M9 i want one
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Tell me why this should or shouldn't be my first handgun.
Have you held one? Does it fit well in your hand? Can you shoot it well?
If all three answers are yes, go for it.
It's a pretty nice gun.
You might have issues concealing it though.
Get a 92fs instead
>>27914713
Beretta's pretty good option for first buyers. Anything of the sort for personal and home defence is absolutely fine. Also don't go too deep down the price range, just get a reliable affordable firearm
>>27914713
Pros
Very accurate
Cons
Heavy
Mags are on the expensive side
Slide safety
Not good for CC
It's great gun to learn how to shoot well with but you will may want something else soon after.
>>27914728
>Get a 92fs instead
Not OP, but painfully ignorant in the handgun world. What's the difference?
If you've held one and liked it, go for it.
It's a solid choice.
>>27914752
Most M9's in the civilian market are worn out, mistreated pieces of shit.
The 92FS is 99% the same, but wasn't abused by a grunt for 20 years
>>27914752
Upgraded parts vs the original M9 think of it kinda as a gen 2
>>27914713
>shouldn't
grip ergonomics kindof suck
As long as you have the money, get a P226 or HiPower
>>27914750
>slide safety
>con
kek
>>27914776
Maybe if you have baby hands
>>27914776
>HiPower
If you have money why would you get a Hi-Power?
>>27914713
>slide mounted safety
>hammer fired
disgusting
>>27914777
Why is it a decocker only on the M9
>>27914808
It's a decocker on the 92FS as well.
>>27914752
The m9 has more polymer pieces. The 92fs is also made in Italy. You are buying a notorious Italian handgun so it might as well say "made in Italy"
But the m9 comes with 17rd mags opposed to the 15 rounders for 92fs
The 92fs has better sights imo, they're three dot. While the m9 has the black rear sights and a dot on the front sight post, but sights are a personal preference sorta thing
>>27914796
If you have money get the P226
ELSE get a HiPower
>>27914818
There are US made 92's
>>27914815
You sure about that
F Models
Also known as the 92SB-F, the model 92 F (adopted by the US Army as the M9 Pistol) has a double-action first trigger pull, followed by a single-action trigger pull for subsequent rounds. The "F" and "FS" models have a safety lever that also functions as a decocking lever.
G Models
The G models (designed for the French "Gendarmerie Nationale") were adopted by the French Military as PAMAS; they feature a manual decocking lever only instead of the safety-decocking lever of the 92 FS. When the decocking lever is released, it automatically returns to the ready to fire position. There is no manual safety.
>>27914857
I believe you but I'm pretty sure most 92fs and 92a1s are made in gardone
>>27914808
The M9 has a decocker safety, not decocker only.
>>27914818
>But the m9 comes with 17rd mags opposed to the 15 rounders for 92fs
That's the M9A3 only, M9s take the same 15 round magazines that the 92FS does.
>>27914818
>The m9 has more polymer pieces.
>The 92fs is also made in Italy.
Not anymore. 92FS has all the same polymer parts and many are made in the YOU ESS AYY.
>But the m9 comes with 17rd mags opposed to the 15 rounders for 92fs
That's the M9A1 or 92A1. Neither the M9 nor 92FS come with 17 round mags from Beretta. Your local shops or certain online retailers may offer different packages.
I agree with you on the sights, though.
>>27914713
If you do, get the oversized steel magazine release and factory steel parts ASAP.
>>27914853
>hipower > 92
>recommending a SAO, single stack 9mm, with a sub-par trigger with an msrp almost twice the 92.
The HP retails for about the same as a new sig. And because of the magazine disconnect, the beretta actually has a nicer single action pull.
>>27914769
>Most M9's in the civilian market are worn out, mistreated pieces of shit.
>The 92FS is 99% the same, but wasn't abused by a grunt for 20 years
What a retarded claim. There isn't a single Army surplus M9 for sale on the civilian market.
>>27914964
>Hi-Power
>single stack
>>27914861
I'm not sure I follow. Is this in regards to decocker vs decocker-safety?
>>27914964
>The HP retails for about the same as a new sig.
Most Hi-Powers should be in the 200-300 range new, they're also not single stack, they have a 13 round double which is the whole reason the pistol exists in the first place.
It does however have a shitty trigger, and for a little more money you can get an all around better gun, like a 92 or any modern polymer pistol. Buying a Hi-Power for anything other than historical significance is pointless.
>>27915014
A decocker will safely drop the hammer without the gun firing. A decocker safety will drop the hammer and put the gun in an unfireable state while it is engaged.
>>27915014
Nevermind it was in regards to someone earlier who isn't of the mindset that slide mounted safeties are annoying.
GOD motherfucking captcha is going full retard tonight.
>>27915047
I'm tracking now. Most people colloquially call the decocker-safety on the F-series a decocker.
>>27914885
My mistake I should have been saying m9a1 throughout that post.
Do you have any experience with the 92s?
>>27915027
are you sure your not confusing hipower with hipoint
factory new hi powers are 800-1k
used one are in the 300-500 range
>>27915007
You are correct, but my other points still stand.
The HP is an 92fs-quality gun priced like a much better sig. It's the ford taurus of handguns.
>>27915094
>factory new hi powers are 800-1k
>used one are in the 300-500 range
I didn't even know there were factory new Hi-Powers. A surplus Hi-Power should be less than 300.
