ITT: Terrible Leaders
>>29432013
Very flawed man but he did better than any other commander in north Africa against rommel.
>>29432013
hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, Mussolini, Obama, Johnson, carter, Andropov, quisling, little kims, Chavez,
>>29432027
Better than patton?
>>29432049
>hitler
>a terrible leader
:L
Easymode
>>29432098
How's that 1000 year Reich going?
>>29432098
He was. Instead of letting the field marshals do their job, he insisted he knew better. A great leader would have trusted his men to do their job, not try to tell them how to do it despite having no practical experience.
>>29432129
>Letting Himmler lead
>ever
>>29432129
Not to mention, a good leader would have recognized how badly the drugs and mental problems were affecting his ability to lead and done the responsibile thing and left someone else in charge.
>>29432013
Here is your (you) now go out and play your friends are waiting at the playground
>>29432013
>>29432013
Atahualpa and Montezuma immediately come to mind. Pizarro and Cortez played them both for utter fools.
>>29432098
>germany is cucked today because of him
Stormfag pls go
>>29432013
FUCK YOU
>>29432091
Patton is my favourite general of all time however in North Africa his men lacked combat experience and he was still working on them. Montgomery did neat Rommel in that theatre Pattons star was yet to shine..
>>29432049
>Andropov
What was so bad about Andropov? He was only Premier for like a year or so.
>>29432098
Hitler was a disaster. YOu can tell my the state of berlin in 1945 and the whole unconditional surrender. Opening a war on two fronts, betraying the 6th army group, not listening to his best generals. Hitler is the definition of utter and complete failure at every level. At the start o the war he armed his nation to the max and launched offensives on essentially pacifist nations. The Nazi state was hopelessly bureaucratic and he achieve nothing of any merit except a legacy of war crimes and failure. His own suicide and need to drag his GF just rounds off his utter failure as a leader and a human being.
>>29432013
Mao.
Caused a famine that killed 50 million people out of sheer incompetence.
>>29432299
His legacy of cultural marxism and propagandising in the middle east. He accomplished nothing except a lessening of humanities potential.
>>29432308
Yup vandalised Chinas cultural heritage and genocided his own population. Legacy - the little red book....a collection of shit.
>>29432049
Jimmy Carter dindu nuttin!
>>29432175
Such bullshit. I bet you think he had a scar fetish and was a jew as well right?
>>29432175
His early war accomplishments were partly based on ignoring his staff. This set a precedent that caused some costly mistakes later from 1943 on.
>>29432266
More bullshit. Nazi Germany was the leasr cucked state ever. Thank 40 years of allied occupation for the porn and peepshows, drug use and antifa culture.
>>29432302
Especially on /k/ you ought to be better informed. A two front war was never intended by Hitler. He sued for peace multiple times with the Brits and secured his left flank (logically) before he started the war on communism. Germany fought an ideological war against communism causing millions of deaths. Immediately afterwards the west did the same,AFTER supporting the commies. Hitler did nothing wrong. 14/88
>>29432098
Fuck off /pol/
>>29432302
Fuck off Ahmed.
Hitler was the leader Germany needed. He should have listened to his field marshals, but the whole of Germany would have gone commie if Hitler hadn't shown up
>>29432129
Mate, I can tell you arnt in a management position...
People with experience cock up the major things, people without experience cock up the little things.
>>29432353
>STORM FAG MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL
>>29432346
If only carter had done nothing. Gave the go ahead to North Koreas nuclear tech and help create modern Iran while supervising a near economic collapse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sKMnhQWp6w
>>29432353
You are the literal cancer that ruins this fucking board.
>>29432353
Why did Germany surrender unconditionally and why did he blow his brains out.
Go fuck yourself you retarded Nazi faggot.
>>29432372
>but the whole of Germany would have gone commie if Hitler hadn't shown up
As opposed to just the half of it that was conquered by the Soviet Union.
The dumbfuck had France, Poland, Austria, Czechoslovokia and North Africa with friendly fascist regimes in Italy and Spain and only the Brit Bongs to resist him.
And what did he do? He declared war on the Soviet Union and the United States at the same fucking time.
He fucked Germany.
>>29432428
>And what did he do? He declared war on the Soviet Union and the United States at the same fucking time.
Did He have a choice?
Stalin was poised to invade. FDR was just looking for a reason.
>>29432466
So you measure success by the fact he is one of histories epic failures who lost, saw his country reduced to rubble and killed himself?
You stormfags are beyond autistic retard into a space of dumb all of your own.
>>29432013
In the pursuit of independence, never go full retard.
>>29432516
No. I'm sad at what could have been.
>>29432013
Lord Louis Mountbatten; according to legend the IRA was being toasted at the Canadian Legion when they blew him up.
