Finally have time on my hands again, will probably try and maintain 54R threads again.
(pic of prototype ratnik side folding variant of SVD-M, thicker barrel than the SVD-S)
Welcome to the best general.
Lets talk about:
nuggets
SVT-40s
PSLs
VEPRs
SVDs
etc
or just talk about guns you wish you had
Cheapest 54R ( $350 shipped a crate... FUCKING RIP):
http://www.unammo.com/#76
best price on a nugget (sadly):
http://www.southernohiogun.com/longguns/c-r-longguns/russian-mn91-30-762x54.html
Best price for the VEPR (20" model):
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/vepr-762x54r-20-barrel-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
Oh thank god. I missed these threads.
/akg/ kept telling me to get a Vepr.
Flandre, is a PSL really that bad?
I just want one that looks like this
>>29304334
VEPRs are solid 9/10 sporting rifles.
>>29304298
>Cheapest 54R ( $350 shipped a crate... FUCKING RIP):
>http://www.unammo.com/#76
That's not the cheapest.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-7-62-x-54r-148-gr-fmjbt-ball-berdan-primed
300$ a crate or 150$ for a tin
I like Vepr 54R but capacity scares me
I do not want it for sporting but for general purpose huntin and patrol and defemse.
Also I live in mD
i think vepr legal? Not sure
>>29304343
I've heard that plenty, but I really want a PSL. I'm not looking to put 10k rounds through it, I don't care if it gets 1 MOA, I just want an AK in 7.62x54r that looks like an AK to a normie. I know a Vepr is an AK technically, but this actually looks like one.
>>29304348
>>29304371
that was the cheapest I was able to find after using a few differnet ammo finding sites. I see now that with shipping Classic has them for $340 a crate, so $10 cheaper. still sucks though
>>29304334
the Vepr is the more practical rifle.
PSL rifles have become so expensive now. One of their greatest draw backs is the fact that they are so overgassed and built for light ball ammunition. Feeding them the wrong ammo will eventually kill them.
The Vepr doesn't suffer from these issues, they are also much cheaper.
The Vepr is going to be more accurate as well, as they have a heavier barrel than the PSL. the PSL does suffer from a lot of barrel whip thanks to the pencil thin barrel. Many PSL rifles are also not factory, as many have been built on kits or with new U.S. made barrels. The Vepr will be 100% factory.
The Vepr will also be brand new with no wear, where as any PSL rifle you'll find will be on the used market.
From various sources, it appears that 54R also performs best out of a ~20" barrel, so getting the 20" vepr would be the best option.
>>29304396
Ironwood does make a stock set for it. Even with this stock set, It'll be cheaper than a PSL
>>29304417
See
>>29304396
Unless a Vepr can be made to look like either of my pictures
>>29304396
>I just want an AK in 7.62x54r that looks like an AK to a normie
Zastava M77? They only come with a butt ugly thumbhole stock in the US though.
>>29304417
>300$ for 880 rounds is so expensive!
Haha, eat shit slavfag. 54r is going the way of 7n6 meanwhile 5.56 is cheap and plentiful as fuck and m855 still didn't get b&.
>>29304481
and this folks, is the cancer of the gun community
>>29304465
yes, actually you can up a standard AK grip onto the VEPR and use a standard stock using this adapter
https://www.legionusa.com/vepr-slant-to-square-stock-adapter-sgm.html
That will let you put on a standard AK stock onto your VEPR.
you can then use the Ironwood designs handguard or refinish the stock VEPR one.
If you really wanted the shorter barrel, there are 16" 54R veprs on the market as well.
How would I turn a Vepr 54R into a SVD lookalike.
What was purpose of SVD? DMR? Battle rifle?
>>29304417
holy fuck that top one uuunnnfffff
how much does it weigh
Bowmenarms on on gunbroker imported a couple containers of 54r recently, You can email them and get a crate for $300
My body has been waiting for this thread
>>29304551
>All these cans of Rip-it
M..M..My body is ready.
anyone ever find another gunsmith willing to build a DPM or DP28 kit? and general price range?
>>29304564
iHop aint got nothin on you
>>29304513
dressing the Vepr to look like an SVD is no different from dressing up an AK to look like an AR.
completely different rifles with completely different operation systems.
but if you really wanted to, ironwood designs makes a stockset like in >>29304438
The Soviet doctrine for the "Sniper role" is similar to the Western doctrine of the DMR.
The SVD was developed specifically to be accurate over a long distance while giving the operator the ability to shoot accurate shots in succession against a target or against many targets.
