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Any other retailers starting to pull this BS right now, or is Atlantic kicking off the start?
>>28277003
>shipping times may take longer due to high order volume
OP, loosen up the tin foil a tad
>>28277003
what bullshit? panic buyers increase order volumes. they are a cancer
sgammo too, according to them this current panic was initially harder on them than Sandy Hook. Though they're way more established now than they were back then, so it hit them subjectively harder.
Also this stuff has been up since ISIS took San Bernardino.
>almost christmas
>completely unrelated
>>28277003
>>28277003
>>28277003
they have had that up for like 3 weeks (or ever how long its been since the ISIS attack).
But to be fair, my rep for davidsons has told me they are struggling to maintain their inventory. about 2 weeks ago they sold 290 DMPS Oracles in 1 day, which was all of their stock.
No OP, keep adding to your tinfoil hat. Not like it's been like this since Black Friday and it's not like it's christmas or anything.
>>28277003
>mfw November 2016
Atlantic is bro as fuck, I believe him. If it were Classic posting that, maybe I'd think it's BS.
>>28277426
Plus there're numerous other reputable vendors basically saying the same thing.
>>28277003
Increasing ship times due to increased traffic volume is ok.
Increasing short term pricing is not
>>28277003
I haven't seen any yet, but doesn't surprise me. Companies that will make money due to panic trying to cause a panic.
>>28277709
It's plenty fine, it's called capitalism. Vendors can charge whatever the fuck they want, whenever they want. You have the freedom not to buy.
And the freedom to say it's bullshit and to tell others how I feel about it.
>>28277759
>not preparing for the hildabeast to take her mount
>>28277824
God I hope not.
But I am. I've got some extra ammo and a few lowers stocked away.
>>28277865
Why bother if you're just going to lose it all in a tragic boating accident?
I work for a shipping company. It's the busiest time of year. Your shit will be be shipped but because it's the holidays there's a lot of volume to be moved. Also don't forget that because of DOT rules delivery drivers can only work 60 hours a week max.
>>28278483
Get back to work, I have shit I ordered!
>>28278448
this pic is pure sex
sad, that it´s kinda small
>>28277003
Yeah...Im not seeing it. Last week I bought a G27. The fun store was empty and the price was MSRP ($640) which for MD (behind enemy limes...yes LIMES) is par for the course.
Also ammunitiontogo is selling 1000rnds of steel core 556 for 389.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED
>>28278741
AKs look better the more worn out they get.
>>28278741
>rusty ass piece of slav garbage
>sex
yeah okay
not to worry, trump is UNSTUMPABLE
buildin walls and guns for all
>>28277732
>You have the freedom not to buy.
More people should realize that
>>28277003
>>28277709
>>28277732
Whatchu mean? Economically speaking you can crunch the numbers and if you profit more from a price increase despite your volume drops it's OK. But, there's a principle that's broken and an inefficiency created whenever someone controls a market and forces prices up.
It drives people out of the market, and creates "Dead Weight Loss." So in that case it is not efficient in the economic sense to drive prices up.
You have to analyst and discover if there's a shortage before it's really ethical to raise prices.
>>28277003
This notice has been up since black friday
>>28278448
Why does this picture make my pee pee hard?
>>28278852
>I cry when my AR get's scratches on the brass deflector
>>28279007
Because you're a faggot son.
>>28278916
It's not about what's most efficient, it's about the rights of capital owners. Having 100+ separate AR manufacturers isn't efficient at all.
>>28279137
Economics dictate what you can or cannot do. They can raise prices to whatever they like but it has consequences in efficiency, profit margins, supply and demand. If they manipulate the market by lowering the supply in order to raise prices and profit on units more, that creates an inefficiency, and believe it or not, economics does concern itself with measuring and mitigating those.
Do you think gov. has no place in economies? Like we should allow every market to turn into a pure monopoly?
Or you should be allowed to create an inefficiency to maximize your profits? For some markets, like firearms the effect on the lives of the people isn't very important, but that exact scheme is what caused the Irish Famine, which killed millions.
>>28279210
>implying there's a natural convergence to monopolistic industries
Outside of local monopolies, or short stints, monopolies can't exist in a purely capitalistic system. They'll be out competed.