Your basic issue stupid-clever toff who would never in a million years have gotten where he was without family connections that the Bongs let lead their armies.
>>29432551
what could have been was absolute shit.
>>29432353
>b-bullshit
Nice damage control fuckboy
>>29432594
Yes, Deutschland is now surely heaven on earth.
Edward Almond, commander of X Corps in the Korean War. Oversaw the Inchon invasion, the push towards China, and the subsequent retreat. The only reason it wasn't a complete disaster with tens of thousands more casualties, was due to the complete lack of faith his subordinate commanders had in him. OP Smith, who was commanding the Marine Division, went so far as to write to the Commandant of the USMC saying as much. He also used a third of his force to fortify/supply their route of retreat and carve out airstrips to evacuate casualties weeks before Almond figured out that they were marching into an Ambush.
>>29432466
This shows that you have absolutely no knowledge of World War 2 at all. Stalin was actually terrified of Germany and actually did everything he could to keep Germany happy. Hitler was the aggressor.
>>29432617
>Stormnigger thinking that Nazi Germany ever had a chance against communism
hue
>>29432466
Ever heard of the German-Soviet non agression pact?
>>29432617
>Yes, Deutschland is now surely heaven on earth.
this might come as an incredible shock, but Nazi Germany wasn't actually a nice place to live.
>>29432629
Yeah, the commies had no desire to expand.
>>29432677
Not in to Germany? Germany was the one country they really didn't want to piss off. Read up on your WWII history
>>29432647
Poland and Germany had an non agression act, it means nothing anon.
>>29432691
So it was wrong for Hitler to save east Europe from the commies?
>>29432666
Yeah if you were a commie or a money hungry jew.
>>29432049
>LBJ
>"I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years"
he actually did it the absolute madman
>>29432704
Didn't say that at all. You just gotta look at the facts
>>29432373
I can tell you are, because you're wrong but you're so sure you're right.
>>29432704
>save
>not make things worse
>>29432747
Yeah.
Commie rule was SO good for eastern Europe.
All of you niggers that attack Hitler and then cry S-S-STORMFAG when you get told need to shut the fuck up.
One person is defending the greatest leader of all time (in his opinion) the others are shitting up a thread with /leftypol/ memes.
Facts incoming
>Jews were a factor of 450 more represented than they should have (demographics wise) in communist uprisings in Germany.
>Stalin was poised to make the entire world communist, even through violent means, the same can not be said for Hitler or national socialism.
>Hitler send Rudolf Hess to sue for peace with England and offered to cede control of almost all of France except the German Elsace.
>The atrocities committed by the German Reich were all minor in comparison to those committed by the Allies or Japan.
If it wasn't for lend lease and allied intel the Germans could have won the eastern front. Instead we got the cold war and millions more dying from war and communist instigated famine.
I get it your history books are shitty and you hate hitler. Sure. But that's no reason to be so thoroughly misinformed on the greatest political and a decent military figure as well. Don't forget he got medals for courage under fire during WW1, fought in freikorpsen en lead coups like no tomorrow. Hitler is very likely to be ten times the man you will ever be.
>>29432813
>>The atrocities committed by the German Reich were all minor in comparison to those committed by the Allies or Japan.
russia =/= allies
Also
>our fuckton of warcrimes wernt as bad as theirs
Still warcrimes you degenerate fuck
>>29432813
Danke, mein Bruder
>>29432840
Russia was damn well a part of the allies. A pact of the devil to destroy something your leaders did not want to confront. Also warcrimes hapoen during war. Especially if it's millions vs millions. I despise the practice of German terror bombing and that's about it. From summary executions to rape, in general Germans behaved the most decent. Their generals were gallant as were their admirals. Amd the common footsoldier also had a good set of morals. That's why Patton liked them.
>>29432266
You mean merkel?
>>29432813
>this much stormfag damage control
Most overrated General in history
>We're sending you to Africa
>We don't have any reinforcements or supplies to spare, so stay on the defensive
>Ok, senpai
>Hey Guys! check out my 1337 bLitzkrieg skills, I just pulled off a stick offensive! Beeteedubs, I used up all my ammo and reserves, can I have some supply pls?
>You dumb fucking nigger we needed those for Russia and now we're gonna get raped by slavs because of you, have some but stay on the fucking defensive this time
>Ok
>Batter your head against Tobruk for like half a year
>Truly this place must be defended by true Giants amongst men to thwart the mighty Erwin Rommel!
