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Be the You that Believes in Yourself (in the polygraph at MEPS) edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
Fuckers, get on the IRC channel.
>>29762820
How do I get a 35m contract? It's what I want to do and what my heart is set on. What is the best way to make it happen?
>>29762820
Lads general question, what is being green beret actually like? I mean day to day. If we can pretend for a minute someone makes it through 18x what kind of a life is he looking at?
>>29762877
try in October
>mfw nupoc review asks me this
3. Use calculus to find the volume of a plastic solo cup.
fucking /int/
https://discord.gg/0y3eBT2ji4rw32Dh
theres a discord server around too
>>29762932
Thanks. Is there more to it than that?
What the fuck are these threads? I've seen them on /k/ for some time now, but I never popped in. Are most of you waiting/considering enlistment or what?
I could answer some Marine infantry questions for anyone considering that (which you shouldn't be right now).
>>29762990
jobs reset in October, and mikes are overstaffed. and they only ship once a year. go take ASVAB and DLAB and wait for it to show up. your recruiter will hate you, but fuck them
https://youtu.be/aM3ElTvF52I
If you join the Army, try not to be like Abu Jahaar
>>29762943
the answer is always 16oz's nigger.
>>29763089
That's fine, fuck them and their dumb quotas
>>29763089
Also, is it October 1st of every year? If so, should I try to do it the first day?
>>29763119
yeah they will push 35N or 35P, hard. they will lie and tell you they can't or they won't. stick to your guns and say you want to take ASVAB and DLAB, or you'll go to air force
>>29763118
prove it with calculus pussy
>>29763021
These threads are mainly people on the edge about enlisting or are in dep. Navyfag here wish I knew what the fleet is like. ;_; im not even a reservists and im comming up on my year mark next month.
>>29762820
what weapons can you use to participate in the presidents hundred?
>>29763129
have ASVAB and DLAB finished before that. like way before that. start the process now, see what happens. get all the way through MEPS and tell them the job you want isn't available, thanks for your time. then you'll have the testing and physical done, and you can just keep harassing your recruiter. if they get shady, go to another recruiter. you'll be ahead of the game with all testing and physicals done, just have to secure the job and swear in
>>29763168
Are you stuck in school or something? Navy vet here.
>>29763089
Do you know if it's October 1st?
Any way to be an operator as a never served 29 year old?
I don't really need sleep or warmth, in excellent shape, smarter than most people, great shot.
Want to fight for the god emperor
>>29763193
Fire controlman life. My c school starts in october im sitting here masturbating and watching anime in great lakes until then. Going to japan after I learn the mk160 nec.
>>29763146
>yeah man monitoring radio transmissions is basically the same thing
I think the hardest part will be keeping a straight face, but I think I'll manage. Thanks for the info man, I really appreciate it.
>>29763220
Fcs are ok, where you getting stationed at, Yokosuka or Sasebo? Ship?
>>29763205
Join chaos friend
>>29763239
Mccamble out of yokosuka.
My dad is a navy vet and he said ill have it like cake compared to him as an en.
>>29763201
both my recruiter and an anon who used to be a recruiter confirmed that quotas and job listings reset in October, so yeah i'm pretty sure. like i said i'd have everything done at least a week or two before, in case the school ships in October. you can't ship less than 7 days after ASVAB and MEPS, and they only offer DLAB certain times a month
>>29763205
You're too old for almost everything.
The things you're not too old for won't allow you in because you'll be too old by the time you get to critical parts of the process.
>Smarter than most people
Rev up that ASVAB.
>>29763260
>en
Engineers are all literally retarded lazy faggots. They act liek the work hard but they skate and bull shit probably more than any other rate. Tell your dad i said that. Anyway Yokosuka is awesome and a destroyer is a great first ship. Youre gonna have a great time assuming you arent some weird huge faggot.
>>29763205
>I don't really need sleep or warmth, in excellent shape, smarter than most people, great shot.
Everyone I've known that I consider "operator" was very humble about themselves. You're jumping to a lot of conclusions. Never assume that you're "smarter than most people", or it will come back to bite you in the ass.
That being said, one of the greatest Marines I ever served with enlisted at the ripe old age of 28, and he did just fine. Made Sergeant in 3 1/2 years. Was looking to submit an officer package too. Even had a Colonel's recommendation. Unfortunately he decided to EAS at the last minute. The point is, it's never too late.
>>29763227
yeah i took signint because i don't want to wait. worst case scenario I'll reclass in a few years if i still want to do it.
So army-fags
Is it true the military is basically run by SJW's at this point?
It seems like there's a lot of hambeast officers being promoted nowadays
>>29763289
>never too late
For anything that would be considered "operator", too late comes pretty damn quick.
>>29762828
pls answer
>>29763304
Only if whatever organization you're attempting to join actually has age limitations, which I know some do. Other than that, it's all on you, really.
>>29763286
>assuming you're not a weird huge faggot
About that... Im here aren't I.
Thanks for the encouragement. All my instructors say that a ddg is a good place for you to settle in to. Since im an fc its going to be hard for me to go anywhere else because they want us to know just that one nec.
>>29763326
>About that... Im here aren't I
So am I and im nothing compared to what im talking about. You will meet some seriously weird and unstable people in the military dude. Most STGs are amazingly weird and autistic. And ya DDG and CG are the best ships in the navy. Bigger ships suck ass for a lot of reasons.
>>29763325
A lot of age limits now for certain schools that are required for any tier of ah-po-ray-tour. I guess you can get a waiver for some of them though.
>>29763205
cutoff for special forces is 30, hurry up
How does MEPS work? From what I have read it seems that you go there, get checked that you are suitable, do your test battery and pick your position and literally step right out the door to a plane.
>>29763352
Yeah I noticed that about stgs. I depped out of the same station as this guy in the aecf program like me but he got et instead of fc. He was always off in his actions. He couldn't make it past week 3 of basic electronics training and got rerated to stg.
Hey lads
Quick question. I went in for my physical today and they told me my ears needed a washout. I got past the other parts of the physical, but they told me I need to come back tmrw to get my earwax cleaned. Everything else was fine except for that.
I can p much expect to come in and get a whole other physical right? Or will I just get my ears washed, hearing retested, and get to sign me contract?
>>29763385
Ya a lot of ets are weird but Stgs take the cake easily. Anyway youre looking good overall man, good job ship and location. As long as you dont fuck up youll have a good time.
>>29763383
ASVAB day one, hotel, MEPS physical day two, swear in, get your BCT/OSUT orders. could be a week could be several months, depending on your job
>>29763383
You can do everything but step on the plane in one day. That part doesn't happen currently.
>>29763410
You can do the ASVAB and physical on the same day. Much less time wasted that way.
>>29762888
every morning you have to kill a hobo for 'murrica.
Well this is what i possibly qualify for
what do
>>29763410
>BCT/OSUT
What dis?
>>29763412
>>29763410
Also, how does USAF transit the people from Houston to San Antonio?
>>29763428
this is not available in my area
>>29763431
That just makes me want to do it even more. Gotta keep the streets clean of filth.
>>29762888
training foreign soldiers that you or your children will be fighting someday
>>29763465
I meant more stateside though.
>>29763437
basic training, and probably by bus
>>29763473
Not him, but
>special forces
>stateside for more than six months
>>29763387
They checked your ears? Didn't even look at mine
>>29763435
3/4ths of those are rare and will never be available for you. Not trying to be a dick. The helicopter jobs pop up with more regularity, but everything else is a pipe dream.
>>29763477
probably meant after leaving the army
>>29763435
what was your score? 37?
>repair everything
>or read the GPS coordinates for boat capt.
>>29763477
this. training/ readiness
>>29763477
>six months
That still is a period of time believe it or not. So during that time are you training frequently or off sense you are deployed so much?
>>29763442
Who told you that, and what's your area? There are a lot of things you can do for MEPS that they tell you you can't. You never HAVE to stay at the hotel, for instance. Some recruiters just prefer to set it up for separate days.
>>29763480
Airborne physical will check your ears, but sounds like anon flunked his hearing test.
>>29763529
No he needs a washout, its when you have a huge build up of wax.
