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Still waiting for my godamn board results edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
First for the Air Force, the people who are ACTUALLY first to fight.
Unlike the meme master above me, I'm unironically considering enlisting, and more specifically the Air Force
Which branch has the most useful post-military MOS?
Scored an 85 on ASVAB a while back, testing top 1% for mechanical comprehension and all.
>>29612172
i scored 164 on the asvab, were you even trying?
>>29612172
How pathetic is your life that you have to convince yourself that people actually sit here for days pretending to consider enlisting in the military in order to make yourself feel better?
>>29612180
Well I took it 1 month ago, and the way it was explained to me was that meant I tested better than 85% of those who took it. Can't tell if you're serious or not
>>29612212
The fuck you trying to say m8?
Who's pretending to do what?
>>29612253
>can't tell if you're serious or not
>>29612172
>Which branch has the most useful post-military MOS?
Define "useful". The best MOS for after service is one that you enjoy enough to make a civilian career out of, and one that actually has good civilian prospects.
>>29612271
So....?
>come here for information and advice
>get met with some top tier faggotry
Ok.
>>29612278
I guess I outta elaborate. I like to work with my hands, and want to own a business sometime soon in my life.
Problem is, and I know this may sound ignorant, but I don't see working with my hands getting me very far in life.
>>29612304
well if you want to do aircraft maintenance for the air force I can guarantee you will be working with your hands, and hate your life at the same time.
>>29612253
>dense as fuck
>arrogance
>pride in score on test designed for children
Wew, lad. You're definitely enlisted military material.
Try not to cry when you leave home for the first time in your life.
>>29612304
If you want to be an entrepreneur, MOS doesn't really matter. Learn to network, save money, then use your GI Bill to get your MBA. Alterantively, consider ROTC, being a manager as an officer is going to better equip you to own and manage a business than any particular enlisted field.
>>29612334
I'm not too sure. I did some A&P courses in HS and they were okay, but I don't know if that's what I'd want to do.
>>29612349
You are proving to be super useful. Thanks.
>>29612355
That's interesting. Now, would it make more sense to get some sort of degree prior to enlistment?
Would that open up more MOS's?
Sorry if these are dumbass questions, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to bother going to a recruiter, I'd rather try to get info from people who don't have some obligation to make the military seem perfect
>>29612413
Nobody wants to do it, that's why it's given to anyone with an open contract.
>>29612473
Then it doesn't sound like something smart to do.
If you know, what makes it so bad ?
>>29612413
>wants useful skills
>wants to work with his hands
Go to a Navy recruiter tomorrow and tell them you want a Nuke contract and you won't take anything else.
You'll get great skills, prestige, and a fat bonus. Especially if you volunteer for submarines.
>>29612413
Getting your degree means you could commission as an officer. If that is your plan, do yourself a favor and do some flavor of ROTC.
>>29612499
There's jobs with Lockheed and the other contractors if you stay in a while afterwards, but the hours suck, no recognition for what you do, have fun working in the elements whether it's -14 or 120 out. Also just all the extra stupid air force shit you have to do along with it all. But it could be worse. You can be military police/SecFo
>>29612413
>You are proving to be super useful. Thanks.
The best advice I can give you is that you should go to reddit if you want real advice. Shitposting is actually punished there, people who make shit up get banned from the military subs.
As a kid you won't know whether someone here is making up shit and you will get tons of bad advice. I've never seen you in /meg/ but if you hang around you will find that 3/4 of each thread is two guys arguing back and forth about which one is a liar.
Reddit has better porn, amateur porn and advice. The only reason anyone ever comes to 4chan anymore is to shitpost.
>>29612253
>Can't tell if you're serious or not
You realize it's a percentile score so you can't make over 99% right, top kek.
Also I got 98 on ASVAB and didn't go to highschool.
Is 91F a decent MOS? I just want to enlist for the post 9/11 gi bill so it can fund my last two years of uni and masters.
I don't really care about employable skills. All I want is a job that isn't too boring and won't destroy my body and will leave me with some time to myself to read or maybe knock out a gen ed class or too. If it makes any difference, I got a 96 on the ASVAB.
>>29612545
Good luck getting a job at Lockheed as a mechanic.
I live ten minutes from their main development plant in socal and you have to know someone to get in, the whole place is extremely incestuous. When they do need low-skill workers like that they hire them for a year then lay them off, that is how the entire industry works - it is all based off of whichever company currently has the fattest dod contract.
>>29612592
I don't see where the kid claimed he got over 99.
>>29612632
>i scored 164 on the asvab, were you even trying?
>>29612180
>>29612635
He was joking you autist
>>29612600
Choose something in electronics maintenance.
If you're not a fucking moron, once you learn the system you work on, within six months to a year, you can just go on mental autopilot for the rest of your enlistment. Being a tech is easy as fuck.
>>29612643
Plus, that wasn't even the same kid.
>>29612643
I know that, I was pointing out that the tripfag said he couldn't tell if it was serious.
>>29612622
I would rather hang myself from the prop of a 130 than continue to work on aircraft after I'm out M8.
>>29612667
I'm glad you're shooting for something higher.
I see a lot of people where I live who are completely content with barely making $40k and having to look for a new job every fourteen months or so.
>>29612644
I'll look into those fields, thanks!
>>29612592
That would be why I said I couldn't tell is he was fucking with me. I don't lurk here much
>>29612575
>>29612545
>>29612544
>>29612509
Thanks for info guys
Got MEPS in a few days. Doctors always make me nervous, which increases my blood pressure and stressing over this is likely increasing it more. Any tips to relax/lower my BP before the big day?
>>29612934
I highly doubt it's going to be a problem unless you're a fatbody anon. My blood pressure was actually a lot higher than normal as well. 120/80 as opposed to 110/60.
>>29613013
This
The doctor just noted it and then asked me why that might be. I said I was just nervous, and she nodded and said it was okay. No problems there.
To any of you other fatties or former fatties who were close to/above the maximum weight when you first spoke with a recruiter, at what weight were they willing to send you to MEPS?
I spoke with a recruiter yesterday about joining the Air Force, and he said that he wasn't willing to send me to MEPS until I was 20 pounds below the maximum weight for my height. Currently I am 5 pounds below maximum. I don't know whether this is standard procedure or not, and I'm considering going to the next over to speak with the recruiter there in hopes of a different response.
>>29614506
He's being a fucking tool, even if ur over its easy to pass the tape test. my recruiter is sending me 1 lb below my max, but I work out a lot, so I'm pretty built, depends on the guy.
