Can we have a thread for Japanese card games that aren't Yugioh? /tg/ really isn't fond of these types of card game
I would be so into card games if I knew anyone who played them.
>>15206809
The Pokemon and Yugioh card game crazes were some of the most fun periods of my life. Now, it's either learn to like Magic or nothing.
Tried ws and chaos some years back. The language barrier is too much.
>>15206235
Not a card game like Yugioh or magic but I have lots of fun playing Tanto Cuore with friends. It's a deck building game similar to dominion where you use love points to employ maids that give you various abilities to buy better maids and get more VP to win the game. The games are great and illustrations are really nice.
>>15207403
Weiss Schwarz has some sets released in English, although it seems random as to which series get localized.
>>15207422
Tanto is fun. Favorite card right here, both for the art and the effect.
/tg/ isn't fond of them because they're not good.
Games like WS base their appeal on having cute girls and being associated with established franchises, rather than on being good games with good mechanics that are actually fun to play. And as the other anon said, add the language barrier to a game that's already just a hodgepodge of half-baked, poorly-executed ideas, and it becomes completely impenetrable.
There are much better ways to both look at cute girls and play card games.
>>15207929
What do you think about MtG and Pokémon TCG?
>>15206235
I purchased some of these, though I don't think it was Chaos TCG, in 2012. But I don't play, I just got them as a collecting item.
>>15207929
It's fucking hilarious to make /tg/ angry by mentioning /jp/ card protectors or playmats.
>>15207929
>good games with good mechanics that are actually fun to play
Such as? And don't say Magic, we all know it is better than every other TCG ever
>>15206235
Is Force of Will Japanese?
My only friend pretty much pushed me into it, too bad he lives far away so I'll never use the cards I bought till I gather enough courage to go to stores and stuff.
>>15207422
Still one of my favorite deckbuilders. Here's a template I made for custom cards that I've posted before.
>>15208394
Example.
>>15208393
My one friend plays this. It seems Japanese enough. I know on the mats or whatever it has the name in katakana along with English, plus the art style.
He wants me to play it, but I still prefer Magic. I'm sure I could learn if I actually tried, though.
>>15208393
it's a half dead game in japan.
>>15208393
I decided to pick that up because I liked the art and I thought it would be nice to pick up a card game that doesn't have decades of meta. Haven't found any players, though.
>>15207422
I have been playing that game with a couple of 2hu friends now. One of them broke down and bought it so we're playing it everytime we hang out.
who /WIXOSS/ here
>>15208561
Ironically enough I've seen that the most active community is Italian.
There's so many random card games flooding the marker every time. You'd think people woulf get tired of them and stop buying new anime/otaku culture based playing cards since most of the time you'll play with them twice if you're lucky enough to have friends and then drop them.
Does anyone still play Duel Masters? I wasn't even aware it was still being printed until a few months ago when I saw that the anime is still ongoing.
>>15207929
If /tg/ liked good games, they would drop D&D altogether for having such an infantile and simplistic view of "morality" compared to something like the World of Darkness games.
The localized version of Heart of Crown is coming to Steam later this year, maybe we can play that. It seems like it plays similarly to Dominion so it can't be that bad a game.
FLIPFLOPs (who I originally learned about from Touhou doujinshi) actually released the original PC version at C83 but I don't think anyone cracked the DRM, and everyone was either too poor or too illiterate to play it so that never became a thing.
>>15206235
Ok,
Vanguard was sort of cool but pwoer creep was stupid. At least my genesis cards look nice.
Battlespirits made no sense
weize schwartz was not a game but more of an ad
>>15210662
I have a single pack of cards, i really like the cards, from what i understand the mechanics of the game are similar to those of Duel Masters which i used to play as a kid so i'm pretty interested but i don't have money for more cards, nor do i have anyone to play with at the moment anyways so it will have to wait.
>>15206809
Agreed with you, but I only know Western card games like poker, and I somewhat know bridge. Finding someone willing to play bridge is hard.
