Do some guys actually do this? Why mount a optic on a removable carry handle?
>>28327150
Because you can still use the irons maybe
Slavshit did it best.
>>28327150
Unobstructed sight picture?
>>28327150
more natural eye position. probably magnified, and they usually have a peep sight so you can still use the irons for CQB.
For quick aimed shots its more comfy having an extra inch HOB. This is why scope risers exist.
>>28327150
Its a pretty smart way to mount an array of optics depending on what you need.
>>28327150
The base of the ACOG has a hole so you can still use the irons. Pretty smart if you ask me.
>>28327184
Pretty sure they make those for flattops
>>28327268
That hole does not work if you have an ARD. People that put their ACOG on a carry handle BUIS are morons. T1 ACOGs have a BUIS on top anyway.
>>28327268
Nigga, that's what that hole is for? I thought it was for dummy cord..
In all seriousness though, while it's a cool design I'm not a fan. Personally I don't like my optic being that high up.
Don't they make optics that are meant to be attached to the carry handle?
>>28327150
What's the picture from?
>>28327150
In case you want a spyglass that's not stuck to a rifle?
>>28328229
The 2008 Rambo, pretty good movie
>>28327869
a carry handle has two holes in the top for mounting optics since the 90's. you can get picatiny rail adapters and everything else.
the only downside t this setup is increased vertical profile.
Noguns here. How do optics like on this and on the famas even work if they're that high above the actual sights?
>>28328309
People glass targets with their rifles all the time. You put the stock above your shoulder to get your eye closer to the lens and just keep your finger away from the trigger.
>>28328369
The sights and the barrel aren't exactly parallel. You adjust them based on how far you expect to be shooting.
>>28328322
Fucking *2008th Rambo
>>28328309
how about YOU FUCKING HANG YOURSELF FUCKING RETARD
>>28327833
have you ever used the ACOG BUIS? They are completely worthless and 99% of all of them I have seen are broken off anyway.
>>28328387
Christ, this picture would be a lot better if the silhouettes were angled.
>>28328387
Makes sense. Thanks man.-
>>28327180
What this guy said...
or maybe they had a sale on the mount :)
>>28327150
Did this in the army when they had started using flat top guns but the armory still was stocked for the carry handle shit.
>>28327150
Because the front sigh is permanent and if he mounted that scope on the rail instead of the carrying handle he wouldn't be able to see over the front sight.
>>28328387
>that pic
>so wrong
Bullets arent like plane wings where they magically can provide lift for themselfs
>>28329518
Scale, m8.
Should've posted this one, I guess.
>>28327150
With short-range sights, it allows for more accurate shooting while mobile since you don't have to tilt your head to get a clear sight picture, but it's counterproductive without a VFG to make up for it, at least in theory...
>>28328387
Wait, so a combat rifle has more range than a sniper rifle?
>>28327150
That was the original way to mount Acogs.
>>28328387
>>28328432
>>28329518
>>28329576
fixed it for you
>>28330190
A "combat" rifle is zeroed for, generally, either 200 or 300 meters. The ACOG is zeroed for 100, with the bottom of the chevron being point of impact at 300M. Precision rifles are commonly zeroed for 100M, then dialed for exact distance, making point of impact the same as point of aim. The idea of the longer zero in combat rifles being that out to an okay distance you will hit +/- center of mass without much in the way of trajectory consideration. Point rifle receive effective hit, basically. Whereas the precision rifle is geared towards dialing for a specific point of impact.
>>28327150
>muh chin weld
on a serious note, that is clearly a movie, look at his finger wrapped around the trigger and his perfectly slicked back hair with no brain bucket or ear / eye pro.
this faggot would get fragged in a day if he were really in combat.
>>28330245
Here are some example images of sight picture when engaging a person sized target at 300m with an ACOG equipped rifle. Basically you put the chevron on their chest in most common engagement scenarios and you will hit them somewhere in the chest or upper abdomen.
>>28330345
Forgot picture. Will follow up with 100M engagement picture. The idea of the battle zero for "combat" rifles is that any idiot can put the reticle on the bad guy and hit him without having to remember ballistics for his weapon.
>>28330368
100M engagement sight picture. Very simple and facilitates combat accurate shots quickly.
>>28330390
Do soldiers get taught about the intricacies of trajectory and sight tweaking, or are they all given 300m zeroed carbines and told to not touch the scopes?
>>28330416
You can't zero an ACOG in the field.
>>28330416
Yes, infantry soldiers usually are imparted with a general understanding of their weapons' external ballistics. I went through U.S. Army Infantry OSUT in 2010 and we were educated on engaging targets out to 300m with our Aimpoint equipped M4's. Further training was done at my unit on utilizing the ACOG, including range estimation using the reticle (handy when the opportunity presents itself, you need the target to be facing you so you can line up his shoulders with the corresponding width reticle subtension). For general use the ACOG is a great optic.
>>28330416
You don't fuck with your optic's zero as a regular Joe. It is zeroed and you leave it alone, the idea of the reticle is that you don't dial anything, just hold the correct subtension on the target and shoot.
>>28327166
>Because you can still use the irons maybe
No. You cant
>>28327150
His hair is way to perfect to have seen any kind of combat
>>28330651
You can though, the mounts are hollow
>>28327150
>He don't even know
That was the only way to do it for a while.
>>28330442
Well, no. But you zero weapons consistently overseas and at least every 3 months in garrison.
Unless your unit is retarded like this guys
>>28330533
New joes get taught to zero. And if their team leader isn't teaching them they need to be relieved of being a team leader.
>>28331542
Actually, I reread his post. If he's saying 'after they zero they leave it alone' then he's right. If not, then I don't retract my post.
>>28330709
>flat top with removable handle
so close faggot
>>28330666
>satan doesn't gel his hair in combat
>>28329500
what mango?
>>28330698
This.
I made the mistake of getting one with a carry mount. Ended up replacing everything but the bcg.
>>28331567
Maybe he is operating in Poor-istan and cant get a rail attatchment point for it
>>28327166
>slavshit did it best
>slavshit covers wiggle like a motherfucker
>>28327150
Forget that, why does he have a scope below his barrel?!
>>28332536
sidemount retard
>>28327150
In an NBC environment its better to rise your optic so you can still use it while wearing a mask.
Strelok should know this.
>>28330709
80s kid coming through
Because fuck you
Pic related
>>28330698
Confirmed. Saw an A1 with one on it.
>>28332558
he is right bro slavshit mount suck ass.
>>28327150
because back in the good ole days, carry handles were not removeable. Maybe this guy dosnt have a rail mount for his optic?
>>28330651
youre a fucking retard
>>28331553
if the question is wether or not joes adjust their MOA depending on range or target, the answer is no. The Army does not got that on depth with any marksman aside from real deal snipers
