Convince me to buy this weapon, or convince me not to.
Also Hk general thread.
nah
>>29293457
Get the HK45ct
>muh mk24
>muh Osama raid
Why would you ever buy that instead of a VP9?
>>29293457
its a less pretty, less cool USP, but cheaper and ive heard nice things about it.
most will say if you want HK, than get a USP, if you cant afford or find a USP, get the HK45.
if you don't want that, get a glawk
>>29293457
I have the USP 45 good solid handgun I like it nad would like the p30 someday, the p30 and HK45 are what you might call derivatives of the USP
the VP9 and 40 are cosmetically similar to the the P30 but not mechanically,
PS the p30 is on the top of my 9mm list with the usp 9 as well
>>29293457
I get will HOPEFULLY be getting my USP 45 tactical tomorrow. Took 34 days for me to get my handgun qualification license (maryland), and tomorrow will be the end of my "cooling off" period. Fuck I hate this state
>>29296738
>tfw I live in VA but work in MD and may or may not CC my Mk23 in MD just because fuck maryland
>>29293457
Baby Eagle master race chiming in
>>29293457
>>29295123
I just got a P30 a few weeks ago and I love it. It shoots like a dream.
>>29295069
>most will say if you want HK, than get a USP, if you cant afford or find a USP, get the HK45.
A long while back while ThatGuy was still posting regularly, I saw an HK general thread and asked for the differences in the more modern HK pistols (USP, P2000, P30, VP9 etc.) and they all basically said "If you want an HK pistol, VP9 is best." I bought some USPs instead, and always wondered if I made the right choice (I love them so far, really). Looks to me like the only thing newer models have going for them is better ergos.
So uh.... Were they retarded that day? Did I really choose wisely?
>>29299291
vp9 cant shoot when wet. MAC stopped shilling it. that says it all right there.
>>29299314
Wet as in water, or wet as in over-lubed like a twink's anus?
>>29295069
it's not any cheaper than a USP, in fact it's more
the hk45 is also around the same price
>>29293457
If you want an HK, look at the p2000 also, it is a USP and p30 mixed, and is about $200 cheaper
>>29299291
If you want any info on HK, I can help you out a bit. (I know about their handguns anyways)
>>29299335
Are we talking models or mechanisms here? I already have my USPs, so I'm pretty locked in there. Only other HK handgun on my to-do list at this point is snagging a Mk23 if I can find one for the right price.
But if you have advice on best spots to keep lubed, or must-have accessories on a USP, I'm all ears. Or eyes. Yes. Eyes.
>>29299349
I think I half read your post, I thought you were trying to decide.
USP is the best HK imo, the newer ones don't feel as solid to me.
Lube? on a USP? why..........
the downfall of the USP is the rail, but personally I could give a fuck less about some gay light on my handgun.
>>29299364
>Lube? on a USP? why..........
I wanna make sure my babies run smooth. Are you recommending against it?
>the downfall of the USP is the rail, but personally I could give a fuck less about some gay light on my handgun.
Totally agree there, though there are light/laser options for it if I ever felt like being lazy. I dislike the idea of the bulk though.
>>29293457
I had one and loved it. Only sold it because I prefer the HK45c
>>29293882
agreed
>>29297434
also in VA and may or may not have done the same thing in maryland a few times
sorry for in advance for shitposting a bunch in here but im a big Hk fag and this thread activated my trap card
I've owned the USP9t USP9c P2000 HK45 HK45c VP9 and I will say that the model that I just recently bought and have fallen in love with as far as CCW is the P30sk. Was skeptical at first because it was pretty small but after ordering a base plate for the standard 10rd mag makes the gun ergonomically one of the most comfortable CCW handguns ive ever owned. Being able to change the backstraps and grips around like the VP9 as well as taking the VP9/P30 mags is also a major plus. Seriously if you can find it (havent seen many around) you should absolutely check it out. It is in my opinion about 100x better than the p2000
>>29299314
>>29299322
MAC is a retard. Many have shown that the VP9 passes water tests just fine.
just do it.
two Nazi's walk into a bar...wait no...yeah, yeah.
So can someone tell me what exactly IS the major differences between the HK45 and the USP45 (besides rollmarks)?
Imma poorfag who lusts after the USP but I wouldn't mind getting an HK45 to bridge the gap while I get my funds in order
I'm pretty positive that the HK45 is just as expensive if not more expensive than the USP. It is HKs updated model if I'm not mistaken. Not saying it's better or worse or anything because I own both and love them equally but it is extremely hard to beat the HK45c. The HK45ct is like 1100-1200$ so it is not any cheaper than the USP. In fact, I've seen USPs around for 800-900
>>29301923
Second. I saw an HK45 in the case with a USP .45 at KY Gun co this week and the USP was about $80 cheaper. I think I paid $1200 for my HK45 and 3 mags.