I have taught people how to play mahjong with my mahjong card set though.
>>15210662
I bought a couple of starter decks.
Piruluk a cute.
>>15225013
Vanguard is literally the most balanced its ever been at the moment with only 1 clan being unplayable shite. Out of 24.
>>15206235
Would you play an official Touhou TCG? Like, Touhou Project-only thematically, some not very original but good game mechanics, flavor text by Zun, Zun-approved art by Zun-approved artists or even by Zun himself, official manga and magazines contains promo cards and boosters, and so on.
>>15226077
It's one of those things that would be neat but has a really high opportunity cost.
For the same amount of effort of flavor/art the games and derivative works could be taken to the next level
>>15224972
Not that this is the place for it but World of Darkness is a terrible system. White Wolf is bad at making games.
>>15226268
Shadow Run isn't really good either, though it has better design decisions than D&D.
>>15228553
I know, I'm running it. It's really bloated.
>>15206235
/tg/ doesn't even like yugioh. They only like Magic. Personally, I play Cardfight Vanguard once a week and I have played Weiss Schwarz in the past. I have yet to meet someone who plays Wixoss or any of the other obscure tcgs.
>>15225013
The power creep went down drastically. Its really balanced and fun right now.
>>15225787
Wixoss really looks fun.
>>15226077
I'd be hooked in by the flavour text alone.
>>15228709
>Wixoss really looks fun.
I actually really like the mechanics. It seems fun to play even with TDs. Too bad it's going to be even harder to find someone to play with than fucking Weiss Schwarz.
>>15224999
I'm playing that right now. (The JP version tho.) Sadly nobody cracked it.
Waiting for the steam version so I can play it online.
Pretty fun game.
>>15231355
Well, at least Weiss Schwarz has gotten kind of popular. Its a pretty fun game and I would probably play it if there was a community near me.
Wixoss is just too obscure. No one fucking knows or plays it even though it had an anime. There is simply too much competition already for a game like that to succeed.
>>15231355
Nice Homu. I sold my green and went with a Mami+Nagisa deck because I pulled Nagisa's SP
>>15207068
Pokemon and Yugioh still have pretty large communities, but if you haven't played them in a while they will be very different than you remember. If you want to make money though Magic is your only choice though.
I have been playing Force of Will recently. Really like the game and enjoy having low cost singles. The meta currently favors only a couple of setups on the highest level, but it is tons of fun to build decks around specific characters that you like.
>>15231355
I really can't stand Weiss Schwarz myself. The entire gameplay requires you to take more damage to use more powerful cards, which puts the entire strategy into one narrow alley. While waifu collection may be nice, a lot of the art comes from somewhat blurry screenshots of their respective shows, that aren't vector traced or anything.
I would love to try Wixoss or Force of Will. Tempted to get the FoW Kaguya and modify it to look like Touhou's Kaguya.
Stumbled upon a table-top RPG Touhou, don't know if this counts. There's a pdf of the translation too.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Danmaku_Yuugi_Flowers
>>15245458
Sure do wish I had friends.
I've been in a touhou shop today and they had a card game with starters, boosters etc. I wonder if people actually play it
>>15245458
There was another one of these as well which was a bit more substantial.
Unfortunately neither game is particularly balanced. There was one that was made and playtested heavily by some Something Awful members but I don't know how it turned out.
>>15224972
I used to play duel masters with printed cards with my siblings all the time.
Apparently no one else knew about it.
I tried to show it to my freind but the almost non existant supply of cards in the stores was now completely non existant
>>15246627
I knew about it but here yugioh completely destroyed any chance of it lasting more than a week.
>>15246416
Dude you have a Touhou shop? Never seen one in my life before.
>>15246416
Wait... there are shops dedicated *entirely* to da 2hu?
I'm guessing only in Japan, right?
