Does a Desert Eagle .50 Cal have any pros except stopping power (if you can hit your target)?
I feel like it's more of a fancy gadget than an actual usable gun.
>>28233334
Are you a huge fan of 80s and 90s action movies?
If yes, that's all the reason you need to get one.
>>28233340
I am, but then I'd rather have a Beretta 92F (Die Hard) instead of a Deagle.
1 off my friend
1 off
>>28233357
I know :(
>>28233334
>quads of qualified questioning speak
>>28233340
>trips of truth speak
>>28233334
Anyone knows what level of bydy armor will the FMJ pierce?
>>28233362
Holy fucking shit this level of new
Go back to reddit
>>28233362
fag
>>28233369
Doubtful it would go through any. That being said, its also doubtful anyone you hit wearing body armor would be able to move after hitting them, they would still require a trip to the ER to not die.
>>28233334
Also: this makes a good hunting pistol. Or a good personal protection pistol on bear country.
>>28233334
You've obviously never shot one, if you can handle .44 Mag or even some hotter .45ACP, you can handle a Desert Eagle.
>>28233384
But it will surely go thru the simple untershirt kevlar r-right?
>able to move after hitting them
The question is: Will he be able to shoot at me back?
If not, this could make decent car-gun for self-defence right?
>>28233391
Don't forget about the hot brass flying at your face, which you do not have to contend with if shooting a 1911 or .44 mag revolver
>>28233401
Imagine hitting your attacker in the chest with a sledge hammer. No penetration, but its doubtful they would be standing.
>to answer your question
I dont think they would be shooting back.
>Decent car gun
Anon if you have the money for this gun and a carry gun, then yes, by all means get it. If you dont habe disposable income like that, Id tell you to get a carry size pistol instead.
Cons:
Slow follow up shots
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
$2.50 (about) for every shot
If this was halo and you had to contend with 7ft tall aliens with shield generators to bring down, it would be a go to side arm.
This is not halo though so I'm at a loss for how practical a deagle is. Why did they even make it?
>>28233405
No it throws it fucking ridiculous distances to the side, get your pistol checked friendo. That is if you actually have one.
>>28233334
You can 1deag on eco rounds, although the r8 revolver may be better now due to its high movement accuracy for the normal shot, with the downsidw of being more expensive and having a higher skill requirement aftwr the nerf.
>>28233362
>>28233415
1.25 ish
>>28233415
The reason I asked about this is because Ive heard from my granpa who was a cop (in 50s, but still)
that if you and the criminal are both armed, it rarelly ends in a shootout...
I was thinking a big shiny slugthrower would be a great psychological deterent...
>>28233442
If you want a psychological deterrent, walk around with a cowboy hat and OC a big iron on your hip.
>>28233442
Most criminals have guns to intimidate unarmed people, they are mostly actually cowards who won't pull the trigger.
>>28233448
Tell that to the projects.
>>28233415
tinnitus?
>>28233405
I've been hit in the mouth with .45 brass from a Kimber. Still unsure just how, probably bounced off the thin walls of my spot at the range. I had powder on my face from it too.
>>28233421
Israel likes to make niche weaponry for fun.
>>28233334
You can swap calibers pretty easily. .44 and .50 are just barrel swaps. .357 is a bolt change.
>>28233445
"Big iron on his hiiiiiip..."
>>28233334
Hunting.
Handgun hunting and steel shillouette shooting, also remember seeing that Portugese GOE counter-terror unit actually uses all black ones in .357 magnum, and these guys are considered really good at their job, trained by SAS.
>>28233673
Also saw this when looking them up again.
>GOE's capabilities were put to the test in June, 1983, when Armenian commandos, using rented cars, invaded the residence of the Turkish ambassador and wounded a PSP officer who was part of the embassy's security team, holding the rest of the people there hostage. The Prime-Minister, Mario Soares, gave the green light to GOE to storm the building. Before this could be attempted, the terrorists accidentally blew themselves up, resulting in 5 dead terrorists.
>The terrorists accidentally blew themselves up, resulting in 5 dead terrorists.
>>28233421
For sillouette shooting and hunting. That is its purpose. And it is very good at those things. It is not a combat pistol. Anyone who thinks it is, is retarded.
