So, who pays for their new weapons for the next contract?
>>21934078
No one, because they don't actually do that.
They just hide them.
>>21934089
>they dont actually do that
>picture of a guy actually doing that
>>21934117
lol
>>21934117
pics of them not doing it or it didn't not happen
Their daily pay more than the cost of their weapons. So it's barely worth mentioning. Especially since not all countries require them to do this before entering the port.
The logistics of getting the weapons out to them is more interesting though.
Carbine length is for operators
All other gas lengths are pleb
>b-but muh impulse!
Its a .22 projectile. If you cant handle the "recoil" you have other things that need more attention than your choice of gas tube length
/thread
>>21934144
>The logistics of getting the weapons out to them is more interesting though.
i was wondering about that myself, it's not like you could just mailorder an assault rifle from anywhere to anywhere in the world (at least i dont think that's how it goes).
are there any documentaries on how this equipment is actually being transported?
>>21934144
>Airborne gun shop
It has always been my dream to own one.
>>21934180
I actually just opened up a gun shop in a Zeppelin. We are floating over the North Atlantic right now
>>21934166
Info is quite restricted, since it's often a mix of legal & illegal circuits. For large companies, it's not too hard to buy the weapons they need legitimately. But getting them shipped legally is often a lot of hassle and not all countries allow it.
You also have to realize that armed anti-piracy troops are a fairly recent thing. Former anti-piracy experts used on-board things to fend off pirates. High pressure hoses, barbed wire, dumping ballast, cargo nets, and so on. This was often enough in most circumstances.
While there have always been very violent pirates, they were in general a minority. It seems like heavily armed pirates have become the new standard, and as a result anti-piracy consultants and experts have now gravitated towards armed troops. Generally two to four per ship for as long as the ship is in dangerous waters. As soon as the ship leaves the danger zone, they hop onto other ships or get picked up to get sent home.
Due to this, the weapons tend to stay at sea, as they hop from one ship onto another. Weapons are also often transferred from one team onto the next before heading home or into port.
>>21934078
I've always wanted to be a merc but never knew how. Anybody know how to go about getting a job as one without working at a group like Blackwater? If that fat durka durka in OP's picture can do it, I'm sure I can.
>>21934325
Sign up for the 18x program, complete a term of enlistment, discover how the world really works, completely abandon any sort of moral compass you may or may not have, sell your soul for cool gear, binge drinking, and the chance to murder people for fun and profit, and finally submit a CV and DD-214 to one of the many PMCs looking for people with your set of skills and moral void.
>>21934325
>working for Black water.
>>21934162
I don't know why the fuck you brought that up out of nowhere, but actually the main reason why people prefer midlength over a carbine length gas system is that the gas impacts the bolt carrier harder so the parts wear out faster. But yeah recoil and that aren't a problem if the buffer spring is strong enough.
>>21934325
>that guy
>"fat durka durka"
Holy shit, are you from asia where any body weight over 100 is "Fat"?
>>21934346
>without working at a group like Blackwater
This being because I refuse to (and probably can't at this point) enlist to the US armed forces and would rather not work for a legal corporation based in the US.
That dune coon in OP's pic surely can't be working for a legal US based pmc. How do I get in his position?
>>21934402
>dune coon
>fucking white
Are you literally retarded? Kill yourself you fat slob. No one lieks you
>>21934384
The dude has fucking love handles, moobs, and a gut sticking out to boot. Are you from Mississippi or some shit? Go deep fry another twinky, faggot.
>>21934412
Look at that dude's nose. That is either a Jew or mudslime. You must be braindead.
>>21934325
Blackwater's isn't around anymore.
Last time I looked into it the head of the company wasnt even Eric Prince. But, i'm way to lazy/under the influence to double check that info.
But, there are a variety of other companies you can work for.
I bet triple canopy would be fun
>tfw born to late to join executive outcomes and wage coups against negro countries
>>21934464
I never implied Blackwater was. Only groups like it. My point is I don't want to work for a company like it. I'd prefer to work for an actual shipping company. How do I find a job like that?
>>21934437
More midsliem for you, love.
>>21934078
I didnt know SaigaMarine's dad was a contractor
>>21934697
I never realized we had so many Mexican operators.
>>21934700
I came to the thread specifically for this LOL
>>21934756
someone shop a SAW and Saigas head on that guy
>>21934697
Nope. None of them appear to have large hooked noses. Try harder.
I work Maritime Security. We just keep our firearms on us now. Port Authorities do not want to try to disarm us anymore. That tried to be done in Indonesia and it did not turn out well for the Port Police.
>>21934896
Link to a story, if you don't mind.
>>21934959
At least he used or planned to use an AR. He didn't even give an AK the chance.
>>21934933
That story was shut down before the first shot was even fired and I do not work for that company. From what I heard; they paid something to the sum of $400,000,000 to the Indonesian Government to keep quiet. Money is power in this business.
>>21934247
Where do you sign up for this?
Well, it depends a lot really.
"Legal" mercenaries usually get them from local governments or whoever hired them.
The "illegal" mercenaries, the ones who have boatloads of money but no country to live in, have way more "fun" getting new weapons.
They have to get them through a gun runner, either directly, or through a connection. This is, obviously, insanely dangerous. Most gun runners are actually pretty cool people, it's the connections that are sketchy.
