what's your poorfag excuse for not owning one of the coolest toys that you can use with your guns?
Seruously night vision is fun as fuck why aren't you on board yet?
>>28323043
>>28323043
I'm putting away some cash for a few months and waiting for a good deal to pop up.
Ain't got no monies holmes
Used to, but I used it to buy a car
I really should get a damned job already
>>28323104
You're not going to find many at all, OP
Have a scope. Isn't NV, obviously.
NV is lame and worthless unless its gen 3/4. You'd be better off just waiting ten minutes for your eyes to adjust with gen 2 and gen 1 gives you literal cancer.
If I didn't waste so much money on my useless collectors guns I would have some night vision.
>>28323139
>literal cancer
how?
Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!
>>28323043
>>28323153
Gen1 Russian NV optics give off alpha radiation.
>>28323043
I own 2 sets.
Only get around to using them a few times a year after the novelty wore off.
>>28323161
Go home Bane your drunk.
>>28323189
It is not I that is drunk but the state of human affairs that renders the illusion of liberty as a state of intoxication. You think that sobriety is your ally?
>>28323043
>electronics
>sustainability
Pick one.
>>28323043
I don't shoot at night
>>28323054
>>28323054
>>28323054
My money goes to guns and ammo, there is no room for anything else
ITT: broke motherfuckers with no lives
>>28324708
This. Not even allowed by law.
>>28323043
The novelty wore off after using them for work so much.
Also aren't 14s like the best you can get on the civilian market right now? I might think about it if you could find 15s at a good price; but I'd rather wait for a full/near moon and a clear night for going in the woods then spending the money on 14s.
Oh and being under NODs for extended periods of time at night makes you sleepy. Don't ask why, it just does.
>>28324812
is....it...because....you're wearing them at night and you're tired?
I get issued pvs-14s?
>>28323043
The only reason I've ever had to get nods is to bag a few coyotes at night, but that was one time, definitely not worth the cost of night vision stuff. Overall I don't accessorize my guns because I would rather have another gun than put a red dot or similar item on one of my rifles or pistols.
>>28323169
>alpha particles
Whoop de doo.
>>28323139
I can't disagree. I blew $400 a few years back on a gen 1 scope. It's... ok. I guess?
I mean I would gladly pay $99 for this thing but at $400 I feel like I got fucked somehow.
>>28324903
>Being okay with sending your eyes on a trip to Chernobyl every time you want to see in the dark
Suit yourself, friendo.
>>28325469
>A type of radiation that has difficulty passing through layers of skin.
Just because it's radiation doesn't mean it's lethally dangerous.
>>28325619
this.
You are technically radioactive.
>you give off body heat
>heat is thermal radiation
>you are radioactive
>>28325639
Shit, that explains why nobody wants to stay anywhere near me.
Because I spend my money on boats and fishing, not guns.
What the hell would I use NVGs for?
>>28325619
Thank fuck your eyeballs are made of the thickest skin on your body, right?
>>28323169
LOL alpha radiation is harmless unless inside the body. So unless you're gonna shove the nv tubes up your ass...
>>28325682
>Eyes are soft mucus membranes
>Alpha radiation directly into eyes
I think I'll pass.
because if i had 3k to blow i would buy a honda.
Currently running with an Armasight Vega gen1+ with an ir flood on my rifle, saving up money to either get a pvs-14 or if the PN-21k from wolf turns out to be any good I might get that.
I'm not a gear queer, and I don't shoot at night.
I'd rather spend that $3k-$5k on a nice custom handgun, Korth, Pardini, or rifle and ammo.
I have an ACH that mostly sits on display. I'd like to tacticool it; what is the preferable NOD/mount setup, as used by the HSLD tier one operators?
>>28323139
Pretty much this.
Spent lots of hours inna military training with NV, live fire at night etc. 1 gen is shit, 2 gen is meh, 3 gen is cool 4 gen is awesome.
>>28325711
>I think I'll pass
But couldn't you just put a extra plastic lense over the orignal lense? Can't be that hard and you will want to have something that protects against scratches anyway.