>>28277003
You must be buying you first gun, because that is definitely not the first time they've had that up there. Most ammo/firearms websites will have something similar as well.
>>28277003
WHAT new gun control? Nothing's been said, and barely been speculated, let alone discussed or passed.
Why would they say "new gun control" instead of "holiday surge" or something appropriate?
>>28279247
That's not true at all, in a pure Capitalist system if I have more money than you I can force my capital suppliers not to do business with you, and collude to fix prices within the industry maximizing my profits and creating barriers so high to you entering the industry that it's all but impossible for competition to enter.
The government is the only thing keeping the Sprint and T-Mobile competitive. AT&T and Verizon could merge at any time and become the only company offering that service and they could charge whatever they like.
>>28279289
Because they want the panic to start, they'll make massive profits if they do.
>>28279247
lol go back to class and find out what barriers to entry are.
>>28279319
Why wouldn't another firm with sufficient capital just invest, then out compete?
>>28279289
>WHAT new gun control?
OBAMA'S GONNA TAKE ALL THE GUNS!!!
>>28279508
Why enter with the intention of competing, and creating risk, when you could collude and maximize your profits?
They have been jewing up their Wasr prices
>>28280259
>>28280259
>>28280274
>>28280259
Mostly due to Century jewing. They raised the price on WASRs to make the Century C39 more attractive.
Online businesses, each day there are fewer you can trust. E-commerce is going to die from a mix of greed and incompetence.
>>28280310
I don't agree w/ you there, people change prices all the time for a variety of reasons. It is holiday season and all. To me, I think the people who run that website are just stupid
>due to increased order volume due to the threat
Massive run-on sentence, based on pure conjecture...
I'd say just let this be a lesson to you and all /k/ommandos to do your research before you make a major purchase, look for the best price.
>>28280168
Larger potential return.
>Shillary called out about gun gun control
>Tried to dodge question
>They kept pressing
She dropped the "assault style weapons" before talking about a no-fly list of all things.
There was absolutely no hardline panic worthy shit. The dems know they get nowhere on this gun control shit. They bluster on twitter post massacre but they know they can't get shit done.
>>28278916
lol i remember college econ
>>28278855
my fucking sides
>>28277003
Its December, everyone wants a gun because of San Bernadino, and the best way to get an American to buy something is to attempt to make it illegal.
Its the perfect storm to hit retailers.
>>28279298
That is a fallacies bro. Read The Road to Surfdom
>>28279008
>Not using velcro on your brass deflector on any gun.
>>28277003
>the threat of new gun control
Eh?
>>28281442
>giving a fuck
>>28281673
OBAMA TOOK ALL THE GUNS!!
>>28281695
>Doesn't want brass in best condition as possible for reloading
>>28281803
I'm actually confused though. What is all this I keep hearing about new gun control on various sites? Did something happen recently?
>>28281835
I pick up other people's brass at the range, and put them in Ziploc bags of 100 to sell at gun shows
I don't give two shits what the condition is.
I'll only save .300 BLK brass for myself
>>28281835
Having a low enough income that reloading is a valuable use of time.
>>28281835
You serious? If your brass deflector is damaging brass then you have bigger problems
>>28280295
>>28280291
Also Century has temporary pause on shipments to US (till some point in 2016) because they're under contract to meet massive order for someone in Syria - shit you not
>>28281878
Isn't that illegal?
Don't you look like a crazy hobo when taking the brass?
>>28282379
no, it's not illegal. no, you look like a reloader. most people just leave the brass on the ground because they can't be assed to pick it up/sell it/reload
it's like how some guys fix cars and some guys just bring them into the shop. the guy who fixes his cars saves on the labor so it comes out cheaper (but with more time sunk). it's like reloading vs buying factory ammo.
>>28282379
>>28282436
Be sure to ask before taking someone else's brass. It's still their property unless they leave or give you permission to have it. I've heard some violent stories on here about people taking someone else's brass when they didn't appreciate it.
>>28277003
This is bad.
>>28282379
And selling spent brass at Gunshows or wherever is completely legal. Selling reloaded ammunition without an FFL Class 7 however, is illegal. As long as anon isn't selling reloads he's fine.