>>29763515
>>29763515
>t. someone at MEPS hotel right now
ASVAB and TAPAS is 3.5 hours, MEPS physical is 8-10 hours, they don't want you to get "burned out"
Raleigh, NC
Helpful hint; remember this one for future /meg/ threads.
The MEPS definition of "symptomatic" is not the medical definition of symptomatic. If you have a plantar wart on your foot, it's not a DQ even though the internet will tell you it is. Anything that's listed as a medical DQ and includes "symptomatic" is not necessarily a DQ
>>29763562
>NC
It's an option, they just nudge you away from it.
what if im really retarded in Math?
how does the ASVAB work?
so i really wanna join the chair force
27 year old white male, fit
>i have weed in my system (washington state)
>i was born with only 1 fully functional kidney
i have been detoxing for a week or so now?
think i could get accepted or am i a lost cause
>>29763609
we have 60+ people getting processed tomorrow, I'm interested to see how efficient this is. MEPSCOM is here, too
>>29763622
Study algebra.
Grab a high school math textbook, it will literally contain everything you need.
These captchas are the worst. That's a pistachio, not a peanut.
>>29763645
i mean what if i score low in math? but well in every other section? US Army 11B will take math retards, right?
>>29763622
it fucking sucks if you're not good at math, hope you have a firm grasp of the english language or mechanical ability
>>29763632
Is it your first time through? It really is a special kind of stupid. On busy days you'll spend less time with the doc though, so that's a plus.
>>29763658
my roommate at MEPS got a 56 on his ASVAB, and all his line scores still qualify him for intel
his ST is 105, his GT is 101
>>29763658
They will. But do yourself a favor and study. There are other factors that can screw you here. They might not apply to you, but play it safe.
>>29763662
i finished my ASVAB at 4pm, watched NCIS in the lobby until 7:30pm when the shuttle to the hotel got here. tomorrow is going to fucking suck. i can't sleep and i have to be up at 4am. and yes, my first time
>>29763683
>>29763674
i will definitely study up on my math, do you know the scores for 19K? 87 on the ASVAB but is that just a total score?
WHAT THE FUG! I was considering joining the reserves but then i found I would need to ship out to the boonies with the full timers for 8 weeks basic training (kiwi here). While British reserves only need to train on the weekend for a few weeks!
>>29763711
>Combat (CO) - Word Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension, Auto & Shop and Mechanical Comprehension.
You need an 87 for that line score, so those are the categories you need to score decently in.
http://www.goarmy.com/learn/understanding-the-asvab.html
>>29763746
oh alright that clears things up thanks
>>29763735
Really? The British don't have a basic first? I find that highly unlikely.
>>29763711
another kid got into the 60s and he was well over what he needed for 19something. you have to be literally retarded to fail this, apparently. brush up on basic long division, formulas for triangles and circles, fractions, basic algebra solve for x, calculating interest, finding areas of rectangles and circles, and converting Fahrenheit to Celsius
>>29763769
60s is still better than 60% of people that take the test, if you didn't know. He's sliiightly above average.
anyone here ever meet a Chaplain?
what are they like?
>>29763796
My childhood friend just reclassed to chaplain's assistant. He seems more at peace now.
I got a 99 on my asvab and signed nuke how badly did I fuck up?
>>29763796
>he hasn't met the chaps
They're cool man. And they don't expect you to follow any religion. However there's this one at tsc great lakes who makes you feel like you're on sesame street everytime she talks to you. Bitch tellling me to spell. Fuck that. Anyways they may be Officers but most prefer you talk to them like anyone else because they need you to think that they're approachable.
>>29763784
i was the second highest with an 85. and i graduated high school in 04. so that means i haven't seen any sort of algebra for about 13 years. there were 18-24 year olds getting 40-60. that's the weird part to me. i was expecting a lower score since i haven't done this in a long time, these kids were doing this stuff a year or two ago and doing worse. not bragging, not talking shit, just an observation
>>29763825
Why pick it? I don't get the allure. Sounds like a pretty meh job with the single upside of being able to tell people your job later in life. No hate just curious.
>>29763825
>im pretty smart and signed up for a job that will open a million doors if you go back to civilian
youre fine
>>29763825
Pretty badly. However Theres an easy fix. In boot they will ask you which rate do you prefer. Go with MM. Shortest a school and you'll get e4 in less than 3 months. Drop out at power school and rerate to what ever the fuck makes you happy but as a 3rd class. Thats what the smart nukes do.
>>29763844
Yea, I get you. I took it at 18 before graduating and got a 93. Took it again at 23 thinking I'd do worse and got a 99. The ASVAB be fickle like that. If I got a 99, a lot of people that take the test are dumb. It's even multiple choice. I even RAN OUT OF TIME on a question during the math portion. I didn't even get to answer the last question, and I still got a 99.
>>29763628
You'd be like grandpa at lackland.
Recruiter would prob turn you away, give it a shot anyway.
>>29763383
>Went to recruiter first time last august
>took asvab/dlab september
>meps later that month
>signed 1a8 contract october
>left Jan 19th
>graduated mar 11
now here I am.
>>29763628
Absence of one kidney is a DQ, and likely impossible to get a waiver for.
>>29763909
>>29763920
thanks for the advice
Know you guys get a lot of MEPS questions, but I like to think mine could be a little different.
I have scoliosis, but I'd like to become a physician in the Navy. I'm working through college right now, and have awesome grades, 2 years left. I'm 5'10 185 with decent definition, a thin layer of "stocky" fat around my sides/back, but look in pretty good physical condition.
In junior high I got tested for it, and there was none to be found, after growth spurt in HS my mom who checked me for it a bunch when I was a kid (because she has like a 45 degree curve/twist.) I got taken to the doctor, and they found a 23 degree curve near lumbar and 17 degree thoracic. I then wore a brace for 1 year, and when done i had a 17 degree lower and 15 degree upper.
Another thing, I can run about 7 miles before feeling like I'm too winded, and can deadlift about 320, do 70ish pushups/ 25 pullups AND MY SPINE FEELS FINE, the doc said I was cleared to run a marathon and I'd have no pain.
That was 2 years ago, I know my spine has settled since then. I haven't gotten xrays, I just know how it feels.
I have several questions. How close will they check for scoliosis, as the major curve is kinda disguised since its so close to my waist, and the fat on lower back/sides kinda obscures it too. Also, if they do find it, what will they do? If they ask do I say I know I had it, say the last time it was checked, it was under the requirements? will they XRAY me?
Next up, since I want to be a doctor, would I be able to get a waiver since the job won't really be related to any fitness (that im aware of, not that it would matter since im fit)?
What is the line where I get caught for "lying" and get blackballed for every med school just because i wanted to join the navy?
>>29763796
you literally get a chaplain brief every time you go down the tech school pipeline
So yes, and chaplains are always great people
>>29763796
>>29763844
No nig left behind bro.
The pain is real, this country is fucked.
>>29763928
My advice is 10 years out of date, but def give it a shot and look for an older recruiter if you really want to give it a go.
>>29763931
If they notice it, they will measure it.
If you mention it to a recruiter, they will notate it and you will be checked at MEPS.
If they find it at MEPS, you're already past a point in which they would have asked you if you have it. If you lied, goodbye. If you admitted to it, they'll measure it. You would not be blacklisted from anything but the military.
>>29763943
the ghetto nig in basketball shorts, a wife beater, with the kid n play haircut got like a 28 or 29, he fucked up signing in, the liaisons were constantly scolding him, his recruiter came and picked him up from the hotel. no MEPS for him, i guess
>>29763960
>>29763931
Also, google that shit. I don't remember the exact curvature limits, but it's easily attainable info. The acceptable range is pretty wide, you might be fine.
>>29763960
What about the waiver?
And what if they find it and it is above the limit, is it as simple as "you dont cut it sorry" or do factors like job requirements, severity of limits due to pain/whatever factor into it.
Also, I've heard about senators/governors possibly being able to tell them to suck it and let me in anyway?
>>29764007
the cutoff is 20 degrees on lumbar, which i am over, at least i think so, the only time i was under the limit was when i was done wearing my brace, but odds are i have sunken back into it, and i dont think the brace will work since ive grown an inch or two.......maybe ask the doctor if it will work?
>>29764009
>c. Deviation or curvature of spine from normal alignment, structure, or function if -
(1) It prevents the individual from following a physically active vocation in civilian life.
