So what do you think of the new model Xwings versus the old ones?
Engine redesign for a slimmer profile. I presume no power or fuel efficiency loss as this is 20-30ish years into the future. Improved protection for Droid. Looks more maneuverable that predecessor.
I like it.
I like the old model better but the new one isn't bad.
Is the new engine better? Visually the paint scheme is nicer but the split engine just not do it for me
>>28345200
No one told him what the Z95.
Cockpit seem to be a bit too high. Otherwise good design.
>>28345200
>Pilot has no uniform at all.
See, this is why you rebel scum are so fucking hated.
>>28345200
>tfw no y-wings or others in a new movie
>a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away
>still needing a droid
>>28345280
Have you ever watched the damned movies?
Rebel pilots generally wear a uniform.
>>28345280
>implying that's the pilot
he's probably one of those engineers who defected from incom with the plans for the t-65. those sheds look more like workshops then hangers
>>28345292
>still not using only droids
>>28345292
>not having a combined engineer, co-pilot and on board computer
I always thought it sucked how unprotected the droid was in an x-wing. Almost like "fuck you, robot, who cares..."
>>28345333
>Almost like "fuck you, robot, who cares..."
Nice numbers, but they're just robots, man.
>>28345255
The Z-95 wasn't the T-70's inspiration.
>>28345286
Something about maintenance. The Resistance is a PMC compared to a full-fledged rebellion like the original trilogy.
>>28345292
imagine earth came into contact with the knowlege of thousands of other sentient species and homeworlds in the late 40s to 50s. earth bands together to achieve space travel. i imagine most starwars technology to be about equal to what we couldve had set up by the 90s in this alternate world.
>>28345340
R2-D2s aren't cheap. that's why you see so many ghetto R4s amd R5s (flowerpot shaped heads) in the rebelion
>>28345340
#BotLivesMatter
>>28345360
but otherwise im saying that what's modern in their universe could very well be equivalent to our wacky cold war military designs in practicality
>>28345280
>>28345321
Thats JJ A you mugs
>>28345348
>Inspired
More like just another thing they stole from the EU
>>28345200
The classic T-65 looks sturdier, but i definitely like the updated version. The new ones seem to be about on par with the tie interceptor. Dont know much about its loadout or defenses though. I also dont know if that anti personnel turret would get enough use to justify its weight, neat idea though.
>>28345382
>More like just another thing they stole from the EU
You do know that that image was pre production for a new hope right? If anything they just took the original x-wing design.
>>28345382
>thinks that's from the EU
>not from the damned first storyboards of Ep4
You're one of those people who wanted this
>>28345200
x and z axis don't exist in any kind of realistic way/10
>B-but muh space future/past magic
Nah, you can't make the maneuvers that Po was making in the movie. Just no. JJA either doesn't understand the principals of flight, or some art major was put in charge of the cgi.
>Also the relative size of the spacecraft changes rapidly when compared to 'fixed' points.
e.g. the power compensator base thing was fucking massive on the outside, but suddenly the inner room is small as fuck when acemcfakeflying takes his craft inside. Despite having light pouring in from the outside. And all this, yet being able to see the building from fucking space. That 'planet base' must be tiny as fuck. Really? The fuck, man?
They fucked it up, man. They just fucked it up. Maybe having flown Earth airplanes is messing with my concept of a transatmospheric fighter.
All in all,
>craft 6/10
>movie 7/10 because I like pretty colors
>>28345321
If he is an engineer he should at least be wearing a fucking helmet!
>>28345200
>sci fi bullshit
wtf is this doing on /k/?
>>28345200
The old one is an F-15. Literally perfect.
The new one is an F-35. Over-engineered piece of shit.
Are those supposed to be turbines?
>>28345811
It's a weapon. Albeit a make-believe weapon, but it's still a weapon. So there.
Is the ark of the covenant /k/-related?
It killed those Nazis in Raiders pretty well.
>>28345846
Lucas has admitted he likes how airplane turbines look and incorporates them a lot. You can practically identify the different engines he used during the podracing in Ep1.
As for how it works in space, who the fuck cares its star wars.
>>28345870
only against goyim
looking from the top you see that the wings are different as well.
When the older X Wings folded their wings together they were both full profile, and they closed against eachother.
The new Xwing is different. The bottom wings only make up the front of the combined wing while the top wings make up the rear. When they fold together they complete eachother and for one larger wing.
You can see it in the OP too, look at the thicknesses of each wing
>>28345200
Looks like a Headhunter
>>28345824
we can assume it is better.
looking at the two their atleast the same, capability wise
>>28345737
uh yeah, no one is saying its a super massive planet.
and he is flying a fucking spaceship within a building, obviously he can get to the other side pretty fast.
You make it seem like he was flying in a walmart. If that building was the size of New York City he would still be able to circle the whole thing in under a minute, because its a fucking spaceship
>>28346709
Headhunter only had 2 blaster cannons and no s-foils, as I recall.