>>28233362
Burn in hell
>>28233463
>meep... meep... meep...
>LAAANAAAAAAAAAA!
>>28233442
This is true. But if you are drawing a gun, its best to just use it.
>>28233448
No. They will shoot. Its just that as soon as there is resistance they flee.
>>28233463
Yes. I rented a Deagle a few years ago. It is loud
>>28233369
It will be stoppedby 3a, your chest will hurt real bad though, like real bad.
Its not a round designed to peirce .
>>28233415
Fuck yeah, the noise is unbearable. Same for 500 magnum.
>>28234144
This makes me wonder what armor you could put holes in with magnum calibers like .44 mag, .50 AE, and .500 Magnum if you actually custom made AP ammo, like THV style stuff for them.
>>28234858
I know .44 magnum has some fairly rare AP ammo made for it, with Arcane, SIB, and KTW, never heard of anyone doing the same for .50 AE.
>>28233445
Like a ruger vaquero in .45lc.
>>28233334
>heavy as shit
>too large for most holsters
>stock magazines have a history of not ejecting properly
>gun is expensive as fuck
>ammo is expensive as fuck and many stores don't even carry it
>recoil sucks
>supporting Israeli weapons manufacturers when you buy
It's a range toy and not even a fun one at that.
>>28233696
>accidentally
>no civilian casualties
I wouldn't worry about it Anon
>>28233377
>>28233381
>>28233436
>>28234021
But anons, check his sweet trips.
Every time there is a Desert eagle thread you can tell who actually owns one so easily, It seems like nobody knows shit about this gun.
>>28235327
I don't own one but I've used one before and I hated it.
The "holy shit it's so loud lmao look at the size of the hole XD" factor wears off really fast and all you're left with is a big uncomfortable carpal tunnel syndrome-inducing jewgun
>>28235327
[tips kippah]
>>28235390
Having glass wrists must suck, I've shot .40 that snapped more than a deagle
>>28235281
Well actually it killed two hostages, but I left that out because that's not as funny.
I always thought of it as a big game hunting pistol for people who don't like revolvers.
>>28235491
Who the fuck doesn't like revolvers
Trash taste desu
>>28235518
The people who post
>Revolvers are obsolete
So the tacticool kids club members.
>>28235529
Ah so no one important then
>>28233862
Silhouette. I won't go shooting with a deagle as a competitor. 300 whisper for targets up to 200m and 22 hornett for targets to 50, in a Thompson Contendor.
50 cal? Won't let you near my steel plates
>>28235557
There are other calibers you know...
>>28235746
But I'm pretty sure OP is interested in the famous 50cal Deagle.
And I did mention as a competitor?
I suppose though that you are welcome to do as you please, as long as you don't damage the target. I just find the idea a bit off. Why take a deagle to go Silhouette shooting? Worst I'd do is take the 357 Freedom Arms 5 shooter.
>>28233473
Desert eagle's association with isreal is extremely overblown. They were made there for a while, but they were designed in america, originally made in america, are now made in america again, and were always marketed mainly to americans.
>>28233344
>92f
>Diehard
>Lethal weapon
>Demolition man
>Beverly hills cop
Yep, Beretta beats eagle.
>muh wristbreaker recoil!
>muh flashbang flash and concussion!
They don't recoil that much and they don't spit that much light. People who say this have never fired one.
>>28233415
No louder than a .357 snubnose. Ammo can be had for 1 to 1.5.
I will never be able to own one of these, that's no fun.
>>28235049
But anon you can get them in .357 and .44 mag as well.
>>28235963
>law-enforcement-only
>semi auto rifle seeming to not even be an sbr
well fuck you too magnum research
Also the original Desert eagle prototype in .357 magnum, looks fucking weird.
>>28235390
Bitch please.
Work on your fundamentals and go back. In 50 AE this gun is mostly novel, in .357 and .44 this is nearly a marksmans pistol.
>>28236016
Neat
>>28236030
And what exactly makes 50ae less of a "marksmans pistol"?
>>28236080
Nothing really but statistically it's harder to put half inch boolits into a smaller grouping than it is to put slightly smaller boolits into.
>>28235863
The M9 is pretty much the Beretta.
Once they get around to the handgun replacement, expect the market to be full of milsurp M9s
>>28236095
groupings are measured from bullet hole centers, not edges
>>28235049
Dude supporting israel means dead tusken raiders.
