Mini 14/30
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anyone have a mini 14/30 here? Any opinions, been thinking of getting one since its one of the only semis i can get in my state
>>29328387
They are excellent guns!
They only have four parts so the AR guys will have a fit that they do not have 15,000 options...
But they shoot just the same.
If you have specific questions I will try to tell you.
>>29328985
never had a chance to shoot one dont care about customizing would probabaly just leave iron sights, ive heard some about thin barrels and not being too accurate? also not sure if id want a 14 or a 30
>>29328387
I just got a 30 haven't shot it yet. It has trouble with the commie ammo except silver and golden bear. I got some wolf so I'll see how it does with that. People complain about the accuracy but if you bought a mini you got it to have fun not go to battle with. Which is the reason I got the 30 instead of the 14, I wanna see stuff explode when I hit it not just whiz right through it.
Decent gun at $400-450
But they got a lot more expensive lately and a budget AR-15 is way more accurate...
The Ruger Mini 14/Mini30 Rifle is only good out to 100-200 yards...
>>29329031
The thin barrels walk or warp when they get really hot. The new barrels are rock solid. A zero problem unless you like to shoot 100 round fast....
I only use iron sights....
The 14 has a giant ammo availability base that is very cheap. The 30 has that shit ammo base that sucks.
>>29329048
around here new they go for around $700, id love an ar but cant buy them here, most shooting i do is on my buddys property and his range goes out to about 80 yards
I would literally take a pile of human fecal matter over a Mini-14.
Mostly because I can hit a target at 25 yards with a handful of shit.
>>29328387
It gets the job done
You can get an AR if you're trying to play soldier and hit targets over 100 yards, but if you just want to have fun and want more power the mini 30 is the way to go.
>>29329156
any other recommendations then for a semi auto rifle?
>>29329156
What exactly is your problem with the mini-14 platform?
>>29329156
I'd like to see you do it.
Not sure it's if it's still an issue or not but the mini 30s came with .308 barrels where as an AK is .311 for the 7.62x39. So the mini 30 may have problems with Russian type ammo. I used to have an older mini 14 with the pencil barrel and it was accurate enough for plinking, I never shot it from a bench for accuracy. It was a reliable and fun shooter. I eventually sold it to buy an Arsenal AK to try something different.
It would seem like magazines for the mini 14 would be easier to find since they are more popular. Anyway I'd double check that the mini 30 barrel is compatible with the cheap 7.62x39 ammo before buying that model.
Here's a dumb photo with the old mini 14. Loaded chamber, safety off, finger on the trigger with slight pressure
>>29329183
Give me your options.
>>29329184
MASSIVE gas pistons and poor gas system design. The rifle is horribly flawed for accuracy from a precision standpoint, although good for plinking.
>>29329048
This. I wouldn't pay more than $400 for one. It isn't worth a penny more than the cheapest, shittiest AR-15.
>>29329184
It isn't a fucking platform. It's just a rifle.
Mini-14
>overpriced
>inaccurate (second "generation" is acceptable)
>shit aftermarket
>Ruger are dickheads
>magazines are more expensive
>shitty configurations
>heavy
>throws brass 9001 feet and annoys everyone at the range
>open action and operating rod so they are not sealed from the elements like an AR
The only good thing about the Mini-14 is the staple mod.
>>29329048
>>29329143
I'd argue a $700 dollar AR will shoot about 2-3 MOA, just like a Mini.
>>29329281
>The rifle is horribly flawed for accuracy from a precision standpoint, although good for plinking
That's all anyone would buy it for anyway. I'm not going to war with a mini 30.
>>29329281
i can get pre bans but ars are going for atleast $1500, and mak 90s are going for $12-1300, i cant have anything wih pistol grip, collapsible stock or threaded barrel
>>29329303
If you want a rifle that you can just play around with and pink with, it's a great option. However. it's expansive for what you get.
>>29329281
>MASSIVE gas pistons and poor gas system design. The rifle is horribly flawed for accuracy from a precision standpoint, although good for plinking.
Are your fucking kidding me!!!!
The mini 14's gas system is undestructible and undebatable... You should have tried to piss on it's massive weight...
>>29329298
Offhand with iron sights. Fuck off.
>name a 1 MOA AR that comes complete with sights that is $700 or under
>>29329298
I think your reading comprehension needs work. He can't buy an ar, it's illegal for him
>>29329288
>>overpriced
Same price as an AR and not much more than an AK
>>inaccurate (second "generation" is acceptable)
Just don't get the first generation
>>shit aftermarket
If you want to play soldier and tac out a civilian rifle get an AR
>>Ruger are dickheads
Bill Ruger is dead now
>>magazines are more expensive
Not since Bill Ruger died
>>shitty configurations
It's the most simple configuration there is.
