060
No rifle will cycle a mangled cartridge
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>>29816097
Though I am skeptical that he had military experience, I guess it makes sense that the Brits are good at clearing jams since they still use the SA80
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>>29816060
Nobody's claiming that. AK is just very reliable in sandy, dusty and cold conditions because of loose tolerances and overpowerd gas system. That's all. And M16 is good with dirt because it's a closed system.
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>>29816060
>What is significant is that AK fans love to claim that the glorious Kalashnikov rifle will operate 100% reliably in any condition and with any ammo.
no, that's your strawman you developed because memes on the internet hurt your feelings. No one says that- an AK, like other guns, is a machine that fails when conditions for proper operation are not met
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>>29816174
The A2 does not jam.
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>>29815543
probably couldn't have fixed it if it were an AR
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>>29815543
Stuck casings happen m8

Seeing as ARcuckteens don't have a cleaning rod the gun would have been out of service. Glorious design of kalash has cleaning rod and kit for these problems built into the gun.

Did you see how fast he disassembled his rifle and fixed the problem. He tried with pliers (which you couldn't do in a AR btw) before using the proven method of beating it out with a rod

AR15/M16/M4 fags on suicide watch
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>>29816174
>le jamjam SA-80 show XD
So do you always get your info from shitty XEBEC animes, or is this just a special exception?
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>>29815998
>uses a picture of Dugan for this argument
Now that in and of itself is fucking rich.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGih7eWI3E
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>>29815543
>retard brings along some troll shit multi tool that does absolutely nothing

>Dust Cover mount
>NC Star red dot sight clone


This is just sad.


10/10
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>>29815998
>Tfw no steel case

top lel
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>>29816219
>Links a video that satires the baseless atributes AK fans give to it to justify is being "better" then the AR

How ironic
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>>29816218
Oh please knowledgeable yellow teethed one, bestow me with your experience with that bullpup abortion.
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>>29816322
Not that guy, but can you provide concrete evidence of the L85A2's supposed unreliability?
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>>29816303
I an keep going he's well known to like one over the other for obvious reasons.
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>>29816228
But its a great system!
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>>29816121
>>29815974
that's cool thanks to your government I've got a US citizenship too so fuck your hat
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>>29816322
Are you trolling or just retarded?
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>>29815543
>pulling out a multi tool
>not giving it a good buttstroke

Why
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>>29816203
Are you trying to say he wouldn't be able to drop a (cleaning) rod down the barrel because AR's dont have barrels???
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>>29816407
It was his first time handling something with a knife and he got excited.
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>>29816414
Dumbass, the cleaning rod is mounted on the AK. Have fun using your bore-snake.
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>>29816421
Kek
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>>29816421
looks like u beat me to the britcuck joke
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>>29815543
Looks like the ammo is shit.
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>>29816422
cool strawman I bet you don't even own any firearms
>not carrying a cleaning rod but being a faggot instead
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>>29816444
could be a weak extractor spring + shitty ammo
I wouldn't put it past the guy who uses a dust cover mount for their Chinese red dot to not service springs
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>>29816422
Or, you know, any cleaning rod from a cleaning kit people who use ar15's have.
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>>29816470
yea the extractor is at question as he didn't really have to put that much force into getting the casing out with the cleaning rod
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>>29816203
>>29816206
Lmao. Trolling the dupe thread too? Not going to type out the procedure again. It probably wouldn't have happened given brass cased ammo. If only slavs weren't poor, bitter commies they could have decent ammo too.
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>>29816421
My sides
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>>29815659

