What exactly is the appeal of the ak in recent times?
With prices of ak's reaching all time highs of $600+ for the cheapest lowest quality variants, a similar priced ar can be bought with much higher quality and workmanship put into it. Another factor to consider is the availability of ammunition, which the ak market relies heavily on surplus and new production out of country. Meanwhile the ar platform has 223/556 produced right here in the states and almost any and all sporting goods store stock it.
>TL;DR why do people buy slavshit and defend an inferior product while in the same price range of other options?
>>28040638
>buying Amerishit
>not buying CZ 858
Fucking pleb.
>>28040638
>>28040638
>why do people buy slavshit and defend an inferior product while in the same price range of other options?
because i like slavshit.
>>28040638
Because not everyone has 1337 operator fantasies stemming from a superiority complex, and just want to enjoy some funs for the sake of fun
>>28040638
>the ak market relies heavily on surplus and new production out of country
>2015
>ever having a problem finding 7.62x39
>>28040638
Because people have something you might be unable to handle... Something someone like you might be unable to even become close to comprehending... These things are called...OPINIONS!
>cue dramatic music
Seriously though, some people like AK's over AR's. Despite the fact that AK's are heavier, tend to be less accurate, and aren't quite as big in the aftermarket area, some people desire them more. What I don't understand, is why people buy mini 14's. (Besides b& states of course)
>>28040667
5.56 availability is tons better than 7.62... There are only like 5 manufacturers that import 7.62 and most of them are shit... I hate my AK and I'm just biding my time until another price spike to dump it...
>>28040638
7.62x39 is roughly 20-25 a round where I live for plinking ammo.
223 is 22-30 per round for plinking ammo.
I picked the AK over the AR because I perfered the simplicity of the platform and All my friends had 7.62 rifles (SKS, AK etc) and we agreed to pool and bulk buy ammo.
They were more experienced with firearms than me, and I could get more by adopting the same platform.
>I didn't pick the AK the AK picked me.
>>28040682
why did you take off your trip?
>>28040682
Hillary 2016 will be the time
>>28040682
You don't even have an AK. If you did, you'd love it.
>>28040717
But I do...
>>28040759
Moar of the SVT plz
>BRB Vaseline
>>28040638
>What exactly is the appeal of the ak in recent times?
It's just an iconic looking gun that's easy to use and easy to clean. And aks have lots of neat little variations in style and caliber if you actually collect.
762 is way more fun to shoot IMO, 22 cals just don't do it for me quite as well unless I'm strictly shooting paper or distant steel. Also, anything brass case is a lot more spendy and keeps me from shooting my 556 rifle as often. But steel case is still pretty reasonable there.
>>28040682
>5.56 availability is tons better than 7.62...
Just stock up on what you like best. Except for more expensive hunting cartridges etc, I never understood anyone buying less than a few hundred rounds at a time, if not 1k+ every time.
If all ak food actually got banned for good, you bet your ass that local production would pick up where they left off within a year or two.
>>28040781
I actually don't have many photos on my phone... It's so long, it's hard to take photos of. The muzzle brake works wonders and it is pretty fun to shoot. Still like a 3-4moa gun though.
>>28040638
A $600 AR is probably going to give you more issues than a $600 AK.
That being said, it's not an either/or desicison. It is possible to have and like both.
I always thought people preferring Ak's was similar to people preferring cast iron cookware and home decore/ appliances, ya know?
>>28041017
What sort of issues could be expected from a factory complete cheapass AR?
What companies are the worst offenders?
Cuz I have been looking at a Windham AR or Building my own. (not the Carbon/Polymer shit)
>>28041073
Feed and ejection issues are not uncommon. I can't really say which company has the most problems though.
Agreed. You're not some hard boiled Taliban operating in mud shit for months.
>>28041110
You're not some SWAT entry team either.
That logic cuts both ways.
>>28041017
I've shot an M&P Sport with no issues.
>>28041086
Yeah because you have no idea what you're talking about
>>28041198
Grow the fuck up faggot. ARs have tighter tolerances. That causes more cycling issues. It doesn't mean ARs are bad.