Source: I do work in Africa currently, mostly legal, but I can't get weapons through local governments because I'm white and not UN/US. I'll answer questions, and obviously you have no reason to believe me so inb4 full of shit
>>21934959
>>21934974
It would be perfect if it was an XM8 or F2000
explanations for this picture are always wrong. it's clearly an operator summoning a new AR after appeasing the gods of the sea.
>>21934078
>Throw away weapons into ocean.
>Magazines exposed from the side of the duffle bag.
And they expect a pass for that?
>>21935003
>white and not un
What does that mean? They are racist or you just can't pretend to be from Nairobi or whatever?
Did you ever kill a geraffe?
Did you ever pull out a bullet with a leatherman?
Did you ever shoot anyone?
What kind of stuff do you do?
>>21935028
there is no paperwork for mags or ammo
>>21934988
>imblying private security has half a billion lying around to throw at a government just to let less than a million in weapons in and out.
>>21934820
Second
>>21934990
You need military experience (or at the very least law enforcement experience). Usually you get in from knowing someone that went private.
And then you get hired by PMCs. Triple Canopy, Aegis, or more boring stuff like G4S or Securitas.
Why not just throw the lower over?
>>21935003
this you?
weren't you in some slavic army?
>>21935031
Any weapons/support from government we get is from police/military, who are insanely racist. Even if we had a signed and sealed letter from the president of the country to give us weapons or ammo, they'd say they did and tell us to fuck off.
I don't shoot animals unless I'm eating it, so no I have not. But boar is pretty good.
Leatherman no, generic multi-tool yes. Not out of me though, fortunately. The only time I've ever taken a bullet it passed right through and didn't do any severe damage. Hurt like all hell.
Yes, I've been in several firefights.
It varies a lot, we move around a lot. We've been up and down the west lately. Mostly security and escorts, some training, but the US and companies generally do that nowadays. Most recently we've been doing convoy escorts, escorting groups of people (mostly women, children, elderly) through dangerous areas to either large cities or national borders.
We did, for a while, kill poachers. But then government took that over.
>>21935056
Because not in every country the lower is considered the actual firearm. In many counties there are different relevant parts (barrel, chamber, bolt).
>>21935003
What's the most exotic firearm you've seen in Africa? I understand that part of the world is dumping ground for all sorts of arms, but have you seen anything that sticks out?
>>21935056
>Why not just throw the lower over?
Because most other countries are not as retarded as the USA. The lower being the weapon is something that flies in the US, but pretty much nowhere else...
Most countries count the bolt, the barrel, the sear/hammerpack and so on as a registered gun part.
>>21935028
He'll probably dump the ammo, keep the mags and accessories (like the sight he already took off).
>>21935043
A few of the big companies do. No, I am not disclosing whom.
>>21935052
I work for AMS.
Here is the recruitment requirements:
http://armedmaritimesecurity.com/index/articles.php?pageId=83&selectedOnly_pageid=0
>>21935070
No that's not me, and nah not Slavic. No.mil experience actually, it's actually a strange story how I got into this.
>>21935098
please do tell
>>21935095
>tfw I have yellow fever, but was never issued a card
>>21935081
Do you think blacks are inferior to whites (I mean on an inherent level, obviously Africa is a shithole)?
What kind of people do you work with?
What guns do you use? How do you get ammo? Is ammo standardized in your team or does everyone just use whatever?
What kind of vehicles if any do you use?
I'm sensing that you're more of a boots-on-the-ground low rent sort of operation the way you talk about "the US and companies." Does your team have assigned roles and special tactics or anything, or is it more of a "gibe money and we put boolit in badmans" situation?
>>21935123
Honestly it's not terribly interesting, I was 21 and decided to join up with a humanitarian group going to do medical work in Pakistan, the group I went with ended up hiring a mercenary group when we got over for protection. We didn't take any shots or anything during the 50 days we were there, but I got buddy-buddy with a handful of the guys. I went over again a few months later, and ended up staying to work with them. I started off doing translations (I speak a few languages) and ended up going to Africa with a few of them.
Since we're not fighting in *wars* we're technically legal mercenaries, but we're not corporate, we're cash only.
>>21934180
>be inna ocean
>need rifles to remove Rum
>call in gun store
>a Antanov plane flies over and yanks me aboard
>the cargo bay is filled with slavshit and in the middle is a Slavic guy sitting at a desk
>WELCOME TO KRAZY IVAN'S USED SLAVSHIT! DO YOU WANT AIRMILES?!
>>21935098
>it's actually a strange story how I got into this.
Well, share that story then (or at least the important parts of it), I'm sure many here would appreciate knowing about one of the possible ways to get into that business.
>>21934117
It's anecdotal evidence. How do you know this picture was taken in pirate-infested waters, or that this isn't really a rare case?
>>21935175
Honestly, the majority of the blacks over here are fucking great people, they offer us food and shelter whenever we need it. The military/police are taught to hate us though. The fact that Africa is a shithole really does make it hard to not be racist over here though. They're not the brightest bunch by any stretch.
I work with other mercs, friends of mine mostly. But I assume you mean the locals? I mostly interact with a few no-name government folks and a few U.N guys
In Africa? AKs mostly, ammo is readily available. We can get pretty much anything though, so a few of the guys get fancy German guns. Ammo we either get in bulk from our runner, or from the locals. 1,000 rounds of 7.62x39 costs like a chicken out here, so it's insanely easy to get
Mostly old shit, if anything. Old jeeps are the best because we can do all the maintenance ourselves.