>>29304545
noice. Will probably have to get a couple. I missed out on the SG flash sale where they had some cans for $100 a piece with free shipping.
>>29304551
noice
>>29304564
i think Matt Yeamans can do it
really want to buy a couple more DPM kits....or a DTM. I already have a DP-28 and two DPM kits.
>>29304551
What're you going to do for a barrel? rtg parts is having some chrome lined ones made
>>29304602
probably get a couple RTG parts barrels, i am kinda curious if they are going to do an RP46-style thicker heavier barrel, for the keks or otherwise,i guess it'd be fun for bumpfire i just wish i could find an rp46 feed mechanisim for less than several thousand dollars, but its a rare part itself
Apparently MOLOT makes an old style SVD rifle, engraved as "КO-CBДM"
http://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic1043565.html
WHY CANT WE HAVE THESE?
>>29304690
http://guns.allzip.org/topic/48/1282973.html
>>29304721
http://guns.allzip.org/topic/187/1630923.html
>>29304602
While you have hte parts and kits, could you test something for me? im wondering if a DP28 stock could fit the lower group of a DPM, aside from needing a bit of sanding to assure a fit, if nothing else than for muh aesthetics of the club stock if i could hold both up i could be sure, but i cant find a dp28 stock anywhere thats not like 70+$ bucks and i dont want to pay all that if i cant use it
My M91/30 has sticky bolt trying to open it after firing. I've read that this is because of spurs in chamber that catch on expanded brass.
What is the best way to remedy this problem?
>>29304674
They're doing DTM style ones too, not sure what the rp46 barrels looked like. A guy on weaponsguild posted CAD models of the rp kit
>>29304298
>>29304396
>>29304475
54R is horrible tho
>>29304298
8mm Mosin a shit
>>29304855
>>29304865
ok, have anymore insightful things to contribute?
>>29304825
its thick as fuck
>>29304855
>!!ffUbDOTjoBo
/l/eddit is missing you faggot
https://www.reddit.com/user/ffUbDOTjoBo
>>29304888
At least people own guns there, sen pai.
>>29304298
I want to buy a moist nugget soon. Do you think that prices will ever be lower than in OPs link? It pisses me off that I didn't buy one a few years ago when they were readily available and under $150. What do you guys think?
>>29304971
It really depends on what nugget you are looking for, your run of the mill 91/30, wartime production, not fantastic quality but it will still remove kraut will go for 150-200, depending on where you get it, anywhere up to 800, for a rarer model, i think finns are going for 4-500 on classic firearms...also they have nugget food :U for 150
>https://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-7-62-x-54r-148-gr-fmjbt-ball-berdan-primed
>>29304590
Where???
>>29305085
Deleted stock at wal mart, just had all four cases sitting on a cart marked 1$ or less, so i grabbed em all, plan on handing them out at knob creek this april
>>29305059
After shipping, those cans are still pretty expensive compared to how I could get a can for $80-90 shipped last year
>>29305059
Yeah, I'm looking for "fair" to "good" condition. Nothing too pretty. I just wonder if there's a temporary supply shortage and that more nugget crates will start showing up online. In OPs link the nugget, hand selected, will cost over $200 after shipping. Another $20 for an FFL transfer. I'm wondering if I wait it out a little if there's a chance I could grab one for around $150. When was the last time you've seen prices that low?
>>29304765
Pretty positive they do. I'm not at home right now
>>29304883
Holy shit that's thick, looks like a SG-43 gasblock
>>29305159
well, personally i got my nugget from the mosin crate, he is a pretty cool guy and takes lots of pictures of his individual pieces, if you wanna keep a lookout on his site, i got a nice, excellent condition bore, but kinda chewed up stock, all matching 91/30 ex dragoon for 200 before fees and 15 shipping i think, the first gun ever bought and i think like in the first 10 of the orders he took on that site
>>29305198
Its meant to be thick to accomodate the higher fire rate that comes with being able to take 250 round belts and so on, gas block had to be made beefier too i suppose, i wonder if its still standard quick swap, or if its permanently mounted somehow
if you guys like sitting around on gunbroker, you can still get mosins for under $150. sometimes even around $100
>>29305159
Type 53
>I just wonder if there's a temporary supply shortage
Nigger, do you realize how long they have been out of production? Importers can't even find them much anymore.
>>29305222
Very nice, thanks for sharing.
>>29305261
I'm aware, senpai. Sometimes shit dries up online and it can be worth it to wait it out a few months. I haven't been keeping my eye on the supply of nuggets. I'll look into a Type 53 though, thanks for the tip.