>>15246674
>>15247912
Yes, Japan. It's http://store.surpara.com
It's small, but they apparently have an event where you can dress as Flandre
>>15207422
http://dominion.ne.jp/toho/
Speaking of Dominion there were so many reflavored Dominion games using IPs like Majikoi and Etrian Odyssey
>>15248762
It's pretty amazing how the reflavoring actually works out pretty well. None of those cards seem like they were forced into their roles at all.
>>15226268
Do you mean mechanically? When I GM, I pretty much just ignore the rules and go by whatever would make the story better. And one place where World of Darkness really excels is the lore and setting. I'm still in love with Werewolf: The Apocalypse since my highschool days.
Does anyone wanna play wixoss?
Should I make a steam group so that it'd be easier to get into touch with each other?
>>15250210
for what
>>15250210
I don't even have steam.
I like how force of will compared to other games is lower budget. (I still can't afford competitive regalia based decks though)
>>15251039
Is this game not dead? No one in the US plays it. I mean if I'm going to play a dead game I'd rather play some of the shit bushiroad shits out constantly.
>>15252341
Not at all. The community is still growing. There are ARG circuits for the game, so the game probably won't be dying anytime soon.
Does anyone wanna play on webxoss?
>>15252341
The game is getting more attention since the Grimm block update. I can't predict the future but things should go well for a while.
>>15252341
There was a big tournament in Las Vegas last weekend
Does anyone play MtG Commander with weaboo rethemed commanders? Right now I'm working a B/W Necropotence deck with Ghost Council of Orzhova as Higanbana from the 07th Expansion VN, and a R deck with Adamaro, First to Desire as Mammon from Umineko.
>>15252341
it's currently the #4 CCG in the US and supposedly has a bigger player base here than in Japan.
>>15252767
What is ARG? I don't want to invest in a game just to have it die on me.
>>15254484
A "pro" circuit for card games. You don't have to be actually good to participate in any of them though. Unlike Yugioh the ARG community for FoW is relatively big.
>>15253643
Do you actually alter the art? If so pics?
>>15256984
I'm just making proxies with Magic Set Editor, with a copy of the actual card on hand if people complain. An actual on-card alter would be a cool way to pimp it out, though.
>>15255438
I might have to buy into FoW then if I can find some people near me to play with.
>>15206235
I used to play a lot of magic, when I did though there was this one guy that would come to the shop carrying the "Fruits Basket" card game with him (he had other games to. Poor guy was a boardgamer in a den of Magic neckbeards). I never played with him, he was a remarkably autistic little faggot, but I do somewhat regret it.
I tend to not like a lot of Japanese card games because while I do like the art it's often just a bunch of character portraits without any scene or story attached. That game that's just a bunch of cropped promotional art in particular seems really dumb.
I still want to play Hanafuda though, ever since I saw Summer Wars I wanted to try it. The cards are very fetching as well.
>>15207422
Maids are second only to princesses on my list or role fetishes and I will definitely be getting this game now that I've been made aware of it. I don't even have anyone to play it with but I'll figure something out, maybe hire a maid.
Also, question to /jp/, which card game has the bestanime?
>>15257944
You should look at FoW, there is an actual story with each block having its own story
I agree with you in the typical Japanese CCG. Bushiroad needs to learn why its card games aren't long lasting.
If you're going to play you should remember that it's only cheating if you get caught.
Buy your copy of The Expert at the Card Table today!
>>15257994
>not the Royal Road to Card Magic
Stay pleb
>>15258005
Stay shit kiddo I would wreck you at the card table any time.
>>15258025
Jumbo cards only
>>15210662
>>15225787
YES. WIXOSS needs more of a fanbase outside of australia/SEA. I own most of the SD and collect the cards, but not worth learning the game more than the basics because just playing online is boring.
>>15231355
>>15232690
WIXOSS's dub sucked, and the incest sub plot might have hurt its chances. Weiss is multiple IP's so easier to market over here. Its a shame the game is largely luck based and some sets are much better than others.