>>28040638
Nice bait thread asshole.
>>28041073
the parts you need to shell out $$$ for are the
1. Barrel
2. BCG
3. Recoil spring/buffer
if you have good quality in those 3 parts your ar is almost guaranteed to not give you a problem, as long as the other parts are in spec.
>>28040674
My dad bought a mini cause, well, cause he's a closet fudd. In all honesty though for someone like him who rarely shoots at all, it's not a bad choice cause it's simple, reliable, and probably can go without cleaning and lubrication longer than an AR could
>>28040674
Aftermarket for AKs is picking up, albeit slowly. Magpul's furniture options actually look really nice in my opinion
>>28040682
>implying it matters when you can get thousands of rounds of glorious Golden Tiger for 24 cents a piece
>why is my opinion right and everyone else dum the thread
>>28041432
>mini 14 simple and reliable
Shiggy diggy
>>28041550
It's better than they used to be at least. It's honestly pretty fun to shoot.
>>28041067
cast iron cookware doesnt lose heat once its brought up to temp you aluminum cooking autistic faggot
>>28041576
Never argue with that
>>28041628
Hey, at any rate it's not my gun.
>>28040656
Same, I am not in any way saying it is better. I just prefer the utilitarian nature of these weapons.
Aks are proven to be more reliable and don't need to be cleaned. There's a reason they're so popular in shitty parts of the world....because they're cheap, reliable, and work for decades in sandnigger country where you don't ever clean shit.
I'll take time tested shit any day.
>>28040638
I wanted to be a special snowflake, because I wouldn't get as bored with a gun that takes lots of practice to hit something with and is fun.
You won't hear me in a konfession thread going "I hate shooting 'cause it's expensive but boring"
Same reason I like other milsurp, essentially. That and it had cheaper parts kits, and so I could spend my time getting to know every darn this about the rifle possible.
>>28040638
The real question is why on earth would you limit yourself to only one or the other? Get both!
>>28040638
AKs are awesome, especially since any gun I own or shoot is at a range
so tactile, much rugged, so ethereal
my poorfag AR feels like a loud noise making toy in comparison
>>28041692
but we arent uneducated sand niggers in the states, we try to be decent quality people with a standard of living. If you want o go wipe your ass with your bare hand them fondle your ak by all means go ahead
>>28041464
But I reload 223 for $0.16/round so shooting my AK is spend for me... Plus the 5 inch groups at 100 yards is pretty outputting...
>>28040759
>talks shit about the AK
>has an SVT
holy shit lmao dude you're gay
One major factor slavshit lovers forget about, If you ever need to replace a barrel goodluck doing that shit at home on the cheap. With a ar15 just a simple barrel holding device and barrel nut wrench will have you a new barrel in less than 30min and that includes headspacing
>>28041864
What's wrong with the SVT?
>>28041875
Its gay lmao
>>28040638
AR bubble burst
AKs got sanctioned
>>28040638
AR platform is unreliable, weak and overpriced.
>>28042199
is that why the best army in the world uses it?
TFW find the AK easier to operate due to being a lefty
How the fuck do I tac reload my colt.
Like I figured out an easy way to do the bolt release with my firing hand and how to do speed reloads but fuck tac reloads left-handed on an ar
>>28040638
I wish I can have an KBK AKM. I have heard they are pretty good. Sadly in my country there is no hope for that.
>>28042651
>KBK AKM
kbk akms, sorry.
>>28042668
Where are you from friend? Poland?
>>28040674
I bought a mini-14 tactical in 300BLK.
It was $680 out the door.
Show me another auto-adjusting gas piston rifle in 300BLK with a factory threaded barrel and I'll tell you I made a mistake.
Otherwise, let this be a lesson that there's very little that beats the mini-14 for price vs. performance plus convenience.
>>28042752
.300 blackout with a factory threaded barrel and self adjusting? That's actually pretty nice. Past that, in any other caliber, there's a rifle cheaper than it that is either more accurate or reliable, and sometimes even both.