Moreso the latter. We do a fair bit of escorts but as I said previously, we did hunt down poachers for a while.
>>21935193
>Skyhook equipped flying gun shop.
Fund it.
>>21935151
You are good then.
>>21935193
Funny story..We were in the Congo about 2 years ago and couldn't get to our runner, but we paid in advance. Since he's such a good guy, he actually had his pilot fly low over a village and pushed crates of funs and food off for us. Sat phones are the shit.
>>21935193
>tfw you'll never work for a russian gun running enterprise with several Black Lagoon style bases on Islands across the globe, supplying paramilitaries and armies across the globe with a fleet of Mi24s and huge Antonov cargo planes, doing weapon/vehicle drops and do most of their legal/illegal military logistics
>you'll never get to give important/powerful/shady people a small business card with THE NUMBER on it and instruct them on using the passphrase "...and make that TWO loads of extra cheese and artichokes" "TWO loads, sir?" "Yes" "And are you sure about the artichokes?" "Does the pope shit in the woods?" "???????????? sir! Your order please"
>you'll never ride through east Africa in an armed convoy of black/grey painted humvees, wearing a suit and a pair of raybans, selling rockets to faction A on your laptop while selling APCs to faction B on the phone at the same time
>you'll never get a world wide CC permit, diplomat status in every country that you're NOT prohibited from travelling to and will never have a shitload of true gun runner stories to tell to your kids or hot bitches in shady bars all over the world
Why am I even alive...
>>21935200
I did share it, >>21935178
Also, to answer OP's original question: I don't do anything on boats currently, but we generally toss our rifles into rivers or sell them to locals for a good meal before leaving a job or country. Getting caught in Africa with weapons, crossing the border, as a white man is a license to get your ass shot to shit.
>>21935379
>balling ass weapons dealer
>humvees
nigga please
>>21935095
Well not much happened in the highjacking game in 2013 given there is no news or reports on it....
>>21935502
>mfw I thought that was Eddie Carr at a quick glance
>>21935379
I once accidentally smuggled guns into canada but thats how it is
>>21935577
Surely that has to be the easiest thing ever.
>be in alaska
>have a gun
>be in the yukon
I'm guessing the border with the lower 48 is equally well-guarded in most spots, too.
>>21935610
involved a seaplane but yes you are correct
>>21935193
>call gun store via satellite phone, theyll be there in 2 hours
>get skyhooked into AN225 circling above your current location
>its actually a flying three storied military warehouse
>tanks and folded up helicopters on top deck
>APCs and light vehicles on mid deck
>infantry equipment, (il)legal documents, weapons, ammo and food on lower deck
>tell them what you want, pay and give them a location for drop off
>a few hours later, 70 containers and 300 paratroopers get dropped somewhere in the african desert, unpacking your shit before skyhooking up again
>"Your mobile coup d'etat delivery has been completed, here's a voucher for 5% off of your next purchase. Also, have this free pen."
one day, my friends
one day
>>21935650
>one day, my friends
>one day
It makes me sad that the era of this being even a remote possibility is coming to a close.
>>21935662
You play too much Metal Gear Solid
>>21935673
Literally never played that
The days where you can fly under the radar, so to speak or literally, are more or less gone anon.
>>21934117
Day/k/are detected.
>>21935650
>let's see that's 5000 crates of AK's, 20 MIG jet fighters and 40 T-90 tanks.
>do you want our reward card? it gives you 20% off if you complete a successful revolution.
>>21935693
I don't think it's easy to hide dozens of assault rifles or a huge cargo plane flying around Africa.
>>21935003
Can I work for you?
I have combat experience.
:^)
I always wanted to operate in Apefrica.
>>21934247
operator for sure. sippy backpack and a ronco survival knife with sawtooth blade, compass and bottle opener.
>>21935694
>Provides proof that they do in fact, do the thing he said they dont do.
>Is Day/k/are
How does it feel knowing you are this fucking stupid?
>>21935211
If it is so difficult to have guns as a White in Africa, how comes you walk around with them, then? What happens if a niggerpatrol stops you and begins to ask questions?
>>21934402
god, I hate summer.
>>21934697
Scientists from MIT studying global warming. (Hint: no weapons, not even a 9 mm)
>>21934959
>>21935005
>>21935702
>I don't think it's easy to hide dozens of assault rifles or a huge cargo plane flying around Africa.
>implying that shit doesnt already happen on a huge scale.
>>21935650
I can see how it could fit a couple of tanks, but thats a bit over the top.
>>21935662
>It makes me sad that the era of this being even a remote possibility is coming to a close.
Actually, I think the exact opposite is true. Organized gunrunning and mecenary work will become more available the more poor regions on this planet go to shit (primarily South America, Afrika, the middle east and south Asia).
Western society is tired of fighting unwinnable wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc and losing loved ones in third world shitholes. Meanwhile, in said shitholes a new generation of young people with too much hatred and too few opportunites due to the total lack of perspective and order is growing up. Since those people flock to extremists and terrorist groups like flies to shit, the situation there is getting worse and worse. It's not exactly news that the prosperity gap is becoming wider and wider.
Whole continents with millions of people are watching us getting fatter and richer everyday while they live in the same shit their forefathers had to live in, with no perspective but to take what they think should be theirs. Look at Israel and tell me that's not true, look at South America or Northern Africa, look at West Africa and South Asia.
Every time these conflicts blow up, the chaos and need for order in these parts rises. The arab spring started with a fucking vegetable vendor setting himself on fire in North Africa and while Tunesia is somewhat calming down, Syria is going to be a battlefield for years to come.
