Michigan Gun Laws
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Fine folk of /k/
I will be moving from Western Pennsylvania to Lower Michigan in a few weeks.
What I wish to know is how gun laws/culture are different there. I know Michigan reciprocates PA carry permits but will I have to get a new one? What is NFA like there?
For reference I'm moving to an upper middle class neighborhood in the Detroit Metro Area.
Welcome to the mitten anon.
What city?
Some parts are lib-tards.. the further north you go the more gun boners you encounter.
>>29535894
I was in Michigan two nights ago watching the Red Wings beat the life out of the Philadelphia Flyers. Everyone was friendly.
>>29535894
>>29536479
This.
Michigan is a pretty decent gun state, just general stuff regarding limitations. No auto, need licensing for carry and concealed, tax stamps for suppressor, SBR, AOW.
As for whether or not you'll need an entirely new license, I'm unsure. I wouldn't think so, but hopefully a more informed anon can assist.
>>29535894
I think you will need to get a new one once you get a driver's license from Michigan. I could be wrong though. Our gun laws are breddy gud, no complaints really. A lot of people in the Detroit Metro area own land up north for hunting/shooting. Just to warn you, you're moving to the worst part of our state.
>>29536718
I believe if you are a new resident you need to take the cpl class and need to wait 6 months after your residence change... prior to taking the cpl class. Hopefully you are in macomb or Oakland county for quick turn around. Wayne county has an awful turn around...like 6 months after your app is submitted.
>>29535894
>>29536767 here. Which city are you moving to btw?
>>29535894
What city are you moving to OP?
>>29535894
>im moving to an upper middle class neighborhood in detroit metro
so im guessing livonia/farmington/plymouth/novi?
You should like it here. Gun laws are similar to PA, although we have to register handguns, which is dumb. We're shall issue CPL, castle doctrine, cops are cool with 2A stuff, never had a problem, SBR's and SBS's are legal but must be registered as a pistol if under 26" i believe.
Can't carry in most bars which is dumb. The law states "if the establishment makes the majority of their revenue from the sale of alcohol carry is prohibited" or something to that effect. WE just streamlined our CPL process. Remember to declare your CPL and whether or not you're carrying if stopped by the police.
Honestly IMO SE Mich is the worst part. Move to Western MI or up north eventually if you can.
>>29535894
Forget da trolls move to da yoo pee eh.
Say ya to da UP eh, she's Pure Michigan.
Didn't realize there were this many michigan fags on /k/
Meetup when?
>>29536915
I'm downriver. I'm not driving further than Lansing.
>>29536915
Michigan is secretly the most /k/ state.
not really all that sure what GR's gun laws are... but I remember when they put in the cabellas we had billboards all over saying "WE GOT ONE!" lol
>>29536915
>>29536926
most of us are in the metro area anyways. We should have a meet at the pit.
>>29536956
I haven't been to that place in years. Has it changed?
>>29536718
>no auto
You can buy machine guns in MI. It used to be limited to curio and relics, but it was decided that the federal tax stamp constitutes a defacto license and is enough to fit the state requirement that all machine gun owners be licensed.
>>29536793
>>29536479
>>29536784
I'm moving to the Troy/Royal Oak area because it is close to my new job. Unfortunately moving any further outside the city is not in the cards though I could move from North to West at some point since I'll be working in Dearborn.
>>29537631
>Dearborn
Better get that new CPL sooner than later. Don't wanna get aloha snackbarred by muhammad
>>29536975
Yes it has changed. The DNR put concrete blocks out there to represent a shooting line. They were totally cool about it. They even improved the backstop using a land mover. The locals still dump trash there though.
>>29537631
>I'm moving to the Troy/Royal Oak area because it is close to my new job. Unfortunately moving any further outside the city is not in the cards though I could move from North to West at some point since I'll be working in Dearborn.
Not sure about about cpl reciprocity, but once you are a resident for 6 months you can apply for a cpl and will be issued one in 45 days. They changed the law recently and now they now have 45 days to confirm or deny your app. If they don't respond in 45 days your receipt becomes your defacto cpl.
>>29537790
I was there around 2012 or so, they already had the blocks. I heard something about it being shut down or people trying to get RO's there but I guess not.