>>29305261
..to be fair im pretty sure MOLOT still produces them, as classic hunting rifles
>http://www.molot-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/62
with chrome lined bores no less
>>29304765
Also http://mg34.com/product/unissued-dp28-buttstock/
>>29305233
If you had a lathe I bet one could be turned down from an sg barrel
>>29305353
i might have to pick that up then! thanks yo
Does 54r have any relevance today as a GPMG cartridge? Other than being cheap, what does it have to it? Also, how expensive is it to produce these days? Surplus dries up eventually.
Wocka wocka.
>>29305525
You know the majority of Eastern Europe uses PKM's and other assorted 54r MG's. They still produce loads of it actually.
>>29305525
its been killing people since the 1890's and continues to do so today, so i'd think its still relevent, cant go wrong with a reliable extracting, cheap, steel core catridge, it penetrates light material, you can shoot through steel I beams with it, wood, brick, it does not give a fuck about, bone is an afterthought, it can be fairly accurate with the proper type of ammo, cant expect too much outta cheap surplus though
>>29304298
Why can't SVTs be imported to the United States? Also, how many are in the country?
>>29305867
About tree-fiddy
>>29305893
Serious answer, please. Not in the mood for humor.
>>29305921
why
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>>29304551
Sorry to be the newfag, but what is that?
>>29305900
Less than 200. Low demand and numbers along with the cold war contributed to the rarity of it in the states.
>>29305867
it's due to the VRA.
Russia and the United states both agreed to regulate the importation of Russian firearms, and created a limited list of importable firearms from Russia. The SVT didn't make the list, as such, what was imported before the VRA went into effect was all that could ever be imported.
>>29304690
>>29304721
>>29304753
>>29304753
>>29305304
KO labled rifles are refub or re-built surplus rifles.
The SVDs re-sold through Molot are Izhevsk made. They are surplus rifles that are then refinished and re-sold.
The Mosins are re-barreled and refinished. The receivers are old stock, Izhevsk made surplus receivers.
>>29305563
i've always liked the way these look.
>>29305992
putting AR stock on slavshit is the hottest trend
Is anyone working on some steel mags for the 54r veprs? Doublestacks?
>>29306288
csspecs is making I think steel 10 and 15 single stacks for them. No idea though on a release date.
>>29306354
Damn. So i shouldnt hold my breath for doublestacks?
>>29306403
I personally don't see it for a long while since nobody seems to be making a big leap to take a doublestack of rimmed cartridges into a single stack feed. I'd love it though
>>29306435
A lot of money could be made
>>29304334
That looks sexy as fuck.
>>29307274
kinda like your mum
>>29308529
kek'd
>>29304551
Could you give me any information on trying to get a dp28? One of my teacher suggested for my next buy and told me to look out for a company building semiauto ones. No online shop i've seen is selling them and i have no idea what goes into a parts kit build. The cost, is is easy enough for a none gunsmith to do, etc. He was telling me it was around 2 grand or under
Looking at buying a nugget (finally.) Whats better, buy online or shop around at gun stores/shows? Where did you get your nugget?
>>29304855
1/54r
Would not drink vodka with
>>29308737
I got my 91/30 online from a shop on jewbroker. I won $200 on slots and threw it at a mosin and ammo.
Will the Ukrainians and Russians ever stop shooting each other so i can have cheap surplus nugget food again?
>>29309845
They already have. The war has been over since Minsk II was signed
>>29306040
DPM, or otherwise DP28M, basically the updated version of the DP28 light machine gun
>>29308679
If you have your own kit (good luck finding on, i havnt really seen them that often, maybe a big gun show like knob creek would have one? they are kinda uncommon) or else getting a deact and other parts, but it would take around 2 grand to just build it from a demill, not to mention getting a new proper barrel, because most are demilled when imported, i only know of one company, smgguns that builds them, but they have halted everything to focus on their fg42 project
Got 150 rounds of 54r yellow tip heavy ball (10 54 headstamp) for 60 $, how'd I do?
>>29304481
>Haha I'm glad fellow gun owners have to pay inflated prices for stuff I don't like
>>29304298
Do you think surplus 54r will be coming back soon?
>>29311836
when thing settle in ukraine they will
>>29304791
Chamber brush and a low speed drill. Oh and lube.
>>29305867
Saw one in Kentucky, tho it had been chromed out and " fixed" .
>>29304481
>tfw aftermarket 5.45 is still cheaper than 5.56
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