>>15306555
Atmosphere, characters, setting, story, gameplay, immersion etc.
All equally. I love this little universe ZUN talks about us with his releases.
>>15306555
I like the characters, and the designs.
I love it for many reasons, but non more than the music.
>>15306555
>>15306588
That guy hits the nail on the head.
Love.
as a weeb, I feel obligated to like it.
The games are fun, and the setting is probably one of the best of any games I've played
Because ZUN
memes and the porn
Touhou has everything. If I want look at unique and cute character designs, Touhou has that. If I'm in the mood for expansive lore and tragic backstories, Touhou has that. If I want to chill out playing a shoot-em-up with awesome music, Touhou has that. If I want to jerk off to more porn than I could ever consume in a single lifetime, Touhou has that.
It stated with Touhoumon/Touhou Puppet Play.
Then some offical manga like Oriental Sacred Place and Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth.
Then doujins from Bomber Grape, Omchicken and others.
Then the official fighting games.
Eventually I became interested in the lore of Gensokyo.
Then I started consuming fan games and fan webcomics.
At this point I'm the perfect secondary that has no interest in the Touhou plot, but I love the characters and lore.
To be honest, I'm a secondary. I enjoy some of the characters and the doujin works, but I don't really like shmups.
i like jp
It's always there for me.
>>15306555
Because otherwise, I'd have nothing to do.
ZUN is chill
There a far more 2hus i like rather than dislike
I still listen to the soundtracks and remixes.
Replay value
I like the mangas
>>15307300
>There a far more 2hus i like rather than dislike
That's a good point. Personally, I only dislike three 2hus; a 97% success rate in terms of likable characters is better than pretty much any other game or anime series I know.
>>15306555
Because everything about it is fascinating.
>>15306890
It's strange, I love Touhou, but I'm kinda getting tired of the porn.
I guess it's because it always seems to involve the same characters. Give me some with the LoLK cast doujinkas.
>>15307337
>Personally, I only dislike three 2hus
Which ones?
I really only like /jp/. The 2hu is just collateral.
>>15307641
Aya and Tewi, and to a lesser extent, Medicine. In a world that's basically a paradise full of generally good-natured people, they stand out as the few who actively try to make others' lives miserable.
You could argue for others, but there's something to mitigate those: Parsee can't help having it in her nature to be envious, and stays underground not causing trouble; Hatate is kind of like Aya, but is a total nobody and keeps to herself; Seiga is wicked, but at least she loves humans; Seija is a loveable anti-hero; and so on.
Aya and Tewi are just straight-up malicious. Medicine's description in PMiSS makes her out to be similar, though her route in PoFV made her seem like less of a total edgelord. Still, the goofiness of trying to make friends with flowers doesn't quite offset the fact that it's part of her plan to poison everyone.
The music and because of_____you
>>15307766
Wait, I thought Tewi gives good luck to the people near her, something like that?
>>15307766
Aren't they all shitheads?
Because it is mostly good music and gameplay that is challenging but usually fair. The fan art is also very good and prolific, and I feel like I wouldn't be able to fully appreciate it without playing the games.
There is also a community of autistic faggots to immerse myself in.
>>15306948
All of this and no danmaku which is the best and most important part of touhou
>>15307848
That's a lie that she tells people to scam them out of their money; she admitted as much in BAiJR, the same place that details her scam of pretending to collect donations for the Hakurei shrine. And then there was the chapter in WaHH about scamming the villagers into buying rabbits during a boom, only to burst the bubble and eventually create a new army of youkai rabbits. And of course, she's always making life difficult for Udonge just for kicks. She's a selfish, shameless, smug little cunt who could do with another flaying to put her in her place.
>>15307867
Then those three are the shitheadiest of the shitheads.
>>15308000
Aaah well, seems like I misunderstood Tewi's profile..
And the manga... well, I held back to continue reading, it's a spoiler to me haha (last chapter I read it was about Sumireko)
thanks for clearing my head
The games are fun and accessible even though I typically am not a fan of the shmup/danmaku genre. The music is absolutely brilliant. The characters are designed pretty well, instantly recognizable, and represent a wide range of personalities and things to enjoy. The youkai are cool and everyone can find someone they like. Gensokyo is a really interesting setting and very varied. Everything has a pretty good amount of canon content when you take the mangas into consideration, but also enough open endedness for artists/writers to have a wide variety of their own ideas about characters. The amount of fan content is staggering and pretty easy to enjoy.
>>15307766
>In a world that's basically a paradise full of generally good-natured people
>>15308056
Oh, sorry. If it makes you feel any better, that chapter was just one-off filler, nothing important.
>>15308091
You disagree?
>>15308108
Touhou characters are a lot of things, but rarely are the genuinely good-natured. Most are capricious at best and sociopathic at worst
I don't, but I've been on /jp/ too long to dislike it.
If /jp/ and Touhou weren't so closely linked I would never even think about it.
>>15306588
yeah, this
>>15308108
>>15307766
Very few Touhou characters are good-natured. That includes the heroes. Marisa is a thief who does want to protect Gensoukyou, but is mainly a thief. Similarly Reimu would rather do nothing if possible, but has to help Gensoukyou/grudgingly enjoys the people in it.
