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K/ommandos!
I'm seriously debating onna PTR 308 with the paddle release. I had the chance to play with one recently and fell in love with it.
Do you have any thoughts or opinions on it?
Inb4 heavy and bulky. I'm a big guy.
>PTR 308
Do you mean the PTR91 or the Century C308?
>>28263283
PTR 91.
I'm artarded but I've heard plenty of horror stories on the Century based guns. I had the pleasure of disassembling a C51 to find shit welds and a ground bolt face. mismatch rollers too.
Enjoy a semen demon.
>>28263301
>PTR 91.
They're good; get one.
>wanting to shoot a terrible heavy recoiling rifle that mangles and flings brass making reloading a chore.
To each their own, I guess. If PTR did a HK91 clone, I'd be much more interested in that. I'd also probably get their one in 7.62x39 or even an MP5 clone if they made it, but a G3 clone is just meh.
>>28263277
Get one of the Turk clones they are built on real HK machinery but more expensive
>>28263391
>heavy recouping
Are you a major pussy?
>>28263405
PTR has HK machinery too, m8
>>28263464
*recoiling
>>28263471
Do they have their training too?
>>28263476
It's sure as shit not light recoiling, you faggot. You don't need to prove anything to me, but the G3 is a shitty design.
>>28263487
For you
>>28263277
F-for me??
>>28263487
What makes the G3 a shitty design? Compared to an AR 308 or a Veypr 308?
G3 pattern seems fairly simple to maintain and strip. The trigger pack looked fairly easy to work with too. About all youd need is spare rollers.
To my plebian ass it looked like a decent tradeoff.
Then again I'm used to slavshit like the SKS and Nugget.
>>28263391
Atlantic Firearms has a bunch of HK pattern rifles.
I've seen one of the MP5 in 9mm. Very expensive. Was around 1100$ I think. They do have the HK pattern in 7.62x39 too.
>>28263549
It's okay for a service rifle, but as a sporting rifle it's totally shit. The roller delayed operation has sharp recoil that makes follow up shots difficult, it flings brass really far, it mangles your brass, it also shoots .308 which isn't cheap.
I mean, it's not a terrible awful useless design, but using a cheaper less powerful cartridge would make it a better design for the average Joe.
>>28263277
This may be the best GWG pic ever
>>28263727
I don't reload. So brass condition I don't mind of.
I can afford 308(I have a GI 1911 and 45 is even pricy at times.
Now I've seen poly furniture for them as well as wood. The one that I fired didn't seem all too terrible.
Just reloading and cocking it felt awkward because I'm used to the SKS.
If its reasonably accurate to 500m I think its good.
>>28263956
It's a clunky awkward rifle, but I guess since you're used to shooting shit, you like shit.
>>28263737
This acceptable too? I have tons of gwg..
>>28263961
Well..I'm a poorfag. As much as I like the AR the 308s are way out of my budget right now.
>>28263956
I used a G3 pattern rifle while doing my national service. As it was said before, it works well in the field and is easy to take care of. Was fairly pleasant to shoot, but the only think I had to compare it to back then was a Mosin.
Since then I'd say I would prefer a FAL if I went for a rifle of that era both as a fun boomstick and service rifle.
>>28263391
>If PTR did a HK91 clone
>>28263956
it is good. I wanted a M1A but ended up with a PTR and couldn't be happier, the only bad thing is that it's hard to shoot prone cause the HK slap gives me an erection
>>28263277
>>28263277
I bought one and the fucking thing sucked. It wouldn't strip rounds out of any mag and just smashed the fuck out of them (pic related). The front sight was canted, the welded-on rail was crooked, the thing was a fucking mess. It was the PTR91 A3R, Atlantics version.
Good looking gun, it was just a massive turd. Sold it and graduated to a SCAR and have a real battle rifle now.
>>28264339
here it is before I sold it. It was also heavy as shit. I sent it back to PTR to fix it and they lost it for about a month, then it turned up in Wisconsin somehow and sent it back to me. I sold it that day. Never again.
>>28264353
Couldn't even fire it, but you bought a steel 3 position lower, a sling, an expensive ass bipod, and some richfag magazines for it? Cool story.