The mechanics to WIXOSS, and reading on the metas, make the game play seem very interactive. Duelmasters is also a game done right, in terms of powerlevel vs collecting vs fun. Its a shame WOTC cant keep a game alive unless it has a 20 year old IP.
Need help deckbuilding for wixoss. I'm a little lost. Are there any english resources for the game? I see a lot of meta stuff but it's all in runes.
>>15258917
the wiki is great for translations and english explanations for the game, and a few of the Australian/SEA players have blogs.
>>15258924
try the subreddit as well (yeah yeah I know)
>>15259826
It doesnt seem very active
Any Luck and Logic players here? English release soon hype!
>>15264564
Game seemed like a even more all over the place weiss with the ' we want the wixoss crowd ' done wrong.
>>15264564
I learned how to play.come to the demo booth at AX
WIXOSS is love
>>15264564
I've yet to actually try a demo of it, but what's the appeal?
In other news Buddyfight is a good game deserving of attention but the name must scare off so many people
>>15272097
cute girls and tug-of-war combat phases
>>15272197
It has cute girls, but it also has males, and the chances are that one card with male art will be necessary for a good deck eventually so I'll be passing.
>>15272097
>Buddyfight
isnt that the 'old' vanguard? How is the game play?
>>15257944
I bought hanafuda cards and I'll never have anyone to play with ;_;
>>15272689
Decks are comprised of a single character and the partners they fuse with, so if you aren't using a male character or partner you'll never have to see one.
>>15275331
until later sets. the game play is also all over the place, just look at the set up for the game- there are like 20 different card areas. The anime was also garbage, and I really tried to like it knowing the game was getting a english release.
>>15257944
you can play hanafuda in the Fate/hollow ataraxia extras
it's not bad, just ordered a set
>>15272689
Buddyfight is new-ish, at least newer than CFV.
Gameplay is kinda vaguely reminiscent of MtG in that you are leading an army of monsters and can use spells to support them. An interesting quirk is that in terms of flavor, the player can also involve themselves in the fight by equipping a weapon.
It definitely is intended for a younger audience, as evidenced by a lot of the cards being things kids think are cool - some random examples being a huge three headed dog with machine guns strapped to it, a robot ninja, the unholy lovechild of Godzilla and Galactus, and one of the more iconic cards in the series is basically you summoning a gigantic flaming sword to kill your foe! That said, it also has stuff that will resonate with adults- one of the 'worlds' of the game (think clans if you know CFV) is filled with references to things like GaoGaiGar, Sentai, and in a couple months PreCure/Sailor Moon.
If your local game store has the new starter decks (pictured), they're a great buy if you wanna try the game out on the cheap without much care for how your cards look.
I really like Heart of Crown, that and Resident Evil are my favorite deckbuilders. Don't really like Tanto or Barbarossa. Kunitori is ok.
Weiss Schwarz was entertaining for a bit but once the novelty of playing with my waifu wore off I quickly got bored.
Recently I've played Fire Emblem Cipher a couple times and it's fun enough.
Don't really know anything about Force of Will but want to try it.
>>15277977
I don't know if this is still true but FoW had really fucked up balance when I tried it.
>>15277957
>and in a couple months PreCure/Sailor Moon.
tell me more.
what is the typical age range for players? at the LGS most MtG/Weiss players are older while the Vanguard/Yugioh are on the lower end.
>>15277977
>>15278009
FoW is just MtG with half the art being bad and a tweaked resource system. Considering its rotating format I dont think its worth getting into.
>>15277977
>Heart of Crown
I just learned about this before checking up on this thread again. Becoming a pretty princess sounds right up my alley, when is it coming out in English?
>>15279182
>tell me more.
There's not much more to tell you at this point, not a lot of cards have been shown yet from the set that introduces them.
As for the age range bit, from what I have seen, I haven't seen a lot of players in the game's intended age range. For example, at a large event of about a hundred players, it was almost entirely young college-age-ish adults.
>>15280918
September, supposedly
>>15264564
Has someone announced an online simulator for it yet?