>>29536782
Lenawee here, got mine in 8 days
>>29537805
OP here, I did some digging through my state law and MI state and I'm still a bit fuzzy. PA claims their permits are fully reciprocated by MI, but MI also says you must be a resident for 6 months to apply to carry. This seems a little odd.
Also I see that classes are mandatory? I don't necessarily oppose that but I live near Pittsburgh and walked right into the city courthouse, got my permit, and walked right out in less than 5 minutes. Seems a little more arduous.
And one last thing. Michigan requires registration of purchased handguns but PA does not. Does that mean I'll have to register mine once I get there? Or that I won't be able to carry guns bought in PA?
>>29537777
I know Dearborn has a high muslim population but I haven't heard anything about it being a bad area. At least no complaints from other employees.
>>29537904
If you like sand nigger food, Dearborn kicks ass. And the muzzies are really friendly. They like white boys coming to their area. I guess they feel the more hospitable they are, the better their chances of reducing hate crimes.
>>29535894
Michigan thread?
Okemos here. Moving to texas at the end of July, and MI is a decent gun state, just stay out of Ann Arbor.
>>29537777
I live in Dearborn.
Gun laws in Michigan are not too bad.
You'll need a MI license to buy.
No ban on scary guns or mag caps.
No registration for long guns, but their is a bullshit pistol registration.
You'll need to drop off a copy of your purchase permit to your local PD within 10 days of purchase.
CPL laws are pretty atrocious, and I unfortunately don't carry for this reason.
You can see the ridiculous list of prohibited premises here:
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1878_1591_3503_4654-10947--,00.html
Hunting in Michigan is beautiful and awesome.
I like it here.
>>29537988
They also recently allowed suppressors for hunting as well
>>29537949
Nothing wrong with Ann Arbor itself, just a lot of liberal students and professors and fags. Saw 3 cross dressers walking down the street on the same day.
>>29535894
Berrien County reporting in. Please move away from detroit soon, /k/ommando.
>>29538054
I've seen the cross dressers as well, shits weird as hell.
>>29537988
>You'll need a MI license to buy.
Depends on the shop. Long guns all day erry day, but pistols you need the MI drivers license for.
>>29538126
Like they don't even try to hide it. Full beard and shit, no tits, wearing a dress. If you wanna be a faggot go ahead but why do that.
>>29536799
the only good michigan is grand rapids unless you're trying to retire, which in that case go further north.
>>29538126
I fucking almost ran over one. Those dumb shits just walk out into the road like cars and trucks don't exist. I felt I should dozer them like Rachel Corrie.
>>29536915
Some local guys had one planned at "The Pit" near Detroit but it fell through last year. I keep considering doing a Michigan NuggetFest since I'm in GR. I'll add it to the list for next summer's big /k/ road trip.
I find that people from Michigan are well educated compared to the rest of the country. Good job, Michigan.
>>29538188
I mean we do have the best public university in the country
>>29537904
>Does that mean I'll have to register mine once I get there? Or that I won't be able to carry guns bought in PA?
You have to register your "pistols" via a pistol sales record (RI60 form). You basically sell the pistol to yourself.
>>29537988
>You can see the ridiculous list of prohibited premises here
The restrictions suck but at least they shouldn't impact you carrying a majority of the time. Unless you go out to a bar everyday.
>>29538210
A doctor from Oakland County told me in a message that I should arrive prepared to be polite, receptive and astute. People from Michigan are intelligent and they expect you to be intelligent.
Geez Louise, I felt like I would be defending my dissertation.
Michigan has breddy gud gun laws, lot of people conceal carry, land up north is cheap so you can easily set up your own personal shooting range.
A few areas to avoid, but even downtown Detroit has changed tremendously since the early 2000s.
I had an office job downtown Detroit for many years before moving on to work further north.
I think you'll end up enjoying Michigan, I love the state simply for the fact you can do so much and visit really great places like West side, Grand Rapids, Meskegon, Traverse City,, Mackinaw Island, the UP including Marquette and Houghton... really an amazing State that has a great deal of stuff to do.