(2) It interferes with wearing a uniform or military equipment.
(3) It is symptomatic and associated with positive physical finding(s) and demonstrable by x-ray.
(4) There is lumbar scoliosis greater than 20 degrees, thoracic scoliosis greater than 30 degrees, and kyphosis or lordosis greater than 55 degrees when measured by the Cobb method.
If any of those apply, it's a DQ. Waivers for that... The important one is the range. If you're outside those angles, you're probably a no go.
>>29764029
c. Deviation or curvature of spine from normal alignment, structure, or function if -
(1) It prevents the individual from following a physically active vocation in civilian life.
(2) It interferes with wearing a uniform or military equipment.
(3) It is symptomatic and associated with positive physical finding(s) and demonstrable by x-ray.
(4) There is lumbar scoliosis greater than 20 degrees, thoracic scoliosis greater than 30 degrees, and kyphosis or lordosis greater than 55 degrees when measured by the Cobb method.
Any of those are a DQ. Being outside the range might make a waiver impossible. If it was possible, it would be unlikely.
>>29763959
my dad who served in vietnam always told me i would never be able to join because of it
its honestly been a dream of mine since i was a young lad to join some branch of the service
anyway, thanks for your advice
>>29764045
Gotcha, well in that case, gonna have to take the route of I had no idea.
So, what all do they check for, and how do they check for it, for scoliosis is it just a 2 second bend over or is it a thorough poking and prodding.
What time of year is best to go to have the most people there to ensure the doctor won't take as much time looking at me? Would it be better to try to make myself overweight to obscure it or possibly get in really good shape so they're less inclined to notice
>>29763448
remember to keep the ears for your necklace. gotta look pretty for the president.
>>29763477
Ricky mentioned once the ODAs weren't deploying that much. They could spend a couple of years stateside I think.
>>29764089
Right when highschoolers graduate is the busiest time. A forewarning, you will receive a one-on-one examination no matter what, and they will see your back. If you can find a way to sit upright and pass a quick cursory glance, you have a chance.
If you want to lie you'll have to play it pretty carefully. You do sign releases for them to access your medical records. They don't always check them, but if you end up needing a clearance they will look a little closer.
>>29764089
>>29764153
If you can, go to a doc and get a new measurement if there's even a slight chance you have nothing to worry about. Honesty will be a lot easier, you know?
>>29764089
Multiposting here but I just realized I glossed over part of your question. It's just a quick peek. They'll look again when they listen to your lungs, too. When you're sitting around waiting for the one on one examination, try to jockey for a spot with the doc who's processing people the quickest.
I posted in the last thread but I want to ask again.
Is it possible to get a combat role during "peace time" right now? Do you have to go SF?
>>29763437
Bus
>>29763628
No kidney is no go.
>>29764228
You got an answer last thread.
If you can get a contract like 18x, then pass more classes, selections, and qualifications than you can imagine, then yes.
Outside of that? No.
>>29764153
>>29764167
Thanks. A few notes. You really can't see it in my spine. Only if he were to ask me to bend over and traced my back, very carefully poking and stuff, if he just looks, im fine i think. Also, is it considered lying if i say there's no problems since the scoliosis( the last time it was checked) was underneath the limit? Also if they do check the records, is it an instaboot if they find out i lied, or just a reprimand/pay dock?
>>29764228
Look into air force PJs, TACP, CCT, and SOWT.
>>29764257
A third thing, what if I just say I plain forgot? It was four years ago and never affected me, say I pretend like I never actually wore the brace, just forgot about it and kept on living like it never happened?
>>29764260
Would I get laughed out of the recruiting office if I asked about trying to join those?
>>29764260
>Look into air force PJs, TACP, CCT, and SOWT.
These are things we can pursue once we sign and begin our service proper?
>>29764257
You can access the questionnaire online, too.
It will ask if you have any history of scoliosis.
You'll check yes or no. It is fraudulent enlistment if you're caught.
Lie at MEPS and get caught? Meh.
Lie at MEPS, don't get caught, get caught after you're in? You are straight bye-bye fucked.
If I were you and it wasn't visible? I'd take the shot. You really, really shouldn't risk it... But I'd do it. Your medical records *usually* don't ever get checked unless you have a problem once in service.
>>29764307
Gotcha, that's what I'm thinking is the way to go as well. So now the question is what does it mean they are "checking" my medical records? Are they just checking the state department, or is it something they go all out on? Thanks for responding btw
>>29764364
From what I've heard, and we're leaving my area of knowledge here, the ones that hard charge and dig into stuff are the clearance folks. Even then, they only do so when there's a reason for them to. Outside of that, it's actually very difficult for them to get your civilian medical records since HIPPA. In the majority of cases, they're never seen. The recruiter would tell you otherwise, and so will other internet sources, but it really (to my knowledge) just doesn't happen unless something raises suspicion once you're in.
>>29764433
>>29764364
And this is coming from someone who may or may not know exactly what it's like to weigh a similar decision to the one you're weighing right now. That someone never encountered an issue.
>>29763205
didnt the most famous navy seal sniper enlist at age 30?
dont know shit about how military works, afraid to talk to recruiters because dont want them to harass me into joining to make their comissions/quotas like the used car salesmen vultures i hear they are.
my question is, can you take the entrance tests (ASVAB) without any commitments/signing forms? so you can have an idea about what job is realistic for you to get before committing ?
>>29764658
If you are scared to talk to a recruiter you sure as shit are not going to join the military.
>>29764658
Some recruiters try to sell you and some are really chill. Either way you have no commitment to go anywhere or do anything until the day you actually go to basic training. Just don't let yourself be sold and it won't happen. You can do what I did, and tell a recruiter that you want to take an asvab before going to meps to consider your options. I took mine at some devry campus. Depending on what branch you join, you may or may not know exactly what job you may be getting when you go to meps. Don't let that worry you. Go into meps with a list of jobs you are willing to work, see if you get one, and if not say thanks but no thanks and walk away. Some people will probably try and guilt trip you into taking something you don't want saying you're wasting their time, but stand your ground and wait for them to offer something you want.
>>29764658
And is that how you want to live your life? Man up, amigo. Just walk in, test, and look at jobs. They can't make you do anything, and it's their job to help you out and try to get you to sign.
Alright, so for Navy SEALS you have to do 20 years for the retirement. Obviously as you age you become less physically capable, so are only the younger people who become SEALS able to manage it? Like 20 year olds and whatnot? Like are people that become SEALS in their late 20s fucked for the retirement? Or are you just in combat less when you get older, or what?
I'm obviously ignorant about this, I'm just curious. I'm 20 years old and only in OK shape, but I'm curious if I had a chance if I were to really rigorously get in good shape for the next 2 years, would I be okay for the long run? I want to get in good shape regardless.
>>29765049
No you don't. You can do 20 years or become an officer and then you can retire whenever you finish a tour of duty.
>>29765049
And it doesn't work like that. Not all SEALs do Act of Valor shit. Officers stop being "operational" at Lieutenant Commander (0-4). Enlistedmen stop getting operational assignments around 08-09
(Senior Chief/ Master Chief Petty Officer)
>>29765191
E8-E9* beg your pardon.
>>29764658
Don't join the Navy you fucking pussy.
What branch/MOS do I pick if I want to wear a blaze orange vest over the BDU, don't want to get shot at, and requires little training? I was thinking construction. Is there such a thing as road construction in the military?
>>29765273
Yeah join the CB's you'll have a good one.
Fellow /k/ommandos a couple years ago when i was 17 shit happened i went in and lived in a behavioral facility for 6 months was deemdd perfectly fine just had family issues i had to stay there for awhile but i got sent to a youth shelter who found my paper work and got me sent to a hospital that slapped me with an unidentified psychosis without even speaking to me im 20 now want to join the armed forces but dont know how fucked i am can i get that cleared up? Will i never be allowed in? I was told not to lie because i could get discharged and a get a felony charge (cant lose muh guns and my career path) just wanna know if anyone has any clue what i can do
>>29765543
Anything mental is usually a no-go bro. Sorry to hear that the govt fucked you. Most govt jobs wont take you, but you can try the National Guard/ Reserves.
off to MEPS, I'll let you guys know how it goes tonight, unless i fuck up. then you'll know sooner
>>29763220
Fuck man I wish I was on a surface ship...