Lots of characters come across as ill-natured when you meet them, too. But of course -- most of them are youkai.
>>15306555
ZUN is a great artist I believe, as such, it leads to >>15306555
Personally, I'm thankful about the music... and.... the religious aura of the franchise
>>15306948
Honestly what is stopping you from just playing the main games?
Came for the music
Stayed for the community
>>15306822
This. I only come here for the lewds and the shitposting.
The music is what dragged me into Touhou.
Honestly I'm not a fan of the danmaku stuff but I tried it now and then.
It's unfortunate because I feel that music is enhanced when you experience it in the medium it was created for, but bullet hell doesn't fit my playstyle. I like to relax.
>>15309293
Stuff like Touhou and Yume Nikki help me relax.
its creative community
Music
and
Community
that's why i am 2 year touhou fag now,
I wonder if the people saying community are even active members of the touhou community
Do they make art, music or other merchandise, do they attend con's and meetups.
Or by community do they mean a small circle jerk of meme shitting autists who post on an image board.
>>15309518
You don't have to be a part of that community to enjoy what it produces.
>>15309518
You've uncovered the hidden secret of /jp/- we don't have stands at Reitaisai or sell our wares at Comiket and in fact we're isolated from each other on a global scale.
I lied to you all. I'm sorry.
Because KanColle is too casual for me
>>15306555
Literal meme girls.
Have you had a friend into touhou and talked about their favorite character?
Not on an anonymous imageboard.
It's a little wonderful, when they say their favorite touhou is someone you haven't really considered, and then they list the good things about her, and then a week later the same girl has climbed the rankings in your heart, maybe not to the top, but high enough.
It's how Patchouli and Youmu got to be such personal cutes.
>>15309518
I'm technically part of a doujin group so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>15306555
Cute girls, cool and interesting world, music. There is a lot to like.
>>15310004
Alice is my favourite because she's Alice! That's the only reason anyone needs!
>Wanted to contribute to a game I liked at the time
>Decided to make Aya Shameimaru.
>Spent hours with Aya looking at pic/editing pics. Reading various forum post on Aya to know her character.
>Got into the fandom
>Spent time at the 2hu Reddit for awhile.
>Attempted to play Aya's game.
>Eventually lost the passion.
>Went to 4chan
>Revived the passion by seeing a thread for Tengus.
So basically I'll say the characters, started in 2014 or late 2013, damn that was awhile ago.
Also, fuck Reimu.
>>15306555
Great music and characters, gameplay that is an actual challenge, pretty patterns that literally got me to play a genre that I used to think was lame.
I started when TD's demo was released. Played every single gameexcept HRtP, sorry but I'd rather play arkanoid.
Also the more I got into it, the less I cared about the old characters and fanon stuff. Nowadays I just read the official mangas and replay the games I liked the most from time to time.
Too bad there's no place on the internet to actually discuss Touhou stuff without shitty moderation, memes or bad people in general. Including this place.
>tfw got into it by all the Chen videos to waste time at high school back in 2011-2012
>first touhou game was the bootleg version of TH08 on the phone
>went into the wrong fanbase site(s) by mistake
>notice how badly I have messed up
>played from 01 to 7 & some fan games
>/v/ & /jp/ 4chan time
>Waifu/Favorite (would drink & smoke with) list: Chen, Kana, Shinki, Sukuna, Kasen & Yuugi
I had a wild adventure of bullshittery. Kinda busy with work, cause being an adult is "fun" & have a hard time getting to play games.
/jp/ is pretty much my free time/recess from daily life bullshit. Feels good.
>>15310069
>>15310227
whom u quoting?
>>15310004
Mokou and Reisen are my favorites, and Nitori was always really high on my personal list. She was really the only one I cared about in MoF initially. A friend of mine really likes Hina so it made me consider her more. She went from being underappreciated to someone I like a lot. Not cracking my top 10 yet but jumped way up. She's got a nice design, "goddess of misfortune" is a cool concept, and liking spinning is cute.
Plus Hinaface helps a lot.
>>15307766
>>15308000
>>15308227
Is there any good-natured characters left in Gensokyo?
>>15310227
>bootleg version of TH08 on the phone
what kind of phone did you have and how exactly can I run Touhou games on a phone?
>>15306555
I don't even play the games anymore, I just enjoy fapping to the doujins, that's all.
>>15307766
>Generally good-natured people.
What? As a human your fucked. There isn't anyone good in Gensokyo.
>>15310912
Name of it "Fantasy Night of TouHou Project" http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Fantasy_Night
I think it was a Iphone 3GS before I swapped to android after it broke by one fall to the ground.
>>15310941
I doubt you ever did.
>>15310837
This little girl here
>>15308158
>Touhou characters are a lot of things, but rarely are the genuinely good-natured. Most are capricious at best and sociopathic at worst
So they're us?
>>15311304
We're not cute.
>>15311470
How do you know? You don't even know me, sexy.
>>15310837
Hina.