>everyone can just hyperspace jump to and from where ever the fuck in this new film
What the fuck? Hell, how is any base not in a constant state of defending itself if ships can jump whereever the fuck they want? Why aren't TIE Advanced's just jumping into Resistance assholes all the damned time?
Fuck, if you can jump whenever, just use hyperjump capable missiles/bombs from now on. Fuck spaceships if you can jump all the fucking time to whereever the fuck.
>>28346759
the Z95T had the xfoils.
>>28345292
Star Trek is set when? 2200/2300 right?
the jetson said we would have sassy maid droids and flying briefcase cars by The Far Off Year of 2001! Back To The Future said we would have flying Foxbody Mustangs by 2015!
We will see if your overpowered universe comes to fruition in 200 years
>>28345286
Y-wings were already pushing their service life in the originals. Since this is basically Leia's private army she probably only went with X-wings because they're good enough at everything
>>28346759
The rear was more bulbous as well, protruding slightly higher than the cockpit.
Some were modified with X-wing style S-foils.
>>28346814
The Y-Wings were like F4s to use the F15 analogy for X-Wings earlier.
>>28346777
>space isis is founded
>brings back nukes
>puts nuke in small droids/ships with jump drives
>Radiation for everyone!
>>28346826
Y-wings are more like F-105s.
>>28346808
>We
>in 200 years
>>28346777
my biggest problem with star wars in general is their faster than light communication
>>28345737
No craft uses wind to fly in the Star Wars universe. It's all gravity fields and pure thrust. The "wings" on the x-wing are for its blasters, not so it can fly.
>>28346857
Any idea what purpose it serves to be able to fold and unfold?
>>28345737
It's Star Wars, man. The physics and/or scale have never made sense. Don't go all Neil deGrasse Tyson on a movie where a guy stops a "laser" blast with his mind. These movies were made because samurai duels and WW2 dogfights look cool in space, not to be works of speculative science fiction.
>>28346870
Heat diffusion in space. Because you're using the weapons they're generating more heat, so opening the foils adds more surface area for the radiators to work with.
>>28346777
>Fuck spaceships if you can jump all the fucking time to whereever the fuck.
There are RULES, JJ Abrams. Now you have ships jumping directly onto planet surfaces. What's next, teleportation? A wormhole brings Star Fleet into contact with the remnants of the Empire?
>>28346872
muh verisimilitude
>>28346808
Dude what are you talking about. Star Wars takes place in the past. Being this mad in a Tatooine Bantha breeding image board.
>>28346885
And is there anything to be gained by folding the wings? Otherwise why not just construct them with the wings permanently "open"?
>intakes cut in half
>still have fan blades
Autism triggered hard. Seem like they turned it into the f35 of the star wars universe too, didn't see any y-wings which was disappointing.
5/10, could be worse.
>>28346904
Landing would be difficult if the wingtips are lower than the length of the gear.
>>28346910
Where do you see fan blades?
>>28346889
I think we can all agree that Babylon 5 portrayed hyperspace travel the best.
>>28346889
I think it's a safety thing. Remember back in episode 4 when he commented about crashing into a star if you don't have the right coordinates?
>>28346855
and my biggest problem eith the new movie, aside from it being a mirror of a new hope, was the fact that all this shit took place in the same Solar system, pretty much. Fucking space gun shoots across the sky and you watch the core planets of the republic be destroyed.
Also when Han goes into hyperspace that noodle monster gets destroyed by the acceleration. So my question is why dosnt the hyperdrive rip itself out of a ship when it is sent into hyperspace? must be some strong bolts and shock absorbs throughout the entire ship. Why rnt the heroes heads caved in from the force of being pushed on by the backs of their seats? Chewbacca and Finn shouldve been thrown from their bed and turned into pudding against the back of the ship.
>not /k/ related
that being said Lambda class shuttles got no respect
>>28346932
Yes buy they didn't have LASER SWORDS!!!
FSHHSHSSHGHGHGHGG VOOMMMMMMMMM
>>28346918
You get a couple good head-on shots of the intakes in the movie and the fan blade are clearly still in the engine's, and also cut in half. Pic related isn't from the movie, but iirc was built as close as possible
>>28346858
what is the point of the Bwing? just heavy blaster everywhere?
>>28345340
Yeah they are just bots you shouldn't treat them like family, but if it gets hit, you lose some ship systems.
>>28346956
Capital ship engagement. B-wing is all the firepower of a capital ship on a small platform.
>>28346896
and im being angry at the dude who brought up Star Trek
>>28346956
to be the most bad ass design in the whole series
>>28346956
It was a bomber.
>whole wealth of EU ships
>decades of vidya
>lol no we need new Xwings that look slightly different and give the TIE fighter a paint job and mary sue bullshit
somewhere at disney a few years ago
>ok we're going to have finn du nuffin and pilot guy hijack a Tie fighter, fall into some wacky shenanigans, then explode to safety on bootleg tatooine
>um... Mr. Abrams, sir, the Tie fighter doesn't have a pressurized cockpit... those fucking nerds will throw a shitfit if we do that
>so they hijack one thats pressurized. and two seats. with the forward firing guns controlled by a guy facing backwards.
