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Every picture I have seen for the meetups there are very VERY few of you who are actually in shape. You talk constantly about what you would do in a SHTF scenario but it seems most of you on here would pass out and die of exhaustion within the first hour of ANY lengthy situation... Reminder
If you cannot do 35 pushups in full kit without stopping, you're a pussy.
If you cant hold your rifle up without shaking for 2 minutes, you should probably do more pushups.
If you can't run a mile in less than 8 minutes, then get off your fucking computer, wipe off your orange cheeto dick, and start doing something with your life.
You are not ready for SHTF, you never were.
>>27842796
>this post, being weapons or military related.
>>>/fit/
>>27842796
>If you cant hold your rifle up without shaking for 2 minutes, you should probably do more pushups.
if you dont understand what muscles are used for what, then you should probably figure it out before you spout pretentious shitposts on 4 chans easiest board to troll.
>>27842796
Not to defend fatties or meetups but /k/ is primarily for weapons, not fitness or preparing for shtf, those are all secondary to the weapons part. And from what I've seen, meet ups are about having fun with like minded autist not training a militia.
These are kinda my same sentiments exactly. Haven't been to a meet up for a while but I think at this rate I'm better off for it. I'd also say to aim for a minimum of 10 dead hang pull ups. Back strength will do wonders when humping a minimum of 50 lbs of gear all over the place
>>27842819
>implying /b/ isnt the easiest to troll
>>27842819
Have you ever had to hold up on a door for any length of time? No, probably not. I know what muscles are used for
>>27842836
As a united states citizen, you are already part of a militia, do your part.
would you like to know more?
Yes No
>>27842844
Fuck yes! Any weighted pull ups/dips with gear. Burpees are a real bitch too but they help so much with squatting behind cover and overall stamina
>>27842849
>military makes you do pushups!
>pushups must be what lets you hold guns longer!
>>27842860
>As a united states citizen, you are already part of a militia
here we go again
>>27842868
Well i guess standing unsupprted, especially in "tactical" modern stances dont use skeletal support much, so a good amount of it is lower back and lats, as well as shoulders mostly. Pushups do the shoulders, lats a little.
>>27842868
>not understanding the concept of fitness within training
>>27842878
Butthurt antigun commie scum detected.
Wouldn't that make me look yucky and masculine?
>>27842882
>I don't know anything about anatomy!
This is you.
>>27842890
>not understanding the concept of these muscles do very little with supporting a rifle
>>27842907
>Missing the point
Fat is actually helpful if you're in a survival situation. Your body has more to eat so you lose energy at a smaller rate and can retain stamina long enough to do something worthwhile and keep going.
Now, I'm not talking about some 700 lbs guy that can't even walk, but someone like Ray Mears is a good weight. I'd say that as long as you're at least somewhat fit you're fine, the rest can be gotten in time.
>>27842907
hes a high speed low drag opurrator with dat dere full support arm extension for thumb over bore tactical high speed muzzle control.
>>27842932
>not making any point
>>27842939
True, true.
>>27842896
No, I think anon might be right, if I get what's he's trying to say.
Despite that all U.S. citizens are constitutionally part of the militia (if the need arises), how many people could actually participate in guerrilla warfare? Not just physically or mentally, but structurally as well. What kind of hierarchy would be established? A militaristic endeavor is destined to fail without unity and strong leadership, especially one made up of spoiled. citizens
>implying my fat won't help me survive getting shot or stabbed
All you skeletons will have rounds destroying your insides while I'll be able to survive nicely because I'm fat. Seriously fuck off, there's nothing wrong with being fat.
>>27842864
Same guy that you replied to:
Try not to actually squat behind cover. I know that sometimes you have to but if you can help it: don't. Squatting is not a very stable firing stance and no matter how strong your hip flexors and thighs are you will tire out fast. Always always kneel, or even sit if you can. It's lazy as hell but you don't need to be exhausting your lower body while fighting. Exhaust your lower body later if shit goes to shit and you have to retreat. Sorry, "advance in another direction"
>>27842984
Spoiled and fat*
You fat? You're essentially worthless. I'm in no way shape or form saying you need to be a fucking chiseled statue, but for fucks sake lose the muffin top and dorito tits, and pick up a kettle bell...