As sad as it is to say and see, I don't think the world has become much more peaceful in the recent years and we shouldn't mistake a troop withdrawal from one shithole (Afgh.) as an indicator of a more peaceful era to come.
>>21935818
magazines
>>21934078
vice did a documentary (15min) about the contractors in afghanistan.
>they are reaving and raiding
>they are out of control.
>they are being paid very well with our tax dollars
>>21935970
>contractors
>tax dollars
I thought contractors where always hired by rich gun runners and war reporters.
>>21935970
Propaganda piece. After the whole Blackwater shitstorm the DOD started cutting back on contractors and a lot of them fell under serious scrutiny.
>>21935989
The DOD hired a ton of them to guard various places and people.
>>21936020
>The DOD hired a ton of them to guard various places and people.
isn't that what the army is for?
>>21935947
Batteries for the big black data recorder.
>>21936051
>being this out of the loop
What are you, 15?
>>21935989
What? Most contractors work for the US State Department.
Is this even worth it? I mean is the cargo if these ship worth a lot more than the pay for these guys + weapons? Otherwise I don't see how hiring them is cost efficient
>>21936051
>isn't that what the army is for?
PMC casualties are not published, my good man.
You use PMCs to guard places, to guard convoys and so on. And they get killed, who fucking cares? They're not even in the statistics.
>>21936141
Have you ever even seen a container ship before? Even if one was filled with nothing but cheap cat food it would still be worth it. They're fucking enormous.
>>21936141
>Is this even worth it? I mean is the cargo if these ship worth a lot more than the pay for these guys + weapons? Otherwise I don't see how hiring them is cost efficient
The ship itself is worth guarding even if empty, dummy. Renting muscle isn't all that expensive in the grand scheme of things. For shipping, it's nickle & dime stuff.
I work in a dredging company, and a single pump costs 1 million euros. What the fuck do you think a ship costs?
>>21935650
Something I've been wondering. Is there a passenger version of those? Could fly a damn army in comfort.
>>21935702
You would legitimately take over some small countries with that much lol.
>>21936141
I've worked in freight..
there is insane amounts of money going around.
In Sydney. every container ship that sits out side of port for a day charges the dock $25k a day.......
have 4 ships do that, and suddenly your local goverment has to cough up $100k a day just to have ships float in the ocean..
thats why unions for docks have so much power and sway
>>21935610
North Dakota. Not too urbanized that they stacked it with border control, not too rural to be suspicious.
>>21935926
I don't think that was his point. The demand's going to be there, but the method of supply won't be able to be nearly as open.
You think the USA/whoever is going to let some big arms dealer come up who's so open as to do his business over satellite phone and out of a giant, distinctive cargo plane? Literally all he has to do is piss off someone who can track a plane and shoot it down and he's over.
Another layer to the impossibility is that the guy's talking about an AN-225, only one of which was built. Once, in flusher and more centralized times, it would've been conceivable that someone would've decided to build more. Soviet economy could've revived, right? Now everything is scaled back.
Even step down to the AN-124, and there's only 55 of them, only 26 of them in private hands.
http://www.neptunemaritimesecurity.com/work-for-us/
Just gonna leave that there.
>>21936171
>Could fly a damn army in comfort.
And if the plane gets shot down, the whole army goes with it.
>>21936514
I'm talking as civilian passenger, like a 747, not military use.
>>21935780
It's not the having guns that's difficult, it's finding police/military who cooperate. Like, if we get the guns brought to us it's no problem at all, but often we're on government payroll, so they're SUPPOSED to provide the weapons. However, police/military don't like us, so they don't provide. We go through our runner then.
>>21934247
This picture basically illustrates my dream job
>>21937038
>>21937038
top KEK
>>21935201
Urine idiot
>>21937038
Awww it reunited with its family
>>21934189
What gear ya got brother?
I could use some cheap shit
>>21934378
Midlengths have trouble with shitty ammo, their only downside.
Shit like tula will short stroke more often in a midlength. Also if the gun gets dirty.
>>21937489
>Midlengths have trouble with shitty ammo, their only downside.
>
>Shit like tula will short stroke more often in a midlength. Also if the gun gets dirty.
False, all I did was magdump about 3000 rounds thru my midlength spikes upper. Wolf steelcase from the bottom of my pile.
>>21935095
Those requirements are .... really low.
Basically if you ever worked on a commercial ship and served in the military you can work there.
>>21937696
Ye no shit. These aren't operators, all you do is sit around 99% of the time and shoot at black people in small wooden boats the rest of the time.
>>21937882
shit i'd pay to do that
>>21935211
Do the army/police consider you potential competition for their graft/theft, or as a threat to the stability of the government (and *their* corruption/graft), or something else?
>>21934247
>dat depth of field
>>21935095
May you tell us more about the company and work experience? Im a californian security officer with 3years experience.
>>21934117
If they really are doing it I think they'd be smart enough to disassemble the rifle, and throw only part of it overboard.
At least one pic to show the port security if they ask
>>21938420
this is exactly what I was thinking
Any operator worth his salt would realize how many non incriminating spare parts are in that rifle and he will probably need them later at some point.
>>21934134
>>21938494
when you earn 1k a day with nothing to spend it on...
a $300 ar is worthless.
>>21937038
>>21938527
The operator in OP's pic had the foresight to remove the mag before he threw the rifle overboard
If the parts had no value to him would he have saved the mag?
