Recent Acquisitions
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Hey /k/ I just picked up this old shotgun from a local shop for $125. I probably overpaid but I was looking for a project gun to have some fun with and try to fix up. I read online that this thing is probably from around the turn of the century, its a "Chicago Long Range Wonder". Does anyone know what ammo is safe to shoot out of this thing? I've seen here several times that it isn't safe to shoot modern shotgun ammo out of older shotguns like this one. Also the stock is damaged, someone down the line taped it up to hold it together, I removed the tape and intend to repair it using wood glue and brass pins. More pics coming
Also general recent acquisitions thread.
Here's the damage pre tape removal
>>29784065
Even if it is a little beat up, that gun has some good ol' rustic charm.
>>29784065
>Chicago Long Range Wonder was a trade name used on shotguns made for Sears, Roebuck and Company of Chicago, IL and made by Andrew Fyrberg and Sons in the period 1899-1905.
>These shotgun s had Damascus or Twist Steel barrels which are not considered safe to use with modern ammunition.
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/chicago-long-range-wonder-double-barrel-404218.html
It *might* be okay with low base loads. Quiz your local gunsmith.
>>29784089
That's one of the things I loved about it, even if I don't get to shoot it much.
>>29784104
I'll have to check it out with them, I wonder if I made some really light hand loads if it would function ok?
The split, post tape removal.
>>29784104
If you want to have a shit ton of fun with that old bird, get some brass shells and pic related and load BP. You can shoot BP all day in that old shottie.
>>29784151
I didn't think of that, my step dad does black powder so I already have some experience with it. Thanks for the idea!
I'll post some pics I have where I fixed a split M1 carbine stock. You can do the same but I would re-enforce a wrist split with brass pins.
>>29784180
Force crack open. In this instance I could use wedges in the mag well opening.
>>29784210
My most recent purchase.Got it about 2 months ago.Decided i was gonna changed the furniture cause original wood was soft as fuck.Decided to buy a Romanian stock set and refinish it.
Heres the gun know.
>>29784226
Use shop vac to pull glue all the way through split.
>>29784065
If it's in good mechanical condition it's safe for any standard load.
The pressures of modern shotgun shells are the same as for the old black powder loads.
>>29784256
Remove wedges and clamp it up
5 full bandoleers of 30-06 made in 1918
>>29784262
I don't think that's true, anon. For certain rifle cartridges like the 45-70, yes. For shotties, no.
>>29784276
Done.
>>29784286
It's true for all cartridges.
Smokeless only allowed the same pressure for less powder volume. It did not suddenly change pressure ratings of older guns.
For quite a while blackpowder and smokeless were sold for the same guns without differentiation between them. People bought them based on price point.
>>29784282
You've been posting that in every thread, buy something new
>>29784286
It's easier to make lighter loads with BP too.
>>29784262
But-t-t-t no smoke.
>>29784307
I wouldn't risk my face on it. Not even with low base shells.
BP in brass cartridges sounds classy as hell, though.
>>29784180
>>29784210
>>29784226
>>29784256
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>>29784291
Nicely done, I had my Mosin stock split shortly after I got it from my dad, we used a similar method but I never used a shop vac to pull the glue though. Repair held up well too, put probably a good 2k rounds through it before I simply replaced the stock for one that looked nicer.
>>29784340
You know there's also no correlation between pressure and shell base?
In the black powder days the brass kept powder from burning through the waxed paper. Now it's done for style and marketing.
>>29784286
You sure about that? I thought that an original BP 45 70 can only use BP or reduced load smokeless. That modern trapdoor replicas can use more powerful ammo
>>29784308
I buy 5 every week
>>29784359
I'll take your word for it. I won't bet my face. Call me a fudd if you must.
>>29784395
5 full bandoleers?
>>29784065
Got this old (mid 90s) Taurus 44 for really cheap on a trade. It's super fucking nice and has the best Stainless finish I've ever seen. I'm super hyped.
>>29785067
That looks pretty sweet, I wanna get myself a larger caliber revolver, all I have is my Nagant.
>>29785106
It is but they're rare. Best you can usually do is a newer production Taurus 44 (which are very nice, don't listen to /k/) or a newer Single action clone.
Ruger and S&W big-bore Revolvers are expensive as all hell. I'd definitely get a Taurus 44 for sub-$500 before anything else.
>>29785067
Looks fucking slick, man.
Enjoy the hell out of it for the rest of us here!
I picked up a G40 "problem solver" 2 weeks ago and have already put 700 rounds through it, downed 2 wild hogs, and as far as I can tell 10mm IS NOT a meme round.
Seriously, this caliber seems rock solid in reliability and range.
Just my opinion though.
M500 picked up today for $359 new at Dick's. I dun gewd /k/?
>>29784065
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>>29784146
How do you cock a shotgun with internal hammers?
>>29785710
Thanks. Yeah it looks amazing and is pretty much an exact S&W copy. It's super nice. I'm excited.
Heya OP. I don't think $125 isn't bad at all for a double gun. If you like reloading black powder shells, you really struck some gold. If not, you've got yourself a charming little wall hanger. Good catch.
Do not. Put smokeless loads. In this gun. You can damage it irreparably.
>>29786037
When you hit the release and pull it open, it cocks the internal hammers.
>>29786064
This gun has gotten me interested in reloading some black powder shells, which I imagine eventually will lead into reloading for my milsurp guns. I don't intend to put smokeless in, I already have some black powder through my step father that I can use here along with shotgun primers, 69 caliber balls and wads, I just need the shells.
>>29784065
>>29784104
If indeed damscus steel, research the proof marks on your shotgun.
See what pressure it was proofed at.
Use that as a high end.