>>28264313
Forgive me, I meant to say HK93
>>28263277
Source on the boner condoner?
>>28264339
>>28264353
same thing happens to me. sucks having to throw 50c rounds into the bush like 20 times a day.
>>28264353
Wow! You're either "cannon762", that sold this gun years ago saying it's totally not faulty, and now runs the spas12 project or you took this pic from the internet!
Fantastic!
>>28263971
Initiate dump please.
>>28264649
I wont judge.
>>28263277
>You now are aware her boobs look like a second pair of arms.
>>28264715
Don't forget to share too.
But I'm desu I'm really leaning to the PTR. If the recoil is manageable I think I might like it more.
>>28264729
Don't care. Would fuck anyway.
Pulse is optional.
>>28263391
Confirmed for never having shot one. My 5'2 girlfriend who hasn't lifted a weight in her life can handle this gun just fine. Ak's kick more than the ptr, faggot
>>28264630
Yes. They are awesome. Biggest bang for your buck under 1000 dollars imho. Kind of like the 1911 of rifles: big, fun to shoot, easy to tear down/clean, probably overpowered and pisses off ar fags (glock fags) because their shit is boring to shoot
>>28264809
Paddle mag release vs push button? The one I played with was a beater rental with the push button.
Other than the stiff as shit in winter spring on the charging handle,it felt pretty natural. Reloading with the push button didn't feel natural however.
>>28264835
I prefer tac latch to paddle or button. Its just so much easier to actuate
>>28264778
>Handle=shoot effectively, accurately, and quickly
G3s are meant for shitty conscripts and 3rd world retards. Like mosins.
>>28264422
Ordered all the parts when I ordered the gun. It's good to be employed.
once mine had a couple extremely light strikes in a row right after i serviced the internals; but I'll attribute that to my error, as it worked once i took it apart and put it back together again.
other than that, i haven't had a hickup in ~1000 rounds.
I like mine a lot, but it is a heavy beast.
>>28264863
I'll have to look into that.
>>28264885
Wat? I thought that's were AKs live. And FN Fals.
>>28264897
So I can use it to lift like I do with my nugget and bug out bag?
>>28264909
You say you want more girls with guns?
If that's what you want you better share too.
>>28264953
i was saying they had no trigger discipline
>>28264353
Still got that bipod by chance?
>>28264630
>Is the PTR a decent G3 pattern clone and is it worth the money?
For the money, yes. A real HK91 is usually in SCAR-tier pricing these days (and for that money the SCAR is a much better, modern rifle), and they're all at least 20 years old now.
>>28264748
>If the recoil is manageable
It is definitely manageable. I couldn't even feel it through my heavy parka. If you're a hungry skellington under 150# it might push you around a bit at first, but I think you could master it rather easily.
>>28264835
>Paddle mag release vs push button?
As of Jan 1st 2016 all PTR models will ship with the paddle release installed, so unless you're buying used it won't be an issue anymore.
>>28264885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5xxchODcJY
/r/-ing girls with AK rifles. Need something nice to print out and tape inside my AK ammo box.
>>28263277
I'd say get the C308, they're very competetive towards the PTR
>>28265306
Not too sure I like Century Firearms.
I had to disassemble a C53. Mismatched rollers, ground down bolt face,shit tier welds, and a barrel trunnion that was more crooked than the UKs teeth.
Not a single part had a serial number that matched either. Bolt was different than carrier etc. And Cabas wanted over 800$ for the worthless pos.
>>28263984
You can build basic bitch ar10s for about the price of a century abomination.
>>28265348
And you're saying it came that way from Century's factory?
That almost sounds like a bad bubba job.
>>28265366
Are you familiar with Century arms international? It's kind of their thing.
>>28265389
I've heard of all the horror stories, but I figured that was only throughout the 1990's, i've never had a problem with a Century made gun.
>>28265220
>Doesn't watch his own video showing that the G3 is less accurate, slower, and that she got a huge bruise from the G3.
>She talks about the recoil being terrible, the length being terrible, and this is all despite her being an experienced and competitive shooter.