>>21938733
have you read thread??
if not.
Fuck off..
Also he is not an Operator. Hes a merc. Big difference..
Ps.
You should fuck off and come back when you have something of value to add.
>>21934697
>the dude on the left's glorious hair
>>21938733
I wonder if they use any sort of optics and just do a quick zero on them while at sea. Pull them off before they get to port and throw the weapon over-board.
>>21935989
>2014
>not understanding how the government works
The numbers game of pulling troops out of a warzone that every politician says, is actually withdrawing troops and then putting in contractors to replace them. Its a way to make numbers look better when giving a memo to the press to read
Merc here, decided to tripfag myself to answer some questions. I don't do maritime but I do do jobs across Africa, mostly low profile stuff, never done an assassination or anything badasssuperoperatorciasadsog but I will say it's dangerous as hell.
>>21938932
You didn't do shit.
>>21938947
I covered that earlier. I have no way to prove to you that I am what I claim to be, and I really don't care if you believe me or not. I'm not going to recommend that anyone gets into this job, it's a one way ticket. The moment you do your first job your life does not go back. I can never go back to the US, or most well-off countries again.
>>21938973
first contract?
>>21938973
did you start out green or did you have prior experience before entering?
Do they not realize how shit-easy it is to smuggle something on board of a fucking freight ship?
If you can get twelve mexicans across the border in a fucking toyota, you can get 3-4 rifles into harbor on a freaking football field in three dimensions. Those things are big as a motherfucker.
>>21938973
What kind of equipment do you like to use for jobs when you have a choice in the matter?
>>21938973
give me a job.
34. About to become unemployed. Have military background. No family.
>>21939010
it's not really worth the risk.
Besides they get payed royally, an AR-15 is like pocket change for them.
>>21939010
The risk is probably not worth the reward. Especially if you are dealing with being imprisoned in some African shithole prison.
>>21939065
enought with the riddles, how much?
>>21939074
lel
>>21939010
Yea, they inspect ships but they probably also do balls to the wall random inspections where they go over every square inch. Some of those custom guys have been doing it for decades, they know there way around a ship and where people hide stuff.
>>21938420
>If they really are doing it I think they'd be smart enough to disassemble the rifle, and throw only part of it overboard.
Implying the port security wouldn't jail your ass for clearly bringing in a gun that's missing a single part.
>>21938420
I've realiased the Error of this place.
YOu have a bunch of kids who have never fired a weapon in their life. yet have all these grand ideas which are fucking idiotic..
Yet these kids become officers and advisors..
>>21939145
welcome to administration of any field ever.
>>21934464
Didn't Blackwater just change their name?
>>21938986
Civilian escort in Zimbabwe. We were hired by ex-pats to get families out safely.
>>21939002
Completely green, made friends in Pakistan. See: >>21935178
>>21939012
In Africa, mostly AK's with some light gear. Ammo and weapons are plentiful there, so no issues. The few jobs I've done in ME/SE.A I've used Western guns, I had a G36 for 3 months in Egypt.
>>21939026
I can't hire anyone, we're not like..A company. Also you may want to get vaccinated to shit first too. None of the diseases here are friendly.
>>21939224
Academi
>>21939411
Why cant you enter the US anymore? Do pmcs' get their names black listed or something
Do you regret your choice
>>21939496
Not a PMC, lol. Wasn't that smart..Or experienced for that.
Sometimes, I really do. But honestly, I do get to see a lot of really beautiful places. It's dangerous, and rough, but we get months off at a time, and the money is all cash. Right now I'm in Hong Kong for a month. Not on job, just relaxing.
>>21939525
You didnt answer why you can go back to the us or other "well off" countries
>>21939580
Well, I technically could - But the legality of it is hard to explain. Mercenaries are illegal, obviously they're still used, but by becoming a mercenary you forfeit your citizenship and a lot more. In many countries, as I understand it, I would be arrested almost immediately after getting off a plane.
>>21939609
How would they know what you did if it was so unofficial? You aren't even in a company, and the pay was all cash...
>>21939609
You wouldn't mind me asking where you are originally from I'm assuming your from the states. Do you have any family back home? If you do, do you care enough to visit them and what not. Also if you don't end up getting shot whats the plan for the future?
>>21939625
>Hey, MercFromAfrica, where are you from?
>>21939625
>>21939675
I'm originally from the States, yes. I do have family, and I keep in touch with them as best I can. They've flown to South Africa to visit me before. I miss them terribly, but being able to give your family $10,000 in cash when they need it is also a very nice thing to be able to do.
>>21939624
We have bump ins with the UN fairly often. Never any conflict between us, but our names are known. Also I haven't been in the U.S in about 8 years now, haven't paid taxes in that time, owned property, had any form of ID...
>>21935926
>Western society is tired of fighting unwinnable wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc and losing loved ones in third world shitholes. Meanwhile, in said shitholes a new generation of young people with too much hatred and too few opportunites due to the total lack of perspective and order is growing up. Since those people flock to extremists and terrorist groups like flies to shit, the situation there is getting worse and worse. It's not exactly news that the prosperity gap is becoming wider and wider.
>Whole continents with millions of people are watching us getting fatter and richer everyday while they live in the same shit their forefathers had to live in, with no perspective but to take what they think should be theirs. Look at Israel and tell me that's not true, look at South America or Northern Africa, look at West Africa and South Asia.