>>27915027
>200-300
200-300 for a HP nets you a shitty, hard ridden trade-in.
You can also get trade-in berettas for the same 200-300. But for the sake of making reasonable comparisons, we won't be talking bout beat to shit trade-ins/surplus.
>>27914804
>hammer fired
delicious*
>>27915027
>2-300
are you high ?
>>27915027
Browning hi power, 2-300$ new. You are so talking out of your ass you can't even buy a beat to shit surplus one for that price.
OP look at this shit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VfMo9dzuA
Its a reliable as fuck gun will never let you down. I chose the m9 over the 92fs due to the idiot warning on the slide. Be aware of what it is though, a full size duty pistol not as easy to conceal I find appendix does the trick though.
>>27915181
hes high on power or posting through a time portal
>>27915108
>>27915138
>>27915157
Wrong. Surplus hi powers havent dipped below $350 in maybe 3 years with best price now around $420 mark. Why would we trust anything you have to say about a gun you've been proven to be ignorant about?
>>27915157
Also those berettas are the heel mag release type, ive seen some beat as fuck "regular" 92's and they havent dipped below 400 either.
>>27915233
you feelin' alright? You're replying to like what's pretty obviously three different people.
>>27915108 is talking about new hipowers being priced like sigs, doesn't even mention surplus.
>>27915157 here I was saying the same shit you are. if you're paying 200-300 for a hipower, it's going to be a total piece of shit.
>>27915297
True, I totally forgot what I had for that "ford taurus of handguns" though.
About the 2-3hundy beat to shit hi powers I repeat they don't exist it simply is not possible to find them at that price. Maybe a Feg or Arcus clone but not an actual hi power be it a browning, fn, argentine made or beat to shit israeli surplus.
>>27914750
> implying he will not want another gun soon no matter what he gets
>>27915824
Might not have the budget you never know lots of poorfags on /k/
>>27915873
True, here's some direction Op.
For an m9 you cant beat budsgunshop @ $516 they regularly have em at that.
Sig p226 leo trade ins (avoid DAK models) regularly go for $550 though topgunsupply has swiss ones @ $480ish. Side note this gun design is fun as fuck in .45acp go for a used p220 on gunbroker.
Hi power, israeli surplus on gunbroker search mach1arsenal closer to $500 depending on condition. I'd rather go with one of above models for what you'd spend unless you get one with the extended safety, that little standard one is a bitch, fucks my grip to disengage. Otherwise good luck finding a new one for under $800.
Bamm hope that helps.
get a glock 19 instead its more versatile, just as reliable, and can be ccw
>>27916777
Or he could get a cool fun to shoot gun instead of the shovel of pistols, plain simple boring utilitarian block of polymer. Why would you recommend a gun that has nothing in common with other guns from the thread but caliber?
>>27917091
Glocks are always an answer because they are superior to most guns. It is like talking about what horse should you buy to travel somewhere and someone recommends you a car, it is just logical.
>>27914713
Get the M9A3 instead, factory threaded barrel.
>>27917139
>autism as a lifestyle
>>27917139
>superior
They're just ok, generally considered the standard, yet more expensive than some competitors that offer more because of brand fanbois like you.
>>27914965
there are plenty of parts from m9s in the civilian market. There's really no reason to get an m9 over a 92fs.
>>27914713
They're big
The trigger kind of sucks
slide mounted safety
If you're okay with the size and the trigger, go for it. If you want one with a frame safety, the taurus pt92 is made on the same tooling as berettas, but they're usually cheaper, and the safety is a lot less shit. ~6k rounds through mine and never had a problem.
>>27917139
>they are superior to most guns
wut
>>27917173
there is actually enough barrel sticking out on a 92fs to thread it with the stock barrel. Barely, but people have done it.
Or you can just buy a threaded barrel for a plain 92fs.
Or you can stop being a fucking faggot and just get a normal barrel. You're never going to put a can on your gun. stop lying to yourself. I honestly don't understand why so many people go crazy over threaded barrels when most people are never going to bother doing anything with it.
Go ahead OP, they are great and fun. They serve a purpose as a large duty pistol, so yes they are hard to CC and if you have little girl hands the grip is huge. For someone like me with kinda big hands, its the most comfortable pistol I have ever held. Recoil impulse is super smooth, I could shoot more ammo in a day than I could ever afford. They pull a lot of hate around here, the slide safety/decocker freaks people out for some reason, I dont mind it, its an opinion. A lot of people that say their unreliable are military folks who have a beat up old armory piece that has been knocking around since Desert Storm, but a new production or well maintained used civilian model is gonna be damn reliable. Its a gun people seem to love or hate, if you hold it or shoot it and like it, get it. On a side note if you decide to get an M9A1 like I did, know that holsters are next to impossible to find, dont know why but its being a real pain in my ass, any recommendations fellow 1Aers?
They're xbawks hueg
If you're fine with that then you're good to go.
>>27917464
they're really not that big. They have basically the same profile as a 1911. They're just full sized handguns.
>>27914750
I have a 92FS and the slide safety hasn't given me any issues, better than most guns that put a safety that can't be worked easily with the left hand.
>>27917538
My only problem is you can't carry cocked and locked
cz 75 is better in every way
>>27914713
Get a 92G.
Basically the same except the switch on top is just a decocker, and not a safety. No reason to have a safety on a handgun with at double action trigger pull.
>>27914713
get the M9A3 if you're going to get a beretta