Point of this post was exactly what I said... A lot of you talk about SHTF but I've seen very few people on here who would be able to push forward with the bodily stresses of combat/survival.
>>27843005
>This much denial
Yeah maybe you should start testing how long you can go without something carbonated or from a box/bag. Starting now.
>>27843006
I hear ya, but for instances where you need to be able to immediately MOVE, squatting is the only choice really due to the time it takes to get off a knee, especially if you're hurting haha
k den
>>27843007
>and pick up a kettle bell
For what? All that non fat burning power?
>>27843006
The worst thing is trying to walk up or down stairs or climb another hill after your lower body is torn to shreds
>>27843022
The 1% of /k/
>>27843007
Exactly. Plus the mental toughness needed to endure combat, survival, etc... People don't give enough consideration to the reality of what SHTF or militia activity would actually involve...
>>27843050
>>27843067
I am the 1%
>>27843060
That, and if you expect to be a part of any group of people, you are doing a disservice to them by being out of shape. Your training group should be IN SHAPE or you are a LIABILITY and you are putting your dudes at risk. Fall behind because you're slow? Well everyone else now has to wait for YOU and slow down for YOU and take longer to get to any type of objective...
SHTF and you meet a new group of people, and now you're also putting THEM at risk, and since they have no allegiance to you, they'll probably leave your lazy ass in the dirt.
>keklets try to out do veterans
Laughable.
>>27843150
DYEL as fuck
>>27842796
>the only people on /k/ are the autists who go to meetups
Bruh why'd you delete your post of your little fuccboi?
I mean he looks like a little twink anyway. Just calling it as I see it girl.
>>27843184
25% eurofags
50% airshit fags
10% milsurp whores
10% bored
4% people who own a black rifle and also weigh over 220lbs
1% Good gun owners who understand the reasons of actually training and adhering to self sustainability
>>27843022
>>27843092
Nobody in these photos actually looks fit. They just aren't overweight. That doesn't actually mean they have any respectable level of fitness.
It's pathetic that in our country we are so used to people being fat that we start to consider someone "in shape" or fit just because they aren't overweight to any degree.
>>27843264
Ok, I'll give you that, but their ability to strength train and become more agile is better than a fat fuck.
>>27842796
My SHTF plan involves staying home, so I think I'm good.
>>>/fit/
>>27843006
>retreat
>acknowledges you can't say retreat by saying "advance in other direction"
The correct term is to "retire".
>>27842796
The best benefits of working out aren't even /k/ related.
Your body and face look more attractive, you're likely to live decades longer, you don't feel tired all the time, and life is just more enjoyable overall. I don't even lift heavy or run particularly fast but the average American sets the bar so fucking low it doesn't take much to excel.
>>27843006
This is wrong.
Squatting is a more stable position to fire from than kneeling, and if you're actually squatting like you're supposed to (feet flat, not on your toes), it's only slightly more tiresome than kneeling.
Don't believe me?
Try the instruction from a former Delta Force OPERATOR:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_0i3JSNwc0
Frank Proctor has said similar about kneeling too, and he basically says to squat or, if you are going to kneel, be sitting down on your heel/foot and getting as much ground contact as possible.
>>27843460
>This is wrong.
Kinda sorta, really it depends on what kneeling is for you. Some people see kneeling as that really high, torso leaning forward, one leg flat on ground, one let making a 90 degree angle, foot flat on the ground. That's not very stable all things considered.
Kneeling can also be in the suck a dick position, both knees on the ground, ass sitting on your legs, which are flat on the ground. This is much more stable as you're a planted platform, and your center of gravity is low. My "kneeling" really isn't kneeling in the classic sense at all, I tuck one leg under me, sitting on my foot, and my other leg makes an obtuse triangle, sorta like pic related but I run my support arm further down against my thighs and really lean into it. This is stable for me and keeps my center of gravity low as well, without being in the bitch kneel which can be cumbersome to get out of wearing heavy gear while fatigued.