The problem, as I have research, with damascus/twist steel, is that rust forms inbetween the layers of steel weakening it overall.
So, find your pressure rating, and don't use more than that. Have a gunsmith check it to confirm if it is damscus, and if so, be wary that its integrity may have degraded in ways you cannot visually ascertain. Most shotshell boxes I have seen list the average pressure of their loads.
Don't be dumb and you won't lose your face.
>>29786091
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1657554245/magtech-shotshell-hulls-12-gauge-2-1-2-brass
Larry Potterfield has you covered. If you want a good watch, go through his videos on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mC4KDZnpr8
>>29786117
I was gonna say this. He's got some great vids.
>>29786263
Watching his safari gun video was amazing. I wish I had his skills.
>engraving
>case hardening
>checkering
>bedding
>scope mounting
>turning out custom cases for unique guns
The list goes on.
Just bought this AR-180. An original Costa Mesa Armalite rifle. Got it with two original AR-180 magazines and a bunch of Brownell's reproduction magazines for $950. It also included an original scope mount but sadly the original scope is MIA. Original scopes aren't too expensive though.
Had never really considered an AR-180 but this one came up to auction and I figured why not.
>>29786298
Right? He makes all of it look so freaking easy. After I finish a video I go look at my guns and I'm like, "yea! I can do that!" Then I watch the video again... And hang my head in shame then recase them.
>>29786378
Kind of reminds me of that old joke.
A man jumps in a cab in NYC, and asks "Hey, how do you get to Carnegie Hall?"
The cabbie just turns around and says "Practice, practice, practice."
I can't imagine how long he's been doing this, how many hours of experience he's accumulated, or how many projects he's garffed up to get to where he is. Imagine being his apprentice and how many little tips and hints you'd get learning under him.
>>29786309
No kidding. That's a nice catch, I hope you get it put all together.
>>29786420
Imagine the resume of someone he taught. All it would comprise of would probably be some sort of shell casing with a serial number and some special makers mark only Larry uses that can't be recreated by normal mortal hands.
>>29786497
You know what really makes me wonder sometimes?
My old man has a collection of old Krag Jorgensons. All of them are most likely guns that amateur smiths learned their trade on--little mistakes abound, the wood isn't always finished right, sometimes there's bad jeweling that wasn't or couldn't be corrected. But they all fit and shoot better than just about any gun in his collection. It kind of makes me wonder, where some of these guys went, maybe somewhere they have the crown jewel of their work stuffed away in a museum or private collection. It's always awesome to see those first few steps out into the craft from someone who might have gone on to make a name for themselves.
I gotta wonder if Potterfield has a few of those floating around out there, forgotten on the beater rack or just sitting over some trailer park TV set, long forgotten by their builder.
>>29786554
Honestly, I bet their first is a lot like the first time you have sex. Not perfect, but you'll remember it. Like I bet they could tell you a story about the first gun they ever built, but ask them about the fifth, or any other? I doubt you'd get more than a blank stare.
>>29785067
>Taurus
>44 Magnum
Enjoy your fucking grenade.
>>29786624
True that. I really wish I could find the guys that made some of these guns.
>>29784065
>Chicago Long Range Wonder
That's going to look fine over the fireplace.
I'd leave it there.
>>29785067
So got the Taurus 44 a few days ago and my last buy before that was this kewl S&W 4566TSW. I removed the Hogue grip and installed the original S&W Polymer one, but I got the Curved backstrap and think I should've gotten the Flat.
Anyway, this 4566TSW is SUPER nice - machining and fit are great, trigger is super nice, finish is beautiful and barrel lockup is really tight. Should be a very accurate gun and soft-shooting considering it's all steel. Hopefully going to the range today to try it out for the first time.
>>29786752
Original config I got it with the Hogue grip
And here is it currently.
>>29786429
Thanks. Hopefully get a chance to go to the range in the next couple of days and give it a go.
Actually have a bunch of new purchases I've yet to fire.
>>29786828
Beautiful but looks spooky to actually fire. I'm sure it would be great for my Flinching issue.
Bought my first firearm today. Walked into the fun store just to ask some questions and left with a s&w m&p9. Overall I'm very satisfied.
I walked into the funshop looking for a full frame Glock in .45 and ended up getting sold a Springfield XD .45
How bad did I do for my first gun at 469 plus tax and such
>>29786952
Price is fine, but the Springfield XD (imo) has a much better grip and ergonomics than the Glock. I also prefer the XD trigger to the Glocks but it breaks a little too far back against the frame for my tastes.
Glock fags will berate you for buying a 'croatshit' gun, but the XD guns are very good. They shoot great and fit the hand much more naturally than the Glocks.
>>29786917
Congrats. Here's a little protip though: don't buy ammo at gun stores. At least buy it at Walmart around 20 cents a round or, ideally, order it online from sites like SGAmmo.com or I like Freedommunitions.com for the selection.
Best place to find a mauser-pattern bayonet? I really want one, but it seems as though the prices are kind of up there.
>>29786995
Thanks I kind of figured that was the case. I live right next to psa in South Carolina and that's where I went. Really great guys. I used to go there about once a month to rent guns.
Just started the process for one of these, if I'm lucky I'll have it by Christmas
>>29787136
>not getting a hybrid
dude...
>>29784307
I am terrified that someone as idiotic as you shoots antique firearms. I am even more terrified foe the poor unknowing souls who stand too close to you when you inevitably have your glocknade moment
I put it on layaway until next week or the week after, but I grabbed a Gen2 Glock 20 (1991 production) for $450 OTD yesterday. It was a consignment piece.
Has one old pre-ban 15 rounder with it.
>>29788664
Color me jelly. Very nice