M8 the YPG are literally Anarcho-Communists.
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>>29816491
>If only slavs weren't poor, bitter commies
these are YPG
so poor, bitter sand commies.
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>>29815543
>He didnt even try to leverage it out with the multitool, he tried to grab the case rim and push down.
>shooting the mud wall repeatedly instead of actually getting over it
>Finally got a guy to tell him how to clear it properly with cleaning rod, woulda died otherwise.
>Jerking the shit outta the trigger
But at least his mummy bought him an ACOG to go along with his romanian AKM47, or was it my fuckin taxdollars......
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>>29816528
>That shit sight
>ACOG
Nigger that is not an acog, it is a shitty Chinese red dot that was probably meant for Airsoft.
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>>29816470
>>29816481
The rifle looks like he just pulled out out the 1977 romanian crate and slapped some NCStar on it. My guess is the fucker never cleaned it with a chamber brush while using that dirtyass old 60's surplus ammo.
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>>29816569
look at 2:54 and tell me thats not a fuckin TA31 ACOG, fucknigger.
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>>29816610
Any moron can make a copy of an ACOG shell and put a crappy optic or a crappy red dot inside.
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>>29816218
>L85A1
>Same as an L85A2
dumbass
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why does the AK he's using change when the video changes frame?
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>>29815831
PUFFY
U
F
F
Y
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>>29816621
its the same guy with the same shit NCStar rail drilled onto the top cover.

My guess is he got it as a war trophy from that fight. Still doesnt change the fact my taxdollars paid for it to go to the shiraqi army who then left it all for IslamicShitheadsInSudan to come and use.

>>29816656
>L85Anything
>not being a steaming pile of fuckin shit HK couldn't even fix
go jerk off to your 'carrier' with a skiramp faggot.
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To be fair, an AR would not have had a cleaning rod to clear a stuck case with.

Someone give that guy a chamber brush, some Hoppes #9, and some cotton rags to cut to size.

Instruct to clean chamber.
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>>29816712
>not being a steaming pile of fuckin shit HK couldn't even fix

Prove it.
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The comments on the youtube video are better than the shit I'm reading here.

Grow the fuck up.
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>>29816174
>this autistically angry at being proven wrong

kek m8 just quit baiting you faggot
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>>29815543
>shit ak
>bong

There's your problem.

Also,
>promag
>airsoft scope
>tri-rail
top fucking kek m8
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Maybe the ammo was rusty steel case and the extractor ripped the chunk off instead of pulling the case out. This happened to me with a vz 58 and rusty steel case
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>>29815543
Interesting to actually see westerners actually doing shit with the YPG, but wouldn't it have been wiser for him to fall back a little before trying to fix his jam?
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>>29816972
Had a perfectly good wall to take cover, no real need. AFAIK behind him was open ground and an RPG-magnet BMP.
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>>29815851
>implying
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>>29815955
there are many guns that have had that level of "dads weapon"usage and still work, including m16s. Can this meme end?
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>>29816972
>>29816986
This was all filmed in the desert of Nevada, just like the Abu Hajabar film.

fuckin sheeple....
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>>29816966
That was most likely the issue and obvious to everyone but we are on 4chan friend home of the flame wars
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>>29816656
>>29816735
>>29816218
How the fuck did this turn into a L85 debate thread? Its not like that is a winable argument because the only people who use it are those in the British armed forces who have not extensively handled any other rifles and thus can not compare it to anything. Also seeing that it is their indigenous rifle they are going to defend it no matter if it is shit or not.
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>>29816999
you would have to be dumb as fuck to believe that happened in 1000 rounds but then some of you boiled your FNX.45's because someone told you to.
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>>29817074
>Filmed in Nevada
Say what now?
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>>29815543
>Stuck casing on an AK. Field stripped in 5 seconds by a novice and cleared with the supplied cleaning rod.

>Stuck casing on an AR. Spend 20 minutes taking it apart plus however long it takes to find something to jam down the barrel plus all the time is takes to wipe the dust off each part before it goes back in so it won't jam to shit on the first shot.
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>>29820548

>I have never stripped an AR the post.
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>>29820548
>Doesn't know how to mortar an ar-15
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>>29815543
The fact that you thought it was a big deal to see one single rifle fail would suggest that it's a pretty uncommon occurrence and that AKs are still plenty reliable.
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>>29821526
The whole stoppage seem to me atleast be caused due to shit ammunition or worn out parts. Possibly both
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>>29821526
If AK are reliable then the US Army should've been using them
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>>29815604
That sight height over bore

Seems more like a torn case rim than a failure of the rifle tho.
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>>29815543
>rekt level: unmeasurable
Stay mad ak fags
https://youtu.be/tDcnJPYGDEg
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>>29821502
>mortaring
Works with some stuck cases but I have seen ARs that had absolute case failures that were completely fucked until a cleaning rod was produced to hammer down the barrel.