>>28041875
>incredibly finicky gas system
>mags fall off on their own
I wish I had one, though. Sucks being Brazilian.
>>28043050
>>incredibly finicky gas system
You mean the Adjustable gas system that works like a charm?
>>mags fall off on their own
They really don't though, in use the rifles are supposed to be loaded via stripper clip and the mag release folded up.
Refer to pic.
>>28043050
>I literally know shit about the SVT: The post
>>28042810
Believe me I never imagined I would ever purchase a mini-14, but I decided that it was time to get into 300BLK because it's obviously here to stay and has a lot of favorable characteristics over 5.56. In my research I came across this vid, checked the price from my LGS and bought it over the phone that minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orqU4Fa2pOY
Frankly, it's the smartest gun purchase I've made from a finance vs. function standpoint besides grabbing a 10/22 takedown synthetic for $260.
I will absolutely be upgrading to a superior 300BLK system soon enough, but if you just want to get your feet wet in 300BLK's waters and don't subscribe to the caliber conversion camp (personally, a gun is a gun. want another caliber? buy another gun. can never have too many fully functional guns. hard to defend yourself with an upper.) then I really can't make a higher personal recommendation than the mini-14 tacticool.
I have both, but am slowly transition into the AR market. I use the AK to teach new shooters. Don't get me wrong they're both fun, just wish the AR didn't need a buffer tube compared to AK stock options.
>>28041875
Lots.
>>28043695
>buffer tube
build a gas piston AR then. damn.
>>28043709
Other than being a bitch to clean after shooting corrosive, I like it a lot more than my AK...
>>28041684
>utilitarian
>does nothing an AR cant do better
Wut?
>>28043798
THIS. AR has more utility due to being lighter and more comfortable.
>>28043789
It's dirty, it's not that reliable, it needs an extra pound or two, the furniture is prone to splitting, God help you with extra mags, and the Garand in general shits all over it. I'm not even shooting mine again until I reinforce the upper handguard with some brass pins to stop the splitting it has on both ends.
>>28043824
I haven't had those issues, but I've also only shot like 300 rounds through mine.
>>28043845
>my anecdote trumps your historical facts
No though.
>>28043845
I don't know how many rounds I've shot through mine. I'm just speaking from five years of owning one. I can't even let the fact I plopped down $1100 for it prevent me from seeing the rifle for what it is; a neat, interesting rifle that has its fair share of flaws, some glaring.
>>28043853
The only historical fact is that the stocks may crack if not properly cared for. They were only issued with two magazines so that's really a moot point. Setting the gas system properly does wonders for reliability...
>>28043382
>shilling intensifies
>>28043906
Yeah, no lol.
>>28043878
Your missing 2 rifles to the right of that pic
>>28043933
so what? this entire board is almost entirely comprised of shilling.
>>28044059
At least shill for something good.
>>28044069
I did.
>>28044117
Oh, then why does an AR in 300 blk do everything better for less cost?
>>28044122
>>28042752
>$680 out the door.
>Show me another auto-adjusting gas piston rifle in 300BLK with a factory threaded barrel and I'll tell you I made a mistake.
>$680.
Are you ready to, or are you just breathing hot air?
>>28044177
>$680 out the door.
Time to back up your claim.
>>28044204
>http://www.slickguns.com/product/ruger-5864-mini-14-tactical-rifle-300blk-w2-20rd-magazines-69500
Wow that was really difficult.
>>28044238
>$695 before taxes and transfer fees
lol.
>>28044271
>LGS's never give customers good deals on anything, even decade old loyal patrons.
How's high-school, faggot?
>>28044306
>m-muh special deel!
Yeah, they do that for ARs too, your argument is invalid.
>>28044317
Find one for me then, I couldn't.
Congratulations if you fucking can, asshole. Wish I was as lucky as you.
Crawl back under your bridge when you're done with that dragon dildo.
>>28043933
>anon shares a positive experience with a relatively unique rifle he bought
>shilling
when he starts shoving Ruger down my throat in this thread, I'll pull out the shill card.