>>28236191
>>28235049
>>supporting Israeli weapons manufacturers when you buy
they haven't been made over there in six years
>>28235049
>supporting Israeli weapons manufacturers when you buy
I'm not sure what you are trying to imply here, why wouldn't I support the manufacturer of kebab removal tools?
>>28236112
>inb4 fullsized high capacity assault pistols
>'Think of the children!, destroy surplus military Manslaughter-9 pistols!'
the DE was the gun the Agents used in the Matrix trilogy.
>>28235390
Bitch please, the recoil isn't bad as its hyped up to be. And I'm a manlet.
https://youtu.be/LfFRfZO-bGM
>>28233862
No a DEagle is good for home defense because an intruder hiding behind the fridge two houses down isn't going to shoot them self
>>28235557
The round isn't going to do anything to proper steel plates. Like other anons said there's no penetration capability for armor, so I'd think it would just leave a big mark on it.
>>28233696
GOE confirmed for psykers using mind control to make the terrorists fuck themselves.
>>28236235
Because the leftover kebab they can't finish gets sent to Europe and America
>>28233362
welcome newfriend
>>28233357
>1 off my friend
>1 off
Idiot.
>>28233333
Why won't the Deagle be chambered for .50 GI (12.7x33RB)? I haven't fired a Desert Eagle or .50GI before, but I heard the felt recoil and pressures are similar to that of .45ACP
>pic related, .50 GI to the left and .45 ACP to the right
>>28233377
>full house get
>>28236095
What the fuck are you talking about, son.
>>28237322
.50 GI is a gimmick...
Much more than .50 African Eliminator
>>28237633
How so?
>>28233334
.50 AE vs 44mag
>>28239525
On paper it's worse than .45 ACP.
but you know
50 CAL SNIPER
>>28233362
> I'm new and no one can stop me
>>28237633
Every goddamn time we have a post or thread about .50 AE some fag just has to say African Eliminator. Those under 18 (physically and mentally) GTFO
>>28233483
You would need different magazines, actually.
>>28233362
>>28236191
Funny but now sjws will have another "racist thing" to bitch about Star Wars
>>28234105
Can you put a silencer on the deagal?
>>28239656
If you can find one that will fit you will find one that hardly works.
>>28239616
>>28233334
It's a fuck huge gas operated hand cannon that is basically a carbine masquerading as a pistol. The current version, the MkXIX, is modular and can change calibers between .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .50AE by changing the barrel magazine, and for .357, the bolt.
Muzzle energy of .50AE from a six inch Desert Eagle is higher than 5.56 NATO from a twenty inch barrel and about equal to 7.62x39 from an eighteen inch barrel.
It's five pounds loaded, but you can basically carry the equivalent of an intermediate rifle concealed with the right carry gear if you want.
And it's a blast to shoot.
>>28233340
Arnold Schwarzenegger's gold Desert Eagle in Commando and later films was an early production .357 Magnum production prototype model.
Hot loaded .357 Magnum is about like shooting standard pressure 9mm out of a Beretta 92.
>>28233405
If you limp wrist a Deagle, it will toss brass in your face. If you don't, it will hurl empty cases ten feet over your right shoulder, where you discover nickel plated Speer cases disappear in gravel.
>>28239720
Why doesn't someone make a .50AE carbine?
Would .50AE be better out of a 16" barrel? Or would it lose energy because of the longer travel time.
>>28235963
>this is a compromise round for pistol sniping
>pistol
>sniping
kek
>>28236112
>expect the market to be full of milsurp M9
That are way past the point of being worn out, that is if they even want to put dangerous "military grade" weapons in the hands of the plebian public instead of just melting them down.
>>28233369
Apparently level II and level III plates will stop penetration. But you ain't gonna enjoy it.
https://youtu.be/0xi2B2VGBmI
https://youtu.be/e84kng73XaQ
>>28239780
there are plenty of 16" carbines in 9mm and .45 and no one complains about them losing velocity.
something as hot as .50AE won't slow down in the barrel
>>28233421
More or less because the 1970's and 80's saw several big bore automagnum pistols. There was the AMT Automag, The Wildey Survivor, the LAR Grizzly and the Desert Eagle.