Not that it matters since 1 and 2 gen sucks ass anyway. Most time you are better of with just your ordinary night vision and hearing.
If you use a IR torch (which you need if you want to see) you will light up like fucking 4th of july for any one else with NV shit.
>>28326365
>no cig pack in the it aint me helmet
>no peace sign scribbled on with sharpie
lame
>>28324802
Depends on the state, in South Dakota I could go out and zap coyotes with a suppressor and a night vision scope. Just so long as I don't use artificial lights.
>>28326625
>it aint me
stop that shit
>>28326672
>not liking CPR
Shit taste detected.
>>28326602
An extra lense is exactly what the US Army did on their PVS-1/2/3 series of passive night vision scopes. They had a radiation absorbing ring and lense at the rear of the scope in case of damage to the NV Tube. For the most part US built Gen-1/2 is fairly free from radiation issues but also has the issue of being like all of it's type and being the size of the goddamn earth. I have a PVS-1 and PVS-2 and once you mount them on an AR it feels like one good hit and you'll snap the carrying handle off the receiver.
>>28326625
I have no excuse for lack of cigs, but I'll be damned if I deface my Mitchell cover with any scrawlings of sharpie
While we're on the subject, what could I do with a PASGT? I'm trying to give the helmets a bit of 'flavor', if you will. Any recommendations for items in the band/ other common changes? I think I'll put some SWD goggles around it
>>28325682
>unless you're gonna shove the nv tubes up your ass...
Where do you think we are?
>>28323054
Yeah...home renovations have been taking up most of my money since I ETS'd.
>>28326687
>CPR
You mean CCR, right?
>>28326696
My 1PN34 feels like if it were to be used as a weapon in close quarters, the gun would break first
>>28325648
>>28323043
>>28326581
Can civilians even get gen 4?
>>28326936
There is no such thing as Gen4 image intensifiers.
>>28323169
>Gen1
>alpha radiation
Not even close to the truth. Some Gen.0 units (both US and Soviet) can give off x-rays, but only while being run on a ridiculously high voltage (which will burn out the unit very quickly anyway).
The notion that Russian Gen.0/1 units produce x-rays under normal operation is a meme supposedly started by NVG manufacturers here in the US when cheap slav units were flooding into the US in the early 2000s.
>>28326581
>>28326602
>Gen.0/1/2 sucks
Them's fighting words, mia famiglia.
>>28326848
Very nice setup.
>>28326967
Yes there is, in a manner of speaking. Gen4 was the term used to describe some prototype tubeless NODs in the early 2000s. These never really went anywhere, but the term was co-opted to describe digital night vision technology which is also tubeless, though the technology is not remotely related.
>>28327161
No.
>>28327161
III+ is a thing and I'm waiting for the price to go down a bit. I've been waiting to buy some for 8 years now :( the prices do not decrease in time.
>>28326967
Something about gen 3.5..
>>28323043
I don't go outside and i use electric lights. Why would i need night vision
>>28327176
Hngg gen III omni IV
Good times. To bad i couldn't steal one without creating a bigger shitstorm then i would have caused if i stole a GPMG.
>>28325728
>IR flood
>perfectly illuminating yourself for cameraphones and security cameras
IR illumination night vision is so fucking dumb
>>28327252
>2000+15
>Not pointing IR floodlight straight at camera to blind it
It's almost as if you don't know how to operate
I do. They're fun but unless you live innawoods, pretty useless.
>>28327139
Someday I want to get a pair of 1PN63 or the PNV-57E. The 63 just has a certain charm to it and I've heard fairly good things about it and I've seen folks helmet mount the 57E and it appears to be fairly usable.
>>28323043
I already own it. Now I want a 2nd pvs14 for bino vision, or thermal.
Trying to get a local SWAT TL to put a class together on NV use, not just shooting but patrolling, movement, driving etc. but the biggest obstacle is finding people who both have NV and are willing to train with it.