I'll play the games occasionally, but I'm mainly into it for the lore and because of /jp/.
Amazing games, characters and the remixes are the best work out music there is.
Shits fire yo.
>>15309518
Sounds like you have some sorta personal vendetta anon. Tell us about it.
I got into it (and /jp/) back in 2009. I don't remember what led me here, who mentioned Touhou and why I took interest in it, but here I was. At the time, I was battling depression and I was losing badly. I was desperate to find something to distract myself with - something to do to take my mind off things. Touhou seemed like the perfect thing, I thought. And when I came here and interacted with all of you, talking about Touhou, I felt at ease for the first time in years. I felt like I could genuinely talk to someone about something I liked. And so, years later, I'm still here.
Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart.
>>15306555
music and the challenge
>>15311945
That's a nice story, anon, and one that is shared by many.
>>15311975
What about you? Tell us your story.
>>15312031
I'm too old for it to have been /jp/. I was saved by Ultima Online and usenet in the 90's.
Imageboards are a natural progression of 90's internet in my opinion, however. (Yes, 2ch started in the 90's, but I meant in contrast to web 2.0)
I know /jp/ and places like it bring confidence and a sense of belonging to alienated teenagers and young adults much like the virtual towns of Ultima Online did for me when I was that age. As you get older it becomes less important as your identify feels more "solidified", but it's a rough journey for many and it makes me smile to read stories like yours. However, we've also certainly lost some to Gensokyo and it's important to remember those as well.
End blog.
The universe. There are plenty of shmups I could play, but Touhou's cast, the character backstories and interpersonal relationships, the world they live in and its various settings all combine to make it into quite a spectacular fantasy world. Not one I'd like to live in, personally, but one that is certainly entertaining to follow. It's a very cozy feeling.
>>15312260
>gensokyo
>cozy
>awoo.jpg
okay
>>15310837
The Little Princess.
Shinmyoumaru started an incident simply because she's naive and was led to believe she was doing the right thing. Even then, she almost was.
>>15312271
Please use whole sentences, anon. I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Runs on a netbook and has cute girls
>>15306588
this
I also like how smug the girls are
I haven't participated in any of the touhou memes, nor do I masturbate to doujinshi. I am absolutely not interested in either of those things, I only play the games and save images of the characters
>>15312360
You must be a fun person
>>15312299
He's saying you're out of touch with touhou and probably in it for the memes
From the attached image? I just thought it was cute.
>>15309518
Maybe we would be in active communities if ZUN didn't block our every attempt, and if the big western Touhou fansites didn't ban on sight for questioning His word.
>>15307766
It seems harsh to hate on Medicine for acting as a poison youkai would but like Seija. I love Seija and she acts exactly like her character should, but she's a total dick and deceived one of the most innocent touhous to cause DDC. Characters like Tenshi and Kanako are pretty greedy and self-serving as well. Medicine's bio in PM is basically "she's extremely dangerous but a very new youkai who doesn't know how to hold herself in check", which I think is forgivable. I don't even really like Medicine that much but she's just dangerous due to her nature.
I would also disagree with Gensokyo being mostly good-natured people, as other people have said. There are plenty of touhous that act only according with their own desires. Yukari, Kanako, Tenshi, and the Taoists are all scheming to either preserve balance at all costs or upset it for their own desires. The violent ones like Rumia and Mystia are definitely malicious. Even Chen is known to attack humans to make sure they know she exists.
Aya and Tewi might be schemers (though Aya is honestly pretty harmless), and it's fine for you to not like them, but it seems like misguided hate if it's because everyone else is good-natured. Especially considering lots of characters have either bad attitudes or downright try to manipulate shit for their own benefit.
>>15308227
Sanae is kind of a dick too. It makes the games much funnier but yeah, Gensokyo is far from a paradise where everyone is nice to each other.
>>15310837
That being said there ARE plenty of good-natured people in touhou too. Most of the cast of IN is outright helpful to humans, especially Keine, Mokou, and Eirin. Okuu and Shinmyoumaru were just kind of naive and got manipulated in their incidents, they just wanted to do the right thing. Lily White is probably the most harmless creature ever.
tl;dr ZUN has created a world where there are a ton of characters who have extremely varied personalities and can be both nice and mean in different degrees, like real people are. It's not really black and white. And that's one reason why I like Touhou.
>>15313291
Fool, what authority do you have to disobey his rules and copyright?
The Japanese fandom follows his guidelines, so should we.
Anything ZUN blocked in the west was with good reason
>>15313855
>Eirin
Ehhhh
I don;t think I can ever trust Eirin. She's gotten better, but it feels like she treats human life too casually. I thought maybe she'd settled down quite a bit by some time late in Forbidden Scrollery, but then she sends the heroines of LoLK off on a mission without describing the mission. Furthermore, giving them a suspicious elixir and not explaining the actual effects (if it was canon, Sanae would've lost her divinity post-LoLK)
Lunarians, can't trust them easily.
>>15313969
Eirin is a typical introverted genius who expects others to follow her train of thought without an issue, since it seems obvious to her. You know, like, "Nobody should have a problem understanding this since I don't." INTJs do this a lot in real life.