>...but sir couldn't we just have them wacky hijinks some pilots and steal thier suits. it'd be a handy homage to the original trilogy
>we need to see thier faces dumbass
>...well sir if you'd flip through these ship designs people recognise from countless on screen and video game adaptations we could find one for the sce...
>they
>hijack
>one
>thats
>pressurized
>...yes Mr. Abrams
>>28346954
Now I'm trying to think of a way to make that work...
>>28346978
>finn du nuffin
>>28346891
go watch star trek then
>>28346987
Heat diffusion is always a good bullshit reason for aerodynamic stuff on a spaceship. The blades aren't fanblades, they're for cooling. They don't spin.
>>28346954
for reference
>>28346996
But... Just use regular intakes...
>>28346978
You just inadvertently made a pretty good argument that JJ Abrams isn't a very good Jew. because a truly good merchant would use some of those other ship designs to sell a wider variety of toys later on.
>>28346855
I know in the old EU(Legends) they established that FTL communication was maintained with a network of Hyperspace transceivers and beamed signals from point to point. During the Clone Wars the CIS would destroy transceivers to cut off systems and only capital ships could support long range Hyperspace transmitters. Not anymore apparently.
>>28346889
That does irritate the shit out of me, in the original films Han mentions you can't rush a hyperspace jump because you come out to close to a gravity well and you'll be all across a few systems. JJ apparently decided that bit of lore was retarded and now you can jump an X-Wing right into a gravity well. Of course in Star Trek he introduced largely downside free teleportation that can cross lightyears and makes you wonder why anyone would ever bother building a spaceship again.
>>28346978
>Wanting anything from the EU
Movie is a worldwide hit, and a phenomenal success, deal with it.
>>28347007
yeah, clearly not fan blades at all, spergs go home
>>28346891
Personally I can't enjoy these trash movies until they finally settle how Chewbacca thermoregulates. We never see him panting like a dog, and his hands are covered in fur so he can't be sweating through his paws like a cat. Not one of these HACK directors have addressed this and it utterly destroys what would otherwise be perfectly enjoyable movies.
>>28346996
That works too.
...And is a lot more sane than my idea of having rotating metronome fans that spas out like dragonfly wings,
>>28347007
That shot reveals that they are not fan blades. Just filtered intakes or some shit.
>>28347007
Looks like a radiator to me.
>>28346956
To fuck up everyone's shit and come out alive.
>>28346978
Exactly how I pictured it.
>>28346976
Heavy fighter/attack craft. Y-wing were the only ones that carried proton bombs.
>>28347023
quiet down Jar Jar Abrams.
>>28347053
Those might have work against deathplanet's exchangers.
>>28346954
Maybe the blades spin one way till they hit the end of the track, pivot and then spin the other way. That'd still pull in air, right?
>>28346942
Do you understand relative velocity anon?
I'd imagine that when accelerating to super-luminary speeds whilst being dragged across the hull of a spaceship there's some friction involved.
If you can just jump, why do the ships even need normal kinetic engines anymore. Just strap a hyperdrive to your forehead.
Just jump, Abrams. This is what you wanted, right? Just jump. Jump around. Jump around.
>>28346996
they are not for cooling, atleast not in space.
Your idea is that they are wide mouthed to gulp air and keep the engines cool as it flys forward. In a vacuum that dosnt happen. The only way to diffuse heat in space is through radiation, and that takes fuckhuge pannels.
>>28346978
I actually liked the two-seater TIEs. And it isn't as though backseaters can't control weapons in fighters now, so I don't see an issue in being able to do so in a futuristic setting. Besides, off you'll recall, Finn also shot at missiles that were behind the TIE.
>>28347061
They were made to take down Star Destroyers, so yeah, they'd have done a better job than some X-wings with a few torpedoes.
So much lost opportunity there.
>>28347023
that was gonna happen regardless
Am I the only one that liked the new space-Higgins boats?
>>28347083
Must be a 360 turret gun control system then.
>>28347082
That isn't what I said at all. Metal blades radiate the heat outward away from the engine. I said nothing about sucking air.
>In a vacuum that dosnt happen. The only way to diffuse heat in space is through radiation, and that takes fuckhuge pannels.
No fucking shit? You can't suck the energy of a star and use it to shoot massive white privilage death beams at progressive planets either but...its star wars.
>>28347029
shits and pisses his heat away, kinda like a Vulutre. Thats why he carries his colostomy bag everywhere
>>28347107
The what?
>>28346978
>um... Mr. Abrams, sir, the Tie fighter doesn't have a pressurized cockpit... those fucking nerds will throw a shitfit if we do that
They've always played fast and loose with how space-y their space is. In Empire they walk around in the not-a-cave with some respirators while the creature's mouth is still open to hard vacuum. They also walk around outside Cloud City that's in the somehow breathable atmosphere of a gas giant. The TIE fighter not being pressurized or it even mattering at all is an EU invention.
>>28347104
Yeah, they could make a 2 hour video of the original series characters doing the 2-step and it'd still make more than Avatar.
