Okay guys. Stupid question.
What would happen if I tried to shoot a 9mm round out of my SW .357 revolver? I know this is a bad idea. But just how bad of an idea is it?
Is there some reason that the Medusa can do it, but not other revolvers?
>>29717828
Look up moon clips.
>>29717828
The Medusa has special chambers and extractors.
9mm will not fit in a spec 357 chamber.
>>29717870
I've got them and my gun is cut for them. I assume there's more to it than that.
9mm wont fit in a .357 cylinder
>>29717915
damn. I was under the impression 9mm was a hair smaller in diameter. Oh well.
>>29717935
It is towards the bullet, but it has a taper like 7.62x39.
This is why MP5 magazines have a slight curve.
>>29717828
It can work in a pinch with moon clips but it is highly not recommended. It will cause permanent damage to your cyclinder over time.
>>29717828
http://www.tkcustom.com/content/machine.asp
>>29717972
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the education
If you found a way and did it, it would be fine unless you used +P+ , no promises there.
k how can .357 is more powerful than .38 if .38>.357 is true
Won't work
>>29718029
Most non military cartridges are named for marketing purposes. Magnum cartridges were named that not for their larger charges but to sell better.
.357 mag is more powerful than .38 special because the case is longer and can accommodate more powder while using the same bullets.
>>29718029
How is .357 more powerful than .38, even though dimensionally .38th's of an inch is greater than .357th's of an inch?
There we go champ.
>>29718078
Have you tried using a hammer?
can we all agree that cartridge naming conventions are fucking stupid
If I recall correctly, Ruger used to sell 9mm cylinders for their .357 Magnum Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk convertibles.
>>29718083
It was originally the same length as .38 special. However the case was lengthened as a safety precaution.
>>29718121
Great idea
I'll try it, then post my findings.
>>29718087
The bullets used in .38 Special and the .38 Colt cartridges are .357ths of an inch.
>>29717972
Tapered case bro. For what its worth, I have fired 380 a number of times in my 357 revolver. You have to tip the gun back after each shot and cant point the barrel down but it works.
>>29718138
kek more space for me to test dangerously overpressure loads.
>>29718138
But why not just call it .38 magnum? And what happened to the .023's of an inch from the diameter?
>>29717972
what is the advantage of a tapered casing? Presumably they are very slightly more difficult to manufacture, so I imagine there must be some advantage... Does it have to do with feeding in auto-loading guns? Or does it have something to do with increasing the case volume in relation to the bullet diameter?
>>29718150
I'm retarded, thanks
>>29718146
hammer might have too much surface area to accurately tap it into the cylinder, use a metal punch in the center of the cartridge and tap it in with the hammer
>>29718166
None of the above its a holdover from the cartridge design being over 100 years old. There is a 9mm auto which is a non tapered 9x19 but it never became popular enough.
>>29718138
Yeah. The original cartridges were known as the 38/44 Special (Elmer Keith's own development and name for it). Problem was, the hotter load wasn't safe to use in anything but Smith and Wesson's large frame .38s.
>>29718165
Originally a heeled bullet
>>29718138
357 magnum was always the longer length. The cartridge you're thinking of was the .38-44.
>>29718166
reliability feeding into the chamber, duh. why do you think penises are naturally tapered to the end?
>>29718202
>why do you think penises are naturally tapered to the end?
uhhhhhhhhhh, are you sure? My dick aint a carrot, it's a fucking eggplant.
>>29718166
Reliability,
It makes extraction easier.
Tapered casings also naturally line up evenly in a curved magazine. The AK's magazine design plays a large part in its reliability.
>>29718232
>not having a mushroom shaped dick
>>29718165
44 magnums are .429"
most 32 calibers are .312"
460 magnum is .452"
300 blackout is .308"
30 carbine is .308"
460 rowland is .451"
.454 casull is .452"
and the list goes on...
WHY???
Okay guys. Stupid question.
What would happen if I tried to shoot a .303 British round out of my .455 Webley revolver? I know this is a bad idea. But just how bad of an idea is it?
>>29718307
also why the fuck don't they just use nice round numbers when possible?
does the extra .001" really matter?
>>29718307
Differences in measuring diameter... Land-land or groove-groove
>>29718365
>>29718365
do it anon
>>29718374
What the fuck
>>29718121
>>29718365
>>29718374
Do it faggot
>>29718365
There's really only one way to find out.
Do it for science!
Firing .380 out of a 9mm will just cause it to not cycle all the way and FTE, right?
>>29718253
>Tapered casings line up evenly in a curved magazine
Magazines are curved because of cartridge taper, not the other way around.
>>29718549
No, there's at least two distinct benefits to the design.
Straight wall cartridges have issues where the rounds can offeset laterally, the taper helps mitigates this.
>>29717828
Anyone know a place where you can look up the tolerances for a gun?
I've got an old army issue Colt Commando .38 special and I'd like to know what sort of ammo it can handle.
>>29718673
I'd only load it with standard pressure .38 special. They deliberately download it, so it won't blow up old weapons. Old .38 specs where much closer to modern +p.
Don't wear out a nice old wheel gun, they don't make them liket that anymore. Just buy a j-frame.
>>29718673
call up Colt and ask them?
my bet is you won't want anything more than standard pressure .38 special
>>29717828
>What would happen if I tried to shoot a 9mm round out of my SW .357 revolver?
You would be dumb for not owning an MR73
>>29718735
The guns are snowflakes in their own right.
9mm cylinders for them are snowflakes among snowflakes.
>>29718720
>They deliberately download it, so it won't blow up old weapons. Old .38 specs where much closer to modern +p.
Yeah, that's what I've heard, which is why I was curious.
>I'd only load it with standard pressure .38 special.
For safeties sake that's what I've been doing. I just figured it would be nice to know exactly what it could handle.
>>29718729
>call up Colt and ask them?
Hmmm, not a bad idea. I've got a Colt M1909 Army in .45 Colt (My Great Grandfather's side arm in WWI) which I've been curious about as well. As with the .38, I don't use anything too hot in it.
The barrel of a .357 is the right size (9mm) but the chamber is not. .38/357 have a straight case with a 9.5mm outer diameter. 9mm Parabellum has a 9.5mm case mouth and a 9.9mm base.
If you want to you can have a cylinder made that chambers 9mm and just drop it into your revolver. This mostly just works for fixed cylinder revolvers, since swing out's cylinders are tricky to remove. With the exception of the FN barracuda and the Mr73.
>>29718127
yes
>>29718783
Yeah, .38 +p would almost certainly work fine, since the gun was designed for approximately that. But it's just gonna accelerate wear, and possibly break parts that are a bitch to replace.
>>29718127
The problem is there are too many separate conventions, and half of them are consumer driven meme names.
>>29718789
>swing out's cylinders are tricky to remove.
>exception of the Mr73
you might be thinking of Korth
the MR 73 cylinder and crane are held in by a screw, same as S&W wheelguns.