>>29763628
Don't tell them you only have 1 kidney. I'm stationed in a sub right now with only 1 kidney and the sub force is all about disqualling people they don't deem fit
>>29763766
>All Army Reserve recruits attend the combined arms Phase 1 (Alpha) over 4 weekends at regionally based Army Training Units (ATUs). Alternatively if time allows Reserve recruits can undertake this training in a 7 day consolidated period at selected ATU locations, or at a Regular Army Phase 1 training establishment.
>Upon successful completion of Phase 1 (Alpha) soldiers of the Army Reserve then go on to attend the 15.5 day residential, Phase 1 (Bravo) course at either the Army Training Centre (Pirbright) or Army Training Regiment (Grantham), provided predominantly by Regular Army instructors. Recruits pass out of these Training Centres on day 15 with a formal parade to which family and friends are made most welcome to celebrate and share your success.
I know the aus army reservists do 35 days basic plus some prior training at home units. The RAAF reservist's do either the 12.6 week course full time or in 3 4 week blocks (had a mixture of people doing both on my recruit course.)
Aeronautical engineer here, whose also pretty good in other fields. What's a good active MOS that makes use of my degree?
>>29765940
Avionics Tech
>>29766165
Fuck, sounds cool. Thanks.
>>29766250
Lol no. I'm an avionics tech for MC130Js in the USAF, don't go into maintenance. Unless an avionics tech is different in the army, don't know why it would be though.
>>29766296
Recommend anything better then?
>>29766317
Blackhander
>>29766296
What is maintenance like? I mean, when tech school is done I'll be flying out of offutt in rc135s for my job and I want to ask what it's like to work on planes.
>>29762820
What's a good Navy rate to get into?
Not necessarily looking for something that's useful outside the navy, just something cool to do for a few years, a unique experience.
"Choose your rate, choose your fate"
But which fates aren't cancer?
>>29762820
posted this in another thread and no answer maybe here I'll get one.
anybody here got any experience in ADA MOS? Currently doing OCS and the ADA (Air defense artillery) branch really interests me. Though the administrative sergeant told me that if I ADA was near my top 5 commissioning choices I would get selected to it since not many people go in it.
I'm just asking for some info on daily activities, what to do, where does the MOS get posted (State or country whatever) and just some general info before I pick it and get fucked in the ass raw style.
>>29767494
Depends on what you want to do after the navy. Em ht will set you up as an electrician or plumber easy. The navy will set you up with thoes certs. Et fc it ic will set you up with computernetworking or telecommunications making you a lot after you get out. At gives you ojt for air traffic control. Use navy.cool to find out more of that kinda shit.
>>29767494
>>29767575
If you want a unique experience go with a top sider rate ic et fc gm bm qm any avation rate.
>>29767494
Navy vet here, if you only wanna do 4 years and have a cool rate go OS. Thats what i was on a cruiser and in all honestly being an OS is top 3 rates you can have on a smaller ship.
>>29767494
Aviation, any rating working on a P-8.
Fuck boat navy.
>>29767639
If you go off of terms of how easy it is then yes but that shit is lame. If youre gonna be in the navy be on a ship. Especially if you are only doing 4 years and getting out.
>>29767626
OS STOP FICKING WITH MY KNOBS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29767682
ET? Fix my shit while i go get a cafe Au lait
>>29767639
>>29767626
>>29767608
>>29767575
Thanks for the quick answers m8s
I'm not super interested in aviation, although I did a quick little search on forums and saw that people think it's a pretty good rate
Right now I'm tossing it up between FC, OS, maybe even QM.
Don't want to burst a vein studying for my rate, but don't want a dummy feeder either.
Sup /meg/amen.
I'm 25, bday in december.
I've been looking at the Coast Guard mostly. Two points though.
I already have a college degree and I'll be wearing braces till 6/2016.
Anyone have any advice or pointers?
>>29767719
Im telling you right now go OS, short school but a cool job with lots to do. Plus little to no maintenance. There is a lot of watch but honestly that aint even that bad.
>>29767723
Why would you ever choose coast guard over navy? Im seriously asking is there some reason i dont know of?
>>29767739
When I set an interview with the recruiter I'll ask him about it for sure
thanks anon
got any interesting/funny stories from being an OS?
Also what ship did you serve on?
>>29767739
>>29767767
Tell him about the time you woke up a techinican after his 24 hour trouble shooting to fix the display when it turns out it was the brilliance knob turned completely off.
>>29767765
I'm not entirely sure.
I know the differences are pretty big, but I'm not sure how it translates into a different experience or post-service life.
>>29767767
I was 2 cruisers.
Bro anyone who spends 4 years in the navy on a ship will have a million stories easily.
>be me
>in singapore with a crew of friends
>Go to the orchard towers aka the 4 floors of whores
>selling pitchers of rum and coke for 10 dollars
>shitfaced
>see a young stupid bm making out with a 6 foot tall tranny and he cant even tell cause hes so drunk
>see the air dell whores dancing half naked on the dance floor and half the ship is watching them
>leave and go to a message parlor for some action
>friend goes back
>filipina honey rubs my dick through my shorts while i wait
>all hell breaks loose
>whore stole friends ipod to hold for ransom or something
>huge chaose breaks out
>steal it back
>we all bolt out of the whore house
>go to the downstairs restaurant and feast on asian chicken to finish the night
Just another typical night on liberty
>>29767806
Bro we do that shit on purpose, we fake being stupid and laugh about it
>>29767824
Just man up and go navy
>>29767723
I'm 25 as well, going Army though, purely because I got to pick my MOS.
>>29767765
I imagine because it's probably nicer living conditions, and you remain stateside. Both very respectable reasons.
>>29767765
Non coastie or squid here, but the USCG is the largest professional maritime rescue organization there is. The Navy handles international force projection and the puddle pirates work as ocean police and rescue workers.
The USCG does have some form of international interdiction officer job, where you get embedded with the navy and get to fast rope onto boats the big ships disable or blockade to arrest the bad guys on board. Posse Comitatus prevents uniformed military from acting as police, IIRC, so the USCG guys are DOT and have the arresting authority as technically non-designated combatants. I am not personally sure of this, but I am a professional rescue worker who has heard all of this time and time again from friends in the USCG, as well as from my father who served a full 20 in the USN.
>>29767863
>nicer living conditions
Not true
>remain stateside
Why would you want that? If you are young and have no hold backs go all the way. If you got a family its different but if thats the case just go Air Force.
>>29767867
Thats true but again either go full out and go Navy of just chill and go Air Force. The Coast Guard isnt better than either based on what you are looking for.
>>29765273
CB's/Seabees might fit. My father served during Desert Storm, mostly repaired roads, base structures, and some vehicles.
>>29767844
haha that whore story sounds awesome
That's kind of what I'm looking for, just a good time and getting paid for it
>>29768173
I got hundreds of stories just like that and the thing is im not special in that regard. Any one whose on a ship will have loads of stories. Try to get stationed on a CG or DDG somewhere on the western side of things and youre golden for a good time. I was stationed in San Diego which was amazing itself but Hawaii or Yokosuka Japan are close seconds and thirds.
USAF Trainee here, just got a call from my recruiter that an open M55 slot was available, told him to put my name on it for now 'cause it's probably going to disappear in llike 5 minutes. The question I wanted to ask, is if signing onto an open area like that is a good idea. I'm intent on seeing one of the 5th Gen tac air maintenance spots open up, should I call him back and tell him?
I'm 21 and looking to join one of the branches in 8 months to a year.
Kind of want some combat xp so I can hopefully work security contracts when I get out.
I thought about joining special forces but delta requires close to 6-8 years, and I doubt I could pass the security clearance anyhow.
Any suggestions?
Just got back from my ASTB. Got 70, so despite my background in natural science, my recruiter mentioned trying to for information warfare or intelligence since neither of us are very confident about me getting my first choice of meteorology and oceanography since it's such a small field.
Can anyone here tell me more about those jobs aside from what I can find online? Does either position take place primarily on ships? How easy would it be to go to graduate school while having one of those positions?