>>29614506
When I went to meps, I was 250 lbs and 6' 4". Basically almost 40lbs over the max for my height. However I pass the tape test and my bodyfat is at 20% so I was good to go. Honestly I'd go to a different recruiter if I were you.
>>29614506
I was six pounds over when I met my Navy recruiter. Even though I made tape, he asked me to lose the weight before MEPS, which was six days later.
I starved myself and got down below the max for my height, the guy and MEPS even rounded down for me.
Sorry about the blog post, but TL;DR your recruiter is a shitbird. Talk to a different AF recruiter or go see what other branches can offer you.
>>29612509
Koveting
Every
Kackle
>>29612100
A few questions about the military lifestyle (especially the Marine Corps) so I can prepare for and adjust to it. What does an average working day look like for you, for both combat arms and support personnel? What do you do during the day, from wake-up to bedtime?
When is reveille? I assume 5:00?
When do you PT and for how long and doing what?
When is morning formation?
When do you eat breakfast?
How long should it take you to shower?
When do you start "work", if your MOS is not in combat arms? What do you do if you're in combat arms?
When do you eat lunch?
When do you finish work?
When do you eat evening chow?
When do you work out or go to the gym?
When do you go to bed?
How much "free time" do you have before going to bed?
Tell me about anything else in your weekly schedule or any other changes I might have to adjust to from civvie to military life. For example stuff like having to salute for "To the colors" every day, field days (is that on Thursday or Friday?), 24-hour staff duty, and so on. Many thanks.
>>29612172
>Which branch has the most useful post-military MOS?
Why do people like this even join the military? Why not join because it's something you want to do that you don't get to do in everyday boring desk jobs, like blow shit up, fuck shit up, jump out of helicopters and sleep in the woods?
>>29614724
Jesus Christ dude.
I was in Marine Corps Infantry, I'll answer based on that experience.
>When is reveille? I assume 5:00?
There is none. You just show up to morning formation like an adult.
>When do you PT and for how long and doing what?
We usually did 0400 squad sized PT, either a death run or some type of competition style ground fighting. The early time is due to the need to shower, shave, get dressed, and get breakfast before morning formation each day. We went to the gym on our own during evening off time.
>When is morning formation?
Was typically something like 0600 or 0700. Mostly just depended on other factors.
>When do you eat breakfast?
You decide, like an adult. Eat after morning PT if you want. Or after morning formation. Who cares.
>How long should it take you to shower?
Maaaaannnn I know it's the military but this stuff is really up to each adult. The military is NOT like that.
>When do you start "work", if your MOS is not in combat arms? What do you do if you're in combat arms?
We gave classes to new guys each day on standard grunt knowledge, practiced grunt tactics, cleaned weapons at the armory, and at least once a month did a training operation in the field. Then a pre-deployment training regiment begins which is nearly non-stop training for about 3mo.
>When do you eat lunch?
This isn't controlled by your unit. You eat lunch during some break around lunch time. Most people around the base eat lunch sometime around lunch time.
>When do you finish work?
When evening accountability formation has been completed.
>When do you eat evening chow?
See above answers. Basically, whenever the hell you feel like it.
>When do you work out or go to the gym?
See above, in my units we mostly hit the gym on our own free time during the evening. A lot of guys go during lunch.
>When do you go to bed?
Ha at 0300, very drunk. See above "Morning PT"
>How much "free time" do you have before going to bed?
Pffft too much
>>29614751
Are you serious? Holy shit the military sounds awesome.
>Ha at 0300, very drunk. See above "Morning PT"
Holy shit how did you even manage all that on 1 hour of sleep?
My concern is I am a bit older, 28 now, and I'm finding it hard to wake up and function without 8 hours of sleep, especially after physical work. Can't pull all-nighters like I used to in my early 20s, I guess that's why the enlistment age cutoff. Thanks a lot for the tips though.
>When evening accountability formation has been completed.
What is that and what time is it?
What's the length of your typical working day then?
>Then a pre-deployment training regiment begins which is nearly non-stop training for about 3mo.
So you train all day with weapons and on infantry tactics? Sounds fucking awesome.
>We usually did 0400 squad sized PT, either a death run
What's a death run? How long is it and in what time do you complete it? What's the length of the PT session?
Is your chow hall open 24/7 or something then?
What about during basic, I guess all that stuff is more regimented? Like making you sleep at 2100, wake up at 0500 or something?
>Pffft too much
Are you serious? Holy shit.
>cleaned weapons at the armory
Your own or weapons in general?
P.S. Thank you for your service. I mean that unironically.
I want to enlist in the Air Force and be a TACP man. I took an ASVAB once and got a 90-something, I'll have to retake it but I'm positive I can do that again. I can hit all the physical reqs right now, but I could stand to do more push-ups. What does anyone else know about it? Oh and I have some college credits
>>29614791
>how do you even manage that
>>29615093
I don't get it.
>>29615346
it's a straw
to suck it up boot
don't tell me you've lived such a soft life that you've never had to go to real breaking rocks man work after an hour of sleep while drunk WITH a hangover.
>>29614791
If you're 28 now better hop on that train quick. You already need an age waiver to enlist.
>>29615378
>don't tell me you've lived such a soft life that you've never had to go to real breaking rocks man work after an hour of sleep while drunk WITH a hangover.
Yup, that's me. I never had to do a physical job before, not even dishwashing. I've always worked in IT and software development. It doesn't mean I'm unfit though; I lift, kickbox and recently I've been focusing on meeting and exceeding the PFT maximum scores. Although I'm not close to a max score I'm way above the IST requirements (e.g. able to perform 11 dead-hang pullups, run 3 miles in 21 minutes). But I also don't like getting wasted, drinking alcohol in general or staying up late. Just seems pointless and not fun to me, and on top of that I can't handle waking up on 2 hours of sleep for a working day. Even if I sleep less than 8 hours I have to nap in the day to make it up. 24-hour duty is going to be a bitch.
>>29615563
I'm aware, which is why I am hurrying up and I might also consider enlisting in the Army instead, but a similar MOS.
>>29614730
Because the desk job route in the military is a great way to stable middle class living. Better than going straight to college in many cases.
>>29614608
Same here - 6' 4" and 239 with the same body fat.
I have never heard of a recruiter actually testing body fat. I assume that if you look fat then they won't be willing to work with you.
>>29615617
Sounds like you should just join the military and do a computer job. You will fit in better.
>>29614791
Infantry don't have real jobs. Even back when I was in from 2001-2008 I always saw them "getting off work" around 1 pm to go play video games and get their DUIs.