In the video, it seems clear he'd take that position because it's easy to transition in and out of in order to save time.
>>27843432
How the fuck is fitness not weapon related when as you're training, you're using your body, therefore as we talk about training FOR combat, it is good to discuss our other weapon... our body
>>27843572
>How the fuck is fitness not weapon related
Because fitness is not a weapon.
>>27843655
Yes it is
>>27843691
Cite it.
>>27842796
35 push ups
8 minute mile
You can't do shit if your legs cant support you
>35 push ups
>2 miles in 15 minutes
>>27843572
Your body is not a weapon. Weapons are weapons.
>>27843731
If fitness has nothing to do with weapons or weapon related topics then why the fuck is body armor discussed on here? Guess we cant talk about that anymore because, I mean, what are you gonna do? Beat someone to death with your plate to justify it as being a weapon? Pull your head out of your ass, you fat fuck
11B MOS, active service NCO here. 5'8", 154 lbs, marathon 3h 45min, bench 220 lbs, diddlylift 350 lbs, OHP 135 lbs, squat 265 lbs
GET THE FUCK MOVING YOU SAD FATSOS YOU'RE A SHAME OF YOUR NATION
>>27843792
>then why the fuck is body armor discussed on here?
Because body armor helps stop bullets.
>Pull your head out of your ass, you fat fuck
So angry though.
>>27843793
Retards just don't want to discuss fitness because they cant buy it from the kommando store, it doesn't come in patch form, and you cant cerakote it... That and it actually takes ambition to be fit for combat.
The discussion is COMBAT RELATED FITNESS, Lard asses
>>27843793
Thanks bro, plus: the fucking SPESSHUL SNAKE SOLID BLACK OPS carry 100 lbs in tech NOT COUNTING CLOTHES. But keep on with fucking Doritos, Dew and anime porn if that prepares you better then.
"An infantryman with a sub 3k Cooper is useless and dead."
- My best DI ever
rgds, >>27843809
>>27843572
>How the fuck is fitness not weapon related
You must not have actually read my post because I never said that nor have I ever given a fuck about on topic discussions on /k/.
>>27843793
>5'8"
>>27843793
>5'8"
All that and you're still a manlet.
>>27843809 mistake, meant I'm >>27843793
>>27842796
Don't count on improvement. This is the site where people complain about airshit being for kids, but can't run a mile faster than those kids.
>>27843809
And fitness helps sustain you in a fight...
>>27843848
Less target, more safety, you're making a great hadji practice target with your manly 7 foot 600 lbs torso of the gods m8.
>>27843859
...............I know......
Its saddening
>>27843861
So does water. Water is not a weapon. I don't know why you feel the need to assert that this thread is on topic.
Is fitness important in general? Yes.
Is fitness a weapon? No.
>>27843432
Based fucking Faulk saving the day again. I'm actually leaving this shithole this time, I'm sincerely sorry you have to hang out here for money.
>>27843834
What?
>>27843851
Oh, alright.
>>27843861
How is the act of getting fit intentionally harmful to people? It's literally the opposite unless you fuck up.
>>27843872
>...............
>>>/reddit/
>>27842796
When SHTF I'll have a lot of extra calories to wast desu senpai baka. Although I probably couldn't do 35 pushups in full kit, I can run that 8 minute mile while still being a chublord
>>27843922
kek, I've got a good guess but who is this?
>>27843944
Fuck off newfag.
>>27843941
How is discussing body armor intentionally harmful to people? Im sorry you're fat, bro, I really am. You don't need to make excuses
The point of the meet ups is for fun you idiot if you want to be a special ops so bad join the army and post here when you make it
>>27843977
>How is discussing body armor intentionally harmful to people?
Because if it saves your life you can keep killing who is trying to kill you.
Inb4 well fitness lets you get to cover quickly and keep fighting longer. Sure, but it's not specific weapon related, it has to do with your overall ability, and we have a board for it already.