>>heavy
6lbs Do you even lift bro?
>>throws brass 9001 feet and annoys everyone at the range
Good fuck em
>>open action and operating rod so they are not sealed from the elements like an AR
Yeah I love shooting in the pouring rain and snow.
>>29329337
Which rifle?
>>29329281
you are talking out of your ass
Mini-14 is fine
>>29329334
>The mini 14's gas system is undestructible and undebatable
Exactly, it's HUGE.
Chunks off metal reciprocating with each shot is a great way to throw the muzzle off target.
>>29328387
consider an ares scr
>>29329346
Where can you can buy a $500 basic Mini 14?
You can buy $7 Mini 14 magazines because Bill Ruger is dead? I wasn't talking about capacity.
>>29329357
>Chunks off metal reciprocating with each shot is a great way to throw the muzzle off target.
A very valid point actually...
The Mini-14 is a "big iron" machine action.
But when shooting targets at 25 yards in real life................
>>29329377
i forgot to add limited to 10 round mags were i live as well
>>29329361
whats the ares scr? not familiar with it
>>29329377
>Where can you can buy a $500 basic Mini 14?
At any pawn shop, LGS, or gun show....
The old ones are just fine and maybe even better...
>>29329433
I can buy a NEW AR for that.
>old ones just fine
>horribly inaccurate garbage which is undisputed by everyone to ever own, shoot, or review one
Mini is shit.
>>29329433
>old ones are maybe better
top kek
>>29329440
>NEW AR for that
Where?
>>29329440
And you can buy 15,000 options for the AR too!!!!!!
Go for it baby!
>>29329429
pretty much a rifle stock that accepts ar15 uppers.
all the benefits of ar15 modularity and parts availability in a anti fun state acceptable package... at least for now
>>29328387
its shit compared to an ar for the money but itll do what you want since you cant have an ar.
PSA on any major or minor holiday.
>>29329476
meant for >>29329462
>>29329462
>Where?
On the Internet. Nearly everyday on Slick Guns there is a $500 AR for sale: https://www.kygunco.com/Armalite-Eagle-15-556-16in-Rifle-112956
>>29329490
inb4 mysterious $100 shipping and ffl fees that exist nowhere except in the mind of this >>29329462 idiot.
where the fuck do you people find 500 dollar AR 15s? same same place where you get $90 Naggants?
>>29328387
They're fine guns, but far too expensive for what they offer.
You really need to stick to Ruger factory mags, as there haven't been reliable aftermarket mags produced.
You can get a more accurate gun in an AR, a more reliable rifle in an AK, and a cheaper beater in an SKS, but that doesn't mean the Ruger is a bad gun.
I like mine, but honestly it hasn't been shot in a couple years. If I'm shooting .223, it'll be out of an AR-15, and suppressed.
>>29329525
Right here: >>29329490
Faggot. Why can you assholes find 4chan, but can't seem to use Google or read. Jesus Christ you nogunz children are retarded.
>>29329433
This poster has no idea what they are talking about; go to every gun shop pawn shop or gun show in your area; the Rugers are all going for 650-700. It's not right
>>29329433
I wish i lived where you lived.
I want a mini to fuck around with but shit artificially holds it's value down here because of chuckle fucks. Private sellers use new model pricing as a basis for their old pencil models. "THESE GO FOR ONE K NEW, 700 FIRM" Every gun show and gs i go to has used minis starting at $800
>>29329476
>>29329513
>>29329525
>>29329542
Does it shoot 1 MOA?
>>29329558
Has a better chance to than a fucking Mini 14 and costs $200 (or more) LESS. And you can easily improve accuracy and accessorize however you want.
I bought two mini 14s for $500ea.
I also built five ARs for $500ea.
>>29329536
>You really need to stick to Ruger factory mags, as there haven't been reliable aftermarket mags produced.
The deal there is that after market mini-14 mags are just as reliable as the other after market AR world mags.....
Ruger mags are 100.00000% and the after market is 97.00000%....
Even though very expensive, real Ruger mags will never let you down. Sort of a one stop shop there.....
>>29329558
budget builds won't shoot 1moa. it'll be about 2moa.
it'll shoot better with ball ammo than a mini would with match ammo
>>29329545
I don't control you local prices....
But they are very expensive machines here at all levels too!!!!
Mayby the AR guys will have theirs at $19.95 soon!!
>>29328387
SKS is a better .30 cal, but if you want a mini 14 for .223, make sure its not a first gen with a shitty pencil barrel unless your only option is preban if applicable.