>>28347119
You mean that bandoleer he's never seen without is actually a space colostomy bag?
>>28347122
The landing craft is what he is talking about.
>>28347075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZaz7OqyTHQ
>>28347070
why dosnt the antenna or other fragile shit on the exterio of the ship get ripped off aswell? And relatively, octomonster and the crew were going the same speed beofre the jump
>>28347119
But do you see it on screen? Shit like this is how you fully develop your world, it's screenwriting 101.
>>28346942
>Also when Han goes into hyperspace that noodle monster gets destroyed by the acceleration. So my question is why dosnt the hyperdrive rip itself out of a ship when it is sent into hyperspace? must be some strong bolts and shock absorbs throughout the entire ship. Why rnt the heroes heads caved in from the force of being pushed on by the backs of their seats? Chewbacca and Finn shouldve been thrown from their bed and turned into pudding against the back of the ship.
All ships within the Star Wars universe generate their own gravity in a small bubble. It's even stated in a book that x-wing pilots don't feel the same G forces an atmospheric pilot might experience on earth.
That alien probably had too much mass extending out of the Millenium Falcon's personal bubble.
>>28347075
in Theoretical Bullshit Fiction Physics 101 hyperdrives don't work particularly well near gravity wells, although this gets thrown out of the window when Han jumps straight into atmosphere.
Also energy i guess, maybe ships can only make so many jumps before refuelling, and also hyperdrives only have so many jumps before needing reconditioning.
>>28347110
I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's hanging under the cockpit.
>>28347122
The stormtrooper landing craft. It looks remarkably like the landing craft the allies used for D-Day.
>>28346942
>same Solar system
I was confused about this too, this map says otherwise and shows some distance to all the planets involved in TFA so I don't know what to believe.
>>28347118
that still dosnt explain why it would need a large opening at the front to radiate heat. especially one that is shielded in a huge cylinder that would only permit heat to radiate into the space that you are traveling into
>>28347007
I stand corrected.
>>28347146
no one that is normal gives a fuck about how a fur covered person sweats.
>>28347132
if they had just done that I'd have paid the extra for imax
>>28347157
Right.
The vidya had star destroyers modified with gravity well generators called interdictor class. You could hyperspace in but you couldn't leave.
The rebellion missions were usually to wreck the cruiser so that the fleet could jump away. The imperial missions were usually either destroy a trapped fleet or inspect ships passing through a shipping checkpoint, or just as the cruiser pulled them out of hyperspace.
Following, I guess you could Intentionally jump into a planet, must not away from it
>>28347107
I liked it but I wish the ramp dropping and the storm troopers disembarking was done quicker, to look more like an assault. It should have crashed down and started spewing out a wave of storm troopers within 2 seconds.
>>28347136
no, his colostomy bag is a colostomy bag
>>28347182
>>28347145
You'd assume ship engineers built everything on the ship to survive acceleration to above light speed. The monster isn't attached to the ship and inertia is still a thing even in vacuum, it's not too far out there to assume that the tony speed difference between the monster and the ship grows exponentially and the resulting friction between it and thr ship tears it apart.
Or it's just movie bullshit, like how the millenium falcon can decelerate from lightspeed in atmosphere and not disintegrate from air friction.
>>28347154
and the goo that is streaked off the windshield? to much mass Im guessing
>>28347217
always thought it had more to do with jumping directly into an atmosphere without shields/fuck huge heat shielding. IE bigger ships can, but smaller fighters can't.
>>28347248
Eh, don't know.
The games always had everything in space anyway.
>>28347167
im not a fan. I want a Phasma (rule of cool) but I cant justify buying a grey brick to get her.
>>28347168
nope, they are close enough she chunks of plent flying out into space. little further than our moon
>>28345200
Kind of dumb. There is a reason why Ralph McQuarrie's design was refined.
Also, I don't like the radical changes in weapons and armor. Despite new aircraft, the Air Force's most common fighter is the F-16. The Army still has vests with woodland camouflage on them.
>>28347287
The US hasn't be in a 30+ year war with an equal foe. For all we know there aren't any service worthy x-wings left.
>>28347237
the irony is that if they failed and crashed full bore into the planet, the mass of the millennium falcon going the speed of light would have impacted that planet with the energy of a fucking supernova.
they'd have wiped out the first order, Kylo Renn, and the super weapon and have saved the lives of the 50 odd unnamed resistance pilots who got an express ticket to hell fighting those base defenses.
>>28347312
Allahu ackbar!
>>28347312
Makes you wonder why they need to bother with superweapons when they could simply attach a hyperdrive to a giant hunk of metal and zap it at a planet .
>>28347329
Because then there wouldn't be any movies.
>>28347336
There would still be movies, but this is the third time where the climax was 'blow up big superweapon'. It has to stop.
>>28347336
>No spy thriller Star Wars based around MAD
Why live?