Hate to say it but the manchild jobs basically just laze around all day. Expect 10 hour work days in a mission critical mos.
>>29616339
Yeah they did the bodyfat test because they had to try and convince the people at meps that they weren't retarded and sending someone obese
>>29614730
Ever stop to think that the "something you want" for some people would be a useful job after seps, you silly sperg?
>>29616344
Why? I don't want anything to do with computers for a while.
I'm an EMT and I'm thinking about becoming a medic. I'll work wherever they put me, but I'm concerned that if I end up working back at the base I'll not be a real member of the military. If I do end up not being a field medic, I've decided not to put a sticker on my car, or flash a veteran's card for discounts or special treatment, simply because I think it would be a lie to say I was a soldier when I'm basically just a surgeon's assistant. How are medics usually perceived by most military personnel?
>>29618258
bump for answer as a 68W DEP-er
>>29618258
Kek.
You realize that 80% of the military is not "real military" by those standards, rugby l right?
i asked that dumb recruiter thread but I'll ask here because its more relevant
i need 2 waivers, is that too many? are you only allowed to join if you have 1 or no waivers?
if i have a felony expunged, is there any way they could see that? my recruiter asked if i've ever been charged with a felony (i have, but i said no because my lawyer said that since its expunged,i can legally say no if ever asked). but then the next question was do you have any sealed or expunged charges that might not show up on a normal background check? wtf, i thought i didn't have to disclose this? if i can just say no, then i'd only need one waiver
>>29618374
>rugby
Autocorrect.
Anyways, most military personnel don't give a fuck where you work as a medic. I'm not sure what's more retarded, the opinion of any PV2 infantrymen that might care, or the fact that you give a shit about said opinion.
>>29618415
Hahaha, thanks for setting it straight. I'm not very well acquainted with military "culture" (if that's even the word, probably not), as you can probably tell, but that's a good way to think about it.
>>29618258
Nobody cares.
The only people who play the pogs vs infantry and service vs service games are boot as fuck kids who haven't done anything so they need to use their assigned mos to feel superior to others... and kids who have never served on 4chan think this is how things are in the military and try to parrot stuff they have read on terminal lance and such on /k/.
should i call my recruiter to see if he has my board results? i already texted him a few minutes ago but fuck i just want to know
Considering enlisting in the Muhreens, anyone have any experience with drone pilot? Promotion speed, opportunities for deployments, actual duties I'd be doing, etc
Just took a couple quick practice ASTB tests, and out of 23 questions in each of the three sections (I'm only doing OAR) I got 3 wrong in mechanical and none wrong in either of the other sections. It's a comparative test, right? Any idea how competitive that makes me?
>>29612172
>Which branch has the most useful post-military MOS?
Navy
>>29619130
those books and practice tests are way harder than the real thing, you'll do fine
>>29619422
>13Fs grandfather
Can somebody fill me in on what is required for a top secret and a secret security clearance?
Im thinking of going into some sort of intel field, but I lied on some of the paperwork I already filled out, saying I was unemployed for a perioid of time when really I had a job for 3 months then quit.
Everything else is truthful, but I struggled to find 3 references that Had known me for 7+ years
>>29619857
Probably fine. If it comes up again, just mention "Oh yeah, I did have a shitty job for a while" with honest answers to followups. Nobody gets their history 100% correct. It's fucking hard to remember your whole life story.
The big things that people get slammed for on TS are having messed up financials. Stuff like massive, uncontrollable debt. (You can have debt, it's not uncommon, but you need to show its under control and you have an endgame to pay it off.)
Debt or lying about having a felony (fucking why apply for a TS with a felony???) is the only thing I've ever seen people get rejected for personally.
>>29619895
Also if you fail the polygraph for drug use they will DQ you, my best friend was going to be a crypto guy, but the lie detector caught him BSing that he had "never smoked weed" and he got escorted out of MEPS and had to do 3 years at Leavenworth :/
>>29619935
lies
>>29619935
>trying to fool the lie detector at MEPS
sorry, but your friend is a retard who deserved what he got, just be honest with them and tell the truth in the first place and maybe they will forgive you,
>>29619999
>>29620037
Guy with TS here. Never got polygraphed. I didn't even know the military still used them until recently for certain jobs still. In any case, I highly doubt they are kept at MEPs.
But yeah, just don't lie. Something stupid like smoking weed "a few times" isn't that bad, and hiding it from investigators is way worse. The whole point of investigations is to see if you "have something to hide" which makes you a security liability. If you don't hide it, it's not leverage.
>>29620078
>just don't lie.
> hiding it from investigators is way worse.
>MEPS
nice meme
>>29620098
You know TS investigations are handled by different people than general MEPs stuff, yeah? Like, actual investigators.
Like I said, I'm about 99% sure no lie detector happens at MEPs, but hell, maybe the investigation agency has one squirreled away for Crytofags.
>>29620215
you're right. if you're getting a poly its before a specific job or posting, not before enlistment. office of personnel management takes care of all investigations and polygraphs (if you need one)
>>29620078
Only certain MOS's get polygraphed. If you smoked weed a couple times it isn't even worth mentioning.
>>29619407
Thanks for the reassurance. Mechanical is my worst section, but I'm nervous because that seems like the only one that's actually important.
>>29614724
[1/2]
Experiences differ so I will answer about my experiences
>When is reveille? I assume 5:00?
No reveille outside of the field. In garrison they expect you to show up to PT like an adult.
>When do you PT and for how long and doing what?
I would PT at 0600. Our PT and morning Formation was one in the same. It depended on the day for what we did as PT. Sometimes it was skate city and we would go to the gym for a while, other times it was deathruns with flaks on.
>When is morning formation
It was the same as PT formation, 0600
>When do you eat breakfast
They served breakfast from 0600 to 0800, but the chow hall right next to my barracks served wraps in between chow tiems so PT or work obligations made me miss actual chow hours and forced me to get a wrap
>How long should it take you to shower?
Depends on how little time you have. I could spend my sweet ass time, or shit shower and shave in 15 minutes depending on time
>>29620973
Thanks, awaiting 2
For you guys that actually joined, what method did you use to get your push ups higher? I'm wondering if it's better to do pushup sets back to back or to spread them through the day.
>>29619935
>Cryptobro got polygraphed
Yeah, that part passes the sniff test. If you work with a three letter agency like Cryptobros often do, you get a limited polygraph.
>It happened at MEPS...
Wait, what? Anon, no..