That said, her BAiJR interview makes her sound a bit wacky. She even emulates a hick accent.
>>15308347
They're cancer and because of how they are translated they make no sense.
>>15306555
It's the quintessential fanbase of complete freedom of expression.
Now with a franchise like that, you bound to have idiots and hyper autist on it. And granted, we have. A lot. But i appreciate those who are creative to the medium. Those who make music on countless iteration and genre, those who make doujins that are not only consists of yurishit, cuteshit or stupid jokes that are funny for the sake of it. (There's a quite number of smartly written one). It's the franchise that created a sub genre of indie game where people are free to make indie game based on this indie game. It's the franchise where you are free to express freely about what you love about it without any basic limitation.
If you're not fond of the fandom, the canon side is also good. It has a simple narrative on a world that is complex and intriguing. It doesn't treat the reader like idiots and dumb them down like any Japanese media that aim at the moe crowds. It's by far one of the smartest of the otaku-based franchise. It didn't promise you that everything is chuckle and sunshine like your pointless SoL anime. It didn't market the character just because it's cute on a setting they themselves don't give a fuck like KanColle. It didn't try to be edgy while having pretty girls and stuff like any Type Moon stuff. It's just a perfect balance of cute, chill and disturbing. Something only ZUN can pull it off.
>>15308347
Not him, but Shmups just aren't my thing.
>>15313998
>They're cancer
What? Do you go to /v/ or something
The only thing I don't like is how some people think that their way of enjoying touhou is the only correct one.
>>15314032
Nah, I'm just a normally autistic /jp/
>>15314033
There are many correct ways to enjoy Touhou, but not playing the core games is not one of them.
>>15314038
Then what do you mean by cancer?
I used to be a fan of fighting games but I was never very good at them.
Then I picked up SWR and Soku and started to get more serious about fighting games. Now I'm really good at all sorts of fighting games and I've met so many people in the FGC that are my best friends now.
It's probably not what most people would really think about when it comes to Touhou but SWR and soku started all of it for me. I don't really play the shooters any more but the fighters will always have a place in my heart.
>>15313998
I think you're saying things but not thinking about what it is you're saying.
>>15314061
It's literally impossible to follow anything in the main games. The exchanges between the characters are so disconnected because of the translations. That's why I don't care for them, or think they are an integral part of being a touhou fan.
>>15314071
read the raw scripts
they're right there
the translations are only really noticeably for the first few windows games
>>15314071
The story is just there to tie together six stages of shmup levels, it doesn't need to be Salinger quality. It sounds like you're saying you don't like fireworks because you dislike the matches that light them.
>>15314071
>That's why I don't care for them, or think they are an integral part of being a touhou fan.
That doesn't make sense. The core games are where the majority of canon setting, story, and character interactions come from in Touhou. The scripts are well-documented even on basic sites like the Touhou wiki.
People are free to not really like shmups, Touhou is a very accessible one but it can be an annoying genre and no one should have to like anything. But considering the content of the main games "not integral" is baffling. The games are integral because all canon, fanon, and supplemental material like the mangas build off the games.
Even if you don't like playing the games knowing the story of them is basic ground-level stuff. Calling them "cancer" when they're the foundation of the series is kind of ridiculous, honestly.
>>15314090
>noticeably for
noticeably poor for^
>>15314098
>Touhou is a very accessible one
Unless you're bad at bullet hells.
>>15314098
I'd rather watch IOSYS videos to be honest, mate.
>>15314146
Only one way to fix that and it involves playing them more.
>>15314154
Well can you at least have the decency to not talk about it?
>>15314146
I hate to borrow a Dark Souls zinger. But you have to GIT GUD. It's the most primitive way of playing game.
I'm here for the boobhus.
>>15306555
Mainly due to esoterica and mythology
badass memes
>>15314183
What if they plain just suck and don't want to spend dozens of hours plying a game they don't really enjoy?
>>15314261
Reasons why to like the Playthrough (no commentary) videos. there are some people that can't/incapable to play some of the games & have to watch it all on a video.
>>15313291
You got shit on not for making content, which tens of thousands people do without incident, but by attempting to crowdfund your content in a way that was explicitly banned.
You were also banned for being an inconsistent, filthy liar and all-around shitter. They were more patient with you than anyone had any right to be.
>>15313991
Is Eirin autistic?
>>15315287
Eirin is lawful evil. The high-functioning variety, with more focus on law than on evil.
She has more regard for contributing to society than she does for human life.
The music resonates with something deep inside my mind.
>>15313855
A few things here. Firstly, I know that most of the characters are far from perfect, with flawed personalities, selfish motives, and so on. But just because someone has flaws or has done something bad, that doesn't mean they're fundamentally evil.
Also, how you see the characters depends on your perspective. From that of an ordinary human villager, everyone else ('heroines' included) is a mysterious at best and downright terrifying at worst. The villagers are almost completely ignorant about their world and what's happening around them.