>It was like two dozen starving Australians supported by 5 or 6 Indians who probably had Cholera or something
>I must conquer Egypt, like Alexander and Napoleon before me, I AM A LIVING GOD
>Second Battle of El Alamein ensues
>Long, bloody retreat
>Ko a handful of 17 year old Americans who got of boot camp a week ago led by a middle manager from a white goods store on the way out to secure your reputation as epic skilled super general
>Evacuate and leave 300'000 men behind
>Oh well, at least most of them were Italians
>>29432098
>let's invade Russia in winter while England survives!
>>29433733
>June
>winter
>>29433440
But he was a pretty based during WW1, you forgot the fact that he got delayed 16 days by a bunch of criminals and colonial troops.
>>29432813
>the others are shitting up a thread with /leftypol/ memes.
Sure is spooky in here. Needs more tanks
>>29434219
in russia we always have a winter, filthy capitalist
>>29434307
actually, summers in russia can be extremely hot, as was the case during ww2.
Lincoln and FDR. Two of the absolute worst presidents we've ever had, yet people dickride them like no other.
>>29434328
yes, maybe. but winter took all shit
>>29433733
The Russian winter starts June 22nd.
>>29434347
>the South will rise again!
Go finger your sister
>>29434460
>maybe I'll look right if I spout enough memes!
Not so fast, cuck boy
>>29432049
Obama?
Wut
>>29432391
You have no accurate grasp of history at all
>>29432428
he had some serious personal issues behind that nazi shit i heard he wanted to bomb new york
>>29432586
>its a "the British are terrible leaders" meme by the dominons
>>29432263
Montezuma was less bad than Atahualpa
Mark Cuck
>Clark has been heavily criticized for ignoring the orders of his superior officer, British General Sir Harold Alexander, and allowing the German 10th Army to slip away, in his drive to take Rome, the capital of Italy, a strategically unimportant city. The German 10th Army then joined with their brother forces at the Trasimene Line.
Muh eternal city, muh personal glory
>>29432308
how to cause your population to kill eachother, destroy it's education system, and it's heritage in 10 easy steps
>>29432252
You got me, I'll delete my 4chan account. :^)
>>29432013
best allied general in western europe, better than patton and far better than bradley or hodges
>>29434818
To be fair, the way he assembled the coalition against ISIS was pretty great. He got the eurocucks and even arab countries on board. Better than what W. Bush couldve done. Drones are good too.
>>29432466
>Stalin was poised to invade
>literally went into shock and stayed in his room not giving orders for 2 weeks after Op Barbarossa started
>>29432666
I wonder who could be behind this post?
Yeah, it was a terrible place for your chosen people.
>>29435235
Looks like el rato's relative.
>>29432744
Lol
Top Rekt
>>29432353
>this much werhaboo butthurt and damage control.
>>29436974
>sigmund shlomo freud
Herman Goering, bombed a city instead of bombing airfields and radio stations.
>>29437533
this
Good in defence with superior odds, crap at attack.
The Germans were shit - strategically and technically - and Hitler got lucky in the first year of the war against weak opponents with no desire to fight.
His leadership skills were rubbish, relying too much on divide and rule, whilst being a micromanager who surrounded himself with yes-men. He constantly divided his forces.
Where he did suceed, he did so in the short term because he behaved in an unexpected, unmilitary fashion. He was punished in the long term.
By the end of 44, the German armed forces were reduced to a shell.
Instead of surrendering when the writing was on the wall - imo just after Normandy when the Allies trashed whole divisions - he kept on with his delusions, even indulging in sippenhaft, thus destroying Germany with his madness.
>>29436936
or anyone else the Nazis took a dislike to. Lot of people there.
This guy.
>Failed the Soviet Afghan War
>Policies that brought down the Soviet Union
I'm not a slavboo, and I hate communism, but you have to admit he was pretty lousy as a national leader
I hate Monty for what he did to that Polish General he scapegoated like a complete coward, when that General had nothing to do with the failure of Market Garden.
Ultimate betrayal in my eyes.
>>29432113
But he had to prove he deserved to be in the cool kid's club
>>29438676
>policies brought down the Soviet Union
The Soviet Union would have fallen without Gorbachev. Communism isn't built to last.
>>29439606
Yeah you know someone is a terrible leader when they blame their failure on their subordinates.
>>29439980
Monty also stole credit like you wouldn't believe, I can't think of anyone on the Allied side who managed to snag the glory from their subordinate's accomplishments more than that fucker.
>>29439980
What makes it worse is that Monty praised the Poles' performance first, then he put the knife in Sosabowski's back.
Everyone on /k/ deserves to know about this dick move.
>>29436692
>>29440112
Polska will never have it easy annon
>>29434818
Yeah, I don't know. He was probably just tossing it in for the butthurt factor.
>>29438676
It's like you don't realize that the Soviet Union was crumbling from within the whole time.