Plenty of times where mortaring doesn't work.
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>>29815543
Probably shit bag ammo from some Russian supply half a century ago.
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>>29822035
Ar15 fags on suicide watch
>muh DI
>Muh brass cased ammo
>Muh expanision in the chamber
>ARfags btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53elhxBYVDc
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>>29822035
I was waiting for someone to post my video kek, we're going to do more vs videos with my valmet vs a cooey or svt or various other random guns.
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>>29822293
Are you the fat ricer or the skinny cancer patient?
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>>29815543
If you made anything else comparable for the same cost of an Ak, it would suck...
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>>29822304
Generic skinny slav* Third generation. And at least Im a smaller target at standard engagement distances, my torso is only 1ft across and half that I have my side to you. I can also carry more, surprisingly and go farther than the other people in my group.
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>>29815629
>To be fair he is a Bong and has probably never even heald a rifle before joining the YPG.
>makes report of failure
>field strips an assault rifle
those contradict eachother dear man butt lover
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>>29822365
> hurr durr
you are a skinny fag. Stop pretending you are hot shit.
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>>29820548
>remove dust cover
>remove spring
>remove bolt carrier/gas piston (don't drop the bolt)
>clear stuck casing

vs

>push out pin
>remove bolt carrier + charging handle
>clear stuck casing
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>>29822242
>shooting 5.56 in a barrel made for .223
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Would have happened in a AR too if you load fucked up ammo.
AK Stronk!
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>>29822454
But the internet told me that AK's will always work, they shouldn't have a problem with crappy ammo.
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Take an old as fuck rifle that went through at least three wars and gets less cleaning than OP. Feed it with some random rounds from dubious origin, bought from a shady guy at an Iraqi gun market. What exactly do you expect knowing that some morons manage to jam their rifles here on shooting ranges, using quality commercial ammo and almost factory new mags?
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>>29818445
>Hurr it didn't happen because I said so.
Arsenal apoligists are desperate.
You're right, it didn't happen in 1000 rounds.
>It only took 90, faggot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWxHN62LiGk

Can this Arsenal is good meme die already.
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>>29822463
How could there any gun not have problems with physically deformed ammo?
Magic?
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>>29822035
So that's how average /k/ user looks like. A 500 lb guy who's eating supersize at McD at every mealtime. Plus second guy looks like he's favorite porn genre is '' gay gangbangs''
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My AR failed for the first time today
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Simple way to fix this jammed AK, use the cleaning rod down the barrel and tap the cleaning rod with a rock or something, it will push the brass case out of the chamber.
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>>29822940
Yup in case the rod is missing use a stick !!!
(these can be found on the ground or growing out of a tree)
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>>29815543
Didn't realize how good it is that when I get a stuck case in the barrel of my AUG I just pull the barrel out and get the case out easily rather than strip the entire rifle.
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>>29816479
>>29816456


Okay, have fun opening your bag and looking for your cleaning rod in a trench. Oh, wait. you don;'t have it. Good thing my SKS, the first gun i bought, has it right under the barrel for whenever you need it.
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>>29822964
Good luck finding a .22 caliber stick in the desert