All the rest used special snowflake proprietary ammo. The first Deagles used existing Magnum revolver cartridges, .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum.
Once the were established, they introduced the scaled up version, the current MkXIX model, in .50AE.
>>28233334
Hey, where's that other Alaska bro that has a .50 AE Deagle? I got something for ya that I stumbled upon at work.
>>28233415
If you want rapid follow up, switch to .44 Magnum. Recoil is equal to .45acp from a 1911 with 240 grain ammo motoring along at 1400 fps. Plus, one more round (8+1 vs 7+1).
>>28235327
Any questions? I'll try and answer.
>>28235518
I love revolvers. Generally, I like most guns.
>>28233362
I hope you die.
>>28240031
Were you running when you took that picture?
>>28239780
They did, actually. Tromix and Alexander Arms made 50AE AR-15s in the early 2000's. They used standard AR mags with a spacer. Supposedly Magpul Pmags work fine without any modification. Not sure what happened to Tromix, but Alexander Arms created .50 Beowulf and dropped .50AE from their chamberings.
Beyond that, .50AE AR-15s still get built from time to time and I've seen Marlin 1894 lever guns redone in .50AE.
>>28240218
IIRC Tony at Tromix just made a few for his personal collection or for personal friends. Most of their efforts went into .458 SOCOM development.
>>28240031
>>28240080
I heard that the 50's use to crack the slides, is that an issue any more?
I plan on getting a 44 mag one some day. Any advice?
>>28237322
.50GI is too short and too low pressure. The Deagle needs at least 35,000 psi of case pressure to properly run the gas system, and ideally the round needs to be close to the overall cartridge length of 1.6 inches to feed properly.
Two possible contenders for a double stacked Deagle would be .30 Carbine and 10mm Magnum.
>>28239636
Yeah, forgot that part.
>>28239650
HuurHUUUURRhuuuurr.
>>28240129
No, but I had a shit ton of coffee. Why?
>>28237322
Hey guys, do you think it would be possible to give .50 GI the .460 Rowland treatment and up the pressure to 40,000 PSI to attempt to get .50 AE performance out of a 1911/Glock 21?
>>28240354
That explains, just keep keeping on, nice deagle btw.
>>28240265
The slide cracking thing is a new one on me. I've also seen people say that the recoil spring assembly will break with hot .50AE. Nothing I can find about it.
As far as buying. If you don't plan on going to .50AE later, hunt down a MkVII .44 Magnum. They use the same frame and mags as the current guns but have a slimmer slide and barrel and weight about a pound less.
I.knew I was planning to upgrade, so I bought a MkXIX in .44 Magnum about 2008. In 2012 I got the .50 barrel and in 2013 I got the .357 Magnum barrel, mags and bolt.
>>28240425
Heh. Thanks. It's a lot of fun. The damned thing is a tack driver with all three barrels. I'm thinking about getting the ten inch barrels for .50AE and .44 Magnum.
>>28239692
Cute. Very cute. A select few persons do not represent a whole, btw.
>>28240455
Thanks based Deagle anon, I have had my 44 variant for almost a year now and the novelty hasn't worn off, I love the damn thing.
>>28240904
Fag
>>28239812
Nah that'd what encore's and VXR's are for
>>28239692
This belongs on b, not here
>>28240904
>persons
>>28240274
That sweet sweet 10mm mag. Too bad .30carbine wouldn't be worth it in that barrel length.
I'm never NOT going to want a 10mm or .45 super Jericho for a something more worthy of the name "baby eagle" even if the operating system is different
>>28240361
Maybe, but that would be a massive waste. .50GI had so much to give. Slightly heavier bullet weight but for what?
>>28233369
Test I saw indicated that level 3 (maybe even 3a) stopped on the last layer of armor, but did manage to leave a bowling ball size crater in the clay backing and launch about the vest 3 feet off the target stand.
>>28233401
Yes, this gun would be good for self defense against cars.
>>28235557
50 AE doesn't do anything to my 3/8th AR500 plates, even at relatively close distances (angled targets, JHP, about 20m).
It is pretty fun however to time followup shots to knock over the 45lb target and stand as though it were a bowling pin, and to find the jackets turned completely inside out below the target afterwards as well,
>>28239839
>Level III
You mean IIIA, there's a large difference. Not that it mattered in this case with level II even being enough.