These guys have to be thinking of the MK23 vs HK45.
The HK45 IS the new version. The USP went into production in 1993. I don't know when the HK45 was designed but it was after the P2000 (2001) and before the US Joint Combat Pistol program was suspended (2006). I agree that I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I like mine but I've only ever shot USPs here and there with friends, never owned one.
The new line kicks the shit out of USPs when it comes to ergos and that helps me shoot them better, I will say that. The P30Sk is the most comfortable shooting carry gun I think I've ever owned.
>>29293457
Just buy a USP.
>>29295069
no. the hk45 and p30 don't work like the vp9. they are more expensive than the usp line. They also are more ergonomic. current gen h&k guns are comfy as fuck. Now the trigger is nothing to write home about, it's no usp match. But a vanilla usp45 is cheaper than a h&k 45, and the same is true for tactical models.
>>29301923
>>29302394
So if I'm a poorfag I should just stick with the USP? I'm saving up for a USPc so I can CC it and use it for HD
>>29303744
if you're a poorfag, don't buy h&k. it' a high quality product and it cost extra money. while i think it better than a glock, it's certainly less coss-efficent.
>>29303744
get a normal usp there not that much larger and you can get them for 500-550 used if you look around
>>29293457
I love my USPc.
>>29303841
Mostly just want a nice pistol chambered in fuddy five. I was looking at Glock 30s as well
>>29293457
I can personally vouch for the excellence of that generation of HK pistol. I own a P30L. It's certainly not the best "value" in handguns, but it's definitely my favorite polymer framed pistol.
Bought a USP45 because I loved how the vp9 was. I'm debating between my first 9mm being the p30 or usp9
>>29293457
Two less rounds than the USP, doesn't have the superior recoil system.
>>29303744
>>29303895
If you can swing the cost of a USP? Do it. It will outlive your poorfaggotry, so eventually you'll be able to feed it well. In the meantime, it will eat whatever you feed it. I trust it more than I did my Glock.
>>29293457
P30L
That's why
>>29299364
They look good with a light though.
OP.
I have twenty or so handguns, I have CZ's, Glocks, Smiths, Sigs, Rugers, and none of them perform as well as my HK's. I run them hard, I abuse them, and they don't stop. Get a USP, you won't regret it.
>>29305111
Been half-ass considering a light/laser, and looked at the TLR-1 Any others I should look into?
>>29305341
I wish I had gone with a surefire to be honest.
>>29305369
Dem lumens, orrrrr?
Is the P2000 as good as a USP/USPc?
>>29293457
HK thread best thread
>>29306317
it has interchangable back straps and p30 style controls. so good
but it has p30 trigger. so bad.
usp-c > p2000
ja sehr
>>29293457
Go to the funstore and see if you can hold a USP45 comfortably. If you can get that instead its better unless you really want to put a light on the gun.
>>29306675
I have shot both and this is false.
>>29306317
Yes, its the same thing but lighter, more ergonomic, and a better rail.
>>29306857
P30/P2000 trigger is worse in every single way to the USP.
>>29301769
The HK45 has a better rail
better ergos(for some),
lighter
The USP 45 has
more capacity
better buffer system
better trigger(for some)
>>29306940
No its not, learn how to shoot.
>>29306960
>Someone claimed a gun has an inferior trigger to another gun
>He must not be able to shoot
Nice.
The P30/P2000 has a worse break, reset, and is grittier in DA than a USP, I own two USP's, a P30, and had a P2000sk (albeit LEM).
>>29307030
>He must not be able to shoot
Literally the problem every time someone complains about an HK trigger. I was shooting rentals too.
The only thing that is worse is reset, but that only matters for people who dry fire their guns instead of shooting them.
>>29307071
>Paging the gun doctor, please continue your diagnosis.
Sorry no-guns, but it is a worse trigger, it has a much better grip, and shoots well, but the P30 is lacking on the trigger side. I'm not even a trigger snob, just pointing out that it is not as good of a trigger. Additionally, its not like the USP trigger is anything special either, a well tuned 1911 stomps all over it.
Why cant the HK45 shoot steel? I have one and literally every mag of steel I shoot the slide locks up and I have to hit the back of the slide to get it to close.
>>29307119
Are you shooting Tula?
Mine shoots wolf and silver bear fine, but will not shoot Tulammo. No idea why.
>>29307103
>Sorry no-guns, but it is a worse trigger, it has a much better grip,
Very much hazgunz
>a well tuned 1911 stomps all over it.
No shit we are talking about combat triggers though, not some fudds baby.
>>29306754
Is there any question that this is the best HK pistol?