Also, we have dogmen in central Michigan, so be careful if you plan on buying land up there, especially if people trying to sell cabin + land for a too good to be true price, chances are you will get visitors at night and end up selling the place as well.
>>29538054
There's a certain type of people the live in ann arbor.
Like the kind the plan a memorial for culled deer
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/03/peaceful_memorial_rally_in_ann.html
Ann Arbor is a small island of liberal faggots and college students from University Of Michigan, where the indoctrination is very real.
Saline and further South into Dundee is much more conservative and people there are very much into shooting.
>>29538382
Dundee has cabelas, in which I am employed. Adrian has Johnson's, pretty small shop but has plenty of good Milsurp and used. Ann Arbor arms is the new hotness with an indoor range, but their manager is a dick
>>29538382
I love getting a cone at the Saline Queen during the summer. Afterward, travel down 12 to Wamplers.
>>29538314
I saw that and honestly thought it was an onion article.
>>29538313
Wtf is a dogmen
>>29538597
Seconded.
>>29538313
Please elaborate there guy, I lived in Michigan for 10+ years and I've never heard of "Dogmen".
>>29536956
northern macomb county bro here, I'm down for a trip to the pit sometime. Always wanted to go but never have.
>>29538028
Well I'll be damned. I knew people were trying to change it, but i did not know they passed it.
>>29536932
arizona
>>29536915
>>29536932
Michigan is the Texas of the Mideast, sans the ego which is replaced by a massive hate-boner for anything associated with Ohio.
>>29538845
About a month ago iirc, don't know when I goes into effect though. I think it was natural resources commission/committee
>>29536718
>>29536995
No, we're full NFA and have been since 2013.
>>29537631
Hope you know how to drive. You PA folks don't seem to do too well with speed limits.
>>29537904
They'll waive the 6mo period if you apply since you have one from PA. Well, Macomb county will anyways. I dunno about Oakland county.
>>29538181
>I keep considering doing a Michigan NuggetFest since I'm in GR
duuuuuuuuuuude wtf
ann arbor/ypsi here
make it so
still debating going down to virginia but probably can't afford the time off/gas monies
>>29538966
This.
>>29538966
We also have much better beer.
>>29538966
michigan doesn't have front plates
>>29538978
fuckin eh. more reason to ask for the NFA Permission slip and buy a suppressor.
>>29539007
How many Macomb bro's do we have here?
>>29538732
I live in dogman zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Dogman
now a days it's probably just meth heads
>>29538313
>>29538597
>>29538644
>>29538732
like a skinwalker/goatman?
>>29539079
At current MI probably has the highest percentage of /k/ posters relative to population.
>>29539056
I moved out of Michigan before the craft beer craze started. I regret it so much.
Last i visited, Howell/Brighton have pretty much merged, and Grand Rapids has a hipster infestation.
>>29539152
Detroit has a hipster problem of its own, but I suppose it's an improvement over prior....infestations.
>>29539152
all the big cities have hipster infestations, its disgusting.
>>29539193
I live amongst them, surrounded by fixed gears, kumbacha (or however its spelled), yogi fags and retarded clothing choices. cant wait to move.
>>29538966
>front plate
But thats wrong.
Yooper reporting. Gun laws are not bad, no bans on scurry babby killing guns or high capacity asssalt clipazines, restrictions on where you can carry are a bit silly but oh well.
>>29538313
Dogmen?
I can confirm that Grand Rapids has a bit of a hipster problem, but they generally stay in their own areas.
I just wish there were more CMP affiliated ranges around.
>>29539218
>>29539193
I fly into Wayne county to visit family every so often, one of those days I'll have the time and not too much jet lag to explore Detroit and see how much that's changed since I lived there.
A part of me wants to move back to Michigan, but I've grown soft living in based Arizona.
>muh Oberon
Can't wait to come back lads
>>29539254
>crime
Shit. I'm planning on moving to Wyoming soonish.
>>29539283
Part of me wants to leave. I think id miss my family too much, also I do like it here. I just need to get out of the metro area.
>>29539311
It's already back man. March....23rd I think. Regardless though Krogers has it in stock.
>>29539283
Downtown, cork town and Mexican town have changed the most. Hamtramck is still awesome but shitty.
