Incompetent edition.
Old thread >>15006242
Ryukishi is a witch.
I am a witch.
beato
batora
Is it ok want to be Lambda to hug Bern?
Why is Beato's furniture so dull?
Trianthology is the first 07th Expansion game that isn't directed by Ryukishi himself, right? I wonder if it will feel any different
What are Kinzo's ten desires?
In Ep 2 Battler cried when Rosa suspected him and was upset throughout due to having to suspect his family of murder. But in Ep 3 Battler is so quick to pose anyone as an accomplice so he can solve the closed room situation. What's up with that? .
>>15064876
shitty writer
>>15064876
Character progression. Battler realizes between episode two and three that if he wants to end up winning against Beatrice, he's going to have to be realistic and suspect others.
I wonder how that translation is progressing.
What would Lambda's tongue taste like if you bit it off?
>>15066978
Vanilla
>>15066978
Worse than bern's
>>15064876
Battler clearly went through character development after having lost hard core in the second game. He's been hardening himself the entire episode. By the time that scene came around he was prepared to point to whoever was the killer, and defeat Eva-Beatrice. Battler's had a very consistent character progression the entire series
How much was wrong with the Studio DEEN adaptation of Seacats? Everyone hates on it hard without explaining anything. The way I see it, it isn't a 1:1 adaptation but I've seen much worse.
In case anyone were wondering, the two Japanese names on the list of composers are Luck Ganriki and Rokugen Alice
>>15068542
The feeling I have is that it looks like a cheap adaptation for the hahaha.wav *cackle* *cackle* exaggerated fanservice on boobs. I don't know. Feels dumb.
>>15068542
It had no good qualities other than the voice acting, the pacing was shit and they handled all the scenes building character terribly or just skipped them entirely, so it was hard to feel attached to any of them when they got killed. It was just awkward all around, plus the animation and color schemes were hideous during most parts so watching it for the visuals was out of the question. The only thing that made it memorable was the gore/Maria and how bad it was.
It did give birth to the damedame subs version though, so it's not all that bad.
Country Girl's version of Rika is literally just Erika, at least when she is being more civil in front of the adults, with Bern's hair and smirk. I'm looking forward to seeing how sadistic she acts in the zombie timeline.
Also I like how Inaba gives the girls the finger after the goal
>>15068809
While I'm at it, the two artists aside from Ryukishi are Tatsuhiko (who's currently doing the Country Girl manga) and Itou Fumi (who drew the Umineko Tsubasa manga)
>>15068902
>I'm looking forward to seeing how sadistic she acts in the zombie timeline.
I don't think the three stories have the same characters. At least not according to this
http://trt.07th-expansion.net/chara.html
>>15068958
That doesn't mean they won't show up at some point later in the story. Especially if Ryu's meta mentality gets his way.
>>15068902
>with Bern's hair and smirk
You mean her? I don't think she has either of those anymore
>>15068864
When you consider the fetishy concepts of the stakes' outfits and the existence of Gaap, you'd figure that R07 may have even liked how it turned out. (I'm probably wrong though.)
>>15068865
The pacing felt just about the same in the manga to me. I was disappointed that a lot of the goofier scenes were omitted from the anime. And you could really only feel for the characters once a bit of their backstories were revealed anyway. I know what you mean though. ShaKanon's developments were really lackluster. But on the other hand, it felt like the animators had a bias for Rosa/Maria.
Either way I'm forever salty that Erika and D'lanor will never be animated.
>>15068986
This needs to be translated. If I understand it right, she colored her hair blonde for some reason?Also, she's really fucking hot now, holy shit
Is there a working character sorter for Umineko/WTC anymore?
>ASIDE FROM BATTLER, EVERYONE WAS BRIBED
What kind of hack writing is this?
>>15069715
That was only in ep 4, and here's how I see it. I don't think bribed is the right word, I always thought they were threatened to play along with Yasu's game. Since you know, threatened they were going to be killed. It was a pretty obvious conclusion to come to. I mean Jessica and Kyrie were both held at gunpoint while on the phone, they probably had a script to read off of. Kumasawa is always in on it, Ghouda was probably bribed/Threatened to play along when talking to the cousins, Krauss was probably threatened to recount a bullshit story to Jessica too. It makes sense that they'd play along with that little stunt, considering they really were being picked off one by one.
>>15069941
>I always thought they were threatened to play along with Yasu's game
Have you read the manga? Yasu says that it's easy to bribe the adults since they all have money problems, and that most of the accomplices thought they were just playing a game
>>15065452
>>15068400
Thanks. Now that you point it out, I can see that.
Not sure if people have commented about it in previous threads, but does anyone here who knows japanese read Iwaihime? If so, how was it?
>>15069979
I know that they all need the money but it's too ridiculous to think that they'd start some circular firing squad in the dining room for the first twilight. It's even more unbelievable that they'd just stand around and let Yasu kill 6 of them.
