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got into an interesting debate at school on guns, specifically campus carry. After some debating, we came to an agreement that IF we could carry, there should be an "official school gun" and that's the only thing you can carry.
The gun we agreed on was a revolver because
>relativity cheap
>simple to use
>limited capacity so people "feel safe"
>no worries about jamming
The idea of an official campus gun stuck with me. If you HAD to pick something for that, what would it be?
I will carry what I want. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>29524862
That is stupid as fuck.
Colt pythons, I'd like to be the only armed person.
>>29524862
Will this official gun be issued by the school to any student who wishes to carry? Or will funding be provided?
>relativity cheap
No they aren't.
>simple to use
So are autos.
>limited capacity so people "feel safe"
This is a stupid point, but sure.
>no worries about jamming
Patently false and a malfunction will brick the gun.
>>29524965
>No they aren't.
Ye they are, what are you drunk?
>>29525061
An actually worth-a-shit revolver will be more expensive than a wondernine or equivalent at best.
Unless you're talking garbage SNSs.
Reminder that you can get a TP9 for $300.
>>29524862
Whatever the fuck I want. Thats a retarded agreement. Good job compromising away our rights.
>>29524862
Tec 9s
Sawed off 12s
Pipe bombs
And moltovs
>>29524965
>malfunction will brick the gun
Can't you just rotate the cylinder by hand?
>>29525132
If and only if the malfunction was a light primer strike or bad round. If it was anything else, the cylinder will be locked in place.
>>29525082
>S&W model 60
>garbage or expensive
top wew.
I wouldn't call a Kahr a "wondernine" though
>>29524937
you have to pay for it and take a free safety class every year. If you cant afford the gun you can work a loan out
>>29524862
S&W shield would be a better option imo. They are easier to shoot, dirt cheap and fit nicely in a trapper-keeper.
>>29525224
>not buying police trade-ins
I'd rather buy a used gun than buy a potmetal gangbanger piece of shit Kahr
or just buy an LCP, fuck
>>29525253
Why do you keep bringing Kahr up? Literally no one else has.
If you want to play the used/trade-in game, guess what, autos are still less expensive there too.
OP here, Im well aware this idea is fucking dumb but this was the best compromise we could come to, while simultaneously trying to explain how guns work to sheltered liberals. So we had to dumb things down
>>29525270
>Why do you keep bringing Kahr up? Literally no one else has.
>>29525082
>Reminder that you can get a TP9 for $300.
That's not the correct way to use the word "literally", you millennial faggot.
>>29525132
No. There's a clockwork mechanism that allows revolvers to function. Break almost any part and the gun usually locks up. Alternatively, cylinder doesn't line up with the barrel and if the firing pin even manages to hit the primer it fires the bullet halfway against a direct obstruction, blowing the gun up.
Now that said, actually breaking a decent modern revolver is unlikely unless you try to do so. They are reliable in that most malfunctions are caused by ammunition failing to cycle the gun, whereas revolvers don't rely on that in order to work. If you have a misfire you can just pull the trigger again, skipping the dud cartridge. Feeding issues are almost unheard of in that there is no magazine, feed lips or spring to fail. Occasionally on a very cheap one the cylinder will bind up from thermal expansion, but that means that the gun is just unsafe to fire in general. Also the casings can get stuck on ejection, but that is only after you have fired 5-7 times and are reloading, whereas on an automatic it would jam the gun immediately. Finally, automatics can be obstructed by someone grabbing the slide or pushing it out of battery. This actually happens a lot with hand to hand distance shooting. Usually one shot fires but the second fails to chamber. On a revolver the cylinder can be obstructed from rotation, but it would be a freak occurrence. Hammers can be obstructed from falling as well, but that's why DAO models with shrouded hammers exist.
In short revolvers do generally malfunction less in combat, but they do malfunction and in different ways. Sometimes less serious, sometimes more than automatics.
>>29525281
...Canik, you dense motherfucker.
Colt SAA with the school logo and emblem on the grips
I want to die in a blaze of glory in the event of a school shooting and if I live I can say I went wyatt earp on the son of a bitch
>>29525271
You're not just dumbing it down, you're making this seem reasonable to them.
>>29525291
I actually really like this idea.
Too bad I went to a shitty state school with no school pride, I can't even recall my schools logo.
>>29525288
You say that like it's supposed to make a difference, they're still shitty turkshit guns, you ISIS enabling turkshit roach faggot cuck
Even if Ruger isn't as good as it used to be, I'd rather buy a NiB LCP
>>29525203
Kahr? Tp9? The fuck are you on?
>>29525271
You're a woman, aren't you?