>Im sorry you're fat, bro, I really am. You don't need to make excuses
Why you so mad tho?
>>27843965
>Being this new
>Being this reddit
>>27843962
I don't know you anywhere else than from here, I'm not even American, but I will always remember you fondly. Everyone doesn't get or need to be the guy kicking in doors in whateveristan, me neither, so I actually feel for you social media guys. At least I get to get off the internet when doing my shit.
>>27843793
>>27842796
cant hold something up, do more pushups
8 minute mile, what are you, Master Semen in the bitch Navy?
top kek
>>27842844
pullup equal to humping packs
second their shit keks
>>27842882
pushups are primarily a chest exercise, shoulders will support the joint, but a pushup doesn't really work the shoulders as much as the chest and tris.
are you all fucking anatomy morons?
>>27843007
implying a SHTF situ would require combat
implying a muffin top an bitch tits will somehow disable you from walking/hiking to a remote location
>>27843022
dude in the jean is packing, and I aint talkin bout the gun. kudos to him.
>>27843460
true on squatting, 100%
As someone who was fat, hella fat, 400+ lbs, and now weight sub-200 at 6'2" I can say to things ...
1. weight is important insomuch as it hinders you from truly being ready for many things.
2. half of you people don't know shit about the human body, or how it works.
>>27843988
This.
If we wanted to join the military, we would join the military.
Now stop being autistic.
>>27844123
Ahh, good deal and all the best. You're not the only person I've talked to recently who is strongly consider leaving /k/ for good so I presumed. So much better things to do with one's time.
Reminder the Navy Seals, one of the most highly trained fighting forces in the U.S. military got obliterated by sand niggers in Mogadishu and by a couple of mountain goat herder hadjis in Afghanistan.
Both defeats were hard, but the Afghanistan one was so bad they had to make a fake propaganda film inflating the number from a handful to an entire fighting force of hundreds.
These men were in the very best shape, with the best weapons and gear, utilizing the best backup available having the best training possible.
Navy Seals with rifles, dumb nignogs hopped up on chewing khot with rifles.
All it takes is some stupid fuck to pull a trigger, and that is why the second amendment right to keep and bear arms is so incredibly powerful and the neoliberal cultural marxists consider it to be so dangerous to their political desire for a ruled hugbox feelings echo chamber.
The gun equalizes everyone.
It allowed 3% at any given time of some farmer colonists to take on and defeat the British military who was at the time the most powerful military on the entire planet.
Navy Seals with rifles, dumb nignogs hopped up on chewing khot.
Of course better rifle training helps, discipline helps.
I would argue dictating the location of a battle, dictating the time it takes place, the terrain, is far more powerful than anything else.
Some dumb hillbilly hick redneck doesn't agree to the new "Black Lives Matter Bernie Sanders Turn In All Guns for a Racist Free America" law can do a whole metric fuck ton of damage with a simple scoped rifle and the decision of location and time.
Now multiply one dumb fat redneck by millions.
Good luck with that. Be sure to bring lots of body bags.
>>27842796
i can do all those things
and i still feel weak
>>27842796
>Implying any of that matters
Yeah, strength and stamina are nice, but that's not what will keep you alive in SHTF. Your brain will. All the muscles in the world won't be worth a damn if you don't know what's needed to survive.
>>27843460
That sitting position looks like it needs a lot of practice beforehand. Neither my legs nor my back can do that.
The squat was pretty dope
>>27842796
You are not wrong.
And
You're not right.
There's a lot of other ways to operate than being a navy seal.
>>27842796
I bet you don't even load trucks by hand every day.
>>27843264
>Nobody in these photos actually looks fit.
They look decently fit to me, sperglord.
>>27842796
You must be a pretty badass operator yourself right?