>>29768971
Go 18X or 11X. Can't guarantee combat though
>>29769042
>information warfare or intelligence
Go CTR im telling you right now. Awesome job all around plus sweet work location on ships and can get stationed at lots of shore intel bases around the world. Top secret clearance as well.
>>29769063
That does look kind of neat, though I've always been nervous about the investigation for secret clearances. What's day to day life like? And are there many opportunities for taking graduate classes with that position? If I don't go career, I'd like to come out with more than just a veteran stamp on my future job applications.
>>29769130
That job has a lot of out of navy job opportunities with NSA like companies/sections of the government. Day to day at sea they just stand watch in there own secret area no one else is allowed in aka fuck around and watch movies. And again the shore duty oppurtunities are so easy that you can easily take glasses and get a degree. However a similar job with even more civilian applications is to go IT. I still would put CTR over it cause its a cooler job but IT would set you up well for when you get out.
>>29769155
>That job has a lot of out of navy job opportunities with NSA like companies/sections of the government.
I think I will hold that job in my back pocket, then. I'm colorblind, so law enforcement is out for me, but as a veteran with a background like that, I may be able to finagle something. And that's assuming I don't go career. Retiring at 45 sounds nice
In USAF DEP, shipping out July.
I want out so I can join the Navy.
What is the best way of expediting my discharge so I can DEP with the Navy?
Written letter? Verbal communication over phone? E-Mail with CC to the RECRUITCOM?
AD Warrant Officer here bout to jump on a chinook, will answer questions as time allows
>>29763290
Man... I knew sigint people who were in around 2005 who never deployed.
If anyone is going to be washing rocks, I'd imagine it is going to be you.
>>29763939
This
In the Marine Corps you have a mandatory meet with one in boot and at itb/mct, then of course you can make an appointment to speak with one at any time.
>>29769529
You don't have to do anything, sperg. If you're so much of a bitch that you're even asking this then just ignoring his calls and such will work for you.
>>29769765
not a chance, but thanks for the nightmares. got my physical done, ASVAB done, started the clearance interview but my faggot recruiter misspelled all kinds of shit on my SF86 so they have to update my file to continue. and their computer is down. so i'm back at the hotel AGAIN. tomorrow i finish security interview and swear in
any MEPS or ASVAB questions let me know
>>29769889
None from me. I went to meps twice in 2002 and twice last month for the afoqt and a physical.
It is still as stupid as I remember it to be. Still, it was fun watching how scared all the kids were.
>>29769987
so many kids fucked themselves, agreed, pretty funny.
the briefing that threatened jail time and dishonorable discharge made them all say they've smoked pot before, the profile part some kid mentioned he got a concussion a week earlier, all kinds of shit
and all the gays went navy, its not a joke. like flaming homosexuals.
sjw bulldyke feminist got butthurt and triggered when they said "guys" in the briefing. she's trying to be an Intel officer
>>29770092
The hotel was fun too. I live 62 miles away from the meps so they made me stay there.
In the rec room there was some kid still in high school talking about how he was going to be an air force pilot by the end of next year, another saying that he signed for army helo mech because it is the best way to become a helo pilot, and another kid who couldn't remember what his job was but kept bragging saying "I'm the guy who PUSHES THE BUTTON!"
I didn't have the heart to correct them. I just sat around listening to them all tell their little stories and laughing on the inside.
>>29770176
Crew chief is a solid path to pilot you nance
Anybody have any stories or anything at all related to MEPS in Houston?
>>29770203
If he wanted to be a pilot he should have gone street to seat, tard. Now he has to wait the tis requirement to do a package, which obviously you have no idea about so go ahead and google how long that is - I'll wait.
Shitposting kiddies who don't know shit about shit, pls go.
>>29770233
Kek you're right, what would I know
>>29762820
I didn't get a polygraph at MEPS. Just a guy with a poster about how lying is bad asking me if I was lying.
But then again I didn't get a finger up the ass either.
>>29770176
the Freedom Lounge or whatever was full of motard faggots hooahing each other and calling each other POGs (like the 90s toy caps) and talking about going ranger or SEAL. it was like a live action/meg/, very surreal
>>29770233
going into the helo field is the best way to get knowledge to pass your tests for pilot eligibility
there are also no reqs for a package other than putting one in through arsof
source is me, someone who put in a packet through arsof
>>29770233
>>29770301
Fucking KEKT
>>29765820
hows nuke school and life in a sub?
>>29767867
theyre homeland security now iirc
>>29770301
A kid wearing a plate carrier in the middle of the day and is too scared to even show rank insignia... yeah, that definitely doesn't seem like something a tryhard admin fag would do.
Nice samefagging though. You rekt me so good.
where the /army/ questions at
I will answer all I can
>>29769529
Literally just tell your recruiter you want out. It's that easy.
>>29770477
thats an acu flak vest on someone wearing ocp/multicam
you tried though
>>29770477
You're showing your ignorance bud.
Aircrew Body armor doesn't have rank insignia, but I'll take another pic for you in a while. You flatter yourself too much to think I'd waste my time samefagging you.
>>29770374
I don't see how being a mechanic would help you at all. Like people looking to be air force fixed wing pilots, you should be reading, and if you're super serious you should be logging civilian hours... not wasting your time playing around in basic training and tech school to turn wrenches.
You guys have a specific program to get 18 year old kids into the warrant officer programs, not doing that seems like hyper retardation to me.
>>29770511
having hands on with the craft is important so you know how to not piss off the mechanics, since its their bird, not yours
and any helo mechanic ait is pretty detailed, "turning wrenches" is pretty blanket for what actually goes on in the understanding of how it works
and lower enlisted in the army is an experience everyone should have
>>29770505
>>29770499
I wouldn't be caught dead in the army, brosef. I would like to know why an "air crew" person apparently would be the one-stop shop for all information on being a pilot. I'm wondering because when I think of air crew I immediately picture the loadmaster, that barely literate guy who plays tetris in the bay.
Don't bother posting anymore pictures. If you're already posting old stuff I'm going to assume you're just stealing things from other anons... and it is not like I'd actually be impressed that you have done something so mundane as join the us army, so it is pretty pointless.
>>29770563
the army is pretty fun desu senpai
>>29770563
>why would an aircrew person be the one stop shop for all info on being a pilot
Because I am a pilot. These pictures are from right now. Have a good one day pal.
>>29770549
I'm not convinced. There is a program for it, so there is no point to being a mechanic first other than to supposedly rating more respect once you pin on wo.
>and lower enlisted in the army is an experience everyone should have
I'm 50/50 on this. Being enlisted definitely made me who I am today but I still rage about how much time I wasted because I didn't have a decent mentor to help me when I was making bad decisions.
Something I have been curious about for a while - I know commissioned officer candidates and wo people in the army go to basic with the enlisted kids. Is there any distinction made between them while they're there?
>>29770563
Why are you in meg if you're just shitting on a real soldier's posts? This is why vets avoid you cunts like the plague.
>>29770615
What are you doing in the back of what looks like a 130?
To me, air crew are all rated personnel - loadmasters, flight nurses, nav, flight physicians, etc.
>>29770626
Just your MOS code which doesn't mean shit in basic anyway.
Redpill me on Marines /k/
Particularly 03 series
>>29770647
I'm training other aircrews in aerial gunnery. And it's not a C130. There are two types of aircrew members. Rated aircrew (flight docs and pilots) and nonrated aircrew (crew chiefs, medics)
>>29770638
Prior enlisted, commissioning in the air force, waiting for the next non-rated board. I post sometimes in hopes of someone having useful information but I have found that very few people in these threads join the air force and even less go officer.
FYI: most vets don't care about anything military, which is why the majority of the people in these threads are kids and people who are currently in looking to whore up some attention.
>>29770693
So you think pilot guy is whoring? Pretty sure he came on here yesterday just to answer questions and help out.
Do any of the ROTC programs care about the ASVAB if you took it?
I'm a freshman at community college, didn't take the SAT or ACT. I don't really care about the scholarship either. Plan on transferring to a 4 year uni next semester, once I'm there I can just talk to the AFROTC det and get involved right?
>>29770563
wew lad, get a load of this faggot
>>29763435
88k you either go to hawaii or virginia
>>29763435
Didn't they retire the Kiowa?