>>29525308
http://www.impactguns.com/kahr-tp9-poly-9mm-4in-ss-tp9093-602686088046.aspx
I'm sorry your mom drank heavily while she was pregnant with you, anon
>>29525305
>objectively shown to be as reliable as glock, M&P, and other wondernines
>m-muh terrorism!
Cool.
>>29525332
>just waving away aiding and abetting a terrorist state with the "muh x" meme
How many greasy men did you wrestle today, Mehmet?
>>29525321
Let me clarify for you.
>300
Previous anon was definitely not talking about kahr.
Kill yourself dumbfuck
>>29524862
This is retarded.
>>29525354
>backpedaling intensifies
>"Previous anon"
I associate Kahr with cheap moonie potmetal shit like Canik, go kill yourself if you're upset that I'm not nuanced in your poorfag brands of mooniechink and turkshit
>>29525349
I literally don't give a shit. If you don't want a Canik, get a glock. Still cheaper than your garbage wheelguns.
Did you remember to use your clearing bucket today?
>>29524862
China Lakes for everyone
>>29525366
Or I can buy a cheap "wondernine" like an LC9 that I don't have to worry about in the event I have to use it and it gets taken into evidence by the police
>>29525124
Also gold-plated DEagles
>>29525382
>can't even get it right with an LC9S Pro
>still believes the "police steal it and never give it back" meme
Cute.
>>29525359
>lack of reading comprehension intensifies
It's ok anon you can still retake that english class for your ged.
Just admit you were clearly wrong about the kahr
And you should stop watching TYM dear, it's not good for your health.
Kill yourself
>>29525389
>he has no counterargument besides smug condescension and passive-aggressive greentext
>>29524862
Arbitrary rule on firearm is arbitrary.
>>29525391
>ad hominem
not an argument!
>you should stop watching TYM dear
What is that, some kind of numale "youtube channel" you cucks watch about memes or something?
>>29525397
>keeps shifting focus off of how blatantly wrong you've been
I think we're done here.
Carrying at schools is retarded and people who do it should be ineligible for a degree.
>>29525407
He's a proper fudd like you who thinks wheelguns are the best guns. He also happens to be vocally against the tp9 because "Turkey = terrorism"
Just end your life cumguzzler.
>>29525412
hypocrite
>shifts focus onto a discussion about how I should have been able to read your mind as to which brand you were talking about
>this is ok
>starts samefagging about "muh reading comprehension" and "muh GED" and some YT channel he has a hardon for
>>29525421
I don't watch YT channels about guns unless it's Hickock45, so maybe you should take some deep breaths and count backwards from 10
because your autistic hatred for some YT cuck seems to be getting in the way of your reading comprehension; I said I'd rather use a semi-auto like an LC9 instead of a "wheelgun".
>>29524862
>colleges around the US start making contracts with gun companies
>gun companies are now in competition with each other to get these new contracts, just like they did with the military and LEOs
>colt starts making pythons, detective specials, troopers, and official police again
>people stop making glock copies and goes back to making wheel guns
>I buy some colt pythons, wait for colt to fuck up again and go bankrupt, sell them for a few thousand each
I can dream
>>29525299
The Anti-gunners here in Australia want to ban all lever actions NATIONALLY.
>>29525415
Care to elaborate?
>>29525415
What the fuck are you even doing on this board you liberal filth?
>>29524862
Get a revolver with an integrated hammer so you can fire it from the pocket without the fear of the slide or hammer catching on the cloth.
Why not an LCP
>Pocket Holster = Invisible and Unobtrusive
>$230 Market price
>Most reliable at price point
>Less chance of over-penetration with aggressive Hollow points (Hornandy Critical Defense)
>Everybody and their Grandma carries an LCP
>Virtually every Gunshop is trying to sell the piles of them they have in stock
>$17 Aftermarket mags $25-30 Factory mags
>Gen2 LCP has a decent trigger
I carry mine EVERYWHERE, 30.06 sign or no
>>29525253
>Need a single gun that tens of thousands of students will buy
>Police trade ins
>>29525441
>I said I'd rather
Not in this chain of responses faggot.
>>29525407
>>29525359
>>29525321
>>29525203
>>29525061
Here are mine
>>29525421
>>29525391
>>29525354
>>29525308
End it
>>29524862
>Only one type of gun
Why not make a requirements list? I mean it's still stupid, but restricting it to a single model of gun, especially a single model of revolver, is basically the old "poor people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves" trick.
>>29524862
Okay, I'll play.
First off, a standard handgun is not a good idea. There are 6'7'' ubermensch who can comfortably handle a massive .44 Magnum revolver no problem, while at the same time there are people who are more comfortable with smaller 9mm or .380s. When it comes to self-defense, everyone has different needs.