However, as the players, we see the other side of Gensoukyou, the one that all those characters actually inhabit. We know that when the weak youkai attack humans who wander away from the village, they're doing their job to maintain balance. When the powerful youkai cause incidents, and when the heroines beat them up in return, they're all doing their job. For everybody in the know, it's all basically a game, and they all share the same goal of keeping more or less the status quo.
When there's no incident to be solved, former 'enemies' get together and drink and have parties. By 'good-natured', I was referring to this, that they can all get along with each other and are basically nice when they're not causing trouble.
However, Tewi, Aya, and Medicine try to make life miserable for others all the time. Medicine is kind of forgivable because she's young and overzealous, but Tewi and Aya are both liars who try to discredit and destroy the Hakurei shrine, one of the worst possible ways to not play by the rules in Gensoukyou. And Aya spends all her time spreading lies, destroying reputations, and sowing discord, while Tewi is a brat who just revels in being an absolute piece of shit. They are fundamentally evil.
>>15315478
>try to discredit and destroy the Hakurei shrine
oh come on now
Reimu does that herself
>>15315478
I disagree with Aya, but whatever.
>>15315514
Oh, the wiki page says? Is there a source for that? Because in BAiJR, she made a point of downplaying the incidents and Reimu's part in solving them. And all of her articles/interviews are basically just excuses for her to say whatever is on her mind, including spouting random speculation, with no regard to any kind of journalistic integrity.
>>15315478
>And Aya spends all her time spreading lies, destroying reputations, and sowing discord
Aya rarely *lies*. She believes in the value of the truth, it's just that she chooses carefully which truths to tell and which to withhold.
>while Tewi is a brat who just revels in being an absolute piece of shit.
Tewi is probably the oldest being in Gensokyo who doesn't come from the Moon, though. She's, like, the great-grandmother of all the other rabbit youkai.
I can pretend I'm edgy and cool when others find out I play a hard game.
>>15315623
Welp, dang he saw what I wrote before I deleted it. I didn't want to debate this. I don't see how she is downplaying the incidents or Reimu's involvement. I mean she herself said an incident on such a massive scale could only be handled by the human shrine maiden.
>>15314261
Then I guess Touhou isn't for them.
>>15314291
Nobody is unable to learn how to play, it really depends on how much you want to improve yourself.
>>15315758
>Then I guess Touhou isn't for them.
This. Why in the bloody heck would you want to get into a shmup series if you hate shmups? I don't get it.
>>15315639
>Tewi is probably the oldest being in Gensokyo who doesn't come from the Moon
And yet nowhere near the most powerful, so she's bitter that she has to pretend to take orders from Eientei and can't cause any incidents on her own, and takes out that frustration by ordering around a bunch of even weaker rabbits and doing petty bullshit to cause everyone trouble. Not to mention, selling off innocent normal rabbits to be abandoned or killed, just so she can get a few more youkai rabbits to boss around and feel a bit more powerful. Not only does she not care about anyone but herself, she doesn't even care about Gensoukyou. She'd be dangerous if she were able to actually do anything.
>>15315685
>I didn't want to debate this.
too bad w
Re-read the interview for Reimu's article ('Flower-Viewing Continues at the Shrine'). She insults and outright calls Reimu a liar with regard to solving the incidents, and says that she won't print any of Reimu's accounts of them. Clearly, she wants to make Reimu look bad. Aya knows Reimu's work is an integral part of keeping Gensoukyou running, yet wants everyone else to believe that Reimu is slacker who does nothing but drink and throw parties, and doesn't deserve money or faith. What a bitch.
>>15315955
They like all the parts that don't have to do with shooting.
>>15306555
The rape
>>15316055
>parts that don't have to do with shooting.
So, basically complementary material? That's like playing Team Fortress 2 for the hats alone.
Actually, it's more like watching GI Joe for the blue lasers, but you get my meaning. Touhou is 80% about shooting. If you don't like shooting, you may have picked up the wrong series.
Fun games and more porn that I can consume in my miserable life span
I don't.
>>15316079
I'd say it's more 50% shooting. There's the music, the characters, the fanart, the doujins, the fangames, and videos.
>>15316118
95% of which stems from the STGs. Fan content stemming exclusively from print works is somewhat rare.
>>15316079
Not at all. Even setting the fan works aside, there's an abundance of official material outside the games. And if you're interested in the characters or setting, the side works have a lot more to offer. To get the full story, you need to see the endings, but there's still more than enough for someone to enjoy the series even without playing the games.
That said, even a total shitter (like myself) can clear the games on Normal, so there's no excuse not to play them.
>>15316135
That's just not true. A lot of fan material isn't even based on the events of the games, it just uses the characters. And while Akyuu, Kosuzu, Kasen, and the fairies aren't the most popular, they're still in plenty of fan material.
Also, even the stuff that's based on the events of the games can be enjoyed with just a general idea of them. ZUN even said that the in-game dialogue isn't particularly meaningful.