>>27843562
>TFW I realize just trying to shoot guns accurately could fuck my back
I hate my life.
tfw blm is a half a day's drive away and the ranges sure as hell will not allow you to run and gun
>>27845389
Man at least you and me have blm land at all, millions of people dont have that option. just get up early as fuck man don't be lazy
>>27842796
so true if anything hit the fan there would be a lot of nice weapons up for grabs in this country
yeah most cunts on this board wouldn't be able to operate their radios, let alone a scenario.
fucking fatties.
>>27842796
Maybe if you want to talk so much shit, you shouldn't set your perceived standards so low.
Also
>holding up a rifle
>push ups
It'd be more on the rear delts, lats, forearms, biceps, and core. Try doing some pull ups or, you know, the best thing for learning how to hold up your rifle longer: Holding up your fucking rifle longer.
> fat fucks arguing that maintaining a basic level of fitness isn't important in a SHTF scenario
I bet most of you can't do a single unassisted pull-up. If you didn't have your tacticool 1 point sling you wouldn't be able to hold your rifle up for a minute. If you can't run under an 8 minute mile how do you expect to survive innawoods? How do you expect to be able to bug out and march up a fucking incline, let alone with a full load?
You don't have to be ripped or be able to run faster than an olympic athlete, but being fat, weak and out of shape makes you a liability to yourself and everyone around you in a SHTF situation. Stop making excuses.
>>27843793
>5'8"
>>27843264
>Nobody in these photos actually looks fit.
What the fuck are you looking for? Navy seals?
These aren't operating everyday for a living people. These are mechanics, warehouse staff, desk jobs, paperwork and customers everyday for a living.
There are people in our military right now who look worse than these people.
>>27845927
>If you can't run under an 8 minute mile how do you expect to survive innawoods? How do you expect to be able to bug out and march up a fucking incline, let alone with a full load?
it's called 4wd idiot
>>27845951
> can confirm
There's this guy in my ROTC detachment who is also enlisted in the guard. Pretty sure he used to be active army as well.
He's MI
He's fat, gross, balding, lazy, weak, and a brony.
Pretty much how I imagine all /k/ommandos.
>>27843793
>5'8"
>>27843793
>5'8"
>>27845979
You talking about LaCount? Fuck that guy
>>27843793
>5'8"
how does it feel to know that god hates you?
>>27843793
>5' 8"
>>27845989
5'8" tippy toppest
>>27846003
Nope, but my guy had his phone go off in the middle of a squad meeting. His ringtone was the my little pony theme song.
>>27843793
>5'8"
manlet detected
>>27843793
>Bench 220
Nigga I'm 195 benching 325 and I aint shit
>>27845943
>>27845989
>>27846001
>>27846008
>>27846011
The samefag is strong in this one
>>27846031
MIDF pls
>>27843793
>5'8"
why?
>>27845332
Your response sounds like a cop out excuse to be mediocre to me. Why settle for sub-par? Why not be prepared on both sides of the spectrum, mentally and physically? Brains don't mean shit if it finds that the only way to survive is to do something physically demanding and your body can't keep up.
>>27843022
guy on the left might be able to run a decent mile. The rest are just "not overweight"
daily reminder that being a decent runner (<14 min 2 mile) and moderately strong (if you deadlift 2pl8 youre probably good enough) is literally THE most important thing for you to have in a survival situation and if you can't then you won't survive the happening.
If the average /k/ was actually interested in survival/being like the military without actually joining then everyone on the board would be in great shape. There is literally no reason not to train the one weapon you always have that you can train at literally any time with literally nothing.
>>27842796
This tbHH fAHm
>>27843092
>>27843022
>Reddit normie Burger King kids club.
This is what /k/ really looks like
>>27846209
>everybody is overweight
thank god I dont go to /k/-meetups, /fit/ has made sure I hate obese fuckers
I have no illusion that I'm doing anything but bugging in. Once I run out of food I'll probably just off myself.
>>27842796
jokes on you faggot I'm active duty and I can do bare minimum requirements on the APFT
>>27846062
>Incorrectly assume the implications of the quoted post
>Arrive at the correct implication of the quoted post in an attempt to self validate
>Proceed to attempt to strawman the argument by claiming what the quoted post already implied
I really hope this is some new double reverse top secret ironic shitposting meme.