>>28347329
>muh lasers
GIVE ME FUCKING RAILGUNS AND COILGUNS IN SCIFI ALREADY
jeez
i just want some bullshit faster than light kinetic weapon to stoke my nerd boner
>>28347354
>There would still be movies
You really ought to think about what you want to say for a couple of seconds before you type them out and hit POST
>>28347378
But it's more fun this way.
>>28347362
>the Imperial Navy have developed a ship that can stay in hyperspace indefinitely
>it can deploy its weapons back into realspace without dropping out of hyperspace
>the Captain and his XOs decide to defect to the Republic
>a plucky Force sensitive rebel can track the new ship but doesn't know its intentions
>an entire fleet of Star Destroyers is also loose in Republic space
...you know the rest
Prototype a best.
>>28347329
>yfw the First Order should have been known as the resistance because they were resisting a new republic.
The good guys shouldve been the first order. a group of elite dude who go around finnishing off the remains of the Empire.
The bad guys couldve still destroyed a few planets in the film, but instead of AMOTHEE space lazer, they couldve been traveling to, and recovering half dead Star Destoryers left over from the war, and firing them at planets. This wouldve given them a justifiable reason to be around Jakku. With all the dead ships planet side we can assime there mustbe some wreckages still floating in space.
There, I fixed the whole movie.
Only dumb thing is the half turbines.
>>28347329
pretty sure the old canon hand waved something something you aren't really going light speed, just traveling that fast in a warp style 5th dimension something so you don't have the KE and aren't instantly liquefied from going 1/10000th of the speed of light. IE han talking about running into a star if you fuck up your hyperdrive calculations, but not that the fuckup would result in blowing up that star system by accident.
>>28347329
>>28347336
>>28347354
>>28347362
>episode 4 rewrite
>the conventional attack on the starkiller planet gets shrek'd in a big super cool space battle with capital ships
>orbital bombardment hasn't destroyed the shield
>all hope is lost
>han solo, who left in the millennium falcon because he's too old for this shit (homage to the first movie) comes back
>"get out of here kid, I've got this"
>what are you going to do recently adopted father figure
>the one thing I've never done... crash
>handshakes with chewey one last time
>turns on the hyperdrive
>accelerates to light speed right through the shield
>KE of an exploding sun.jpg
>the impenetrable shield contains it to vaporize the planet and super weapon until the generator gets vaporized too
>the rest of the energy destroys the first orders super badass massive fleet of star destroyers (instead of thier 2 in the movie)
>>28347432
typing in a shower with a wet screen = shit grammar
>>28347312
>the irony is that if they failed and crashed full bore into the planet, the mass of the millennium falcon going the speed of light would have impacted that planet with the energy of a fucking supernova.
Heh, good point.
>First Order doing it's thing, being bad guys. Looking for some good guys to crush.
>Hey, let's knock over this desert planet before any more Jesus types show up there.
>What's the place called? Dune? That's real fucking original. Begin bombardment.
>Sir, we're receiving a message.
>"I am a leg of the death tripod that will destroy our foes! One life for thousands, that is a good trade! Muad'Dib Akbar!"
>What the hell did any of that mean- OH SHIT!
>>28346978
I'm wishing they could have had some dialogue along the lines of, "C'mon, let's grab one!"
"Naw bro, those are single-seaters, no shields, with only fixed blasters, let's get that [super duper TIE] over there!"
*We* know its a spec ops TIE, but some casual out there is going to be left with the impression that TIEs have pressurized cabins and turrets.
>>28347440
they are traveling in our dimmension still, thats why stars streak across the windows when they accelerate and what killed the octomonster
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7euHCyk.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>28347173
True three dimensional combat has a very different set of demands than what the X-Wing looks like it was designed for, it was just never a very practical spacecraft to begin with.
>>28347157
>he cant jump into a planets atmosphere
laughtingtoasters.jpg
>>28347429
Sean Connery as imperial captain when?
>>28347470
Reminds me of the Top Gear car chase.
>Turn off the traction control.
>How?
>You have to hold it down for ten seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqPPZw2p5U
>>28347432
this would have been an infinitely superior movie
>have the new republic
>have multiple imperial remnants with a big one in a tentative peace with the republic due to neither side having resources to no end up in another 50 year long galactic civil war
>focus on a smaller rogue imperial remnant of super nazis (like in this movie)
>they are admiral ackbaring old star destroyers into republic held worlds
tone down the real physics of something that big at light speed releasing the energy of dozens of supernovas to just destroying a/part of a planet
>they want to make the current cold war go hot
>the republics finest team of crack pilots/spies have to stop them
>pick up our heros along the way
>find out which planet the imperial rebels are on
>thing has a fuckhuge sheild generator that protects them from aloha snackbaring and orbital bombardment
>they actually have a pretty fucking massive fleet
>biggest JJ abramsyest lensflariest space battle in star wars (until the next movie) to make that Imax 3D ticket worth it
meanwhile
>heroes infiltrate
>get shield generator down
>typical starwars stuff for rest of movie
>good guys win
>but the sith are still out there, see us next time in Star Whores 8: the quest for more money
>>28346946
Lambda class looked classy as fuck. don't like the look of the new shuttle
>>28347568
>>biggest JJ abramsyest lensflariest space battle in star wars (until the next movie) to make that Imax 3D ticket worth it
Holy shit this, how did the Star Trek reboot end up with a better directed space battle than fucking Star Wars?