>Relatively Cheap
Af we're talking about arming an entire school with a standard sidearm, or most of it, then we're definitely going to have to buy new. At that point you might as well buy semi auto handguns. That being said, I'm sure the manufacturers will give a discount for bulk purchases.
>Simple To Use
If we assume that this is actually happening, then there will absolutely be classes to teach them skills and exams to test competency. The college would definitely not allow just anyone to carry. If that's the case, then an afternoon with a semi handgun will be much more worthwhile than handing someone a revolver.
Also to note, semi autos are much easier to deal with. Empties are ejected and a new magazine can be inserted without much trouble. With revolvers you have to eject the shells yourself and the gun with moon clips or speed loaders, which, while perfectly fine, do tend to be a lot more fiddly compared to magazines. And don't even bother with revolvers if you're going to have them load each round individually.
>Limited Capacity so people "feel safe"
First off, what is "Limited Capacity?" Assuming we're still talking about revolvers here, why is six shots fine, but GAWD HAVE MERCY HE'S GOT... SEVEN! Why?
And that's not even mentioning the revolvers that have five, seven, or even ten shots. Why is six fine, but seven not? This point is pure bullshit.
>No Worries About Jamming
In some areas, sure. No stovepipes, no failure to extract, no failure to feed. But in exchange you've got a gun that requires more care (Lots of bent extractor rods, among others.) compared to a semi auto.
tl;dr
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>29525389
Provides no evidence or even anecdotes of people getting their firearms back.
>>29524862
Model 19 isn't a good idea because they haven't been made for 17 years.
>>29525415
You mean like every Agent in the FBI?
Carry everyday, has degree/masters for job.
>>29525283
>Break almost any part and the gun usually locks up
...yeah, same would happen on a semi auto too, and a lot of parts in the trigger groups of semi autos are more likely to break than those in revolvers due to them being moved by the force of the slide reciprocating when the gun is fired instead of by the user's finger. Also, the trigger groups of revolvers generally aren't much more complex than those of hammer fired semi auto pistols, if I remember correctly the Sig P226 has the same amount of moving parts in the trigger group as a S&W model 10 revolver.
>Alternatively, cylinder doesn't line up with the barrel and if the firing pin even manages to hit the primer it fires the bullet halfway against a direct obstruction, blowing the gun up
You aren't going t get the cylinder out of alignment to that extent without the gun failing to go off. Measuring the diameter of the primer pocket of a 9mm casing (uses standard small pistol primers) and the tip of the firing pin on my Nagant revolver, if the cartridge is any further out of position than .015" the firing pin will start hitting the casing and at .05" the firing pin would be half on the casing half on the primer with the gun failing to fire somewhere between those two points. Also, generally wear that would cause a revolver to go out of time is gradual and not something that would suddenly happen next time you need to use it unless you spend your afternoons spinning the cylinder followed by cocking the gun or something.
>>29524862
Ayy thays my gun.
how about an approved roaster so you have some variety
>a few revovlers
>some autos like glocks or sigs
maybe just like 2-3 variations of each
>>29526183
ive been thinking about getting one myself. How do you like it vs say a model 13
>>29526989
>that M frame and I frame
KAWAII, why don't they produce those anymore?
>>29525305
Slow down, anon, you'really about to OD on buzzwords
>>29524862
>IF we could carry, there should be an "official school gun" and that's the only thing you can carry.
Why in the fuck? How did you come to this conclusion?
>>29527078
I dont have a model 13 but i fucking love that gun. Its a joy to shoot.
>>29527192
because liberal colleges that's why
did you read the rest of his post
>>29524862
>Patently false and a malfunction will brick the gun
>Implying autos don't get bricked just as often
>Implying autos don't get non brick related jams
H&R Model 732 its shitty enough I'm pretty sure we can make them cheaply now a days
getting my first pistol soon. Ive only ever shot my brothers .22 ruger rifle. I really want a revolver as my first gun, is this a bad idea? Am I better of getting something more modern like a glock or HK? I was just going to plink with it
>>29524920
scholarships exist so richfags like you arent the only ones carrying school approved pythons.
>>29524911
op fucking shits
first post dubs post
>>29526020
I can tell you my story of police confiscation: gun is taken late May, case finishes court in August with plea bargain for defendant once it's clear he's going to loose. Ask for gun back, receive form for return of property/release of evidence, then wait 7 to 10 business days for decision to be made. Receive the all clear from the court and arrange to pick up gun at local police department(small town only, most use evidence lock ups and you only show up by appointment). The only bad part of the experience was the wait.
>>29525283
You
Don't
know
what
fuck
you
are
talking
about
>>29524862
Get one of those revolvers that can carry around 20 rounds and tell them to learn loopholes and suck a fat one.