>>27846227
>OP
>>27846176
There is no way you can discern that from that pic.
tfw 5'5
tfw under doctor's orders to never run or swim again and restrict walking to 2 miles daily
tfw in spite of weight gain inducing meds and truncated exercise routine, somehow not 100% hamplanet yet
>>27843793
>5'8"
>>27846762
Not the guy you were quoting. Some of the very best soldiers are short-asses, Anon. Doesn't excuse you being a fat, untrained piece of shit.
A part of me really want to see those fat retards on Doomsday Preppers shit their pants when SHTF for real and they discover that they cant run for more than 1 min before suffering some kind heart failure. And all their home-made bunkers couldnt save them
>captcha
>mark waffles
Fuck you captcha Im on a diet you fuck
>>27842962
What have you provided o' magical wizard of tacticool dynamics? What do pushups exercise then, your thighs? I'm pretty goddamn sure anyone would agree that shoulder muscles would help with control, and pushups undoubtably work the shoulders!
>>27846209
Christ, americans really are all overweight.
>>27842805
>>27842836
>>27842936
>>27843005
>>27843655
>>27843809
>>27843959
>>27844028
>>27845951
>>27845969
You know when you see fat women desperately using any argument they can to defend their fitness?
Yeah you lot all sound exactly like that. You've been called out, go do a basic exercise programme. Takes 9 weeks to turn your life around. Stop trying to change subject or wriggle out of it just go get lean.
so many butthurt fatties. don't you guys watch movies like last of the mohicans and ask yourself, "if I was called upon to run and gun like that right now, could I?" being fit will literally never be a disadvantage to you in any situation.
>>27842796
>If you can't run a mile in less than 8 minutes
>tfw I have asthma and doing an 8 minute mile is a dream that will never come true
Im stuck at 12-14
>>27842796
The S will never HTF.
>>27847260
But I've been an infantryman for 6 years. Sounds like you're just projecting and need to hit the pavement buddy.
>>27842868
>what is biceps brachii
>what is flexion
>>27843264
The majority of people on earth are not gym monkeys
the majority of soldiers on earth are not gym monkeys
The majority of operators on earth are not gym monkeys
The majority of American operators, until recently, were not gym monkeys.
>run 3.5 miles this morning
>average is 8.3 minutes per mile
>tfw slow
pls halp
>>27846653
tfw antipsychotic induced weight gain
>>27847277
check em
>>27842796
>You are not ready for SHTF, you never were.
Not true, i have a pretty respectable amount of body fat to fuel and insulate my body during SHTF.
If you think you are going to be some high speed operator during SHTF you are mistaken.
>>27849554
Just keep doing it. It gets easier. But, as my cunt of a coach would tell us "if it doesn't hurt, you're fucking up."
>>27842860
>>27842878
>>27842896
>>27842984
daily reminder that the unorganized able-bodied armed citizenry at large is the militia by definition
>>27851303
>able-bodied
>>27842984
>guerrilla
lrn2 spell
>>27851223
Wait until your glucose levels go all over, you over heat, your fat cries, and you're left in a tired pile of fat shit.
Never said anything about being a high speed operator in any SHTF scenario, but at least I'll be able to move at a moderate speed due to the fact I'm not a fat fuck.
A house with too much insulation is just a shitty house.
Stronger people are harder to kill.
>>27851380
>stronger people are harder to kill
A rifle round CoM kills fatties and skinnies all the same. No amount of speed or muscle makes you bullet proof.
>>27842796
Dude, the but hurt on this thread has reached truly magnificent levels. It's almost like you took a bunch of circle jerking, fat motherfuckers, with zero survival skills, and pointed out the fact that they are a bunch of fat, circle jerking motherfuckers, with no survival skills.
>>27851408
>understanding trauma med this poorly
>>27846209
you are all overweight...
>>27846209
>average blues fan .jpg
as someone who grew up in chicago i hate the city but god damn does coach Q know how to get the cup