>>28277076
It pains me that SG Ammo is saying that shit, but the ammo I want from them is more than just in stock, it went from quantity 6 for 1,000 rounds of 9mm 124 fmj to quantity 10.
>>28279289
a fleet that plane on this carrier.
>>28278916
a shortage isn't the only reason to drive up price you dumb cunt.
demand is another factor in pricing.
>>28280259
Century also builds WASRs with new parts kits now, not shitty old surplus rifles, and have stepped up their QC
That said there is no reason to buy a WASR above $500, when you can get a C39 or DDI of vastly superior quality
Although the WASRs are supposed to hold up to full auto quite well, if you plan on doing that
>>28279289
>>28282552
>>28282605
>c39
>superior quality
>Tfw bought a bunch of $500 psa builds
Oh buy can't wait to suddenly decide I don't like them anymore and regrettably sell them for a stout profit.
>>28282638
Have you even held one? Fit and finish is much nicer than the WASR, and there are lots of people with high roundcounts through them on the files
I'm not much of an AK guy, but have shot WASRs and the C39, and much preferred the feel of the C39.
Since when has gun control actually taken place in the past 20 years ?
>>28282703
Clintons AWB
There's some truth to this.
>go to LGS today
>shelves are fucking empty
>no, they're really, REALLY empty
>talk to owner, he says he can't keep anything in stock and most items are back-ordered right now
Out of the ~20 guns he had left, about 1/2 were on consignment. His only remaining stock were some 10/22s, a couple lever actions, and a few handguns. For reference, he's a small shop that usually has around 60 guns on display with more in the back.
>>28280951
If you say prisoner's dilemma I'm going to come shit in your mouth
>>28280951
>The Road to Surfdom
Sound radical, man.
>>28281838
Obama talked about using executive orders if Congress didn't do anything about Gitmo, and I guess people are assuming he'd try to do the same with guns.
It's not just panic buyers who already own six AKs and six ARs, what you're seeing now is actually mostly first time buyers buying those rifles. Guys, ask yourselves, would you rather have millions of first time buyers buying up every black rifle imaginable, or would you rather have a population who will never buy any of them and simply turn the other cheek when we finally have federal gun control thrown at us?
If you don't own a black rifle of some sort by now then you have no right to bitch. I bought my first one at 18, living on my own, making $7.50/hrs, recycling cans and bringing back scrap copper. Stag Model 1 for $1024 after taxes.
>>28277003
bro that happened like 2 weeks ago, and yeah it took 10 days to get my gun but i got it. A LOT of people buy from atlantic so whats the big deal
>>28282756
You obviously have not read the book yet. The is a chapter devoted to the misbelief that a free market will lead to monopolies
>>28277018
Fuck you nigger
>>28282578
You're the dumb cunt, lad. A shortage is caused when price doesn't match a rise in demand.
>>28282755
MY gun store has 40 fucking guns ahead of mine....2 weeks bare minimum for a simple Apex trigger job.
I'm stuck conceal carrying a hand cannon in the meantime.
>>28282755
Yep, and I've been taking advantage of it.
>tfw got $400 for a Tec 9 last week because he can sell it for $500-550 right now
>tfw expected to get $300 for it because I only paid $350 with 1000 rounds of ammo and three magazines; sold the other two magazines for $40 apiece.
I gotta take a .22 AR pistol today or tomorrow. I expect to push $500-600 for it and I only have $350 in the build, but I have to pay off two layaways.
>>28284063
Scrapping bro. Man the current prices on that shit suck, but I remember the good ole days.
>>28285507
Gotta start doing your own work bro. The only work I ever have my LGS do are removing barrels from actions.
>>28282769
The more you know!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4
>>28282654
>this is the future
>>28285943
>>28285953
>>28285958
>>28285966
>its happening again
>>28285973
>>28285979
>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>28285958
at my Walmart that sign only applies to .22lr. Everything else is nice and stocked up.
>>28282674
I held a new C39 and the top handguard was wobbling. Nah
>>28285973
>>28285988
>literally using cheaper than kikes
>>28279007
Because the pure will of your communist ancestors is raging to be sent forth against Fascist pigs, my boy!
>implying this just isn't a money grab
this happens at least three times a year, guys
>>28285953
>that guy's face at the bottom in the hat and coat
pretty much how i feel looking at that.