>Every time these conflicts blow up, the chaos and need for order in these parts rises. The arab spring started with a fucking vegetable vendor setting himself on fire in North Africa and while Tunesia is somewhat calming down, Syria is going to be a battlefield for years to come.
War has changed.
>>21939714
so future? Got a girl maybe? You cant shoot shit forever
>>21939817
To be honest, when I got into this I never put thought into that. I'm sitting on enough money to live more than comfortably in a halfway decent shithole country, so that's the plan. Currently I live in hotels when I'm not on a job. In 2-3 years I'll retire, buy a house in either Zimbabwe or maybe Ghana and live a nice, comfortable life. I've got a girl, she's absolutely wonderful, hoping she's in the picture.
>>21939714
10K huh, goddamn now i'm enticed to get into this after service.
>>21939846
Is she a native?
Zimbabwe is cool with you living there for life?
>>21939846
Chances if get blown the fuck out before that happens?
And what is the closet thing you got to death
>>21939917
Zimbabwe doesn't have a currency, and I've got connections with the government to get me citizenship, so it shouldn't be too big a deal.
She's Bosnian, actually.
>>21939936
I wake up every day for work with the mindset of I have a 50/50 chance of coming back. And being shot sucks, a lot..Probably being stuck in a truck after it got hit with an RPG though. Burned my left arm bad.
>>21939909
I'm 8 years in now, I dropped $150,000 for a trip to Moscow last year.
>>21939846
>wanting to live in desert countries
disgusting
Why not the Ukraine? It's pretty nice over there.
>>21940022
Rough to get into, remember, I have to apply for citizenship there. It's hard to get into a country I've got no connections in. I thought about Russia for a while, but I'd have to go through some less-than-legal channels to get citizenship, and honestly, I'd rather not be indebted to certain groups for the rest of my life.
>>21939989
>Bosnia
What the fuck is she doing there, and why would she be willing to live in a place even crappier than her ex-soviet shithole?
Is there this whole white world in africa we aren't aware of?
>>21940022
>Zimbabwe
>Ghana
>desert
Pick one.
>>21940039
with the line of work you're in whats the most fucked up shit you've seen that you wuld have been better off not seeing
>>21939989
What was it like using the g36?
>>21940039
How many rapes have you accomplished?
>>21940052
Desert, humid pile of shit, same thing.
>>21940049
I met her *in* Bosnia, ya twit. I don't just stay in Africa, I get the FUCK out of here between jobs.
>>21940066
Child soldiers.
>>21940122
Very fun, felt like I was in Star Wars.
>>21940123
0
>>21940176
I know you say it's all dangerous and shit but a life of fucking around the world like that sounds really fun to me right now
>>21940176
With Ukraine as crazy as it is right now, you could maybe get setup there easily.
Do you feel like you've worked for the "bad guys" ever?
>>21940176
How shitty a shot is the average person you face in africa?
How did your "band" of mercenaries start, before you were in it I mean.
>>21940176
Did you ever fight for midland? Was your leader's name Griffith?
>>21940176
What is your first name?
>>21940277
Oh shit! Bosnia-fu gonna get raped by a black (african) demon!
>>21940176
>>21940039
>>21939989
>>21939846
>>21939714
>>21939609
>>21939525
>>21939411
can we get a timestamp or something? this is sounding like a lot of bullshit to me.
esp the part about you telling the u.n. your name, and subsquently gaining an arrest warrant.
>>21939989
GOD.....DAMN!
That is pretty motivating man. Albeit the salty reality comes with the routine.
>>21940296
GRIFFISUUUUUU
>>21940176
yeah a timestamp would be appreciated mate a view of hongkong would be great
>>21940207
It's fun at times, it really is.
>>21940214
I'm learning all of this this week, and I may give it a try.
Yeah, a lot of the times I do.
>>21940235
A few were ex-rhodies, and the guys I met were former SOF for Slav-land countries that lost communication to command when the wall came down.
>>21940277
What?
>>21940291
Ian
>>21940300
No, we didn't tell them our names. They just had them apparently. I'll work on getting a timestamp of something I can use. I mean, what constitutes proof of mercenaryship?
>>21940301
It's motivating if you like money, and can accept that you won't be in America for a long, long time.
>>21940381
What's your last name?
>>21940395
Not giving that.
>>21940402
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. What is your last name?
>>21940381
Again, how bad a shot are the average people you fought (and worked with)?
Are there factions that you recognize as worse or better than others?
>>21940420
The average floppie is about as accurate as movies portray. They're absolutely awful, but enough of them pointing in a direction is enough to fuck people up.
I don't have all too much to compare ourselves to, but I'd say we're pretty damn good.
>>21940418
Plenty to fear and hide.
>>21940458
What do you do for "fun"?
>>21940458
As far as morality goes, where would your jolly band of marauders go in the Evil-Saint spectrum?
>>21940420
As far as factions, not really..They're all mostly bad. We don't do wars, at least currently, just a lot of escorting and the occasional strike at another faction. We deal directly with local government, not warlords or anything of the like.
>>21938494
In a fair number of countries any firearms parts are illegal. Not every country is like the US where uppers aren't guns.
>>21940468
Video games when I can, movies...Traveling. I travel a lot, as you may have guessed from my responses here, I enjoyed Russia a lot, and Hong Kong is lots of fun too.
>>21940475
Neutral. We're just in it for the dosh, but we have turned down jobs before, and I'm sure we will again. We don't kill women or children, we don't rape, none of that bullshit.