>>29329609
Not the new ones, which is my point.
What would /k/ reccomend for a semi automatic rifle with detachable mags for somebody living in the people's republic of California?
>inb4 bullet button AR/illegally configured AR
No and no. I want something to get into 3 gun and to use for home defense/a truck gun
>>29329581
>And you can easily improve accuracy and accessorize however you want.
by spending 100s of dollars
>>29329683
A Yugo.
Get it.
You go.
The fuck out of that shithole.
>>29329685
And it'll still cost the same or a little less for a much better gun.
>>29329685
>more accurate than a Mini sotck-for-stock
>add $200 and it is now even more accurate and you've still spent LESS than a mini
Fuck you.
If you want a Mini, buy a Mini, but no one on here will tell you it's a good idea or a good gun.
>>29329683
An SKS is what you want. Not as modern as an AR but still nice. Buy a size small recoil pad, will increase the LOP making it easier to shoot. I also recommend taking off the bayonet and cleaning rod to save some weight.
>>29329647
No thanks I'm not a little Chinamen and prefer not to shoot rifles made by Chinamen. The Mini 30 is American quality in the 7.62x39 format.
>>29329697
>>29329733
>detachable mags
>>29328985
Top kill yourself
>>29329756
>not listening
>>29329678
>>29329678
yes, even the new $1,000 minis struggle to match bargain bin ar15s. the mini can do it but it needs tailored hand loads and cool down time between shots. The mini target rifles is a 1moa-ish gun but it's also 200 bucks more.
>>29328387
>one of the only semis I can get in my state
There are countless civilian made semi automatic rifles you tool.
>>29329741
So you're an idiot, it makes sense now. You're not here to listen to anyone just to be told you're right. Buy what you want just don't come back here when you're disappointed.
>>29329756
Jesus read the thread.
>>29329762
No. You!
I've always loved the Mini 14. It's an outdated design, admittedly. But damn, it's just one of those guns I'd want to have. There's other guns I'd like to have more from a practical standpoint thoug.
>>29329697
I can't. I'm a high school drop out with no job experience outside of fast food and I don't have any family anywhere else in the country so I can't afford to support myself outside of California.
>>29328387
I've heard good things about them and it doesn't have any evil features (resident of upstate NY) so I picked one up. After about 200 rounds of a few different brands using 3 different magazines I still can't get 10 rounds to cycle without at least one failure to extract. I've cleaned and lubed it 3 times now and still no luck. Going to sell it soon and get an SU-16. Also good luck with mags depending on where you are. Pic related is a 5 rounder at a gander moutain in my area.
>>29329833
Then here's a real tip. Stop being a fucking idiot. You don't want to get a gun you want to get your GED. Then get a halfway decent job, then save up, then get the fuck out.
I hate to say it, but you aren't going to make shit of yourself without that piece of paper boy.
>>29329868
I already have a GED son, wouldn't have even gotten my current job without it. Believe me, I'd love to have a job where I could reasonably save enough money to be able to afford to put a down payment on an apartment elsewhere put it's really not feasible. I wish I wouldn't have fucked off in high school, but as of right now I just want to get into some sort of shooting sport so I can have fun and make some like minded friends so I'm not so lonely, don't see why you have to be such a dick about it.
>>29329647
>most fun rifles on the market
Stopped reading there
>>29328387
If it's good enough for Cotton Hill, it's good enough for you, faggot.
>>29329981
> don't see why you have to be such a dick about it.
Because you're on 4chan. Man up or leave.
Have you considered going for a managment position? A few more dollars an hour helps a lot. Look at your finances, cut what you can. This is all assuming you want to leave, if not fuck it do what you want.
>>29329357
so, never got around to asking, but what happened to the old trip. The entire has been different for a while now.
>>29329156
So, you a chimp or orangutan?
>>29328387
They are great if you like M1s, M14s and M1 carbines but want one in 5.56 instead of 30.06, .308 or .30 carbine. They aren't so great if you actually want an AR and buy it as an AR substitute.
Alternatives include the Kel-Tec SU-16 which is more practical but not made as well (I had one, it worked ok but I just didn't like it) and Ares SCR which basically is an AR with a different bolt carrier.
>>29329031
Barrels on old models are very thin and prone to wobbling when they heat up like hunting rifles do. It also vents hot gas under the barrel behind the gas block which contributes to overheating. A 70$ barrel strut partially addresses this problem, but it begs the question of why you'd design a rifle with such a fucktarded system to begin with.