>It asked about weed
Anon, that isn't how any of this works, a CI poly isn't going to...
>Got arrested
Anon, stahp, the bullshit is too intense now.
>Sent to Leavenworth
but you said crypto and Leavenworth is army and...pls no, anon, pls
>>29621198
>you fell for it
>>29621141
Just do a lot of pushups, and eat big dont over complicate this
The difference in training methods is really not THAT important
>>29620078
So tell my recruiter I smoked weed twice?
Perhaps more of a /fit/ question, but still relevant to the thread:
I've been cutting fairly hard for the last few months in order to join the military. Down 40 lbs. so far, with about another 15 to go.
Now, during this whole period I haven't been exercising much, since I've heard that it's very difficult to gain muscle while cutting hard, but now that I'm getting close to my end goal I'm starting to think about actually getting in shape.
Should I cut the rest of the weight first, or start exercising now?
>>29621840
You should've been exercising the whole time senpai
>>29621840
>Cutting
>Not exercising
Nigga, that is called "being on a diet". You should have been exercising this whole time.
>>29619895
If I had a voluntary psychiatric hospitalization at age 19 because my mom made me go and was released in under 24 hours, how easy is that to waive, assuming I've had no mental health issues in the two years since? Will that disqualify me from TS clearance or any specific MOS? I'd like to do 89D or 12B if possible.
I've tried googling but the most recent information I can find is from 2013 so I'm not sure, but the procedure then may or may not rule me out. The hospitalization was paid for by the state though, and I still owe for the ambulance ride so it will definitely show up with even a cursory search.
>>29621840
You exercise while cutting to maintain muscle, not simply to add more. You've been losing muscle and fat as opposed to just fat.
Start exercising ASAP, ss+gomad
>>29621840
>>29622408
Also remember 5 scoops a day CMON
Which Army MOS has the most weeaboo faggots?
>>29622433
35T
>>29620329
Look at you, parroting the shit you've read.
>>29623410
look at you, parroting what others say to those who parrot others parroting
>>29614791
hey man I'm back. Again I'll just answer from my experiences in Marine Corps Infantry.
>Are you serious?
Yes but it's not all awesome.
>Holy shit how did you even manage all that on 1 hour of sleep?
See above, during the second year you will begin making a list of reasons not to stay in the military. The list will number the thousands so I won't bother going into it here.
>What is evening accountability formation and what time is it? What is typical work day length?
Evening accountability formation is everyone getting into formation, the Platoon Sgt counts heads, then reports to superiors that everyone is present. The time of this formation has typically been around 6pm but is sometimes much earlier of much, much later.
>What's a death run? How long is it and in what time do you complete it?
A death run almost universally means "A high tempo run usually involving great difficulty used to push current limits of strongest runners in the group and raise the limits of the weakest runners in the group." Hills are usually involved in death runs. The ones I led were anywhere from 20min to 50min long. Everyone in my squad had to stay in a group. We just run sprints back and forth until the slower guys catch back up, then we immediately carry on.
>Is your chow hall open 24/7 or something then?
Some are, some aren't, all chow halls have a specific 2hr window to get food 3 times a day.
>What about during basic, I guess all that stuff is more regimented?
Your questions are all literally oriented towards Basic Training. If I were you I'd just prepare for that. The Fleet Marine Force is a different animal altogether, which is why some of this info might be surprising.
>Cleaned at armory your own weapons or weapons in general?
Issued weapons. This is classically the time to give classes to the new guys on heavy weapons capabilities, nomenclature, operation, and perform blindfolded "disassemble/reassemble" competitions, since the weapon is right there.
>>29623410
You're legit retarded if you actually bring up the one time you smoked a joint back in high school at meps. No one will ever fucking know
Leaving for BMQ tomorrow. It's kind of pathetic how much preparation I did, but hopefully this will fix my lack of motivation issue. Apparently 15% don't finish, and I refuse to let myself be shittier than 85% of people.
>>29623625
what about the polygraph on the offchance that your MOS has you take one?
>>29619857
They will definitely find your job from your tax records. I had a job that I worked for 4 days that came up in my interview.
>>29623894
I'm CLA and I keep hearing we don't get polyd, and for those who DO get polyd, I heard they don't give a shit about drug use, they ask you about your trustworthiness because that's what matters.
>>29623894
There's only like a handful of intelligence jobs where it's even a possibility. Not even nuke does it.
>>29624387
>>29624367
ok, thanks guys, someone told me that it was basically required for top secret
>>29624449
maybe if you work at the pentagon
Reposting from another thread.
http://youtu.be/hOliF5FoAA8
Any of you fucks wanna go be SOF, this is the man to draw inspiration and drive from. Look how fucking focused and precise he is.
Was diagnosed with Aspergers when I was under 10, have seen psychiatrist for basically all my life.
Psychiatrist believes my diagnosis is no longer valid and I have a letter stating so.
Wat do.
>>29624871
enlist, explain situation and give them the paperwork
>>29624871
Join or don't join. No one gives a fuck. If you show up and start acting like a fucking retard, you'll get your ass kicked. I promise. I don't want some mentally unstable person covering my back.
If we're in the middle of combat and you start fucking up and putting me into danger, I shoot your ass myself.
>>29624871
>Psychiatrist believes my diagnosis is no longer valid and I have a letter stating so.
Golden Ticket.
Will I be mocked and/or raped for being a 5'6 beaner manlet in the navy, I'm tired of being bullied
>>29625305
Become mean and act like you're ready to fight at the drop of a hat. No one will fuck with you.
You know what is a thousand percent better? Being a normal person and getting along with everyone. Friendships are forged here. They last for life. If people dish shit at you, dish more back at them and never back off. You'll earn respect.
>>29625305
Join the marines you'll fit right in
>>29625336
Funny thing is my older cousin was in marines from 01-05, I guess around this time is when shit was hittin the fan, hes shorter than me and has a cute wife and kids now, fuck man time flies
>>29621840
>I've heard that it's very difficult to gain muscle while cutting hard
It's hard only if you're a skeleton with no extra fat reserves for energy. You should have been exercising to preserve the muscle you do have.
>>29623594
>Your questions are all literally oriented towards Basic Training. If I were you I'd just prepare for that. The Fleet Marine Force is a different animal altogether, which is why some of this info might be surprising.
Actually they weren't, I was wondering about life on base regarding chow, PT and so on.
>>29624929
>combat
>getting your ass kicked
Kek. None of this happens anymore, anon.
Just had my defence force interview today.