I'd say the only job you could realistically get is 15R.
>>29763628
>i was born with only 1 fully functional kidney
Well, it's not like they're going to check.
If you're otherwise fit and healthy, and you can pass your phys...
>>29770334
Same here. I didn't even have to do the duckwalk! And there were only, like, 4 kids in my group so I only had to wait twenty minutes for the doctor. I almost want to go back and get the real MEPS experience.
saw a bunch of kids fuck their lives up today.
>the kid that got a 91 asvab and 125 DLAB wanted cryptolinguist, wasn't available so he chose psyops
>chick wanted to be a pilot, they convinced her to go open maintenance
>built as fuck kid wanted 11x option 40, combat engineer
>nerdy autistic fat kid wanted SEAL, they told him he was too smart, chose nuke
>kid wanted to be an MP, wasn't available, chose 92G
>chick wanted 35F, wasn't available, 35G because "its like the same thing"
>almost every kid going navy signed open contracts
60+ people in all, i doubt anyone got what they wanted
I just turned 18 and after hearing about Trump wanting ground troops to fight ISIS, I am really excited. Will this be my generations war?
>>29763387
Just the ears
>Have to go back to my recruiters office tomorrow and give middle names for every character reference, address verification reference, and employment history reference I listed
fuckin ayyy mate, I thought I could just leave that shit blank
>>29771462
they really dont care about bosses middle names, just your references
Any fc here? If so whats your nec? And what does it entail?
Air Force Security Forces here
ask if you have q's
>>29771349
Those aren't all bad.
PSYOP is a solid MOS and one that won't get you kicked out of the Army like 35P.
Can't fucking be an enlisted pilot. So chick was dumb.
Autistic kid should not be a SEAL. Nuke would be better, but almost anything would be better.
>>29771631
Why are you guys gigantic faggots
>>29771631
>air force security force
Dont yoy guys call yourselves "freedom defenders"?
>>29771652
well there's lots of gay people in our field for some reason
>>29771668
no, just defenders
>>29771349
>Mfw "there are now infantry contracts"
>mfw "there are no op40s"
>mfw don't take no for an answer
>mfw 11xop40
>mfw fuck my shit up in training because fuck me
>mfw army's like "Lol, you did this to yourself before enlisting, separated, better luck next time"
>mfw I have no face
Can someone redpill me on the two chicks who past RASP a couple years back? I heard that it was bunk
>>29771787
Should be
>there are no infantry contracts
>>29771794
I thoguht it was ranger tab school, and no they arent the same thing before anyone calls me retarded. And considering they are women id assume it was bunk.
>>29771794
>>29771851
Two female officers passed ranger school. One was an MP, one was a 64 pilot iirc
>>29771379
18 year old enlisted here, please get a lobotomy immediately
>>29771349
>>29771787
>that kid who gets a 98 on the ASVAB and enlists as 11B
I am that kid
ama
>>29772194
You're not special
Any corpsman here? I have a couple of questions about surge tech
>>29772202
special ED maybe!
LOL!!
>>29772125
fucking pussy ass
>>29772194
What's like being smart and dumb at the same time??
>>29772217
Really depressing tbqh
>>29772217
In my experience, the only people who don't score in the 85th percentile and higher are legit retards - the types of people who barely passed algebra 1 and graduated high school with like a 2.01 gpa, native English speakers who don't know when to use there/they're/their to/too...
The older you get the more depressing life becomes when you realize how stupid the large majority of people are. Of course as an American at least it is easy to take advantage of governmental systems and make a lot of money, but still, it is frustrating when you run into someone in a supervisory position who is average or a moron.
>>29772603
>>29772603
>3/4 of the people score below 85
confirmed for being retarded
Here's how percentile tests are scored: 85 means that 85% of people scored worse than you did on the test.
>>29772396
tfw i graduated with a 2.2 and got a 96 asvab and a 29 ACT
i am smart yet retarded
>>29772885
Shit GPA but good test scores means you have shit study habits and/or are lazy. That's pretty common.
Too bad being dumb with good study habits/work ethic is way more valuable than smarts backed up with no ability to apply it to work/school.
>>29772603
Why did they delete this?
>>29772194
We have sames
>>29772923
yeah, reason i enlisted is that i turn into a different person if its an athletic or situational challenge.
I'm think of joining as a DEO (ch)Airforce. Military Intelligence.
Is this stupid?
>>29772989
Nothing in Intel, especially AF, is a bad choice.
>>29772989
>DEO
Haven't seen that acronym in like ten years.
What are you getting your information from?
>>29773057
I'm Canadian, so just like our gear, our terminology is 10 plus years out of date
>>29773064
>BAZINGA
>>29773064
Ha...
The first time I met members of the Canadian military was in Kandahar - they were wearing forest utilities.
>>29773097
That sounds like us. At least we're digital. Or have you guys caught up on that?
>>29773112
didn"t we change from digital again tho?
>>29773130
Camo tech just seems like a way for contractors to brag about how much they waste money.
Wear green when you're in forest.
Tan when you're in desert.
White when you're in snow.
>>29773112
>us
>>29773176
I grew up on a military base. Forgive me if I'm overly familiar.
I'm a Canadian looking to enlist, however, I was considering immigrating to the US in a few years so would it be a smarter decision to look into enlisting into the US army? Would service help me get my foot in the door for a citizenship, or is serving even possible without a citizenship? Also, my buddy is in the US navy, he goes to basic some time next year or something, would he get benefits if i said he referred me or any shit like that, and if I decided to go with the navy, would it be possible to be in his unit? Thanks.
>>29773395
>would he get benefits if i said he referred me or any shit like that,
He'd get 30 days free subscription, and you'd get a cosmetic hat.
>>29773395
You need your green card to join.
You can't usually hook up going to the same place as a buddy.
>>29773395
In general, you need to be a resident to enlist and a citizen to be an officer.
There are sensitive enlisted jobs that require you to be a citizen but that isn't relevant for you, I'm just stating it so one of the fifty faggot google ninjas who hasn't even served infesting /meg/ doesn't get buttmad.
>>29773395
Navy is for queers
>>29773395
Why would you want to join the same exact unit as him? I'm sure the Navy would accommodate a special relationship like you and your "friend" have.
>>29773652
>>29773679
samefag please go, no one thinks its funny
>>29773679
For real.
You guys know you can get married these days, right?
>>29773652
my MEPS roommate yesterday was going navy, and super gay. kept talking about grindr and his boyfriend
11b Nasty Girl. Ask me about being in a guard tower. Hooah
>>29773718
i do.
>>29773718
>>29773748
Me too.
>>29773718
>no one thinks it's funny
Squid pls go.
Go back to your shack with 4 other dudes in a 6X6 room.
do the old boomer subs have asbestos?
i dont want to get cancer
>>29773748
>>29773758
>>29773764
Im saying that joke is played out, its so un original and its not even based on any fact. There are so many whores in the navy even autists get some underway if they want it.
>>29773787
>there are so many whores in the navy everyone gets some
yeah we know..... kinda proved our point for us there griffith
>>29773785
Here's a secret.
Asbestos is still the best flame retardant we have. Shit just does not burn.
You got to anyplace that fire cannot absolutely erupt?
Yeah, asbestos fucking everywhere.
The good news is that asbestos poisoning is a physical malady. Like it needs to physically fuck up your lungs by breathing it. So long as it's well secured and away, you're fine.
Also, if you're on a fucking sub, cancer is the least of your worries.
>>29773820
Aight bro were all gay you found out. The navy is actually just one big secret gay sex club.
>>29773843
>The navy is actually just one big secret gay sex club.
No need to confess.
We always knew.
There's a reason why you squids have a saying: "It's not gay underway".
We know, though.
We know
>>29773843
>implying i haven't conquered my existential dread and depression by realizing life is just a meme
>>29773829
is it the gay sex that i should be worried about? seriously asbestos is everywhere? i always see those asbestos commercials that say theyll fuck your shit up if you breathe it
Jesus christ i derailed this entire thread to become about gay sex in the navy.
Canadians truly are the worst posters.
>>29773920
Dont give yourself that much credit, it was a slow thread and its not even derailed.
>>29773920
Shit nigga.
We're the Northern Australians.
Embrace your heritage.