>>29535894
Nobody's mentioned open-carry, so that's a plus.
>>29539334
Yeah I know it's past Oberon day but I'm stationed elsewhere and moving back soon.
>>29539332
Wyoming is the part labeled Old suburbs.
>lives in charmingly shady
>>29535894
Buy a regular rifle you cuck
>>29539355
checked.
>hamtramck
thats where the true hipsters live, the real dirty and weird ones. the mainstream hipsters live in midtown mostly.
lived in hamtramck for a bit, rent was dirt cheap but that was about the only good thing about it.
>>29539368
right, but its right next door to "crime"
>>29539007
Thanks this is what I wanted to know most.
>>29539389
It has a ton of bars. And perogis. And paczkis.
>>29539428
i know, i lived there with my exceedingly polish gf. my favorite joint was campau tower, i dont really drink.
>>29539428
based paczki, named my cat that
>>29535894
>What I wish to know is how gun laws/culture are different there
Fucking pistol/SBR registration
INCLUDING FUCKING PELLET GUNS!
Fucking no Silencer hunting
Fucking stupid hunting caliber restrictions
Try to live close to the Ohio border so you can GTFO when Michigan inevitably drives you insane.
Greetings from over the pond in Wisconsin, Michigan bros
>>29539465
because ohio is the only option to get out? most people who leave michigan go to florida
>>29539465
Ohioan-like typing detected.
MI allows hunting with silencers.
The caliber rules are a bit wierd, but at least they allow pistol caliber carbines for deer hunting in the lower part of the state now, instead of just shotguns.
>>29538028
>>29538028
>>29538028
Fucking when?! They permit SBR hunting, but suppressor hunting remains off limits AFAIK.
>>29539465
>ohio
>better than MI
they got us on gun laws for sure but every other thing about ohio is dogshit.
>>29539485
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160212/michigan-hunting-with-suppressors-now-legal
It happened in February.
>>29539465
Ohio is a fucking shithole. I dread even driving through that state.
>>29538028
>>29539483
>>29539485
Okay, I take it back, this place is Okay... Still not NC-tier, but it's okay. (http://americansuppressorassociation.com/michigan-suppressor-hunting-now-legal/)
>>29539465
i personally don't mind the pistol/sbr reg. it means i can register a lower as a pistol, SBR it, and then carry it loaded in my car because the state still considers it a pistol.
>>29535894
welcome to detroit motherfucker. don't go to target sports, they're jew-tier rapists, and this is coming from a jew. double action is pricey, but indoor 50yrd range and you can bring outside ammo. there's a good number of /k/ommandos here, and we pretend to discuss meeting up at the lapeer pit. if you need some gun buddies and aren't a total sperg, hit me up [email protected]
>>29539465
>preferring Ohio over Michigan.
>>29539535
can confirm target sports sucks. I've had good luck at action impact, center mass, and top gun. firing line and shooters service are ok.
>>29539503
>Ohio is a fucking shithole. I dread even driving through that state.
Ohio'fag here (living in Michigan, God help me).
Even I hate Ohio. Telling'ly the best part of Ohio is the part that has the fewest Ohioans.
>>29539604
you guys have all those waterfalls which is pretty cool, SE OH has some nice parks too.
I've just never been impressed by OH much. Even columbus is a relatively soulless city.
>>29539594
+1 for Center Mass. They also give a discount to military, leo and firefighters. Island Lake is nice if you're looking for an outdoor range. The pit is awesome as well if you're just looking to plink.
>>29539653
Center mass is breddy gud but since they got rid of their steel range i dont really go much. I like firearm exchange because they dont whine if i double tap/rapid fire. thats mostly because im a regular tho, they have good RO's that dont put up with bullshit.
>>29539678
Huh, I rapid fire all the time at Center Mass, never had an RO say anything. Sucks that they got rid of the steel though. Maybe I'll check out Firearm Exchange, where is it again?
>>29539704
between merriman and middlebelt on schoolcraft
>>29539604
>Telling'ly the best part of Ohio is the part that has the fewest Ohioans.
fuck no. my mother is from Monroe county, the 2nd least populated county in the state. going out there to visit family was always depressing.