Got declined, unfortunatly, as the warrant officer who did the interview was "worried about my lack of volunteer experience".
Only feedback I got from the case manager was to spend a year in the SES and then come back and try again.
Is this common? I have the creeping suspicion that theres some other shady reason and ill just get a different excuse next year, any thoughts?
Aussie btw, if it matters
>>29626612
>you have to volunteer to give your life for your jew government
wtf
>>29626643
>trade years of your life for money
You know, like every other job.
>>29626784
>implying there are any real jobs that don't support the ruling class
Have fun beating off in your shack and selling hand carved dildos while evading taxes, anon.
Do you need a good sense of smell to be an infantryman? I doubt I could smell that almond scent that C4 is supposed to have, and I can only smell a gas leak once it's pretty full in the room. But I can do gasoline and BO and shit. How often does it come up in training?
>>29625305
It's the military, everyone jokes about everyone else, usually just in a joking manner. Don't be a faggot who lets jokes get under their skin.
>>29627312
If I had to guess probably never
How different is officer life within each of the US military branches (yes, I do include the Coast Guard). I know they get paid the same but is there any real difference between them?
Pros and cons for each?
>>29625305
>tired of being bullied
Everyone in the military rips on everyone else over everything.
Height, weight, gender, ethnicity/race, hygiene, sexual proclivities, religion, baldness, skin conditions, speech impediments, drug use.
It's only bullying if you let it be bullying.
If you take it and dish it out with equal measure, then you'll be respected and liked by your fellow sailors.
Also, the armed forces tend to skew short for some reason.
>>29627978
>for some reason
>>29627795
>>29627891
I meant to say is there any difference in working conditions and day-to-day life?
>recruiter tells me no notice yet for my board
>even though the ocs forum says they already met
fuck fuck fuck
im just gonna switch to aviator or NFOwhats a good navy plane to fly? or to NFO-iate?
I'm a solitary guy by nature, I have trouble relating to people even if I try. Will I get singled out and ostracized in the military? Is it a death sentence if I am?
>>29627312
Almond scent is for cyanide, which is more of a piece of trivia than a useful thing. C4 doesn't really smell like anything, and even if it had a distinct scent, it's not exactly tactically useful.
>>29628080
It kinda depends on what you were to end up doing. But honestly the military is all about working as a group so it's hard to be solitary
For all of you future boots here, dont believe your fucking recruiter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m93Ct7QPCMg
Kind of a different question, but I was wondering, what's the best way to save money in the Navy? Do any of you have experience using any military savings plan?
Going to Meps tomarrow, feeling nervous for some reason
>>29628204
just dont get pissed every leave or piss it all away at the strip clubs
if you are really really hurting for cash, just be a fucking moron and marry a woman off of craigslist for that sweet BAH money
>>29628214
prepare for 10 hours of waiting and 1 hour of pissing in a cup, getting asked questions, duckwalking and an old man telling you to spread your cheeks to look at your ass hole
>>29628204
TSP is there and it's an ok plan. The real benefit is that it automatically comes out of your paycheck, so you can basically set it up and forget about it.
The other option is to get USAA (fucking love this bank) and set up an investment account on some slow moving index fund (VTI or VIG as examples) and put money into it every other month or so in big chunks (negates the transaction fee costs somewhat). Don't take the cash out, just let it grow.
Those are primaries. Then maybe set up some long terms stock in established companies like Microsoft. This is more volatile but still pretty reliable. Set your dividends to auto-reinvest for everything.
I did this and am sitting pretty good. My only regret was not doing it sooner.
>>29627312
Never. Be able to get a 30 on your asvab and hang out with a bunch of COD kids who didn't know what they were getting into.
>>29628080
You may experience some discomfort anon. I always score 100% introverted on all of those meyers briggs test. I'm an 11b. Sometimes people annoy the shit out of me. Usually though I just go and read or something if nothing is going on and people just refer to me as "the smart jew"
kek
>>29628307
tfw people thought i was a jew in high school but i'm white and natsoc
>>29628229
>how to save money
>recommends marriage
>>29628348
i dont reccomend it at all unless you piss away the paycheck you're getting every goddamn leave.
Odds are you'd only net an extra grand from that shit anyway, and i'd save that money for the inevitable divorce
So I just got my job in the navy as an aviation AE/AT guy, does anyone know how the clearances are for these jobs and whether these are pretty good jobs when it comes to getting out of the navy?
>>29628280
Yeah I'm going in for at least 6 years so I figured I might as well get on it as soon as possible
>>29628390
Don't know about job prospects after but as far as I'm aware you just need a secret clearance, which is a pain but not as bad as the higher clearances
>>29628409
this Tbh
Depper failed out
amazingly, 13fox actually made it out of basic without going full PVT Pyle on his DI.
>>29628409
I'm in DEP to go nuke. Yeah yeah I know, >nuke
>>29628541
YOU FELL FOR THE RECRUITERS LIES
I'm thinking about joining the Navy and becoming a Naval Officer after I graduate from college this year.
I know officers are not guaranteed a rating and it depends on the individual officer's grades and performance during Officer School. So I'm asking what are some good Officer Ratings to have in the back of mind while testing.
I like the idea of being a submarine officer but I know that it requires being book smart in engineering and nuclear physics and that the school for nuclear sub is mentally tough. Is being in a non-nuclear submarine just as tough or can a Criminal Justice grad survive and make the rating?
Is Surface Warfare Officer any better?
I'm also very interested in amphibious warfare and wanted to know if they are any Naval Officer jobs in being a Gator or should I just be a Marine Officer instead?
>>29628555
I actually wanted to do it, they didn't sell it to me. I asked to speak with a couple current nukes, did some other research and decided I'd go for it. If I hate it oh well
>>29628590
Well there's a huge difference between a Naval Officer and a Marine Officer, and both are tough to get into.
I would have suggested the ROTC route as they get first pick of the MOS's while OCS gets the scraps.
>Criminal Justice
JAG office is two doors down and to the right if you want to make some use of that degree.
i cant answer most of your questions, im not Navy or Marine, although fuck me dead, i definitely wish i was a Marine
>>29628642
Honestly the respect and hot conditions didn't really matter to me because u just wanted to do something important regardless and I lived in Arizona anyway. Plus e3 after basic and e4 after power school seemed nice.
>>29628590
>>29628647
>huge difference between a Naval Officer and a Marine Officer
Can you elaborate on the differences anon?
>JAG office is two doors down and to the right if you want to make some use of that degree.
Thanks anon but I'm not interested in being a lawyer. Would the Coast Guard Officer be a better option to get a better use out of my degree?
