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So I've just been using Hoppe's oil forever since it's what I got with my first cleaning kit and I kind of stuck with it. Lately I've been hearing that grease is actually better as a lube than oil.
What's the best, most practical lube to use? What do you use?
>inb4 canola oil
Motor oil on everything most of the time.
TW-25B on my carry gun, because it attracts less crud.
>>27802763
5w-30
lithium-moly grease on everything. even the old chassis fans on my pc ran great with it.
>>27802763
I love this stuff. Its nice and slick. Really gives me a pleasurable time using it.
>>27802763
Slip 2000, i have not met or heard of anyone that have tried it that went back to what they used before.
ballistol
>>27802776
>Motor oil
>Gun
You're an idiot
>>27802853
No fucko, you're the retard. I drive and service VW TDIs as a side business, know what diesel oil is really fucking good at? Keeping soot in suspension and working under insane temperatures, compression, and combustion. The friction modifiers and additive packages found in modern synthetic Diesel oils are probably the single best lubricant you can purchase for a firearm. They keep crud in suspension/solution, the additives are designed for insanely high compression applications and won't degrade. It's intended for a huge variety of temperatures and lasts a long time under non-use. Also lasts a long time under use. People bitch about rust protection and other non problems because it just hurts their feelings that their 19.99/Oz. lubricant is showed up by a ten dollar quart of Shell Rotella T6.
There is no reason to not use motor oil in a gun short of you existing in a dusty, dirty environment.
only 1 real choice boys
I use grease (pic related) on any metal surface that touches other metal surfaces: barrel locking lugs, top and bottom of barrel where it rubs the slide, slide rails, pump handle rails on shotgun, etc. You don't need to use much, and wipe away any excess so it doesn't attract gunk.
Every other metal surface, I use hoppes oil just to keep it protected from rust.
Vegetable oil
>>27802976
Nah dood. You need mad expensive lubricant or your gun will turn to dust the first time you fire it.
>>27802985
well good thing I am using fireclean then
>>27803002
>Fire clean
How dare you not use the latest and greatest trend lube.
You want to buy a Gen II Arc'tyrex Alpha in Grey?
>>27803021
whats the newest trend now?
and email me about it.
>>27802985
>>27803002
Vegetable oil that's mad expensive. Good choice.
>>27802908
lol rekt
If frog lube good or just a meme lube? Seems expensive for what it is
>>27802913
r u cute?
>>27803105
My buddy uses it, and has let me treat a few of my guns with it, and it works just fine, smells nice, isn't super harsh on your skin if you use it a lot. All in all, it's not worth the price considering it hasn't given me better results than the usual hoppes and remoil I've been using for 15 years.
TL;DR, froglube is good shit but doesn't do anything that traditional lubes can't.
>>27802763
Eezox for rust prevention when you store something otherwise clp, motor oil, ballistol are all good
>>27802763
I use Hoppes #9 for cleaning, Hoppes gun grease for lubing friction points and bearing surfaces, and I use Remoil for general rust prevention and minor lubrication.
Anyone got any good suggestions as to alternatives I can use?
What does /k/ think of m pro 7?
>>27802763
http://lubrikit.com/
>>27802908
>I service Volks TDIs
I'm sorry.
>>27803251
Boretech carbon remover and copper remover, then >>27803223
Tetra/white lithium grease for greasing
>>27802853
>Doesn't know people have been using thin motor oil on guns for forever
Fuck off noguns.
Ballisol on everything, Hoppe's No.9 Benchrest for the bore of my Vepr since surplus 7.62x54r leaves a shitload of copper in the rifling.
>>27802763
Brake cleaner and motor oil. I use patches and then finish up with a boresnake with a drop of motor oil on the end. Also use gun grease (cheap) on slidey bits. A little dab'll do ya.
If I want to really get the crud out of my surplus guns one day, I'll let the (the barrel) soak in brake fluid for a few hours, brush gently with a brass brush, clean as usual, repeat. There is years worth of copper fouling in my Mauser barrel, no matter how many patches go in they always end up coming out blue. It doesn't really affect anything, just bugs me that there is crud in there that I can't get out without a serious effort.
I also keep a bag of desiccant in my gun locker.
>>27803320
Boretech carbon remover or kg12 will destroy copper with very minimal work
>>27803330
really? thanks I'll try it
Read through this: http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/
>>27803350
Post some screenshots, the name makes me think nope.
>>27803341
Fuck Boretech.
Either of these.
Use outdoors, or at a minimum with excellent ventilation. Consider an Organic Vapor respirator and wear gloves. I'm not kidding.
Don't let either sit in the bore.
I use 3-in-1 on everything.