>>28265408
I've heard rumors that they're getting their shit together here lately, but some of the things I've seen that have come from that place look like they just gave their employees parts kits, amphetamines, and a picture of the finished product and told them to crank them out as quickly as possible.
>Just got some feeler gauges to check the bolt gap on muh PTR
I'm beyond pissed this thing is having ejection issues. It's so damn fun to shoot with a bipod.
>>28265408
This was supposedly a new firearm from Century. Not used.
The welds were rusted. Crooked barrel tube. Sights canted. The magazine well wouldn't accept any of the mags it came with.
I could go on with this abortion. And I think I will. I hadn't even worked for Cabelas. I asked them what they would take. I told them I'd offer 200$ for it because I'd have to ship it to an HK gunsmith to have it repaired. That C53 was very unsafe to shoot.
After that the Cabelas in Buda TX stopped carrying C53s.
>>28265466
If you aren't confident in Century, then buy a FMP G3S or a real HK91.
They'll cost more, but they hold their value overtime, and the HK91 is the real deal.
>>28265418
Polenar Tactical? I've seen that video. But I have seen the PTR in their other videos with the men using it. It looks pretty manageable.
>>28265306
No they're not. They're century made guns. Spend the 300 more and buy a quality rifle. The c308 doesn't even have the diopter sights.
>>28265488
There are options in between century and an old HK91
My PTR is a quality firearm.
>>28265535
>My PTR is a quality firearm.
That's not true, pre-bans have always been higher quality, they're worth the extra $1,500 because they're guaranteed to work.
pre-ban > clone, always.
>>28265508
>I will never fuck this
>>28265597
It's the current year. If you want to pay $2500+ for a battle rifle guaranteed to work, you buy a SCAR 17S or an MR762.
>>28265655
Who said HK91s were $2500? They're $1500
>>28265597
But I wouldn't be able to afford that HK 91 at this moment.
Hence why the PTR looks like something I can use and abuse and when funds come I can get the 91. Its why I started the topic so we could discuss it. I figured it'd be a decent entry into an HK platform without breaking the bank too badly(because lets be honest, Century sucks)
>>28265634
Its ok Bro. I won't either. She is a suicide girl however.
>>28263405
>Spending $600+ more on a rifle from a direct supporter of ISIS that has the same features and build quality as a PTR.
Now that PTR has made their paddle standard, they are now the obvious choice for a G3 clone. They just came out with their Gi version with it and the F with the bull barrel is coming soon. It isn't 2005 anymore, PTRs are the best choice.
>>28265508
Still not nearly as nice as just shooting something in .223 or x39. The G3 is a relic. A more thoughtful M1A, but still has all the inherent flaws of a .308 battle rifle.
>>28265655
I find SCARs to be over rated..great weapon. Just over rated.
If I was going to spend that much I wouldn't object to an M14 EBR.
>>28265714
I plan on building several ARs in other calibers down the road. So I have the Super charged 22 and the retarded cousin of the 54r covered(good rounds still. Especially for shooting on the cheap still love em both)
But I think this time I really do want a full sized battle rifle.
>>28265768
>>28265743
You know you need to be 18 to post on this site, right?
>>28265790
I'm 24. Earlier anon asked me to dump my gwg.
Why do you ask? Fulton Armory makes a nice M14 that you can get in a scout or EBR chassis.
>>28265686
Well, I'm sorry I couldn't help then.
>>28265814
Oh, now I get it.
Your mother must be so proud of how independent you are. You are so exceptional. :^)
>>28265743
You'd rather buy a gun that shifts zero constantly tucked into a 15 pound chassis over something that was praised by guys over at Battlefield Las Vegas.
Alright.
>>28265827
Its fine.
I live down in Texas. I rarely see legit HK stuff. Most of them tend to clones or horribly over priced.
>>28265836
Well. My mom's a liberal she hates that I build guns and collect for fun. So I generally don't talk to her due to disagreements.
>>28265931
Wow, your dense.
>>28265893
Then enlighten me. What makes the M1A so bad? Other than obvious zero shifts if in an EBR chassis.
Because I'm down for learning.
Also. Never seen Battle for LA.