>>29628590
Does the navy even have non nuclear subs?
>>29628463
Is secret pretty easy to get? Like I'm mostly worried because I obviously lied about past drug use from like 4 years ago in high school.
>>29628642
>they tried to sucker me
>didn't even have a high school diploma
Whatever you say anon
How much will i hate myself i try to go EOD instead of loadmaster
>>29628724
The thing about it is you have to STICK TO YOUR STORY. If you never got in trouble with the law, never got caught with drugs, then there is literally no way for them to know. They try and scare people over and over again trying to make people crack. Just keep your cool, list only good references on your nasis, and you'll be good. That is unless you actually did get in trouble at some point and failed to report it.
>>29628720
>In the U.S. Navy, all combatant submarines are nuclear-powered.
I can scratch that off the list then
When national guard info gets deployed, do they serve with 11b or marines? Do they get hazed/treated like shit by the non weekend warriors?
>>29628709
The differences are mainly cultural, like how each branch treats 2nd LT's who are straight out of OCS.
The Navy will try to mentor you by being kind and being calm when you fuck up.
The Marines will treat you like a Boot bitch with a mustard stain on your collar, and they will give you an ass chewing that rivals Lucifer himself giving Jesus a facefucking.
Whether you mean the differences in responsibility, depends entirely on what MOS you get.
im just speaking from a dumbshit grunt's perspective
>>29628753
Yeah, to make things worse for EOD parts of your tech training is at Sheppard AFB, I spent six months there and it Fucking sucks, nice ghetto strip club tho. Go for loadmaster or aircrew, you will actually enjoy the military from what they tell me.
>>29628828
Nasty Girls traditionally goes with the 11Broomsticks.
>>29628773
Are you ok anon?
>>29628753
Go load.
I just left the 344th and it was a really cool place, besides the fact youre on lackland. The instructors there are quite cool though. Everyone walks around in flight suits because they are badass. Also live oaks DFAC is really good.
>>29628647
>Naval Officer and a Marine Officer, and both are tough to get into.
Is Army Officer tough to get into as well?
>>29629062
About the same as Marine, depending on what MOS you go for.
The culture is different there as well, like i talked about here>>29628854
i cant really say if it's easier than Marine OCS, as OCS sucks balls across all branches
>>29628590
>>29628647
>>29628854
>>29629122
Is a Marine Corps AAV Officer something I should look into? How competitive is it to get in?
Other than making sure the AAV and crew are ok, coordinating attacks and driving the infantry to locations, what are some of the other responsibilities I'm missing?
you think the navy OR would just let me grab my packet and take it to the AF or marines dude? fuck i just want to leave already
fuck
>>29629314
>Is a Marine Corps AAV Officer something I should look into? How competitive is it to get in?
Im actually pretty surprised you'd want to get into that, especially with the desert wars rolling down.
Judging from what i know of those ROTC kiddies, they'd have no interest in AAV Officer as it's not really a career jump point for them, so if you go the OCS route, it's bound to show up.
OCS in itself is competitive as fuck as you guys are basically dogs fighting for scraps.
highest preforming Marine get's first pick of the scraps at OCS, and most Marines dont want to be water dogs, so it's pretty fucking competitive
> what are some of the other responsibilities I'm missing?
Not getting blown up floating into enemy waters like it's June 6th 1944
>>29614724
bump for more answers to this >>29614724
>>29615617
>I don't like having fun the post
>>29629359
It is in my personal opinion that the Navy sucks more cocks than a whore on Fleet Week in Hawaii.
and im probably not far off.
This is the same here in Aus as well.
All the lazy good for nothing sluts and stoners end up in the Chair Force and Navy, and the eternally blueballed wannabe war hero's end up in Army
kind of bummed we dont have our on Marine Corps, i'd be all over that shit.
failing finding work after my service term is up, im thinking i might immigrate to burgerland, and try to get Citizenship and a green card just so i can wallow in the unwashed masses or retarded chucklefucks that is the Marine Corps
>>29629359
Sone will try to talk you out of it but it shouldn't be a problem. Though you shouldn't try and rush yourself and end up getting some mos you don't want and ending up more miserable.
>>29629440
Why do you think the navy is so bad but the marines of all branches is somehow better?
>>29628771
Thank you, I've already gotten my police record through with them and everything has gone fine with that. I was never caught with drugs so it would only be from references or people they ask about it.
>>29629464
I have a bit of a boner for the Marines and my experiences with our navy personal has been nothing but shit.
Australian Navy are faggots, sluts and dumbfucked officers.
maybe i like the Marines because it seems like they appeal to my dumbshitness.
what about expunged shit, anons?
>>29629553
if it's gone and expunged, then you're in the clear, unless it was for some heinous shit like arson.
no record? dont tell them.
there is a record and you got arrested for it? do tell them, ask for a wavier, cry at home in bed when you get denied because it isnt 2006 anymore
>>29629553
Disclose it
>>29629550
I can see how certain people would be attracted to the marines so no hate there. It's just you do get a pretty good mix of shitbags and good workers no matter what branch you're in, it can vary by mos as well. If you were serious you can try getting your green card and gain citizenship by the end of basic training.
>>29629383
>most Marines dont want to be water dogs, so it's pretty fucking competitive
So the AAV Officer is actually an over looked position?
>Im actually pretty surprised you'd want to get into that
I like the ocean so thats why I focused on Navy, Marines and Coast Guard as my branches.
>>29629614
4 felonies that got expunged, misdemeanor still on record. i don't want to cry, i already need a waiver for dependents
>>29629634
ok
>thanks lawyer who told me that if anyone asks, i don't need to disclose it
>>29618258
Why not be a vastly superior flightmedic?
>do literally nothing all day
>feign being busy when crewchiefs ask for help on aircraft washes
When it's time to fly:
>show up, do fuel sample, wash windows, clear up left
>land and immediately go home
>while the crewchief does postflight
>he goes home hours later if he does it right
If I could guarantee getting the F3 ASI, I'd reclass to medic in a heartbeat. I wanna be a lazy sack of shit so bad.
>>29629666
You can be gay in the military and be fine, they got rid of don't ask don't tell a few years ago.
We have this one gay guy who's boyfriend always visits him at work
>>29629666
They might know. Just don't make a big deal faggoting around and talking about gay pride shit and you'll be fine. Nobody really cares if you're gay or not as long as you aren't obnoxious about it.
People do say "gay" and "faggot" a lot though, at least in my career field.