>>15315478
I disagree about Aya and agree with >>15315639. Reimu accuses Aya of lying but gives no real specifics on it. Aya says she doesn't know for sure if Reimu solves every incident and wants to interview more people (which she and Reimu both agree won't do any good), but for her part Aya credits Reimu for solving every incident just as a matter of fact, which is honestly the way it's always been in Gensokyo. All her papers on the incidents note Reimu going to solve them and it all clearing up almost immediately, including in your article where Reimu mentions that she solved it already, which Aya reports noting she is truly a shrine maiden. It's just the way it goes, an incident happens, people complain until Reimu gets off her ass, she solves it instantly, and people shrug and go have a party. She also tells people in the paper to go see the Hakurei Shrine while the flowers are in bloom.
Reimu IS a lazy, snappy drunkard who is reluctant to take action, that's why she's fun as a protagonist. Everyone takes her actions for granted and then takes advantage of her shrine to party which is amusing. Reimu's actions being downplayed is just one of Touhou's biggest running gags since the characters all know how strong and important she is because she either beats their ass or could very easily do so. Similarly, Aya's newspaper is considered a joke by most people. It's played for humor.
I really think you're reading far into things that aren't there, these characters aren't as outright malicious as you make them seem. It's not like Aya, Tewi, etc are not included when everyone comes in for big parties. It's okay to not like Aya, I'm not trying to judge you for not really liking a character. I don't even like her that much, but it seems like an unnecessarily harsh judgement on her specifically when characters like Tenshi exist. She caused an earthquake out of boredom, destroyed Reimu's shrine, and then put her own Keystone in it afterwards. I love Tenshi but she is a huge fucking asshole. Tewi is just the embodiment of a prankster god which is fine to not like as well, but both of these characters are mostly just intended to be comedy characters.
I guess I just don't really understand your anger for these characters specifically. You seem set in it though, so you do you I guess.
>>15316211
for reference, the article on PCB notes Aya seeing Reimu going into the clouds, saying she'll teach the culprits a lesson and that she expects spring to return in a day or two. She says something similar for EoSD, that Reimu is on the move and things clear up after she goes to do shit.
>>15316211
So glad I don't have to debate
Thanks, dude, I'm a simple pleb and don't know everything about 2hu yet.
>>15316211
I just don't buy the 'played for humor' bit.
For Aya, you make a good point, that her articles are less one-sided than I remembered. Still, she has nothing better to do than look for gossip all day long, and is always ready to take advantage of people for the sake of a story. Perhaps it's just an extension of my hate for real-life reporters, but I can't stand that attitude. I think it's insidious.
For Tewi, she goes way beyond being a trickster. She's just like those little shits on YouTube who do 'pranks' involving physical harm, property damage, or psychological scarring, then try to get out of the consequences by shouting 'IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO'. Taking things like that too far isn't funny.
Also, I'm not really qualified to speak about Tenshi since I can't play SWR, but wasn't she just too naive to really understand what she was doing? Doesn't that put her on a similar level to Medicine?
>>15306822
Only correct answer
>>15316080
>>15316326
Actually, what does Sakuya thinks of Flan?
i don't
>>15316271
Tenshi is naive, but she's fully aware that her actions are causing havoc. Her ultimate goal in SWR is to scare and rile people up so they would come fight her. So, while her end goal isn't large scale destruction, she still inflicts massive property damage and carelessly threatens people because her whims are more important than other people's security.
http://aidanlphotography.weebly.com/
This is why I dedicate myself to shrek and am saving money to buy myself some clorox.
>>15316271
More or less what >>15316368 said, Tenshi is naive and the way she acts resembles a spoiled child, but one that is selfish and believes relieving her boredom is most important, so doesn't really care about destroying the Hakurei Shrine. She also believes the earth-dwelling youkai and humans are naturally beneath her.
I've always felt like the Keystone thing is the tip-off to know that Tenshi knows exactly what she's doing. She convinces Reimu to put it in the shrine while rebuilding it (having destroyed it in SWR with an earthquake), telling her that it'd help protect against earthquakes, and NOT telling her that it would effectively make the Hakurei Shrine a shine to her clan and that if it's removed later, it'll cause a bigger earthquake. Yukari spots it and calls her out for it during her campaign, so they have to tear down the shrine and rebuild it a second time.
>>15316169
Even if you could sustain everything off the fandom alone, none of it would exist without the shmups. In fact, if the main games weren't so vague it wouldn't leave nearly as much room for fan interpretation in the first place.
>>15306555
i like that it's not generic fantasy but ratherly a mishmash of fantasy
>>15315478
>try to discredit and destroy the Hakurei shrine
>who are tenshi
to be fair that shrine was destroyed more that 5 times in reimu lifetime and you forgot the mamizou agenda in it
Agree in respect to tewi tho
>just so she can get a few more youkai rabbits to boss around and feel a bit more powerful
the think is, no one know why tewi want more youkai rabbits and why others help her
>>15317116
*thing
>>15306555
Because girls, and only girls. And cute girls. Lots of hats.
It also makes me feel less lonely.
>>15311945
You might be me, because that's around when I got into Touhou.
It helps fill the massive, empty void in my heart. Touhou will never fill it, but at least it helps me get through the day. I hope to one day be around people that aren't horrible to me, so that I can ween myself off my various addictions such as Touhou.
