Are they not cool enough?
Because hunting rifles are pretty damn bare basic, case in point the Savage you decided to post
NEXT
>>29476215
So are Blawk brand Blawks and pretty much all other "polymer" guns. And ARs. And AKs.
>>29476130
I'm not much in to hunting rifles due to most affordable options (such as the Axis, American, etc.) having a mag capacity under five rounds, not being clip fed, and lacking iron sights.
I know I could probably mod one to have those features, but I'd rather just buy something else.
Any rifle in a decent that can shoot accurately worth a damn can be a hunting rifle.
>>29476130
Modern bolt guns marketed for the general hunter populace make about as interesting a conversational topic as store brand hot pockets.
i.e. the only reason you'd possibly ever want to talk about them would be because you have never touched anything else.
>>29476246
>lacking iron sights
It's the current year Anon. Sights have lost their purpose. Cheap modern optics outperform the best open sights.
>use open sights
>have to align the rear sight, front sight, and the target
>use cheap scope made in some developing country
>align cross hairs to target
>has better lighting than open sights
>can magnify if needed
>>29476257
Yes but a Savage, Ruger, or Tikka will perform better than a milsurp Mosin, SKS, or a Mauser with shitty open sights.
>b b b but I can put optics on muh milsurp
You can do it easier with a cheap hunting rifle that was designed with the scope mount in mind.
>>29476130
>implying you can defend yourself from Jamal and Shaniqua with a bolt action
Everyone can shoot a dumb 4 legged animal, can you shoot the 2 legged kind?
>>29476246
>clip
they're called stripper mags
>>29476321
Not everyone buys a rifle to defend themselves against people Anon. Lots of people like to customize their hunting rig.
>>29476130
Im a big hunter, but bolt guns, especially hunting ones are pretty bland, so when i talk about fuddguns, i stick to levers usually.
>>29476130
I have a savage model 110 from 1990 in .270 win, love that gun, and a precerb marlin 336 in .30-30, as well as a sears and roebuck m200 12ga thats probably from the 70s.
>>29476340
>Lots of people like to customize their hunting rig.
Maybe if by customization you mean putting a sling and a shellholder on it and one day getting a realtree brand realtree stock.
>>29476457
This. Hunting rifles are all basically the same, so there is no point talking about them. Hunting rifles that are customized to the point of being noteworthy are no longer hunting rifles, they are precision or long range rifles.
>>29476312
No, iron sights have not lost their purpose. They still allow for aiming of the gun.
As far as scopes being better; sure, you can shoot further more accurately, but we don't all need(gasp!) to shoot at long range. Irons work perfectly well for my purposes, and I like them more.
*prepares fedora for tipping*
If you can't shoot with irons, then you just can't shoot. M'lady.
>>29476334
I saw your mom in a stripper mag. Now that page is stuck to another one.
>>29476638
>shooting with irons is hard meme
A fudd who spends hours zeroing his scope deserves to shoot better than a milsurp enthusiast.
>>29476519
>Hunting rifles are all basically the same, so there is no point talking about them
And that's different than milsurp how?
>>29476651
Magnificent Bastard... I missed that one...
>>29476658
>imblying :^}
>>29476669
>Muh histor-ease
>>29476357
lever guns are interesting because they're so impractical
So, hunting rifles, I'm looking for one in .308 for mostly shooting deer and hogs.
On my list atm are:
Savage 11FCNS ~1000€
Savage Hog Hunter ~700€
Browning X-Bolt SF Composite ~850€
Winchester M 70 Ultimate Shadow ~730€
Mossberg Patrol Walnut ~600€
Ruger American Rifle ~620€
I like the mossberg because you can use AR10/M14 magazines, but I'm not sure about the accuracy.
>>29476312
>Yes but a Savage, Ruger, or Tikka will perform better than a milsurp Mosin, SKS, or a Mauser with shitty open sights.
If you're chambering them in anything less than .30-06 they really won't.
>>29476750
Anything on that list will be fine. You can shoot deer and hogs with a fucking lever gun since most shots are under 200m.