>>29539678
Everybody has some complaint about the indoor ranges, but I have never had a problem with WWCCA or some of the state run ranges.
>>29537904
Moved to SW part of the state from Indiana.
Ri-60 for your pistols. Should be able to apply for CPL right away as long as you taken an approved course and all. Pretty decent state.
Mostly funds where I live. A few guys I know build/t ARs, have CPLs, mosins etc.
LGRW
>>29539332
That's not Wyoming, that's like Kalamazoo Street and Division and shit.
Ever gone through there? I have my hand on my CC the whole time driving by the Chicken Coop every time I get off of work. Fuck Hall and Division.
Besides the pit, where in the southern part of Michigan is best for outdoor shooting that you don't have to pay for?
I hate paying to go the range because fuck that noise.
>>29539994
State land with a small game license
>>29536506
fuck philly
>>29537904
Moved to SW part of the state from Indiana.
Ri-60 for your pistols. Should be able to apply for CPL right away as long as you taken an approved course and all. Pretty decent state.
Mostly funds where I live. A few guys I know build/t ARs, have CPLs, mosins etc.
LGRW
>>29539115
Yeah. I remember being teased by Indiana fags about being from here with all the "Michigan Miltia"
>>29539465
Ohionigger detected. Ohio sucks. I married the only thing from Ohio that doesn't suck. FML.
Other than that Buckeyes get more worked up about Michigan than we do them.
>>29539994
I go here all the time
https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10363_56074-233483--,00.html
semi-fuddy but the RO's are bretty cool. No rapid fire. Has pistol/rifle/shotgun
only supposed to load 6 rounds in the mag. I have never done this and never been yelled at for it.
Also it's free
>>29539994
For a 0$ fun range experience you can find some state land that is not designated as a recreation area and that is away from private property.
You could try a state run range like island lake that charges a flat rate per visit.
Or you can join a private range if you plan to go a lot. Multi-Lake Conservation Association and Western Wayne County Conservation Association are the only ones I know of.
>>29538998
>You PA folks don't seem to do too well with speed limits
stay the fuck out of the left lane and there wont be a problem.
Its like you're from Ohio
>>29540132
Forgot to post the state land link.
https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10371_14793_51784-200319--,00.html
just pick and county and they show what areas are zoned.
>>29540072
Never been there before, is it crowded during weekends?
>>29540068
>Should be able to apply for CPL right away as long as you taken an approved course and all
This, apply first thing and you will have your native MI CPL in at most 45 days (or not if fail the background check).
>>29537631
Welcome to Oakland County! I live on the northern edge of the county in the middle of the woods. It's a pretty good state, hope ya like it.
Michigan seems bretty gud, l live in toledo and work in Erie.
also,
>dearborn
I hope you like ragheads
>>29540388
nice hitler dubs
OP, dont live in dearborn.
t. lived in dearborn
>>29540265
I've been 4 or 5 times, once on a weekend, sometimes thurs or fri
never been more than 10 people though
There was this one time that a group of 6 or so upstanding urban gentlemen came out and ghetto fired their pistol at the 10m range and literally did not hit the target a single time in like an entire box of ammo with all of them trying.
was pretty lulzy watching them all agree with each other that the gun was broken.
feel a lot better about driving around in detroit after that
>>29540388
fucking hell it took a few minutes to tell if this was a screenshot from a game or not
>>29540435
heh, I was at island lake one time and watched some guy with a sks shoot through a sandbag he had in front of him.
>>29540451
u high bruh?
>>29538966
This desu. And to all the fags crying about the front plate, can you honestly say you have never seen a vehicle with a vanity/sports plate saying Michigan? Really.
Also fuck ohio
>>29540495
maybe i don't fucking know anymore. I was cleaning my lawnmowers carburetor with some spray cleaner earlier so probably.
what camera did you use for these pictures?
>>29540521
oneplus one, I think it was just a filter/mode I had it on?
>>29539008
I understand if you can't make it to Virginia. I try to spread event locations around a bit so more people have a chance to make a NuggetFest. Michigan is pretty out of the way for most other states but we'll see what happens next summer.