>>28347362
>No spy thriller
Think again
>>28347612
>another womyn do everything better movie
>called 'rogue one' even though rogue squadron wasn't founded till after A New Hope ended.
>>28347470
>reference original trilogy by having a quick scene of finndu and unmemorable pilot guy knocking out some imperial pilots
>walk through hangar
>flycasual.jpg
>finn- "get in!"
>"thats an unpressurized single seater TIE. how don't you know this, you fucking work here!" whisper yelling
works with the fact that finn is a fucking sanitation worker and doesn't know jackshit besides shooting blasters and cleaning toilets
>we need that one
wide shot of the hottest toy of the 2015 christmas season, some cool looking shit like a TIE interceptor/avenger/defender/advanced x2 in first order white
>get out of the hangar
>finn- "what are you doing why are you heading to jakku we need to escape the system!"
>imperial fighters don't have hyperdrives genius and I've got an old friend to find
>finn- "le black man whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!"
>dog fighting
>get rek'd
>movie continues
>>28347703
>unmemorable pilot guy
Jesus, if there was one thing that redeemed the movie it would be him. Your opinions on movies would be more credible if you admitted there were a couple good things to a movie you otherwise hated.
>>28347728
>Your opinions on movies would be more credible if you admitted there were a couple good things to a movie you otherwise hated.
There was nothing well executed about Poe Dameron's character other than who was cast for the role.
>>28347744
this
Poe was a wasted character but a good concept. Since they wrote finn into a corner as a feckless coward whose brief usefulness (knowledge of the now destroyed first order base) has ran it's course and Poe has been relegated to wedge antilles in a leather jacket, I'm not sure what direction they can even go in movie 8.
>>28347728
see above. they made him wedge antilles, not the new han solo. whether inadvertent or no, his character wasn't written to put him in a leadership role
>even though they'll probably exposition dump about how much of a l33t commando oper8or he is, please ignore the fact that he was just "the guy who flies who isn't that chick... no the other one. yeah he blew up the thing." in the last movie.
>>28347823
You act like TFA is a one-off movie and we will never see any of the characters again.
>>28347612
isn't the sitting guy on the right the puerto rican detective from law and order?
>>28347007
>using the torpedo tube as a step
WTF
>>28347894
Are you talking about Donnie Yen?
>>28346971
This.
It was like a PT boat, carrying the firepower of a cruiser in a tiny package.
>>28347912
Why not? Now you don't have to design a step
>>28347867
>character development (or lack thereof) doesn't matter!
>pacing doesn't matter!
star wars is a blank check to make infinite money but that doesn't mean you can't also make them be good movies.
>>28347942
So you're saying ANH is just as shitty as TFA? Because by the end of ANH you know about the same or even less about the characters than you do in TFA. Full character development happened over the span of the entire trilogy, both for the original and prequels and this new one will be the same.
>>28347064
i don't think so
think of a fan
one side is pulling in air and the other side is blowing it out
>>28347369
The Mass Effect games are all about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCoHT_cHPzY
>>28348011
>poe having any character development in TFA
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"I'm pilot man, here's my jacket" isn't well paced character development m8.
>>28348057
They're also about as sci-fi as harry potter is fantasy.
>>28347922
That's Donnie Yen?! My interest in this project just increased about a thousand-fold.
>>28345280
Thats the director with the set piece, notice the pickup trucks.
>>28348106
They're space opera, Bioware never said they weren't.
>>28347312
>>28347329
You don't travel FTL in normal space in Star Wars. Hyperspace is closer to wormhole travel.
>>28348343
not according to Jar Jar abrams script ;^)
>>28348343
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperdrive
>The hyperdrive was a propulsion system that allowed a starship to jump to light-speed and enter hyperspace.
Follow the link to the hyperspace page
>Hyperspace was a dimension of space-time that could only be reached by travelling at lightspeed or faster
So how come the millennium falcon had a "fuel pump" installed? Do starships use some sort of liquid fuel or what?
>>28348438
Because JJ can't into technobabble. In Ep4 Han spit out a ton of stuff about flying in hyperspace and how it wasn't as simple as flipping a switch.
>>28348438
Yes they require fuel, the specifics of which I have no clue. Larger ships have their own fuckhuge reactors.
>>28348383
Yeah, FTL travel in Star Wars is a two-step process. First you get to lightspeed then you go into hyperspace. Hyperspace itself is described in the next sentence of the hyperspace article as:
>By entering hyperspace, a starship could take advantage of the wrinkles in the fabric of realspace to reduce journey time significantly, "jumping" from a specific point to another point without having to travel directly between them.
>>28348505
And Hyperspace mandates the ability to travel FTL to begin with
Anyone else shocked to see missiles that actually track a target during a battle? Is there some sort of plot armor for making missiles less frequent or are are they used in the non-movie sources more readily?