I know I do.
[spoiler]In a civilized society, concealed carry is immoral[/spoiler]
>>29773940
rekt
>>29773880
That's the thing.
Modern society says asbestos is the devil's dandruff.
But in reality, most of it is safely locked away.
Unless you're like a fucking plumber, you'll never see it and never be exposed.
Unless your sub/ship explodes or something.
daily reminder that liking traps is not gay
>>29774011
S Q U I D
Q
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>>29773959
i would be a nuke officer so i guess i shouldnt worry about it
still cancer sounds shitty, i figure the reactors themselves are pretty safe and self contained though.
>>29774051
Look dude, if you're military, get used to getting fucked.
My granpap was a Canadian. Not even involved with Nam.
But his base was chosen for a testing ground for Agent Orange.
Got cancer and died.
Both the US and Canadian government shucked responsibility.
Took years of wives to fight for some kind of compensation.
What I'm getting at is that if you can see how you're fucked, you're getting fucked in 3 ways you don't.
I read online if you join the Australian reserves the full time soldiers act rude to you. Is this true?
>>29774130
>join Reserves
>Regular Forces act rude to you
>>29774130
>being a weekend warrior
>expecting not to be acted rudely to
>>29774130
Happens in the US as well.
Funny thing is that most kids don't understand being a reservist. Admittedly, I thought it was stupid when I was 17 as well, then I got older and learned about people who had full scholarships to universities and good paying jobs who just wanted to serve.
Really, active people being dicks to reservists is due to ignorance and/or jealousy.
>>29774217
No. Reservists get their rank differently in the US than active. When a slot opens up they just move up the line, there is no TIG or TIS requirement that goes with it. You have LtCols who should be senior captains, and e7s who should be e4s. They also aren't up to regular training standards.
Basically when the reservists actually fucking deploy they're a huge pain in the fucking ass for the active duty people.
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>>29774217
>then I got older and learned about people who had full scholarships to universities and good paying jobs who just wanted to serve
>implying that this is anywhere near a large portion of part-timers
>implying that most part-timers don't wear paper hats in their day jobs while going to college.
k
>>29774098
thats true
but shit man i'd feel bad if i had people working with that shit and i know its godawful 4u
i guess its all part of the military
Meg can I pass usmc boot camp currently in my physical shape?
5'10
200 lbs
26 yrs old
1.5 mile in 12 min
2 pullup max
60 crunches
100 ammo can lifts
I have until august, wtf can I do to get better?
Pic related - its me and the new dog we adopted from an abused home.
>>29774406
my grandmother could run a better 1.5 and she's in the ground
>>29774298
I wouldn't know, I never deployed with reservists.
>When a slot opens up they just move up the line
I'm wondering how true this is, I have heard it a couple times now. I'm commissioning in the ANG and the old xo of my section is retiring this year; I'll still have to wait to hit ten years before getting major, in fact, I have five years of service already yet I'll have to wait the tig to get 1st lt and capt as well.
>>29774424
>>29774406
cute dog tho
>>29774352
Even if it was the case that a dude was working in the service industry I'm sure they are much happier doing their 12+ units in college than I was working 14 hours a day as a tech in the Marine Corps, probably doubly so if they are in a pell grant state like California and are making money while going to a CSU.
Keep chugging that kool-aid, bruh. I'm sure your recruiter is laughing on his way to his next staff selection.
>>29774406
Trust me you're fine. When I went to boot I was a 6 foot, 150 pound kid and I never played sports and didn't run or lift to prepare. I just showed up and winged it and it as hard obviously, and harder than it had to be, but you'll make it if you put effort into it.
>>29774406
You're good. Kids regularly get shipped overweight and not being able to do anything. I'd work on those pull ups though, depending on the length of your mos school you'll be stuck with your boot camp final pft score for a while - you don't want to fall behind your peers when it comes time to pick up lance... it isn't a good feeling.
I'm laughing to myself a bit because I forgot that combat fitness shit is a thing now.
>>29774540
O shi, I didn't notice that you said you're 26. Forget what I said, just try to not blow your acl or a bicep tendon while training.
I had already been around the world a couple times doing stupid crap by age 22 and my knees were already shit. It would be a tragedy if you hurt yourself and got put in bmp because you were trying to compete with the kids.
I'm planning on joining the reserves in the next few months for a part time job while I finish school, after that, I want to join the regular force. Is this a good idea? Is it easy to transition from the reserves to active duty? I'm Canadian by the way.
>>29774643
It's generally pretty easy, yeah. Or at least so I've heard. What trade?
>Need to fucking print, sign, scan, and then e-mail a form to my college before they'll release my transcripts.
Is this the fucking stone age? I'm already paying 15 bucks for the insane amount of effort required to send a .pdf. Is a digital signature honestly not enough? It's not like I'm asking them to hand out my social security number, it's fucking transcripts.
>>29774653
I was probably just going to go with Infantry, maybe armored.
>>29774657
Which school?
My university has a fully online transcript request system, but you have to fucking go in person to get a copy of your diploma for some reason.
I gave mine to my mom since she has a wall with all my siblings shit on it, I just want my own for my office. Shit doesn't make sense.
>>29774669
Oh jesus christ. Never, ever go in to a recruiter not sure of what you want. Look up the trades on the website. I mean all of them, man. Where are you at, anyway?
>>29774424
Your grandmother is quite admirable.
>>29774491
Yea, he was left behind from a family that got evicted. When we took him in he was skin, bone and fleas. His made quite a recovery.
Pic related: it's him being retarded in some high grass in the woods I hike in.
>>29774504
I have no issue with effort, I just worry that I should be alot better fitness wise.
>>29774540
I thank you for the vote of confidence.
I am going reserves as a ground combat radio operator. Basically a fancy way of saying I fix communication equipment and get shot first.
>>29774689
I'm in south Surrey if you mean location.
Just curious, what would happen if I went in not fully sure of what I wanted?
Anyone here been through Marine Infantry Officer Course
>>29774732
No matter what you wanted, or where your aptitudes are, they will steer you towards infantry. That happens just about without fail.
Are you planning on going to school in Vancouver? I don't know much about the reserves out there. I'm an Ontario guy. The thing about reserves is that it's a part time job, so they won't really move you out to someplace if you want to be a reserve weapons tech or something. There's infantry literally everywhere, but I'd look into what other reserves are nearby.
>>29774694
>I am going reserves as a ground combat radio operator.
Lol, an 0621...
FYI: you operate the radio, fixing it is a different mos. That job is actually considered a retard mos, all operator jobs are, even the "advanced" microwave and satcomm courses.
I taught at MCCES for two years, the place where your mos school is, if you have any questions.
>>29774761
I'm currently just finishing up highschool, after that I was planning on learning Electrical or Carpentry, would either of these be relevant to any position in the army?
>>29774806
http://www.forces.ca/en/job/constructionengineeringofficer-42
http://www.forces.ca/en/job/constructiontechnician-61
And so many more. Are you sure you don't want to go reg force? The forces will teach you the trade and then give you a job in it.
http://www.forces.ca/en/jobexplorer/browsejobs-70
Here's the full list.
>>29774876
Like I said the reserves is just a temp thing, I plan to join the full force sometime later, would It be easier to just wait, and join the full force later on?
>>29774906
Do you want to join as an officer or as a regular soldier? Basically, do you want to get a degree or not?
>>29774932
Just a regular soldier.
>>29774949
Then it entirely depends in whether or not you want to stay where you are for now. The army would pay for you to get trained, but would also love to hire someone that already is a carpenter or electrician.
>>29774959
I'd honestly love to get away from home, I've lived in this country and I've barely left BC, I'd love a change of scenery, and to get away from my family for a while.
>>29775017
Look into the careers I linked a bit further up the thread. Look into any of them that interest you. The least you can do is talk to a recruiter after picking 3 trades you're interested in.
>>29774763
Well shit, I think I got sold a shit mos... either that or I'm the repair guy since again, reservist. Still sounds like a trash mos.
What should I have gotten?
>>29774959
Also, one last thing, is infantry I good decision if I really want to, it's always kinda been my dream to be in a combat role.
>>29775178
I'd look at all the other career options. If you end up hating it, it usually takes a year to switch trades. If you really want to be an infantryman after all of that, go for it.