>>29629666
Dem trips
>Faggots confirmed to be devil worshipers
>>29629666
You'll be fine
if Fruity Rudy can make it, you can too.
>>29629669
>4 felonies and a misdemenor
what the hell did you do?
drive through a drug deal sting operation drunk?
>>29629634
>If you were serious you can try getting your green card and gain citizenship by the end of basic training.
Fuck me, that sounds goddamn awesome.
how will it look that iv'e had one prior deployment to A-stan in the Australian Army?
reckon i'd get shit for being from the land down under?
>>29629122
So what happens if you don't make it in OCS? Are you placed anywhere that particular military branch wants? Are you an enlisted now or because of your college hours, jump a few ranks up?
>>29629819
If you dont make OCS, needs of the military take control (aka, who the fuck knows, man)
>>29629813
I'm honestly not sure about prior service in another country, I think you just wouldn't be able to hold certain positions because you you were. But they'd probably prefer Australian military service to something from like Iraq
>>29629884
>I think you just wouldn't be able to hold certain positions because you you were.
you'd think there would be a rank ceiling of like an e4 or something because i served in the ADF or is it more like i cant work in intelligence and stuff like that?
>>29629884
I've run into a guy who was in the Philippine army I think it was. Somewhere around there at least. I've slept a few times since then.
>>29628590
I'm in a similar position anon, fellow criminal justice major as well.
I'm thinking of either Army or Navy but I actually don't mind getting an officer position unrelated to criminal justice. I'm interested in the jobs that are more of the mechanical side such as:
Armor Officer or Field Artillery Officer for the Army and Surface Warfare for the Navy. How fucked am I if I never took shop and pretty bad in math?
>>29629917
There's no rank cap, at worst you won't be able to get a security clearance.
>>29629960
well, i was looking at just going for the basic 0311 like a fucking retard, seeing as im a rifleman now.
do i need security clearance to be a rifleman?
i've held on to all of my official government doco's that prove my place of residences for the last 15 years if that helps.
anyway, i'll be back a little bit later, i got to wake these fucksticks up for pt.
>>29629953
You don't really get to pick your field as an officer, they throw you wherever they need a slot
>>29630000
>do i need security clearance to be a rifleman?
Nope
>>29630000
You don't need clearance for infantry. You barely need a clearance to be an aircrew member.
>>29629440
>>29629449
i hope theyll let me
i dont care what rating or program i get tossed into i just want to fucking leave and fucking do officer shit already i dont care what branch or if i get to shoot hajjis or not
im just gonna go for aviator since their board is soon fuck it give 10 years to israel
>>29630107
>>29630118
>dont need clearance for Infantry
noice.
no wonder there's so many spics in infantry.
>>29630329
There's only a few mos/rates where you actually need a clearance
>>29630396
it's actually alot different here.
the recruiters here actively try to deter you from joining, whether through fear mongering or "you may be a psycho, and we cant have psycho's with guns" sort of bullshit.
>>29629813
i got double charged for trespass and burglary even though i didn't break into anything or steal anything, that's why the felonies were dropped and expunged, the judge was just a douche
>>29630487
You did the B'nE wrong if you didnt break into anything or steal anything.
was it a field you wandered into and you didnt see the fence or some shit?
>>29630329
Depending on the day of the week people try to pretend like only white people are in the infantry.
>>29630627
shit, even here we've got a few islanders in infantry.
not quite mexicans, but close enough.
>>29630577
at a party at apartment complex, buddy locks his keys into his room, the ceiling is one of those drop ceilings with that particle board tiles. they hoist me up, and i drunkenly fall through, damaging 4 tiles. got his keys, continued partying. woke up the next morning with state troopers at my door. charged 2 counts felony trespass, 2 counts felony theft, 1 count misdemeanor criminal mischief. once the cops and judge knew the whole story, they expunged the felonies but left the misdemeanor because i damaged the tiles. dumb dumb dumb situation that is going to fuck my military chances
>>29630659
That's funny as fuck, mate
just disclose about the whole thing and im pretty sure your recruiter will just give you this look.
Army or Navy officer?
>>29630764
lol thanks, I'll let you know how it goes Monday
>>29631014
Army, Marines or College
anything is better than Navy
>>29631099
Care to explain why anon?
Hey I was considering joining the army to become a tanker. I want to know if tanks and other track vehicles are still used in combat.
>>29629813
>dress blues with out of regs haircut and facial hair
triggered
Should I lie about seeing a therapist for depression?
For some reason I can't find anything online that describes the medical waiver process or what I need to receive one. If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it.
>>29631225
Because memes. He said 'college' when you clearly already went since you're asking about officer positions. Not every anon actually knows what they're talking about here.
what mos is best for gf
>>29631548
You gotta go see a recruiter and get the process started, you can just do it yourself. You'll have to declare the medical conditions, your recruiter will send your shit in, meps will review them and may ask you to bring appropriate records with you on the day you visit. They might just disqualify you automatically depending on the condition, but if not you'll see the doc and he'll determine if you're temporary or permanently medically disqualified. Then is when the waivers come in.
>>29631783
69x: Platoon bike
>>29631099
Anything but the Marine Corps.
Enlisted Marine Corps promotion system is shit. You don't have to know your job at all; if you can pt, shoot and brown nose then you'll get promoted - this leads to a bunch of retards who don't know their jobs being in charge of everything. This leads to a lot very unfunny situations in which gear gets lost or destroyed and people get injured.
As an officer you get thrown somewhere randomly. It doesn't matter what your degree is in, you get placed wherever the Marine Corps needs a 2nd lt.
I say if you want to join the military either go Navy or Air Force. I understand the allure of being 16 and wanting to fight the lava monster, so I don't expect anyone to even consider my advice.
>>29631886
The guy was asking about officer options, why are you talking about enlisted?
For the guy that was wondering about the clearance and polys, please fucking disregard everyone in this fucking thread. I'm at Langley, Virginia and want to help you out. If you book a job that might require something above a secret, and you lie about drug use, ever being before a judge, or committing some type of cyber violation (like running a botnet) you're a retard and wasting everyone's time. They will find out, you will be kicked out, and you will not get shit out of all the months that you put in if you ever get Polyd. Now, the chances of you having to take a polygraph test are low, but on the off chance that you are faced with one, you'll be fucked. It's better not to lie man. If you're still in this thread, AMA.
>>29631961
It is relevant because the sncos who are supposed to be helping you to make good decisions as a junior officer are retards and fallaciously vindictive - dudes who are mad that they didn't get selected for mecep or don't have the aptitude to get even a retarded undergrad.