>>27803341
I swear it's awesome, I have used both boretech copper remover, I think they might have a special name for it idk, and kg12(need to wear gloves with this), they clean with very minimal scrubbing. I was able to get a really dirty t53 spotless in a few hours with the boretech copper remover and their carbon remover is useful too, similar to the copper stuff but will clean any carbon. I have yet to see any cleaner clean the black off an AK piston but the boretech stuff will do it
>>27803364
Tried it, they clean good but boretech is a million times easier to use and cleans just as good , and you don't need to clean outside , and it doesn't matter if it sits in your bore, those are a waste of time
>>27803360
Post screenshots of text that you could read yourself if you just click the link? No thanks.
tl;dr: Use lubricants made for commercial food machinery.
>>27802763
ATF.
The Fluid not the Anti-Funs
>>27803364
>harmless to steel
>contains ammonia
lol@falseadvertising, avoid that shit
>>27803386
>those are a waste of time
Every single remotely successful F-Class shooter and those autistic 6mm PPC shooters with analytical balances in their reloading kits spanning this history of everything seems to disagree with you, but okay.
>>27802763
>>27803408
That's cool, companies like KG hire chemists to produce their products, I'm sure they know more about the properties of steel and what cleans best than some benchshooters, fuck off troll
>>27803408
>buying into false advertising
i bet you believe fireclean is the second coming of jesus.
>>27803364
>harmless to steel
>contains ammonia
>do not leave in barrel longer than 15 minutes
Into the trash it goes
>>27803364
>>27803404
>>27803456
>>27803473
>that guy getting BTFO for being a retard
>>27803473
Ammonia is definitely not good for steel, so much for muh f class shooters
>>27803439
>like KG hire chemists
Hi.
The same chemists that would assure you their particular brand of $19.99/Oz lubricant is so much better than motor oil? Despite the literal millions of dollars spent on R&D for modern engine lubricants by big oil?
It's bro science, and like it or not, it's fairly reliable. People who keep outstanding track of every aspect of their weapon, because that's their thing, from cleaning, to ammunition, to every single round fired, how those rounds performed and under what conditions they performed, use those two products almost fucking exclusively because of said performance.
And if you want to start slinging names around that's fine. Eat my ass you Islamic peice of shit.
>>27803501
>this much same fagging
>>27803507
Topkek I use motor oil for lube, you're preaching to the wrong person, KG isn't some backwoods company run by chemist bubbajoe and his sister, they have actually developed products that gun manufacturers are using to finish steel with. Fuck off troll.
>>27803502
>>27803473
>>27803404
All three of you are dumb, assuming it's not just the same faggot samefagging. Ammonia is essentially the only chemical commonly available and cheap enough for this kind of work. Is it bad for steel, sure if you let it sit for hours on end in a concentrated solution. That's why the directions tell you to not let it sit, not the company's fault you can't read. If you want to clean led, copper, and brass fouling out of a bore to the best of your ability, you need to use ammonia to do it, just be carefull with it.
>>27803568
>Not backwoods
>Can't find a published SDS for the life of me
Color me suspicious.
/thread
>>27803591
It will get into cracks and crevices you can't get to, and some guns you can't apply degreaser because of the finish. Ammonia isn't the end all for gun cleaning and if you're limiting yourself to one chemical, it is you that is dumb. I'll stick to my shit, it cleans fast and easier than anything I've ever used, which has been about everything in this thread.
>>27803643
Check their website, or kalgard
Buy an Anderson AR and never have to use lube again.
>>27803718
>AR
>2015
>trust a marketing gimmick
>>27802763
You're welcome this shit is amazing. My gun stays lubed and never rusts...never.
https://www.slip2000.com
>>27803364
My father in law uses Butch's. After the first time opening the bottle his wife won't let him clean guns inside anymore. He has to clean in the garage now.
Can't believe the thread has gone this long without this
>>27803737
I second this, all natural, smells like citrus, you can put your gun under the damn faucet and it'll never rust.
>>27803524
>le samefag
>implying that isn't the first argument someone makes when they are being a retard
you can put your trip back on that guy.
>>27803804
Fuck I missed it
My bad /k/
>>27803833
its ok my phone is so fucked up that you cant even see
>>27802763
>does it pivot?
Oil.
>does it slide?
grease.
Use this:
http://lubrikit.com/
You're welcome.
>>27802913
>P250 and dragon cum lube
Xe is an eclectic gentlebeing. I can tell.
Here we go again.
Despite tests that show hornady one shot and frog lube reckt all the bullshit we still have stupid niggers slathering motor oil on their gats.
Stay poor /k/
>>27803889
Go ahead and post the tests then so we can point out how shitty they were and laugh at you for being a retard
>>27803917
http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667
Alright wow us with your infinite wisdom. But don't forget to tripfag first, fag.