I don't know how anyone pays for nip card games. The market is very volatile and there's a good chance that your 1000 dollar deck will become worthless in a few months if your game only has one banlist.
>>15282474
what game isnt like that?
>>15281099
do you have a link for more pictures of that set?
>>15282507
At least in magic your cards keep some value because of the multiple formats.
Also anyone on webxoss?
>>15282507
Here, lemme just give you a link to the wiki, and you can look up stuff on your own.
http://buddyfight.wikia.com/wiki/Future_Card_Buddyfight_Wiki
>>15282570
it isn't updated in a while
Vanguard has some cute cards
>>15282726
It finally got wx11 a few weeks ago.
>>15280918
Q4 2016.
You can still get the Japanese version and play against CPUs so you can start learning the basics.
Here's the card list (Japanese) if you want to translate them:
http://www49.atwiki.jp/hatokura/pages/14.html
Just tried out Luck and Logic and it's fucking dope! This is my new weeb game
Anyone have any similar videos? Want to know how they make custom sleeve sets
https://youtu.be/5vF8AE0or-c
>>15289338
Oh my god, I was looking for that video for forever thank you for posting it
>>15291766
no problem- still hoping through twitter links and recommended videos to eventually find one showing how they make custom sleeve sets.
I want to fuck piruruk
>>15293258
get in line
>>15293258
>>15293324
Any Wixoss players in the Madison area?
>>15296583
the NA player base seems very disperse. Most concentrations are in Australia/SEA and apparently some in Mexico. Shame it never caught on like weiss did in LA/NYC.
I'm planning on shilling Luck and Logic pretty hard at my locals. We have 3 Weiss players and I'm not sure about Vanguard. I really want Luck and Logic to be alive, at least locally.
>>15297904
I wish the anime had been better, but might pick the game upwhen it dies in less than a year and the locals cant even give them away
The other japanese games at locals are all popular (Force of Will, Vanguard, Yugioh, and a handful of Weiss) so I cant see another one breaking into it. Anyone play Vanguard? Some oof the art is nice and thinking of getting into it.
>>15297941
yes but only the cute cards
>>15297948
I want to play cute girl cards, and know weiss already. what should I play in vanguard?
>>15297941
FoW is decently popular, Yugioh is obviously real popular, Weiss not so much but the owner plays so there is always someone to go up against
>>15298004
Probably Neo Nectar, Genesis, Oracle Think Tank or Bermuda Triangle
Is Vanguard actually alive? I hear people shit on it all the time for being power creeped as fuck.
>>15298285
It's really quite balanced right now which is surprising. Every clan has 2-4 "competitive" decks but budget and rogue variants always have a fighting chance due to the game's mechanics
>>15298437
Is there a decent scene? I never really see anyone talk about any games besides yugioh and magic, and very occassionally pokemon.
>>15298487
I'm in Melbourne and the game is pretty popular here. Obviously not MTG/Yugioh levels but it's a good 4th place after those two and pokemon.
3rd Place in Weiss Munich boys. ENG format is the only good Weiss Format currently, JP went to shit.
>>15298487
I just competed in Springfest Munich last weekend, traveling from Sweden. Was decently alive, for a Springfest event we got 32 something teams, meaning 96 people for a minor event.
>>15298004
Permuda, Genesis, Neo Nector, Oracle Think Tank, are almost exclusively cute girls clans, Spike Brothers have cute triggers, Aqua Force has Some cuties and husbando materials.
>>15299028
Uluru is current cutest trigger
>>15299060
nah
>>15299076
fight me cunt
>>15299082
I play tier 1 whatcha gonna do to me bitch ass faggot
>>15299091
Nociel :^)
>>15299096
Same
>>15299099
Refros limited to 1 can't come soon enough
>>15299105
Nociel will still be tier 1, thanks for new support in gb07 boys
>>15299115
True dat m8, just be less faggy without refros loops.