>>15316992
Of course. It's not that I'm trying to say the games aren't important; they're the core of the series. But there's enough other material to attract even people who don't like shmups, and one can avoid being a total secondary even without playing them. And again, I'm not encouraging that, just pointing out that the series is not '80% shooting'.
>>15316079
80% is quite an overestimation. ZUN himself has said that he composes the music first, and then designs characters/stages/bullet patterns/etc around it. So, shmups might be the "complementary material" here.
>>15306555
I got into Touhou because I like Video Games, and, most importantly, the video game music.
Started with SWR because I was scared about fucking up too much in the SHMUP genre and wanted my first SHMUP to be something more popular, like Ikaruga or some shit as I believe you should play agoodgame from every genre at least once or twice.
Eventually I broke down and played the main games, starting with 6. I fell in love with some of the characters, mainly Komachi, Marisa, Yuyuko, Youmu, The Prismriver Sisters, Nitori, and others. Then I went into the mangas, starting with the Inaba series as I enjoy lighthearted comedy and fell in love with Kaguya, Tewi, Mamizou, Yukari, and even more.
The memesare just the cherry in top.
The games are fun and are what got me into the series to begin with, although I'm mostly here for the fan works now.
But the more I learned about the setting from the other works, the less I enjoyed it. I'd never want to meet a good half of the cast.
The lore, music and thriving community.
>>15307703
i feel the same
>>15316271
>For Tewi, she goes way beyond being a trickster. She's just like those little shits on YouTube who do 'pranks' involving physical harm, property damage, or psychological scarring, then try to get out of the consequences by shouting 'IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO'. Taking things like that too far isn't funny.
In what?
She hasn't done anything dangerous outside of that spinoff series about her and Reisen which isn't really canon, per-se, but like an official spinoff.
Tewi's mots diabolical act has been selling pet rabbits even though she knows humans are going to abandon or kill them, thereby turning them into more youkai rabbits for her own purposes.
She also fucked with a shark once.
>>15316368
She also made it so there's an apocalyptic threat eternally lurking beneath the shrine.
Tenshi's kind of a dick and I'm pretty sure nobody likes her. Well, that's what she wanted though.
>>15328029
so is celestial seija?
The music, I could listen to pretty much every main game OST for years and never get bored.
>>15306555
The porn, I don't even play the games but I can't masturbate to any doujins that aren't touhou related
>>15306588
a few years back in a psicology class we had to choose a character to match our personalities, looked up kokoro thanks to a friend, based my tesis around her, now im here alongside ya'll, as a proud touhoufag
>>15306555
Because its full of cute, lewd, and interesting girls!
1. Gameplay
2. Music
3. Character designs
4. My life sucks
>>15344423
so you're autistic?
>>15306555
I enjoyed the music and dived head-first into the series without knowing too much. Only read beginner tips after a couple tries ofsubterranean animism ezmodo.
I used to like the games but I've blown my lid too many times to count at the fact I can't 1cc any game on normal over the course of a year. I just can't remember more than 3 or 4 stages and I usually forget the 5th and/or 6th one by the time I finally manage to make it.
I enjoy the music most but I'm unhealthily obsessed with the games. I got rage sickness from playing PCB for 2 hours earlier today.
>>15345284
Keep at it, it took me a year to get my first normal 1cc (IN) and others followed pretty quickly. One of the best ways to get through was to practice the stages you have the most trouble with.
I also had the issue of getting rustled when playing and dying to stupid things, but I learned to shrug it off and also know when it's a good time to stop for the day. Much easier to do better when you're not frusturated.
>>15345314
I don't know anymore. It just feels like I'm jaded when I play any of the games now. I run into stupid shit several times, I can't even (death)bomb half the time when I press the button.
I thought I'd get better playing these things but I'm still about as bad as I was when I began. I still can't clear PCB on easy using all continues/max lives, don't know why I bothered with normal today. This shit is depressing.
>>15345338
>over the course of a year
>on easy using all continues/max lives
That's bad. Like, really bad. Like, you may actually have problems with your muscle coordination or reaction time. To not only find it that difficult, but also not improve at all after a year, doesn't seem possible.
You know you can hold shift for focused movement, right?
>>15345735
I know that. I've researched, I've tried to practice on lunatic and go back down. I've watched replays. I've played a lot. I've looked for as much information as I could.
My reaction time ranges from ~310-400ms.
>>15345756
that's pretty bad, experienced gamers usually score between 150-250ms (including input lag from the system) from what I remember reading on a FPS forum
>>15345756
>>15345765
>Anon is LITERALLY "slow in the head"
Oh god
>>15345830
Yeah I guess I am. I tend to space out frequently when I do anything. Like I'm just not there sometimes and when I snap back into it. In the case of danmaku, I panic because I've lost track of where I am in a clouded screen of bullets.
>>15345849
Maybe anemic? You wouldn't be able to play mario brothers effectively if that's the case.
>>15346539
I don't.
I'm a huge faggot.
>>15345849
Just bomb whenever you panic.
>>15345849
I get that a lot. Could be ADHD or depression and disassociating.