I'm more interested in hearing about why you think it isn't important to understand what kind of people the enlisted leadership are.
>>29632145
desu I didn't get to the third par in your post, that's why I posted it.
Were you in the Marines? Can you give me advice? Here >>29614724 >>29615617
I'm 28 years old btw
>>29632087
Yeah they're really gonna find out about that time you smoked a j in high school
>>29632172
They won't if you don't tell them. Then you start thinking about it as you walk into the room to get polygraphed, and sweat your balls off when the question is asked. You won't be disqualified from anything for smoking a joint in High School, you'll get kicked the fuck out for lying. Moral character is 10000x more important for determining if you get a clearance, a lot more important than whether or not you smoked weed.
>>29632166
I'm 31 and I did time as a 5942. I posted this >>29616355 yesterday. I am currently waiting the next Air Force officer selection board to get in the ANG because the Marine Corps is retarded and I'd never go back.
Being a Marine tech is pretty much the same as what >>29614751 this anon said except you don't have to do formations, because techs have what the Marine Corps refers to as "mission critical" jobs, in that some important task wouldn't get accomplished if we wasted time doing boot camp/mct-tier shit like holding formations.
Of course there is a "reveille," there is on every base - it is that song the name of which escapes me that plays at 5 am and the flag goes up the pole. It depends on what your job is whether you'll already be awake - if you work in a mission critical job in a VMFA or MACS unit on an airstation you might be on a night shift and be getting off by 5. At the beginning of the war we were doing 12 on and off shifts to train up pilots to deploy, I doubt that happens anymore though.
You pt mon/wed/fri, sometimes a formation run on Friday. If another war starts up then you'll might be put on 12 hour shifts again. Weight standards are of course enforced strictly so you better be working out in your off time. People may take lunches in shifts starting at 1030 through 1400. You really have no time to go to college as a tech due to the work load and having to keep up with your pt and MCIs.
The biggest thing that sucks about being a tech is that you have to be a better Marine than an 03xx in order to be considered their peer. Since tech job fields are so small the promotions are limited and thus the cutting scores are extremely high if they aren't locked out all together. When I was in to pick up corporal the score was 1850-1950 which means you had to shoot high expert, get a high 1st class pft around 280, and have nearly perfect pro/cons in order to get e4 before your fourth year (we sign for five).
>>29632308
(cont.)
Being a tech is rough but it is worth it in my opinion. I locked down a job with Lockheed eight months before eas, which imo turned out to be a mistake since I should have went into federal service to continue getting more retirement points... Lockheed was paying about $26k more though and I was 22 and dumb.
Nearly everyone I served with who wasn't a piece of shit went on to some lucrative careers with Raytheon, Boeing, General Atomics and such; all before they even finished their undergrads.
>>29632308
>>29632337
As a Marine, you recommend being an AAV Officer? Why or why not?
Are the other branches really a better option?
Thank you for your service and taking the time to answer our questions anon.
>>29632443
I wouldn't know what their life is like. The only ground teams I was ever associated with were LAAD battalions.
Like I said, it is not like it is your choice where you go as a Marine officer. You don't have any way to influence syscom's decision in the slightest - you get put wherever they need a 2nd lt.
If you have dreams of living out some call of duty fantasy on the officer side then you have a better chance in the Army from what I understand, maybe one of the other anons can chime in on that.
The only reason to join the Marine Corps is to be able to tell people that you're a Marine. The training quality is bad (tech schools don't adhere to any normalized academic curriculum), the promotion system is terrible and the morale is a crapshoot since people either depressed or mad as fuck once they serve for a while and start to understand how things work.
I know I'm better for it because being part of a shitty organization gives you a good work ethic (if you aren't shitty yourself) and really makes you appreciate good organizations, but I can't in good conscience recommend it to anyone.
>>29632087
>Langley
alright bro
>>29632221
You would be surprised how easy it seems to be to beat a poly.
I know several people at goodfellow who got polyd and only ever took THC edibles once and breezed through the poly while never revealing their secret.
Polys are all a mind game.
>>29632574
Zero fucks on what you think.
>>29632626
Great, congratulate your 1N4 friends for me. Doesn't really change anything I said.
>>29632689
were you in the military first or fresh out of college?
>>29633078
Enlisted in the Air Force, went to Goodfellow.
>Had inguinal hernia when I was 16 and had surgery that fixed it
>Currently have tendon subluxation in my right wrist
>Went to doctor recently and said nothing can be done about it unless I do surgery. Chose not to.
I am currently in college for CIS. Going into senior year of undergrad. 21 years old.
Can I join the Air Force with a waiver after college?
>>29632689
They werent 1N4s surprisingly, I probably shouldnt divulge what their AFSCs are on DLi wifi because that could screw them.
>>29633161
do analysts ever have any real contact with ground force guys?
>>29634235
It really depends on your job man. Lots of different analysts analyzing different things. There's no catch all analyst position. Say you're doing HUMINT stuff, you'll be involved on the ground. If you're analyzing financial nodes or some shit, you'll enjoy your desk. But even that is not black and white. If you've been paying attention to bad guy finances over the past couple of months, you know what I mean.
>can only do one or two ASSISTED push-ups
Shit.
How do I get stronger? Just keep doing those one or two push-ups every days until I can do more, and then eventually switch to regular push-ups?
>>29633883
Gotcha. What language?
>>29633685
>Can I join the Air Force with a waiver after college?
no
>>29633685
You could do the surgery, recover, get a note from the doctor stating that you're back at 100%, and then join with a waiver.
I told my recruiter I smoked weed afew times in high school, he told me to lie about it, but Im scared of going to jail for lieing, so in the online application section I admitted to it without him knowing, was this the right choice?
>>29629813
>Fruity Rudy
>gay
bro.
>>29634309
what i mean is, if you're at a desk, can you be "promoted" to operative shit? bad example, but ben affleck in sum of all fears getting to liev schreibers character
>>29634457
What branch? I'm marine DEP and my recruiter had me list it on the MEPS stuff, and I only smoked pot once.
>>29634457
You just made it harder on yourself honestly. There's no way anyone would ever find out unless your mos was one of the very few that required a polygraph
How soon after I leave boot camp can I have a medium-reg haircut?
I may be a boot when I leave, but I won't be a motard.
>>29634310
Well assuming this isn't a troll, someone in your position should use progressions in order to get into doing full pushups. Sets of ten leaning on a wall, then when it's easy do set leaning on a counter, then on a chair, then actual pushups.