>>21940503
Have you ever done a job where you felt you were totally out of your league? (first one doesnt count)
>>21934325
You arent smart enough.
Anyone who would make that statement woukd be lucky to make it as a cook, a laundry and bath specialist, or an MP.
>>21940518
Every last one of them. Never go in with the thought of "This is gonna be easy". Everything is going to kill you. Everything. Especially in Africa.
About 3 years ago we were in Somalia though, we were protecting a runner (Not ours, thankfully) while he did some work. We woke up every morning to prayers and rockets. It was absolutely terrifying. We spent four weeks being shot at almost the entire day.
>>21940503
I still wanna hear more about the G36, seems to me they would kind of be unwieldy.
>>21940503
I get that they took you on as a translator, but what are you now, still translating first and foremost?
What is your physical regimen like, how do you guys stay in shape and what kind of working out do you do?
Have you ever fought hand-to-hand?
Have you only fought in africa? Would you fight anywhere else? It seems like africa might be the best place to do this because who you're fighting are so bad at fighting (I assume).
>>21940548
They're a lot of fun, very expensive to import though. Germans do not lose them or leave them behind very often. Cost me about $600 to get it, ammo wasn't too bad though.
>>21940548
Theyre really comfortable from the one i held, never fired one doe
>>21940542
Can you tell me what gear is the most common for you to use, like clothes or backpacks or whatever and what piece of gear did you need most but didnt have at some point
>>21940563
I translate in certain areas, if my language skills are called for. But nowadays I do a lot of shooting and less talking.
Working out becomes largely pointless when you spend 7-8 months in the field at a time. That's what keeps us in shape mostly, but we do go to gyms when we have the chance.
A few hand to hand fights, sure, ambushes mostly. Ended very quickly though.
Africa, Middle East, SouthEast Asia, and once in South America. the SA trip was strictly to protect a runner who was dealing with new druglords and wanted firepower. No shots fired, no shots taken. Was a weekend trip.
>>21940569
Is there any more reliable way of getting into this sort of thing? The way you did it seems fairly random, do you know of a more guaranteed channel?
>>21940569
hehe expensive is $600? Can't fathom buying guns like that for that cheap. Not sure if you ever knew gun prices back in the states but $600 buys yugo AKs just barely.
>>21940602
Do you use weapons based on how much you like them, even if they're not strictly the best for the job?
>>21940594
You've seemed to made a mistake, friend.
Tripping (refusing anonymity) when not relevant is a misuse of it and invites animosity.
Hope that helps you.
>>21940594
I generally have a pack, and whatever fatigues I can get cheap in country. We never enter country/area with gear, we buy from the locals to get an idea of what we're dealing with. Governments have open checkbooks for us, and everything is incredibly cheap. It works nicely.
>>21940602
>A few hand to hand fights, sure, ambushes mostly. Ended very quickly though
Go on.
>set up floating platforms along edge of international waters
>buy merc weapons for dirt cheap
>resell to leaving mercs for large markup
what could possibly go wrong?
>>21940618
Why did you become a translator in the first place, how did you come to know so many languages?
>>21940602
How regularly do you end up having to kill people?
And how often do jobs end up with firefights?
>>21940603
I can't say I do, we've picked up 2 guys since I started, both were former soldiers we happened to meet at a bar and get talking to. Risky, but effective recruiting.
>>21940611
For perspective and general cost guidelines:
AK: $5
AK Food: 1000rds is $2.5
RPG: $150
RPG Food: $20/each
>>21940614
Cost, reliability, and availability of ammo. Lugging 1,000/rds for 7 months is hell. Much easier to get from locals/dead attackers as needed. AK is the go-to for us, though we do have other weapons available.
>>21940634
>Edge of international waters
And here's where you fucked up. If you're close enough to count as "edge", then you're close enough for them ("Them" being whichever government whose territory you are at the edge of) to fudge data about where you are and launch a mission against you.
>>21934078
So, it's legal to just throw guns in the ocean like that? I wonder how many guns have been swallowed by sharks.
>>21940672
>AK: $5
>AK Food: 1000rds is $2.5
>RPG: $150
>RPG Food: $20/each
This is so awesome I find it excruciatingly difficult to believe.
>>21940672
>AK: $5
>AK Food: 1000rds is $2.5
>RPG: $150
Jesus Christ.
I think this guy might not be lying...tell you what fucker, next time you're in the thick of it, can you take a picture of some fucked up shit with a little message next to it?
>>21940656
I went to school and took advantage. I was offered $25,000 to translate with Russians, and took it. Liked the money, and the guys, and decided to stay.
>>21940630
Generally, I don't have time for that shit. Just pull the sidearm out and magdump.
>>21940658
To be honest, firefights happen weekly on job, if not more often. As far as killing people goes, I don't really keep a tally. It's not something I enjoy, just self preservation.
Every job has firefights. At least assume they do.
>>21940690
I buy it-arms dealers in Africa have shittons of those floating around, sold to them from the supply depots of the more corrupt nations.
>>21940672
Really? $5? That is ridiculous.
>>21940672
>AK: $5
>AK Food: 1000rds is $2.5
Life is suffering
>>21940690
I could quite literally wave a $10 USD bill around and have an entire village of women line up to be fucked for it. It's really, really scary what it's worth over there.
>>21940692
I've got pictures of some fucked up shit back in South Africa, I'll see if I can't get them mailed over and I'll upload? It'll take a while but why not?