New models have thicker barrels which make the barrel struts largely redundant. I had one and it shot just fine. Still dumps a lot of heat under the handguard, so you do have to be careful not to touch the gas block. Also a bunch of the aftermarket stocks don't have proper heat shields so they become impossible to grip and are prone to burning/warping.
>>29329048
Their price went up with retooling for the superior 58X series. Prior to that they were about 500-600, which was only cheap compared to ARs which averaged over 1k. Now that everyone and their cousin makes ARs, they are significantly cheaper.
>>29329156
Give me a 580 series with a decent rear sight and I can make steel dance at 100 yards any day of the week using just about any ammo. Minis are definitely not tack drivers, but they can deliver acceptable fucking-around-level accuracy if you know what you're doing. And yes, this is without paying a gunsmith 4 figures to fully re-build one from the ground up for the task.
>>29329156
You're pretty comphy with fecal matter considering how much you love shoving your cock into the sewage tunnel of other men.
Fuck off, no one likes you here besides a few of the more cancerous tripfaggots anyway.
.
>>29329184
In a world of comparisons it inevitably loses out. Even having owned one and having like it, I acknowledge that is is objectively a second or even third-rate combat and precision rifle. It works as a utility rifle, but that's a low standard.
I loved how it handled. It seemed to point naturally and I'd get the same kind of accuracy offhand as off the bench. I also loved feeding it the worst, shittiest ammo I could source without any problems. My favorite thing of all however, was inviting anyone shit-talking it at the range (and it happened a lot) to run a mag and watch them do a 180 or at least reconsider their stance. Few of them of them came away totally convinced that it's great, but they all had enjoyed it even though they were predisposed not to.
That said, it falls down a few stairs.
-Gas system vents hot gas under the upper ventilated handguard and above the grip. This contributes to barrel overheating on all models.
-Change out that stock and it's hand-burn city.
-Touch the gas block and you'll burn your hand as well.
-Old models have thin barrels.
-VERY old models have no scope mounts.
-All models use Ruger magazines which are less common than AR mags, and far more expensive.
-Aftermarket Ruger magazines are very hit-or-miss.
-All of them use a retarded lock in system using a circle tab. It is very hard to acquire for lock-in and prone to wobbling in the magazine well (hence feeding issues on many of the magazines).
-Rear sight on a factory 58X series is absolute trash that never holds zero. Replace at once. This is the source of most people claiming that even the newer models can't hit anything. Usually it's just the sights drifting around.
-Ruger also has a proprietary scope ring pattern which is shitty and prone to wobbling, which is why people who try to use the integral scope mounts are likewise baffled by the terrible performance. Again, get a good aftermarket rear sight and use only that.
>>29328387
I have a 1980 vintage Mini. Pencil barrel and all. I bought it 1994. At that time ARs were expensive range toys that went for $1K.
I've lost count of how many rounds I've put through it. I've had one malfunction, a broken case head on some cheap factory reloads.
The pencil barrel means that for the first few rounds the gun is 2moa, but as the barrel heats it it becomes more like minute of pie plate.
One thing I've noticed lately is that the mini action, and the Garand derived actions in general are getting shit on for being open actions. This seems to be a new thing. I also notice no one seems to say the same thing about the SKS, which also has an open action.
The only thing I really have to say about that is clearing a jam in an open action is a lot easier than clearing it in an enclosed action like an AR.
>>29331024
How would you know how easy it is to clear, if you've only had one malfunction?
>>29329334
The gas system is great for feeding anything and everything damn near 100% of the time. That's the good part. The not-so-good-part is how it vents the gas.
>>29329377
You can get old model Mini-14s for ~500 or less pretty easily.
Newer models can be hard around the 500 price range from some guy who buys it expecting a 1 MOA match rifle and then selling it in a rage. That's how I got mine way back when.
You can get 7$ magazines but I don't advise it. Decent ones cost like 15-20$ or so. Yes that's double the cost of AR mags. We get it. But compared to the cost of other mags that don't see widespread military adoption it's not so bad.
>>29329536
>You really need to stick to Ruger factory mags, as there haven't been reliable aftermarket mags produced.
It really depends on the gun. Mine loved John Masen mags. Some people swear by ProMag 10s and 20s (but not 30s). People who own multiple see mags working on one but not another. Factory mags are the only ones that seem to work 100% on every gun.
>>29331040
I would hazard a guess that he has also fired an SKS, Garand, etc.
>>29328387
Mini-14 fan checking in!
>>29331024
>>29331040
Grand and SKS as well as pretty much every semiautomatic pistol I've owned except the Ruger MkIII.
>>29331081
>>29331064
>>29329842
Jesus, I could buy several pmags for that here.