>>28346858
didn't this get changed for the x-wing games? the falcon is 105 mglt, y-wing is 80, B-wing is 91, A-wing is 120 and Tie Interceptor is 110.
>>28348523
Just the ability to reach lightspeed. Hyperspace travel involves using Goes Fast to make a shortcut without that pesky time dilation.
>>28348524
werent there already proton torpedoes and shit that could track targets
>>28348541
Yes, to differentiate the ships more obviously. And I also assume to turn the Y-Wing missions into an exercise in tedium and frustration.
anyone wtf when han used the bowcaster for the first time (and the other times after that) with almost no recoil, when supposedly used by humans it has so much recoil it can break/dislocate/remove their arm?
>>28348524
The reason tracking missiles weren't used in the original trilogy much is because the dog-fighting was specifically designed to evoke world war II style battles
The games frequently give you missiles
>>28348559
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperdrive_motivator
>Without a functioning hyperdrive motivator, it was impossible for a starship to achieve lightspeed by entering hyperspace.
> achieve lightspeed by entering hyperspace.
> lightspeed by entering hyperspace.
>>28348597
In the Star Wars EU there is a character who had his head replaced by a turbolaser.
>>28348635
u wot
>>28347823
I felt awkward that they introduced Poe in the beginning of the film, and he was a likable, heroic, and charismatic guy. He smack talks the bad guy, puts up a decent fight against torture, tries his best in a bad situation to save the map data.
Then what happens? HE FUCKING DISAPPEARS FOR MOST OF THE MOVIE!
It feels like they did this to give Rey and Finn a run of the movie just because...SJW? I don't get it. It seems like they originally wrote the film to include more of Poe and focus on him and Rey, but instead they went the other direction. Finn felt like the clumsy house nigger they put in place of C-3P0
>>28348621
>The hyperdrive was a propulsion system that allowed a starship to jump to light-speed and enter hyperspace.
>>28346814
Muh B-Wing
>>28348641
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/D'harhan
>>28348597
Why would an energy weapon have any notable recoil?
Also it seems to be an updated model, the original trilogy one fired green lasers, now its red lasers
Even if it being too harsh for a human to handle was canon in the EU, the EU is now selectively canon
It was worth it for the scene IMO
>>28348648
so either way "You don't travel FTL in normal space in Star Wars" is wrong by whichever canon you use
Why do they need air-intakes if they are space ships?
>>28348666
If you're travelling in hyperspace you're not in normal space.
>>28348655
fund it!
>>28348660
idk, maybe the force of launching the plasma bolt out of the gun would cause some recoil, however that system is supposed to work. so if a regular blaster kills someone and has ~308 tier recoil, but a bowcaster blows troopers 20 feet in the air (and would likely pink mist them if it was rated r), its reasonable to think its recoil would be orders of magnitude heavier.
and that is true, but i figured the bolt color might have just been an oversight.
>>28348695
However you are still traveling faster than light in order to enter hyperspace.
>>28348660
because the bowcaster is a wookie weapon and pretty much fires a plasma covered tungsten dart. it doesn't use "gas" to make a recoilless plasma projectile like a normie blaster.
this is why kylo ren bleeds like a stuck pig after being gutshot instead of the typical laser burn.
>>28347007
>>28347912
>>28347937
Because it's a delicate mechanism that don't need no grunts stomping on it. Doesn't matter if it's made of durasteel or not if debris gets in the torpedo tube, if a burr or peen develops, knocking projectiles off course, or if some idiot hotshot gets his toe caught while falling, breaking his foot.
NO STEP
NO STEP
NO STEP
>>28346957
My ex had this but in a short dress, she was hot as fuck as well. Thanks for the feels man.
>>28348673
Because they're also capable of atmospheric flight.
>>28348747
r u retarded? they use anti gravity shit to move around, not any convential ways of flight like jet engines and areodynamics
>>28345200
Still no ventral visibility. Have fun getting bounced by TIEs from below
>>28347064
maybe a beltlike strukture, in which the blades do a quarter or half rotation whilst switching direction
>>28345200
Do tie fighters have life support now?
>>28348762
>ventral visibility
They got sensors out the wazoo for that senpai.
>>28348775
Only for black pilots because they refused to wear the flight suit because they were racist.
>>28346870
Spreading out the pattern of fire for more of a shotgun effect?
>>28345200
>Big intakes
>In space
One of you nerds explain this to me.
>>28348780
HAHAHA NIGGERS AM I RIGHT HAHAHA FUCK DA JOOS THE FEMINIST KEKS HAIL HITLER
>>28348789
They're radiators
>>28348795
It's a school night, go to sleep.
/k/-wing when?
>>28348862
this thing has a huge blindspott for having that many articulated lasers
>>28348803
>Radiators
>In space
Ugh, why would you need fins and such to lose heat in space when the only way to lose heat in space is with thermal radiation, and an efficient design would be some wide flat panels.
I think the most logical answer is that George Lucas and his props crew were scientifically illiterate retards and there's actually very little sci in this fi.