>>28265634
"No matter how hot she is... Someone, somewhere, is completely sick of dealing with her shit"
>>28265952
Indeed. But I admit I'm stupid. So that's the first part of the problem solved.
But hey lets be on topic.
>>28263277
Sauce or gtfo
>>28265952
His dense what?
>>28265954
http://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/
M1A enthusiasts that pour money into their build will skullfuck you if you touch the upper handguard. It's just not a weapon that's easily or cheaply accurized.
The EBR stocks are frankly unnecessary. Personally I don't think the collapsing stock and rails are enough to warrant the weight.
Battlefield is a range in NV with numerous machineguns. They deal with a ridiculous round count every week, you can read the guy's writeup on weapon maintenance and durability here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/677135_High_round_count_AR_M4_s__over_100_000_rounds__and_how_they_have_handled_on_our_range.html
tldr AR bolts and gas tubes need to be replaced, AK's crack near the rail mount, piston ARs are shit, SCARs are bulletproof.
>>28265983
Sauce is weak because I don't have it :/
>>28266036
Dude I fucking love big ole jubly tits tho. And guns of course
>>28266031
Interesting reads. Thanks for the lesson on the M1A seems like a pure range queen or safe bitch. Not something I would want in the field.
Scar is out of price range at the moment. But I'll definitely look into one down the road.
I would assume that the AR would out last an AK mostly due to the stampings. However what about the VZ08? Its a solid milled block but then again I imagine it's going to suffer in the long run anyways and die from whatever an SKS dies from at very high round counts.
I'd expect most guns to show problems at those round counts anyway. Its pretty much the entire reason why as much as id love an SVT I probably won't get one.
>>28266081
As do I. Very fun to watch when she shoots.
>>28266031
Should asked this in my other post but I forgot.
But what are some alternatives in the PTRs price range for a 308 caliber?
>>28266373
PA10
>>28266373
>what are some alternatives in the PTRs price range for a 308 caliber?
Used home-built FAL (lurk the "for sale" section of FALfiles) or build a .308AR/AR10.
>>28266413
Well I plan on building said AR10 down the road a bit. Especially once I get the tools. Don't quite have all of them since I moved to TX.
>>28266435
I've heard good and bad about the FAL. But sometimes I wonder if it's people using the wrong mags in the wrong receiver.
Care to educate me what makes FALs so special? There's a shop in Austin that has quite a few very nice ones(if on the expensive side)
>>28263471
>PTR has HK machinery too, m8
No it doesn't. PTR uses INDEP machinery.
>>28266614
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
And gents thanks for the answers. At least this seems a bit more honest than some of the forums. I've learned a fuck ton today.
>>28265983
http://theiaoh.com/hot-chicks-and-guns-mega-gallery-75-pics/
>>28266913
I will masturbate furiously to this.
>>28266614
It says on their website they use HK machines
>>28268148
>>28268148
>It says on their website they use HK machines
TOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLD
>>28265418
Are you retarded? She has like no experience with that rifle and she handled it very well on her first run with it. That should give credence the idea that if a lightweight ar toting pansy or a no guns babby wants to handle a hk pattern 308 he should be able to manage. People make it sound like its such an unwieldy large heavy recoiling rifle, newbs probably see themselves like the poor fucks who tested that .577 tyrannosaur round on youtube. Stop scaring the kids.
>>28266498
Maaan educate yoself. Lurk more.
>>28264466
The PTR93 exists senpaitachi
>>28270587
>The PTR93 exists
No it doesn't.
>>28263277
If you have the option to get a PTR 91 there's no reason not to. Hell if I would've known the glory that is the PTR when I was first getting into scurry asslat gunz I would've passed on my AR completely
>>28270617
Gonna nom your belly Mimi-chan.
>>28270174
But.
But.
I forgot about this place.
For like two or three years. So I'm forgetful. Forgive me?
>>28270619
Well you seem to like it,what made you like it more than the AR?
The one I rented at a range was pretty good(if a beater and used to shit. Very difficult to get the charging handle open and bolt pulled back). Anything I should know about it?
>>28266435
3 out of 4 of those guys look 16ish