Characters, setting, story, music.
Also it explores all different kinds of mythology which happens to be one of my shticks.
I don't.
I like being here because /jp/ is a silly place.
>>15345830
Anon is IRL Cirno.I am also slow.
>>15347417
It's funny you say thatthe first time I fought Cirno in EoSD on normal I lost all my lives to her.
I'm antisocial.
Everybody I personally know as a primary fan is antisocial to some degree. And I don't mean internet antisocial either. I mean legitimate DSM-V antisocial behavior.
I dunno, probably the setting. Consciously I really enjoy that aspect the most.
I like funny hats.
The memes, Jack
The music (and its arranges) are what got me into the series, but the story, characters, and setting are what kept me here. Although unforgiving, the games are also incredibly addicting.
The neverending supply of smut is also nice.
>>15347519
The DSM-V is well-known to not be a valid medical document. It lists a lot of things which are clearly not problems or disorders, but simply things which are nonconformist.
I'm here because of yukkuris.
>>15352384
You're right but the guy probably would fit into ICD definitions just fine.
Our understanding of mental health is about the level that the understanding of physical health was a century ago. Getting there but missing key elements like genetic factors or antibiotics.
>>15352431
I think the missing key element is that mental health right now is highly subjective, and really lacks objectivity. Usually, people who think being suicidal or depressed is a mental disorder can't define the phrase "mental disorder" in an objective way.
I like Touhou because of the games, but by now I mostly play Hisoutensoku, I hardly play any of the Danmakus unless a new one comes out.
The real reason why I'm still here and why I still like Touhou is because of Suwako and nothing else.
The first Touhou-related thing I came across was some of the orchestral arranges of the music back in the late 2000s. It wasn't until years later though that I finally decided to look up what Touhou actually was, only knowing vaguely that it was a shooting game series. Feeling bored one day I decided to try giving the games a try. I feel fortunate that I didn't learn about the setting or know about any of the characters, let alone the fan memes, beforehand. I got to learn about everything from the games first, starting from 6. Once I had gone through each of the games I began getting into the rest of the official material, as well as diving more into the fan stuff. I now basically love every aspect of the series. I still actively play the shmups (Lunatic No Bomb and scoring), eagerly await the newest albums from my favorite circles, read lewd and non-lewd doujin material involving my favorite characters, and browse /jp/ every day for touhou threads. Sometimes I wonder if it's okay to be as attached to the series as I am. Thinking about it now, I don't think I've actively sought out and listened to a non-Touhou song in two years.
I can't remember for the life of me.
But i either came for the porn or the music, and stayed for EVERYTHING else.
Multi-faceted main characters.
>>15359425
Translate it.
>>15359710
Something about "coming home" or "going inside". My Japanese sucks.
>>15359710
>Sangetsusei Reimu
Mostly drinks tea on the veranda. If she weren't playing around you're be dead.
>Suzunaan Reimu
Ruthless towards youkai. Gentle towards Kosuzu. Unexpectedly dense.
>Ibarakasen Reimu
The most emotional among these. Despite that, also the stingiest. Possibly the dumbest.
>Original STG Reimu
THE CRIMSON SLASHER. "Then, shall we begin? Your execution."
>Kourindou Reimu
The boldest clothing, but actually, seems the most different from the original games.
>Bougetsushou Reimu
Uninterested from start to finish. Gets things done when they have to be done. Occasionally makes some pretty nasty faces.
>>15359825
I THINK Kourindou Reimu is supposed to be younger. She's seriously tiny there.
>>15310912
I'm new to the series so forgive me if I'm wrong but this is what looks like a boss only version of EoSD.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sorais.th1danmaku
There's also this by the same guy.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sorais.bakastg
Both for Android.
>>15360029
Well, CoLA is set pretty early on in the Windows series, if you discount the new chapter from Strange Creators.
>>15359425
>>15359825
>>15344738
This is actually 90% of /jp/ but they are seldom to post here.
Either this thread is full of samefagging or the people I mentioned earlier are just few autistic faggots that only talk about cute 2hus everyday on /jp/ as if their lives depend on it.
>>15365355
At some point people run out of things to talk about and just spend time lurking instead.
>>15347444
You haven't "gitten gud" until you 1CC EOSD on normal, which is still the hardest game in my opinion.
>>15370313
EoSD 1cc was much easier than SA or DDC, out of the ones I've been able to get.
Then there's LoLK that I'm still working on and doubt I'll be getting it in a while.
What makes EoSD hard on normal anyway?
>>15309177
im beginning to wonder what shitposting means these days..
>>15370313
I haven't beaten EoSD normal, but even losing all my shit to Cirno I did somehow manage to get past Sakuya after about 3 tries.
But if we're comparing difficulties, UFO is full of bullshitthis was the one I dedicated myself for most of that year.
SA is infinitely worse, though I liked it enough to at least get to Orin on normal.
LoLK I gave up on Clownpiece after struggling to get through the rest of the game for 4 hours.
Overall it took many, many tries to get to where I did with those games. But even my mental slowness could get to Remilia in a few tries.