>>28348741
To be fair, proton torpedoes can course correct. Plus, it looks like he's not stepping inside the actual tube, but a cutout that's inside the cutout for the torp tube... I'm not certain, hard to tell.
>>28348935
>because they never fly in atmosphere
>>28348935
Even the space station has radiators.
>>28346904
Aside from what other anon said about landing being an issue, presenting less of a profile to get shot is usually nice. Someone behind and above or below an x-wing with foils closed gets less area to shoot at than if that x-wing has foils open.
>>28348935
>there's actually very little sci in this fi.
Did you miss the part where Star Wars isn't true Sci-fi but Space Opera? The way shit works was never important to the films.
>>28348897
It also appears to have no cockpit.
Drop the rear central engine down in parallel with the others, put the dorsal laser turret back there where the engine used to be, no more blind spots.
>>28348981
I think having vessels emerge from hyperspace NEXT TO THE FUCKING GROUND is a little too space-opery for me. There is a such thing as Internal Consistency, y'know.
Another reason not to give Hollyweird any of my money.
>>28346974
You mean K-wing. K-wing is the most badass
>>28348935
>I think the most logical answer is that George Lucas and his props crew were scientifically illiterate retards and there's actually very little sci in this fi.
You must have missed the bit where there are fucking wizards and space ghosts running about
Lucas and the other world builders weren't scientifically retarded, they deliberately went with a very soft science fiction approach
Star wars isn't really science fiction, its a pulp story mixed with westerns
>>28349007
It's typical JJ not giving a shit about sci fi rules. In the ST reboot he 'invented' transporting in warp, which effectively invalidates the entire franchise (why send ships if you can do that?). SW it seems he wished to make hyperspace the biggest plothole instead of 'that thing they do to get places or run away.'
>>28348935
>star wars
>sc-fi
you stupid nigger it's been fantasy from the very start, there is zero scientific basis for anything in the SW Universe.
>>28348935
Are you talking about the same franchise that has actual magical powers and fucking ghosts in it? Like, did your autism somehow make you glaze over that bit?
>>28348992
Maybe it has two separate cockpits? Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Picture is the model Fantasy Flight produced for their game.
>>28348935
You know how boring a true science fiction space battle would be? Engagements would happen thousands of kilometers away and ships basically using ECM and ECCM on each other until one of them either manages to have a firing solution or they both overheat and run away.
Space fights, real ones, would be more about waving your cock around and hoping the other side backs off. That is also considering both sides were equal footing and one didn't sneak up on the other, deliver a single, fatal blow, and fly away.
>>28346858
This chart is so wrong it's not funny.
>>28349103
That's an Industrial Light and Magic chart used as a reference when Return of the Jedi was being made.
>>28348957
Why would they need to dedicate engineering and payload to haul around huge turbine engines when they could use the same space magic propulsion they use in space?
Especially when atmospheric flight is probably far less important.
Please, don't make excuses for Lucas. He's a proven hack and fraud. The commercial success of the OT is only because all the other shit in the 1980s was just far worse (like Flash Gordon, ugh).
>>28347823
Don't worry. In tge next movie we'll find out finn is force sensitive
>>28349053
You copied a quarter of this post >>28349016 and then added the word "Autism" into it while posting memetale.
Are you happy you nigger?
>>28349163
It's a tripfag. Worthless shitposter by default.
>>28349146
Star Wars was directly inspired by the Flash Gordon of the 50's.
>>28349157
>mfw you're probably right because they need thier one black character
>mfw he'll be the black son of han solo because the disney comics already introduced "hans wife"
>a stronk independant woman of color who is a criminal but in a sassy way
>this will be jar jar cuckrams homage to the Luke/Leia sibling thing
>>28349163
>You copied a quarter
You're right man, the ghosts and magic are such a vague and obscure part of the franchise.
>Are you happy
You seem mad, so yeah. :^
>>28348524
In the 1970's most civilians would have no Idea about guided missiles.
>>28349163
You would have to be a special kind of retarded to NOT think of all the magic and ghost shit in star wars to counter someone sperging out over mechanical inconsistencies
>>28349101
No clips of the space battle, but the new show Expanse on Sci fi (I know, I know, but this is not shit) is or at least tries to be hard science...
Episode 4 had a frigate engaging an unidentified corvette and gun boat escorts with long range torpedo engagements with anti missile defense gun batteries and then finally rail guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X5gXIQmY-E
Ok, I haven't even gotten through half the thread and everyone saying that First Order TIEs have no shields is rustling my jimmies, they have shields now!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/fo_space_superiority_fighter
>>28347217
Thanks to Rebels the Interdictor Class is now canon again with the same ability.
>>28345200
But, how can it be an X-wing if the wings don't X?
>>28349977
They do though.
>>28347506
Tie or ball or star furry is best. Star furry is still better than any other though.
>>28349977
Maybe try clicking on the pic for a closer look next time, retard?
>>28347506
Zakus are kind of cool, but the best mook/old or mobile suits were Leos.
>>28345200
ITS FUCKING BLUE AYYYY