>>29540565
naw I'm just complaining
I think what you're doing to try and build some semblance of community is great. I hope arkadia exceeds all your aspirations, I would love to be a part of the build crew but again . . . way to expensive away. Nothing but respect for you, anon
>>29540557
Ah, top gun. Bought so many glocks from there. Nice store with nice employees, but they aren't very knowledgable unless its a polymer wonder 9, 1911 or AR.
>>29540493
I've done that before.
That wooden setup they have is incredibly irritating
>>29540816
Yeah at the 50 and especially 25 yard range it can be annoying to shoot depending on if your standing and how tall you are.
>>29540493
>>29540816
>>29540871
weird, ive never had a problem with the set up at island lake.
>>29540941
Pistol range is a bit fucked for shorter people because of how the wood beams block your view.
>>29540952
Its good if your ~5'5"+ else you better go to another range. They just kept the same structure for all 3 ranges they have. It works well if you shoot from the bench.
>>29535894
Moving to Michigan from Oklahoma in august.
Does michigan still have stand your ground?
>>29541076
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28xpttppz45tmhwqt40v2fkqrt%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-780-972
>>29541076
Yes.
/r/ing the Michigan constitution pic.
>>29540639
Thanks man, it means a lot to hear that. I understand the distance being a huge obstacle. No worries.
>>29541648
Gentlemen, how do we fix Michigan?
>>29542152
Thanks senpai
>>29542172
Banish Detroit.
>>29539311
>Fucking stupid hunting caliber restrictions
wut? I can hunt with whatever centerfire I want.
All you fucking flatlanders!
>>29542172
remove kebab
>>29543007
meant for
>>29539465
>>29543021
Colorado pls go.
>>29538313
I have heard of witchy wolves, but never Dogmen.
>>29539254
post related:
Could someone make sth like for Sterling Heights?
Kraut reporting in.
Married to an american qt and moving next year.
I am a mechanical engineer- would like to stay in the 30 miles radius.
Would like to buy a small "town house" first and move late to a cottage/farm.
Has anyone experiences with the german-american marksmanship club?
Thank you= Danke
Man, this thread reminded me how much I fucking love Michigan
>>29544131
I'm in Sterling Heights at the moment, stay north of 16 Mile/metro parkway/Big Beaver road and you'll be in the better neighborhoods.
>>29539465
Suppressors are legal to hunt with
Only pellet pistols with rifled barrels are considered firearms and need to fill out the registration slip
Caliber restrictions only apply to deer hunting. And only applies to people south of M-46 minus the thumb. which was the old "Shotgun zone"
you can use any straight walled cartridge with a case length no shorter than 1.18 inches and no larger than 1.8 inches and above .35
Also Fuck Ohio. Doesn't Ohio still ban any mag that holds larger than 31 rounds?
Did I say Fuck Ohio
>>29544131
Sterling Heights is filled with Chaldeans and Albanians, much like Clinton Twp. The north west part of Sterling Heights is the better part.
Move a little more north into into Ray Twp, Armada Twp, Bruce Twp, or Lenox Twp. you will find a little cheaper houses with some land. Also Stay out of Washington Twp, it's full of fucking yuppies as is a lot of Shelby Twp. Also be weary of New Haven, full of White trash and Negros.
What is with the caliber restrictions? Or is that only a flatlander thing?
>>29545423
>Or is that only a flatlander thing?
yup
CA transplant to MI, confused me at first. They don't want you killun chilluns in the next county over when you inevitably miss your shot.
Also why tree stand hunting is a thing, so you're always firing at a downward angle
>>29546694
Yea, I've lived in the northern lower for a while now, and the caliber restrictions thing is new to me. Must just be a south of I-96 thing. 243s and 30-06s aplenty for hunting up here.
>>29538210
>what is UC Berkeley
>what is UCLA
I like Michigan and UM is a good school but let's not go crazy here.
>>29544817
A relative of mine moved from Wyandotte to Columbus, OH for a job. I advised her if anyone asked about her history to lie and tell them she was born and raised in Ohio. That way no one will think she's a moron for moving there.
Gr fag here, nothing useful to say that hasn't already been said. I work in manufacturing and the gun culture is real. 8/10 coworkers have their cpl.