>>21940704
I can't buy just 1, that's the problem, runner doesn't want $7.50 for my gear, so we have to pay transport fees and things like that. All-in-all it costs me about $400 to get a shipment, then cost of weapons/ammo.
>>21940717
So, if US dollars have that kind of buying power, how much are you getting paid to do your job? If you don't mind me asking.
>>21940733
If someone paid you fifty thousand bucks, would you assassinate Robert Mugabe?
>>21940740
Reasons we work for governments, lmao.
I've been in 8 years now, so about $600,000/job? Averaging 3 jobs a year at current rate? That's a rough estimate mind you, bonuses from the runners and things like that keep us going. They're the real heroes here
>>21940769
ooooh
>>21940761
I'd pay $50,000 for the opportunity. I've been to Zimbabwe mate.
>>21940769
So a runner is basically an agent, right? Set up jobs, make deals with people, stuff like that?
>>21940686
I can´t wait for the future where we have LASER sharks roaming somali-infested oceans.
>>21940769
Fuck, I get paid less doing cyber work for the US. Of course, that doesn't involve shooting people, just inducing paranoia; I've probably dumped $17,000 in home security now.
>>21940804
A runner is a gun runner. But they're the ones that deal with presidents, generals, and others. So they're the ones who recommend us for jobs.
Example: General Xim!bop from the Congo wants to make sure his people in Shithole A get to Shithole B safely, because some rebel faction is going to raid Shithole A and rape and pillage everything.
He meets with the runner to pick up a shipment, and mentions why he's hoarding thousands of guns. Runner says "I can get them there." and we get a call.
>>21940769
So you get paid all cash in USD?
On average, how long are you contracted for each job? And do you spend a lot of time preparing for the job?
>>21938794
Automatic hair maintenance is one of his many abilities. The hair you see has been through days, possibly weeks, of walking through shooting people, walking through sandstorms, and shooting more people.
>>21940834
We get a duffelbag of money, or a deposit into bank accounts at the end of a job.
Typical job lasts 2-3 months, but we line them up back to back. So I do 3-4 jobs, then take a break before the next one. Prep time..Not really? I mean we all meet up prior, and get our shit straight. Figure out the game plan and then just wing it.
>>21934325
The dude is normal weight, not some skeleton that wouldn't be able the handle 7.62x39mm recoil.
You also are jelly he is operating and your dumbass isn't.
>>21934078
That guy obviously isn't american. An American would never intentionally hurt a gun. They love them.
>>21940871
So how do you access your money? I assume you can't just fly into Hong Kong with a duffel bag full of cash.
>>21940871
Well, damn. Sounds like a pretty exciting lifestyle, if a bit scary.
I could never be tough enough to live that sort of life honestly.
>>21940871
all your cash chilling in seychelles?
are you always armed?
>>21940871
How many people do you work jobs with? Is it just a handful of you guys giving shitholes the business, or are you guys a force to be reckoned with?
>>21940871
>just wing it
Well thats actually unexpected, do you go into these jobs blind with little intel or do you mean you have a game plan and if the plan changes you have a contingency plan? Or something in between?
I am specifically going to find out how to archive threads so I can save this shit. If this guy is legit which i feel he is this info needs to be kept safe
>>21940871
Are there ever jobs you all refuse because you don't think you could win the fight?
Are there "factions" that you all refuse to fight because you think you would lose (and someone HAS tried to hire you against)?
>>21940988
4chan chrome extension.
>>21940988
I'd be safest if it was just erased forever.
>>21940943
Bank it, generally. I keep some stashed in various places though. And a few thousand on my person.
>>21940945
It's not for everyone.
>>21940946
I'm armed as often as possible. I won't break laws in countries on visits though, so if they won't allow me to carry, I don't. Not worth the risk.
>>21940955
In total there's 23 of us, we have 2-3 contracts open at any time, so we rotate who's out and who's on vacation.
>>21940958
We have no intel. The government gives us very little to work with generally, they want no connections to us. General Xim!bop doesn't want to be broadcast on CNN as hiring the white devil to kill Africans. It's actually stupid though. We make a rough plan, and just go as best we can.
>>21940988
This
>>21934134
Careful there, anon. You're dangerously close to forcing an event into a place where there's no time for it to happen.
>>21940871
Adding to this question
>>21941003
Have you ever been hired to do a job that directly antagonizes a previous employer? If so, has this prevented said employer from giving you a job afterwards?
Also, I don´t imagine local governments get into bidding wars for mercs, do they?
>>21941003
We've turned down jobs that involve helping execute genocides or things like that. Never over a fight. We don't go toe-to-toe with armies, so it's mostly just poorly trained militias and the like. Factionwise, we ask our runner for his honest opinion. He's got no desire to put us in serious harms way, because we keep the money rolling for him. We buy from him, we seal contracts, we protect him.
>>21941041
Our runner has us shut down competition regularly. We either fuck up his sale, or blow up a few vehicles while he's there. Short-term jobs like that pay the best too.
>>21941052
can you post pictures of your scars?
Bullet hole(s) and burn please?
>>21940988
http://archive.heinessen.com/k/thread/21934078
>>21941067
>Our runner has us shut down competition regularly. We either fuck up his sale, or blow up a few vehicles while he's there. Short-term jobs like that pay the best too.
Could you explain this again? I don't coherently understand what you meant.
>>21941076
that shit's personal bro