>>28044354
>Getting this defensive and ragey when your argument falls apart
>>28044369
And posting twice because of said anger
Jesus, you're anon bro, just accept you were wrong gracefully. Using the "deal" argument is stupid because again, deals come and go for all kinds of things. On slickguns you can find a decent 300 blk AR for 100 more only, who knows when more deals roll around for both. Alternatively you can build your own AR, and just either have a separate 300 blk upper, or change the barrel. Could buy a budget AR and change the barrel too. There's a gorillion options with ARs, and very few with minis.
>>28044386
>unique rifle
lol
>>28044427
>just accept you were wrong gracefully.
>just accept that all the reasons that you bought the rifle at that specific period in time for that price compared to the alternatives never happened and tell me I'm a good boy who know a lot about guns, please daddy?
Sure son, you a good boy.
*pat pat*
>>28044427
Show me other rifles in 300 BLK besides a Mini and an AR-pattern rifle. Even if you find one more, that's only three platforms, which isn't many. Plus, the Mini-14 is commonly seen as more of a "fudd-gun" and the fact that they offer one in 300 BLK is, in my opinion, interesting.
>>28044450
Well, I know more about them than you at least, seems rather clear with how buttmad you are about being incorrect lol.
>>28044486
Then you are a newfag and haven't realized the Mini has been pushing the tactical market for years now. They have a Mini-30 anyway, a 300 BLK isn't all that unique or interdasting. Maybe if you like buying inferior firearms for more but, hey, your money. Really, it is your money, just understanding your willingness to buy it doesn't make it better than the competition, far from it.
>>28040656
/thread
>>28040638
>>28043798
>>28043810
ARs don't run on slav magic. Some of us will never like ARs, it's nothing personal but they just don't click for us.
>>28043810
>more comfortable
That's subjective
>>28040638
>slavshit
>inferior
That's a rather large generalization to make if you're talking about a group of items as large as slavshit.
If you are actually talking about slavshit in a broader sense, I like it because it's cheap, generally-reliable equipment with a lot of history behind it. Anyone who hates it either hasn't used some of the better examples of slavshit or just hates to hate. Nothing else to it really, mi familia.
>>28044518
>I know more about them than you at least
Show me a fucking piston AR in 300BLK with a factory threaded barrel and A MANUFACTURERS LIFETIME WARRANTY for $680 and I'll happily let you ride my dick, faggot.
Protip: you can't.
Now fuck back off to your waifu pillow and go to bed.
>>28040674
>aren't quite as big in the aftermarket area
I consider this a plus at times.
Nothing more irritation than having half your shit fall out of fashion every time the SHOT show rolls around.
An ak is an ak.
Maybe put a optic on it and a sling and you are 90% done.
Not like the AR guys that have to change out their buttstock every time something new comes out.
I have an AR as well but it is an old colt A2 HBAR that doesnt lend itself to being tacticooled.
>>28040638
Can someone recommend me an AR at 800 or 700
K thx
>>28044518
Yeah but how many people do you see buying the tactical Minis? Most people who are interested in buying a "tactical" rifle make the realization that they can get an AR that does the same thing better at the same cost as a Mini, so most of those who buy Minis get the ranch rifle. It's not an invalid assumption, I think. Either way, the point I was making was that there really isn't a variety in pattern or manufacture of .300 BLK rifles, which you still did not counter.
>>28044556
Show me a Mini for that.
Protip, you can't. Your price point was already demolished. You're so upset lol, this is silly. I don't get why you're all assy about FACTORY THREADED BURRULLLOL. You realize that's the norm with ARs right?
>>28044604
>Yeah but how many people do you see buying the tactical Minis?
>Suddenly its unique
It's nothing unique at all mate, even the action is derived from the M14.
>the point I was making was that there really isn't a variety in pattern or manufacture of .300 BLK rifles, which you still did not counter.