I know /k/ is currently beating the ebin ak a shit meme like a dead horse but the ak is still the measurement of small arms reliability in which others are judged upon, and I don't give a shit what some YouTube ak wheelbarrow mud test says otherwise
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>>29815543
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8hFZ7Jt2hQ
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>>29822409
Any retard could field strip an ak. All he needed to do was take off the dust cover and pull out the spring and bolt carrier group. This is probably all shit they taught him when he joined the YPG
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>>29823037
As has already been stated in the thread, he's using British Army callouts.
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>>29815845
God knows where the ammo is from or how old/what shitty part of the world it was made, I suspect that had more to do with the malfunction than anything else.
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>>29822964
Did you see much trees growing in the fucking desert?
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>tfw people from the other side of the world have come to fight with Kurds against Isis and I'm just sitting home playing fucking call of duty.
>inb4 why haven't you gone yet you coward bitch
Well it's because
1-im a coward bitch
2-im not allowed to go and fight
3-no one in my entire family has ever been a soldier
4-i can't run for 2 minutes without having to stop for 5 minutes.
Fuck this life I have
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>>29823048
Yeah, but the British army probably didn't teach him to strip an ak. Probably muscle memory makes him call out Brit army slang, or maybe he's fighting with another Brit and doing it for him. I kinda doubt that ypg has proper stoppage and clearing drills with callouts and stuff.
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>>29815955
Say that to the American M2 machine guns. Old parts get updated with little modification to the original gun.
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>>29821962
Because it comes down to the thinking behind the US and Russia.
US does something because it has the money for it.
Russia does something because it works for them.
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>>29822991

>.22 caliber

That's not a 5.45 ak my man
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>>29816387
Vote for freedom every season and you can stay forever.
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>>29822831
Diamondback Selling AR's now?

Jeez it seems like everyone that can mill aluminum forgings is pumping them out now.
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>>29822409
You can teach field stripping in about 2 minutes and there is clearly a another dude telling him what to do.
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>>29815955
They probably don't get to shoot them all that much too
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>>29821962
You seem to be implying that ARs and AKs can't both be reliable.
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>>29815543
What optic is he running?
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>>29820548
>Spend 20 minutes taking it apart
low quality bait
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>>29815751
>the ak has always been and will always be a subpar rifle.
>has always been... subpar
It was hot shit in the late '40s until the late '60s.

Back in a time when the West still using full power rifles because USA is fudds. Back when the only other assault rifle available en masse was Soviet captured StGs.
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>>29815543
Its a fucking machine, no machine is infallible. Shit breaks and doesn't work sometimes, get over it.
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>>29830441
Dogshit chinese red dot
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Looked like an ammo failure to me. Out of spec round not seating fully into the chamber. I've had plenty of ammo failures with shit ammo such as wolf in every firearm I've put it through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEWAbN938Ro
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I like how this go pro of fighting ISIS with blind fire and jamming a AK is only slightly less comical than Abu Hajaar blasting a MG3 at everything including the cab of the truck.
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>>29815543
it failed because of his ammo not because of the gun. You can literally watch videos of kurds scrubbing the shitty ammo they have to use with steel wool.
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broken case or some sort of case failure. could have been out of spec round that detonated outside of fully seated chamber and blew off the rim. it happens to all rifles. over charged round, weak points in the metal of the shell, lots of reasons. especially the dirtier the chamber gets. the case will get stuck and the extractor will rip the rim off or chip it, and boom, you have a round that cant be removed without sticking a rod down the barrel. you can also get a tool that goes into the broken shell and gives the extractor something to latch onto
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>>29822035
You can see the human heart breaking at 1:53 :(
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>>29815543
>what a fucking joke, mate, that woulda got me killed
For some reason it ain't funny...
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>>29816491
Yeah, in the middle of a devastating civil war you're going to have premium ammo 100% of the time.
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here is a good question? how fucking old is that AK?
everything has a shelf life and in shithole countries where guns are tossed about and fired wtih reckless abandon i'm sure that there are quite a few guns in use that should have been disposed of long ago
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>>29815543
All that money on fancy optics, gloves, and a nice leatherman and the guy is baffled by a situation he should already know how to deal with (without screaming)
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Reminds me of the north Hollywood shootout where the only gun to jam between a HK-91, AR and AK was the AK.
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