>>29476750
1. Winchester
2. Browning
3. Savage 111
4. Ruger
5. Savage Hog
>Mossberg? Wtf is wrong with you?
>>29476750
>dat price
I thought our guns in Canada were expensive god damn.
The Hog Hunter is nice because it had some open sights on it. You'll never use it once you mount a scope but it has that cool factor.
>>29476771
What do you mean by less than a .30-06? Caliber? Velocity? And in what ways would it not still outperform milsurp?
>>29476791
Either. The Mosin in particular uses 7.62x54 and can make shots out to several hundred yards with iron sights. The SKS is effectively a 30-30 in semi-auto (7.62x39).
>>29476771
I love the new savage actions
Also no Mossberg. They are garbage.
>>29476840
I can make shots out to several hundred yards with my .22 or pistol, doesn't mean itll be effective.
Ill take a cheap savage axis over milsurp anyday. Hell ill even get it in .223 and out shoot your milsurp.
>>29476840
Several hundred yard shots with irons on game? As there are much better tools readily availble, that's pretty questionable from an ethics standpoint to be honest. Enjoy your leg breakers and gut shots.
>>29476708
>lever action
>impractical
kek
>>29476771
>implying glorious 6.9x64.5mm isn't superior to fuddy ought seex, or any milsurp cartridge.
>>29476775
Yeah, the problem is that we don't have many reviews or experiences with cheaper American rifles, since most hunters here get one from the big German producers (Blaser, Sauer, Mauser) for 2000€ or more.
I'll look into the Winchester and Browning some more.
>>29476776
Yeah, well you know 20% tax plus the shops want to make money too plus the limited market.
>>29476130
it's not oper8r enough
>>29476708
>lever guns
>impractical
Nigga
>>29476708
What?
>>29476669
You're right anon, an SVT40 and a Krag are totally identical.
Kill yourself you obtuse twit.
>>29476130
/out/ is more suited for hunting discussions I'd say
>>29477586
If you want to be yelled at by hippies and faggots, /k/ has always been the hunting board, /out/ is for people who hike and camp.
>>29477749
point taken
>>29476257
/thread
I've seen people hunt with everything from Mosins, high end ARs, to Weatherby Mk. 5 deluxes. At the end of the day, it is much more about how well you can shoot the gun, then the gun itself.
OP is a faggot, perhaps a baiting one, since he he is going out of the way to shit on everyone.
Well ... I'm getting a cz 550 FS soon ... 6.5x55 so that should be neat
>>29476840
taking shots at several hundred yards with an SKS or a jank ass mosin with surplus ammo is downright inhumane hunting practice. they just are not accurate enough
>>29476750
Have you looked at Tikkas? They might be a better value than American rifles at an inflated price, though you really can't go wrong with what you have listed.
>>29477917
Hunting cartridges exist for those and not all soviet milsurp are beat up POS. At the end of the day unless you're shooting muskets, most guns outshooot your average shooter.
Also,
>hunting deers
>Hundreds of yards
For most people its more like 40-60 yards.
>>29477994
>hunt inna oregon
>carry a scoped bolt gun in .270
>every legal durr i see is within 20 yards and moving fast
>fuck
>start carrying a .30-30 with open sights
>all durr i see is now at 200-300 yards in clearings and canyons
>fuuuuck
>start carrying both and look like an autist
>now i dont see any legal durr
>fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>29477890
I am planning on getting on of those soon. They are beautiful rifles. Right now I have a m96 swede, which is great. Consider getting some model of swede mauser now to go with your CZ. 6.5 swede is a very underrated hunting cartridge in the united states. I've used 160gr round nose bullets on black bear with good results.
>>29478051
Why pay the money for a snowflake cartridge (6.5x55mm) when the .270 win (6.9x64.5mm) is similar, but superior, and much cheaper to shoot?