>>29307144
Tul and brown bear. I have to hit it in the ass to get it to close. Its pretty disappointing considering its a fucking $1k gun.
>>29307103
>a well tuned 1911 stomps all over it.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, ARE YOU SERIOUS??
You mean to fucking tell me a custom worked over 1911 trigger is better than <x> gun?
My fucking God, what a God damned insight. What are you going to tell us next, that water is wet and the sky is blue?
Someone get this dumb cocksucker a medal, he sure fucking contributed a wealth of knowledge tonight.
>>29303744
If you're a poorfag you should stick to the vp9 and 9mm. That's the only reason hk made it so poorfag glawksuckers could into quality
>>29307166
How many rounds do you have through the gun? It's possible its not broken in yet and due to the somewhat light loading of the ruskie ammo the slide doesn't have enough velocity to return to battery fully.
Also, buy better ammo.
>>29307226
I have around 400 rounds through it.
>>29307240
It should be broken in by now, I guess yours just doesn't like steel.
>>29307257
>HK fuccboi's thinking its ok their expensive gun cant shoot shit ammo
>>29293457
I own a USP and two USPCs. Also own a VP9. Haven't shot the HK45s, but I've held them and they were nice. P30 and P2000 feel nearly identical aside from the slight differences.
With the VP out I would bypass all the other H&K pistols and buy a VP9 again if I wanted an H&K gun for practical carry/use. There just isn't a lot the other guns offer unless you insist on a hammer, need a K/SK size for carry, or need a factory ready suppressor host.
I just wish H&K would get on with it and release a compact VP9 that uses USPC/P2000 mags within the next year... or two. Hopefully...
>>29307166
so a well built gun with tight tolerances doesn't like shit-tier ammo meant for combloc garbage? boggles the mind.
>>29307290
How is the P2000 anyway?
>>29307569
>those grapes are sour anyway!
>>29307595
>a gun has to eat garbage to be any good.
>>29307778
A gun that works properly with steel cased ammo is superior to one that doesn't.
Why would you think otherwise?
If your gun doesn't work with Tula then there is something wrong with your gun.
>>29307266
mine shoots tula and federal aluminium, what's shittier than that?
>>29307811
Why buy Tula? It's bottom of the barrel. It's like going to white castle when your hungry.
>>29307874
White Castle is fucking delicious, you nu-male piece of shit.
inb4
>i only eat vegan, paleo, gluten-free, no-carb, cous-cous salads
>>29307585
Like a USPC with a smaller/adjustable grip, less aggressive texturing, and a rail. Oh, and the ambidextrous slide release if that matters to you.
The HK45 and P2000s really just feel like product improved/tweaked USPs to me, which is a good thing. The P30 does feel a little removed from either though, I suppose.
>>29293457
Op
Honestly it's more than yr car payment &most ppl house payment but once yr holding one in yr hands. I'll buy it if u even can sell after a month of hk spell
>>29293457
> convince me
Can't you just sack up and get off your wallet? Or don't. Why do you insist on dragging us into your shit?
Pro tip: don't answer that.
>>29307266
>poorfag fuccboi's thinking its ok to lurk a thread for something they desire and try to find reasons those grapes are sour
>>29307155
no. is best hk
>>29299110
Why does that extra mag look rusted as fuck? Also only one spare mag?
>>29299335
Right here, bro.
Very interested in gating babby's first HK.
I'm looking at the P2000, VP9 and the P30.
Is it worth it to so spend more for the P30? My local range had the other two available to rent and I shot them very well at 10 yards.
I'm interested in having a hammer fired one as all I have are strikers, but that isn't a deal breaker.
Splooge your knowledge all over me. I'm ready.
>>29295123
>>29295123
I have a p30. It's very nice.
>>29307911
Fuck you, twin towers. In and Out is vastly superior.
>thread is peestol only because poorfags can't afford HK long gunz
>>29310414
I think that's the lighting
The important thing to remember is that the HK45 is the product of USP tech, while the P30 is more like the p2000.
I personally own a USP9 Expert, and I just think it's the goddamn bees knees.
>>29293457
I'll make this simple for you.
Why you should buy it:
-It's a gun.
Why you shouldn't buy it:
-
>>29310620
Check /brg/. Someone has a real Hk91
>>29307119
Why does it malfunction? It's just another handgun, the rollmark doesn't make it magical or better then the rest of the handguns out there. It's just what HKfags like to believe. Do a through cleaning, and if it's a gun with a high round count, replace the recoil spring.
>>29305369
Tlr-1 is the way to go. Surefire fits like ass on a gg&g rail adapter
Go Big Baby!!!
>>29299332
>>29303595
really? huh, where im at the USP is more. not by much but enough
>>29306754
airshit