>>29774763
>>29775105
With my scores what would you say a good mos is?
Have degrees in IT, Law Enforcement and Business Administration.
>>29775105
i don't know why but your post gave me deja vu
>>29775105
Field radio operator is definitely an 0621, and is definitely not a repair guy. I know all the jobs that come through MCCES by heart, spent three of my five years there.
Anything in the 5900 field is straight money on the civilian side. Every industry needs technicians, plus you get to play with all sorts of crazy hardware that civilian technicians and engineers will never get to so much as lay eyes on. I was a 5942 and everybody I served with who decided to stay with tech ended up in at least a $30/hr job upon separation that held them over until they finished their undergrads and moved on to bigger things.
At least you're a reservist so you'll be able to advance your life in the next four years, unlike your active friends who are going to be sitting around in places like lejeune jacking off for four years.
As far as your time at MCCES goes the school for your mos has field radio as the bottom tier, the top 10% of grads go to microwave and the top 10% of them go to satcomm. Since it is a retard mos with low score requirements there are a billion of you guys, and since it is a retard mos there are going to be a lot of retards in your school. They keep you guys on lockdown for the entirety of your school so that people won't go out in town and start fights with people.
I guess the silver lining is that in retard jobs that are highly populated the promotions are relatively quick. Unless you're total shit at pt and rifle you should pick up corporal as soon as you're eligible.
Did you actually sign already? I ask because I obviously do not recommend that mos, it will do nothing to help you as a civilian.
>>29775218
I would recommend taking the afoqt and trying to be a 17dx Air Force officer.
The Marine Corps is no bueno for older people like you. Even if you were going in as an officer you'd just be thrown into any random unit regardless of what your degree is in.
I find it completely laughable that you'd even consider being a radio operator with an IT degree. How badly did you screw up your life that this is where you are now? Or are you one of those people who was too scared to join out of high school and are trying to make up for lost time? If the latter is the case then I would highly recommend looking into the air force or navy reserve, or the air guard and getting a commission - being a network ops officer will actually bolster your IT career while being an 0621 will be a waste of time and effort.
>>29774011
I hope you're not in the navy faggot.
>>29775295
I believe I signed at meps, buts that's not a 100% official government owns your ass oath. I believe it's more of a your in depth now sign in. If I'm wrong I'm screwed and my best bet is too try to switch mos.
>>29775336
It's not that I screwed my life up I just wanted to serve. I think my recruiter saw that zeal and funneled me into the core. Using sales techniques and Esprit de corps to hype me up.
I want officer but my pt is hardly decent let alone stand outish, I have no references and my officer packet when I built one was laughable. So seeing no strong solution there I thought the whole green to gold was the way to go (basically enlisted to officer)
I am one of those types who grew up poor, was never encouraged and always put down yet somehow had the smarts to graduate with a 4.0gpa.
>>29775295
>>29775924
As a reservist my job chioce was field radio, amphibious assault, some logistics job or truck driver.
The more I think on this the more assured I am I screwed up. My career has bounced around a bit as I've been directionless. I've always wanted to serve and help people, but now it seems that I'm always doing things for others at the expense of my own chioces. Going with the flow instead of doing my due diligence and standing up for what I want (which now is something I'm unsure of)
Son of a bitch, anon, I know you didn't intend for this reaction and just wanted to help. But fuck me if this isn't some surprise existential cluster fuck that is making me unsure about everything.
At least I get to choose limousines in captcha
>>29775924
I wouldn't feel too bad, you're definitely not the first person to get suckered by the uniform and promises that are actually lies; he got you believing things about your mos that aren't even true after all. And I don't mean to imply that you're locked in now, just that you'd likely have to start over with another recruiter since your guy might get buttblasted over all the work he put in that you'd be invalidating and may not want to work with you anymore.
You're right about Marine OCS and PLC though. You've got to be running a 1st class pft at minimum to be considered as a civilian. Personally, I'd never go back to the Marine Corps. The enlisted promotion system sucks and officers get thrown anywhere - you could be doing something cool like be a controller in a MACS unit or you may end up the xo of a supply shop, it is a total crap shoot.
If you have actual sysadmin or other IT work experience you'd likely be a shoo-in for air force ots though. Non-prior service civilian selection is at like 60% currently since they're trying to grow the officer corps, but as I said you have to have a resume that isn't just full of volunteer work.
Good luck with the Marine Corps thing. It is going to suck, not because the pt is tough, but because the entire institution is stupid and run by sycophants.
>>29776082
If I was in your shoes and I just wanted to leave asap I would have definitely chosen amphibious assault. That would have likely been much more interesting than messing with radios in a bay. I served 2002-2008 and I never met a radio guy who even deployed on a training thing; my friend I went to high school with was an 0621 and he just sat in Okinawa for four years spending his money on hookers/ bath houses.
Well I figure you've got an undergrad in IT and you're just a reservist. As a radio guy you'll definitely get the prototypical Marine Corps experience because even in the fleet they treat their guys practically like they're in 3rd phase of boot camp every fucking day.
You could just treat it as a fun little romp and move on with your life. Nothing the enlisted Marine Corps can offer could help you with your career anyway since you already have a degree.
>>29776083
I think the worst part about that feeling is that you hear about it all the time and go, not me, never me - I'm too smart, I worked to hard I'll never fall for it... yet he we are.
In all fairness though he played me quite well. I was laughed out of the army office (250 lbs at the time) and he used that anger and frustration to win me over. Later when my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer, he stayed with me in prayer for her successful surgery.
Atm Im unsure how much was genuine and whether or not I'm more mad that if he was genuine about it and he pushed my into shit or just played me.
My resume has mostly admin jobs, foreman positions, customer service and sales.
Extra crap is mostly leading veterans affairs projects (getting them care or funding when va stalls them out)
Habitat for humanity (project lead on building homes for homeless vets)
Jrotc and rotc
How easy is it to jump from usmc to usaf when in? Would I be able to go in reservist, do plc into officer and switch branches or is that a clogged pipe dream?
>>29776209
I have no idea how going officer to officer in a different branch goes. I have never heard of that even happening so I don't know if it is possible to resign your commission and get another one elsewhere.
You really have to be the best of the best these days to get into PLC. If you aren't a high 1st class pft around 280 and shooting a high expert on the rifle then you aren't going to be looked at, it would be much easier for you to go straight air force officer in my opinion.
Don't feel bad about the recruiter. It was likely more your desire to feel special that he tapped into than your wife's health issues. I think people who don't join out of high school all have that inner child who wants to be a war hero like in the movies and Marine recruiters especially know how to play to that... probably more so these days now that there are so many veterans around.
I'm actually two hours away from 29 Palms. I sometimes go that route on my way to Vegas. I'll shed a tear for you in about four months when you're over there sitting in ball soup.
>>29772923
>Shit GPA but good test scores means you have shit study habits and/or are lazy
This is me
Couldn't finish an AA degree because I couldn't find any interest in any of it, and definitely too lazy to do homework every night.
Did pretty good on tests though
>>29776323
I think you're right, the dream to be one of a kind. To stand out and be the hero for my son.
Don't know if I can even back out at this point and not be blacklisted. Already around the cutoff point for age.
Not only that, and this might be romanticized naive - but I'd feel dickish if I said "screw you guys I'm going home". Even though they gave me a bum deal I gave them my word - and I feel that has to count for something if nothing else.
If anything I'll try to channel this feeling of betrayal into bettering myself. At least my physical health will improve
>>29776400
You have three years, don't worry about the cut off.
I wouldn't call it betrayal. The guy probably figured you were older enough to do your own due diligence and since you signed he thought that job was what you wanted.
I'm sure he has a retard mos as well and maybe he has never deployed so to him being a radio guy sounds exciting. The thing is that for most retard jobs like motor t and radio in the Marine Corps they are a low-end collateral duty, that means the unit assigns someone who already has a job to also do that job.
In air control squadrons there are very few motor t guys because the first thing that everybody does when they get to the unit is they are sent to get humvee and 7 ton licenses. This way the unit saves money by not having "extra" Marines on their TO.
On the bright side, at least you'll be a Marine. The title is really all there is to be proud of since there definitely isn't no decent job training available unless you're a 5900 or 7200.
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