>>27803889
>>27803962
Corrosion resistance=/= lubricity
Eezox does a great job protecting against rust but doesn't do so well as a lube.
>>27803882
excuse me sir you are mispronouncing he
>>27803988
Half this thread is about corrosion and not lube as the op wanted. However comma frog lube is indeed a lube
>>27804022
best lubricant in this thread is cumlube
>>27803206
>>27803105
its just rebranded track lube m8
>>27803962
Ahahahaha. Well done, anon. Guaranteed replies and excuses. Anecdotal faggots getting their precious misconceptions smashed arouses me sexually.
Now, I'm off to fap to the wail of tornado sirens.
>>27803994
Oh shit. I'm sorry! Please don't give me one of those cards. I really didn't know!
>>27802853
>a machine that has small, fast moving parts that deals with high temperatures and explosions.
What did I just describe you brain dead moron?
>>27804100
>A high volume reservoir
>A pressurized loop
>A pump
Three things every engine has that a gun lacks, faggot. Unless you're storing your heater in a vat between uses, you're being ghetto.
>>27804128
thats because a car is dealing with thousands of explosions a minute
a gun shooting at 4k+ rpms would likely need a pressurized loop for heat dissipation aswell
>>27803731
>10,000 rounds
>no failures
>no lube
Come at me.
>>27804539
Undue wear and tear on moving parts. Possible galling. Not likely used in field conditions. Possible rust on all steel parts. Questionable hygiene.
>ctrl+f lubriplate
>0 results
fucking faggots the lot of you
>>27805106
The article and the lubrikit site are both linked
>>27803988
>>27804076
Texas?
>>27802913
>>27803803
>Not the limited edition
It's like you hate your guns.
>>27806565
I didnt know they were running anything special
I didn't need to re up but I might as well
>>27802853
dumbfuck, motor oil is the best, they literally pour tens of thousands of dollars into R&D for it, while gun clp companies just jew you for a bottle of vegetable oil
>>27802763
this is amazing sex lube
Use Militec-1 for lube, I use just a drop on top of a Ballistol layer.
>>27806193
static friction isn't nearly as interesting as dynamic friction and wear resistance. all moving parts of a firearm have enough force to overcome static friction with ease.
Fireclean (Overpriced Vegetable Oil)
>>27803262
Finishing up a bottle of cleaner and lubricant and it works just fine. Nothing special, doesn't smell bad either.
I've got a couple of bottles of pic related sitting on my desk and am tempted to use it on my guns. It should fine anyway.
>>27806602
Pfft, can you even take the knot?
Clean with Breakfree CLP
Lube with Slip 2000
But I'm gonna try Weapon Shield.
>>27809221
yeah thats my small one
>>27802797
How does lithium-moly compare to red bearing grease? Bearing grease works fine but the tackiness makes it annoying to apply.
>>27803803
Can believe anon didn't read the thread
>>27809516
I can believe it too
>>27804128
>Doesn't pay out of the ass for lube
>"You're just being ghetto!"
>>27809565
Shut the fuck up you mong
...If all you care about is lubrication, how well do you think graphite would work for things like bolts and slides? How much does heat affect it?
>>27802853
you know what motors are made of? metal
you know what motors are powered by? explosions
you know what guns are made of? metal
you know what guns are powered by? explosions
why wouldnt the same oil work on both genius?
>>27802976
>>27802985
I heard somewhere that vegetable oil has some kind of graininess (no pun intended) to it that can scratch up guns. Is this not true? Or am I confusing it with mineral oil?
>>27802763
Usually I just nut in my gun
Im sorry if i am retarded, bit ho does ceramic grease would work?
>>27810075
I am a chef so i know. Vegetable oil oxidizes very fast and then it becomes thick. When now some dust comes in its like polishing creme wich on long time does more damage than help
>>27810061
At no point should gun oil be exposed to the full heat and pressure of firing.
Motor oil is vastly over engineered for the task of being a gun oil. It works better with heat and pressure and is also designed for crud cleaning.
>>27802776
What oil do you use on your rifles?
>>27809212
Just use their upper cylinder lubricant, it's ten bucks for 32oz, and has a similar viscosity as military CLP. Or use transmission fluid mixed with oderless kerosene (50/50)
Clean with Ed's Red. Use sweets copper solvent when needed.
>>27803803
Yes! /k/s obsession with dragon dildos strikes again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tmQw9Yhj-U
>>27811451
not really an obsession
it just makes sense that people who want the best would end up with the best dildos available
>1915+100
>Not using the best fucking lube in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvlmQES3cLQ
>>27811489
Very true.
>>27809511
red bearing grease is a certain type of lithium grease: lithium complex grease. lithium greases with moly additive usually are of the less tacky lithium soap type.