>>28327288
1PN63 is okay, the unit sits on a giant frame that gets strapped to your face, though. If you don't set the frame up correctly or you get claustrophobic easily, you're not going to have a good time.
The PNV-57E is, IMO, the best NVG unit the Soviets devised. They're simple and easy to use while sporting beautiful image quality.
Performance-wise the PNV-57E and the 1PN63 are very similar.
>>28323043
>Because im not dumping three fucking grand on a decent one
>Because i'd only use it once in a blue moon
>Because a flashlight does the job just fine, its not like i'll be doing some operator bullshit unless the happening happens, and even then i could snag one from a pepsi fascist or a store or some shit
>Because I dont fucking need one
and dont give me any bullshit about home invasions, I leave the bathroom light on at night, plus there's the power light on my computer that burns with the intensity of a thousand suns. Also i have this handy dandy flashlight that has a strobelight mode, and i'd have no time to but on some NVGs anyway
>inb4 what a scrub; he doesn't even sleep with his NVGs on
all that being said if the good ones weren't so fucktardedly expensive I might be willing to splurge a bit for a pair. Or maybe a FLIR optic for shits 'n' gigs
>>28323043
I altered my camera to see infrared light because I have no monies
what do you guys think of this one? http://www.opticsplanet.com/armasight-opmod-pvs-14-gen-3-alpha-night-vision-monocular.html
>>28327275
I use the armasight vega as my entry level night patrol tool for coyote shooting and such, I spend a lot of time in the woods at night hiking with friends, I picked up a gen1+ to start with so I would be better informed when I had the money to buy a proper gen3+ that didn't need the ir flood all the time, that being said even the us military makes wide use of IR floods on their rifles from their PEQ when doing operations these days being that most recent conflicts involve engagements with groups that don't have any NODs at all.
>>28327423
Most well reviewed PVS-14 from good companies should be fine, just make sure it is autogated which that one appears to be, you may also want to make sure it comes bundled with a head mount or helmet mount if you want one, that being said wolf is about to start selling the PN-21K in the US which is the russian equivalent taking the same battery and having mostly the same features but has a metal body and could potentially be priced cheaper, most people that have had a chance to try them early and SHOT show and such have compared them favorably with the PVS-14, here is an article on all of the new Wolf optics being brought in.
http://www.thebangswitch.com/exclusive-new-optics-from-wolf/
>>28327139
Thanks. Next step is to build and register a can and go coyote hunting
>>28323114
I have one of these puppies coming in the mail now. What distance do you sight it in?
Also, how do you like it? It seems like its a good jack of all trades.
why?
the gov't's gonna give me one so i can fly at night.
Because while I might be a first class faggot I am also broke as fuck
>>28323043
So... what's a decent NVG goggle? How about sight? Along with a PEQ 15, how much does that run?
>>28331880
PVS-14 monocular is 3k-4k depending on who you get it from and what mounts it is bundled with, peq-15 will run about 1.3k but they will only sell you the version with the gimped ir iluminator but other than that the visible and non visible lasers are the same as milspec if I remember right.
>>28323043
I'm in college and don't even have enough money for a decent rifle, let alone a scope to mount on it, let alone a scope for it that's night vision.
Even funding my poorfag collection of a Ruger 10/22, a WASR, a CZ 75, and a Remington 870 is pushing it.
>>28326696
>steampunk as fuck
All that, just for 5.56.
>>28333823
>you will never be recondo
>>28323167
Ah yes the ol night eye trick. Second only to the spicy Keychain and anti-bee pills
>>28332279
Don't even buy a PEQ, get a DBAL. Cheaper and made out of metal
>>28335516
Yeah I would agree, have heard bad things about the civy peq ir iluminator, though a more economical solution would be to buy separate ir illuminator and laser but that would be heavier.
>>28323043
I'm trying nigga, I'm trying. I miss the guns and lasers in AFG, would Fuck shit up vs ones without it. That and hog hunting/night hunting. Get silencer, oh....heaven.