Generally I don't counter a strawman argument besides pointing it out for what it is. I never said the AR was unique, I said the mini in 300 blk isn't. Why can't people here make it in life without bringing up fallacies to their arguments, along with a severe inability to comprehend what they read.
>>28044569
See, IMHO whoever buys firearms or accessories because they are en vogue is retarded. I mean, your money is your money but I'd rather buy something that performs the function I want and if it loses popularity but still is functional and looks good to me, then fuck what others think. I'm only going to upgrade or buy something new if it has proven benefits over what I already have.
>>28044594
Either M&P sport or build your own.
>>28044636
>Show me a Mini for that.
I already showed you an online price of $695. I got mine for $680 out the door. If you can't believe that, perhaps it's because it's actually a really good deal and the fact is you're a total fucking retarded faggot who like to stick buffer tubes up your asshole while shitposting about ARs on 4chan.
And no, threaded barrels are not standard on budget ARs.
You're a fucking imbecile.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
>>28044693
>I already showed you an online price of $695
Before taxes and transfer fees
>I got mine for $680 out the door.
Anecdote, disregarded
>If you can't believe that, perhaps it's because it's actually a really good deal and the fact is you're a total fucking retarded faggot who like to stick buffer tubes up your asshole while shitposting about ARs on 4chan.
I drove you insane, kekkles.
>And no, threaded barrels are not standard on budget ARs
Show me
>Stop embarrassing yourself.
He said as he sperged like a 12 year old who was called out for being wrong in front of his friends.
>>28044369
Are you implying dragon dildos are not the ideal /k/ portable companion?
>k will defend slavshit but deep down they know that it was meant for peasent conscripts that were illiterate.
>>28046186
>safe
>auto
>semi
Even Stalin made sure his guns were usable by the cowardly retarded conscripts.
dude you get an ak if you want an ak
get an ar if you want an ar
at the end of the day im not overly worried about spread at 100 yards and other shit im just looking to have a good time
>>28040638
>What exactly is the appeal of the ak in recent times?
>>TL;DR why do people buy slavshit and defend an inferior product while in the same price range of other options?
I fucking love her bark, her feminine curves, and her bite.
>>28040638
7.62 makes slightly larger holes in paper, and costs $0.08/rd less than 5.56.
your argument is invalid.
>>28040682
Not really, there are lot's of makers of 7.62x39 and even brass cased from Italy and Serbia.
Granted there is like, only one American ammo maker which is Federal, and their's is out of spec...
really this only applies to 5.45x39 as there are no American ammo or foreign ammo makers that's not out of Ukraine or Russia.
>>28046324
>im a sex deprived neckbeard so i try to justify my shitty gun purchase by relating it to females
ftfy sugoi desu mesu bo besu fi fi fo feck f a m c u c k s m h t b h l e l penis
>>28046324
>that recoil pad
You gigantic pussy.
>>28046386
>$0.08 cheaper than 5.56
Nigger what ammo are you looking at? I get my 556 for 0.22/rd
>>28041445
Magpul is what proved that AK's are just as popular as AR's, as Magpul only makes accessories for very common and popular weapons systems.
I've always like Manticore Arm's myself for aluminum key mod or M lock hanguards that aren't retarded hard to put on and take off like Troy's heavy as fuck battle rail.
>>28046436
>Oh my god what a loser he gave his AK feminine qualities
>Meanwhile other men refer to their cars, trucks, boats and ships as "she"
>>28046458
I buy in bulk and get it for less.
>>28046324
>Polymer handguard
>Wood stock
Even the slavs know how to keep their shit matching
>>28046476
>meanwhile other insecure men refer to their cars, trucks, boats, and ships as "she"
ftfy familia
>>28046499
God damn it, you made me laugh.
>>28040638
>$600+ for a WASR
Maybe if you're an idiot.
>>28047612
Hello 2013, it's been a while.
If you have to ask why.... well even if i told you, you still wouldn't get it
>>28040836
Something about that vdv tanktop looks odd.
>>28040674
>cue
The only thing the ak has over the ar is reliability.
For the tradeoffs its not worth it