>>15298437
>Every clan has 2-4 "competitive" decks
I wouldn't say that, there's clearly plenty of rogue decks, and stuff like that, but in general, there's perhaps only half of the clans with a tier 2+ deck.
>>15299210
Aside from Murakumo every clan can compete.
>>15299218
Rogue decks can compete, yeah, but I do not count rogue decks as competitive.
>>15299225
So non competitive clans are what; Murakumo, Touken Ranbu, Oracles, Gold Paladin, Genesis and Dark Irregulars? 5 out of 24 aint bad plus one joke clan.
>>15299238
I'd argue for Narukami, Nubatama, Spike bros, Pale moon, Bermuda, Megacolony and perhaps Great Nature as well, some have topped wit them, but only very occasional tops, therefore I consider them rogues, especially with the stories of some getting carried extremely hard in team league.
>>15299283
I can maybe relinquish most of those just because they're inconsistent but Great Nature is legit. It's hard to say what really constitutes a top deck anyway since all Japs want to use is Sanctuary Guard and Revengers. Team League is stupid best of 1 shit, at least in my country.
>>15272197
What kind of deck can I build using her? She is the cutest but her cards are pretty shit compared to the other girls
>>15300139
I mean she doesn't really have many cards yet, hell her set hasn't even been released yet.
>>15299028
Congrats anon. Doesn't that mean you get a paid trip to the next big tournament? What did you play and what did you see at the top tables?
>>15300880
Only first place get a trip paid, only top 2 gets invited to the Continentals.
I played Deathgun/Blue SAO, teching heavily against Titans(1/0 DG level reducer into 2/1 DG destroyer), because I thought there would be a lot of Titans, but there was only 1 in the whole Tournament, which I met in top 8 and just ravaged.
Top 8 consisted of, what I saw, 2 AoT(1 Corps who got 2nd place, 1 Titan), 1 SAO(Me), 1 Pdiva(4th place), 1 Kancolle (who got first place). I think there was another Kancolle at least at the top8, but I wasn't really paying attention to them.
>>15253643
I have altered art of a few magic cards. (Touhou and Idolmaster) Although I have no deck that's weeaboo themed. Also I would like to play Commander/EDH with anyone from /jp/ sometime. I doubt it'll ever happen though.
>>15301176
Just use Cockatrice and find some interested anons here or on a /jp/ related IRC channel.
>>15302504
Are you an interested anon?
>>15306228
I'd be interested if you're okay with a newbie.
>>15306523
I'm perfectly okay with a newbie. Is there any way to contact you or do I have to go on Cockatrice to find you?
>>15306569
I'll set up cockatrice tonight or tomorrow and we can play. I want to go over the rules one more time as well, i'm a complete newfag
>>15307231
Is it going to have a password and if so, what's the password and what time exactly? "Tonight" could mean anything depending on the timezone. This is all pretty vague.
>>15307279
I'm US central time. I don't actually have cockatrice installed so that's what I meant by "set up". I'll be checking this thread so we can figure out roughly what times we're both free.
>>15307422
I made a game room on the Woogerworks Cockatrice server under the description "/jp/" and a password of "Otaku". I'll just sit in that room semi-afk waiting for anyone to join.
>see a card you want badly and rarely shows up on auction
>cant afford it
every time.
![51KWMTSW5EL_large[1].jpeg_v=1426394512.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sM3Uc8B.jpg "51KWMTSW5EL_large[1].jpeg_v=1426394512.jpg")
Are TRPGs accepted in this thread?I wish I could read this.
>>15312746
Potentially
>No gurofag /jp/sies to play this game with
>>15313176
I played a game of it once. I had fun. The system is really interesting from a design perspective, but open to some serious exploitation and/or nonsense (friendship beams).
>>15312746
There are a few Japanese tabletop RPGs I want to try. Sword World comes to mind, but a few other series I like have game tie-ins and I'm curious to see how those work.
>>15312746
Didn't the Daicon video reference a couple western tabletop games?