>>28240426
Is is really worth getting the .357 components? For the cost of everything you're most of the way to a whole .357 revolver.
>>28236016
Would auction for Ian got one.
>>28240218
>Not sure what happened to Tromix
Tromix is still around, they make Saigas nowadays.
>>28242011
I thought so, but that's because I already had a .44 Magnum version with a .50AE barrel. The .357 Magnum components turn the gun into a plinker. Well, almost. Noise and muzzle flash are still impressive, but recoil is negligible.
Fun fact. All four of the factory .357 magazines I have are marked 9 rounds, but will take 10.
>>28233391
exactly
45super or 460 rowland is more of a handful
Now if you're talking about 460/500mag...
>>28235963
>requires full face shield to fire comfortably
Nah, I'll pass...
>>28236600
I've been on the Silhouette range most my life.
The biggest problem we have is deformation of the targets. From guys firong super hot loads / big calibre
Especially if you have to maintain over 500 targts.
>>28235295
>>28235295
back to /b/ with that dubs bullshit
>>28233362
>>28245656
I'd be far more worried about the bottlenecked calibers through shit like Encores and Contenders than I would anything that could be shot from a semi or revolver.
>3-4x the energy at 100y
>pointy jacketed bullet
I've shot a few travel matches with a 6.5TCU on ranges with iffy plates, and I've put holes in them at 200m when guys shooting nuclear .44mag and .357max loads weren't even denting them.
>do specialty long range match
>range uses cold rolled steel at 500m because [email protected]
>coupla guys with .308win/.307win/7-30Waters/7-30Ackley putting holes clear through it with their high-BC, 2600+fps, heavy OTM's
>>28235471
Actually 1 hostage (the diplomat's wife) and a cop were killed.
>>28235491
It's certainly capable of it, but the relatively short sight radius compared to most "made for hunting" revolvers and the short, fat round at modest velocities really puts it behind revolvers.
A .44mag with off-the-shelf midrange JSP's through one of the 7.5-9" barreled revolvers will have more energy at 100 yards, .454cas/.480ruger/either Smith magnum shit all over it. Then you get into the 10-14" barreled single shot pistols in full power rifle calibers (Contender handles up to .307win, .45-70, .500smith; Contender G2 and Encore handle up to .375H&H/.458Lott-basically anything with a rim diameter under .404Jeffrey, and are commonly chambered in shit like .308win, .300wm, etc).
>>28235963
I wonder why IWI/Magnum Research won't produce these.
If so many people complain about muh recoil, why not sell a carbine kit/make a dedicated carbine that fires African Eliminator?
>>28239616
afterlife express?
>>28233508
"And he's here to do some business with the big iron on his hip..."
>>28248893
"And the notches on his pistol, number 1 and 19 more..."
>>28248765
Guys wth contenders come to the range prepared for Silhouette. So they load up to the point of maximum accuracy, not maximum load. We've had guys go clear through the targets and would ask them to rather shoot at paper.
The problem isn't so much punching through the targets as it is warping them or breaking the feet of the targets. You wouldn't think it for free standing steel that falls, but yes, it happens a lot.
>>28239744
I'm assuming you mean shooting hot 357 out of a gun the size of a deagle feels like shooting a 9mm in a normal pistol? I guess I'm just hoping you don't think hot 357 (well, any .357) has lighter recoil than a 9
>>28233442
It might be like fallout though. When I see a raider with a gun I want he gets killed first!
>>28233466
>kimber
Well there's your problem.
If you find the thought that every single of your shekels is being used for the removal of Palestinians arousing, go for it OP.
>I sure do find that thought arrousing
>>28253204
No shit nigger. Ever heard of context clues?
I need my deagle brand deagle so I can fight off a team if frogs, armed with p90s, closing in on my position
>>28256124
>tfw I would be happy forever if I could just own an XM8
whats the shortest barrel version of the deagle you can buy?
im thinking a small conceal carry 4-5 shot version
>>28259402
Yeah closest you're going to get Is the MR Baby deagle. 45 loaded with .45 super. Kawai AF
>>28260645
okay this is airshit but this is what i saw on googles
jesus
>>28233362