>>29478038
iktf bro
>>29476312
>use cheap scope made in some developing country
>crosshairs canted 5 degrees in the tube
>loses zero from bouncing in the back of your car when driving on a gravel road
>zero wanders as you move between magnification powers
>after shooting the rifle for a while the crosshair completely detatches
I'll stick with iron sights over a cheap scope.
>>29477956
Yeah, but they start at 1,100€ here and there was some issue with the safeties.
I want to stay with the whole rifle build below 2k, maybe 2,2 or 2,3 and the optic I want to get is 1,400€ alone, add mounts and slings and the budget for the rifle shrinks...
If it's good enough for rhino, then it's good enough for you hunters.
>>29478107
Unless you use Tasco, that shit just does not happen. As long as you properly mount the rail, rings, and scope, the zero shouldn't bump around.
>>29476457
What is considered custom here's my "custom" axis I have plenty other funs but this one is my favorite.
>>29476708
how are they possibly impractical?
>>29476658
>takes hours to zero a scope
wut
>>29478149
That sucks, I was thinking they might be cheaper in Europe. I've heard good things about the Browning and Winchester so that's where I'd look.
>>29478095
Because I like it.
Duh
>>29478095
Because 6.5x55 is better imo
And it's cheaper to reload for
And it's got a longer barrel life
>I could go on
>>29478051
>>29477890
Also trying to decide between the CZ and other options modern options on the 6.5 Swede. Any reason why you are leaning this way?
>>29478952
There are some husqvarna rifles chambered in it, kind of hard to find in the states but they are here.
>>29476130
because hunting is boring and gay and so are the rifles
>>29476321
>hory sheeet!!!
>>29478377
...what exactly is "custom" about it? The trash glass and rings? The $15 Walmart sling?
>>29478387
>arguably the most complicated manual action*
>can only shoot fat, slow bullets
>harder to follow up shots from prone
>(relatively) expensive
*That has any popularity. I'm sure there have been some absurd actions that only existed in one or two rifles before being discarded.
Don't get me wrong, they're very very sexy, but they are often outclassed by bolt-action.
>>29479612
Well, I appreciate you effort, but you are wrong on some counts.
Used leverguns can be some of the best entry to the sport for new shooters and hunters. They tend to run stupid cheap, with old marlins regularly going for sub $300, and run forever.
I also don't know where you got the idea that leverguns only fire slow cartridges. I would suggest that you look into the Savage model 99 and the Winchester 1895, which were both produced in very large numbers, and are rather common.
>>29478952
I like the CZ because CZ bolt rifles are an excellent value for the quality of the rifle you get, and a mannlicher stock is deeply aesthetic.
Most large European rifle companies chamber at least one model in 6.5 swede due to its popularity in the Scandinavian hunting market. Shop around.
>>29479612
>can only shoot fat, slow bullets
>implying .30-30 is fat and slow
Also, if you're close enough that the trajectories of .357/.44 mag wouldn't be a problem, you can get lever guns chambered in those that weigh less than 5 lbs.
>>29479185
That over and under double barrel
>>29478423
I've got a Browning X-Bolt and two Winchester Model 70s. I prefer the Model 70. The action is smoother than the Browning. Build quality is a little better overall (at least on newer rifles). Its called the Rifleman's Rifle for a reason.
But really, you can't go wrong with either.
>>29477994
well sure, but I would wager that the vast majority of people hunting with Mosins and Sks's instead of a more appropriate gun are not using an accurized finnish hex bolt or using expensive soft tip hunting loads
>>29476130
Hunting rifles no longer have iron sights or seven foot long anymore
>>29478038
why not an AR in 6.5 grendel? its a great mule deer cartridge with proper loads (although kinda sucks not being able to use 140+ grain bullets)
>>29476750
Get the browning. Winchester is good but browning is superior. As if it's cheaper then a fucking savage! The hog hunter is good but no detachable mags or even a floor plate. But hence why it's cheaper.
>>29478095
wait, since when has 6.5 swede been a snowflake cartridge?
You could use any rifle as a hunting rifle though.
>>29479836
Since he started using memes instead of facts for his arguments.