>>15070210
As you can see here, Kyrie, Krauss, Nanjo and the others weren't in the dining room when they were killed. They were probably taken to different places, and might not even have known that Yasu and Genji killed the others first
Which witch would you hitch?
This whole premise could have been avoided if Battler went to Rosa after falling out with his parents. From there, he would have several options:
>Return to the island earlier
>Fill Rosa's void (platonically or not)
>Fill Maria's void (in case his canon advances had any seriousness to them)
>All of the above.
I can't be the only one who thought about that.
Actually I forgot whether or not it was specified where Battler lived during that timeframe.
>>15070589
Everything could have been avoided if either Rosa OR Natsuhi hadn't fucked everything up, too.
>>15070594
Absolutely everything could have been avoided if Kinzo hadn't went full OH DESIRE
>>15070589
>Actually I forgot whether or not it was specified where Battler lived during that timeframe.
He lived with his grandparents on Asumu's side
Is there a way to use Battler's original palette swap in CROSS?
It's so much better than the new one he got. Nigga looks sweet as fuck.
>>15070210
Yasu didn't kill anyone in the dining room until near the end. I believe he asked the 6 people to stay in the room and not move, then he came back and killed them later.
Remember that none of the deaths in EP4 were confirmed in red until the end when Battler saw them all.
>>15068809
Are either of them known?
>>15064571
TRI was mostly written by Ryukishi and was supposed to be released in Winter 2014 (Jesus, so long ago) but Ryukishi got sick during the final weeks before RGD got released and he had to push back the product. So he got the solution of letting Romeo and that other guy who wrote Rewrite to write two thirds of the story, with the outlines mostly already done.
Ryukishi is very likely directing this story, plus it gave him more room to write other stories which are being released this year.
>>15070087
The queen herself.
>>15071291
How hard would you bully her?
>>15071313
Lucifer was made for bullying.
>>15071745
True but you didn't answer the question.
>>15071229
>Ryukishi is very likely directing this story
But he isn't, it says on the website that the director is Nakao Boushi
>>15071211
Luck Ganriki worked on Umineko and Higanbana, and both of them worked on Rose Guns Days. Not sure what else they've done
Are Bern and Lambda known to the Touhous? And if yes, which Touhous and what are their feelings about them?
There is an pure Umineko fantasy-versus-truth scenario happening right now quite close to where I live. In Loch Ness in Scotland an underwater robotic drone has been deployed with an aim to utterly eradicate the Devil's Proof argument of whether the Loch Ness Monster "Nessie", a folklore sea creature believed to be descended from the dinosaurs and I believe actually mentioned by name in Umineko at one point, exists or not. It is currently scanning the entire length, breadth and depth of the loch with 'cutting-edge technology'. If nothing is found, then even the Devil's Proof argument itself will be broken and the monster will be declared as non-existent.
Hilariously, in it's search it found a fake Nessie model used in a Sherlock Holmes movie of all things. Subsequently I believe I have a name for this robot. I shall call it Erika.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-13/live-action-higurashi-show-reveals-story-ngt48-theme-song-may-20-debut/.101003
What's the point of this?
>>15071229
>So he got the solution of letting Romeo and that other guy who wrote Rewrite to write two thirds of the story, with the outlines mostly already done.
Do you have a source on that? I though Romeo and Tonokawa worked on it from the start
http://www.shencomics.com/archives/1595960
Here's the full Hotarubi chapter with all 62 pages, in Korean.Apparently there are 2 suns now or something like that
>>15072598
To take horror to new levels.
>>15068809
Now that I think of it, the list is exactly the same as Rose Guns Days', just without Funczion SOUNDS
>>15074051
Rose Guns Days' soundtrack was really good, and they've been working on this fucking game for like 4 years, so I expect some good tracks
Why didn't they use red ink for the red truth in the English localization?
I heard they explain it in the back of volume 4 (turn vol 2), but i don't have that yet so
>>15074227
Printing color is expensive. The japanese volumes don't have color either
Would you?
>>15074241
Especially when all you print is some text in red. At that point you might as well shell out even more money for a full color manga.
>>15075429
Even if it is more expensive than BW, two-tone printing is way cheaper than full color pages.
>There will never be an OMK CROSS 2 with a third Battler, Gaap, Maria andKinzo that turns into a dragon for his meta superas playable characters.
Can anyone explain to me the deal with Featherine memory device broke = Hanyuu?
>>15076402
Her memory device kind of looks like horns, and Hanyuu's left horn has a crack in it
>>15076402
>>15076425
They have some other similarities as well, just read this
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Featherine#Trivia
>>15076425
But how did it work through the story, like Virgillia and Beatrice mentor-student interaction is actually just that old servant girl who likes to give advice.
>>15076475
I don't think it has anything to do with the story, it's just a reference to Higurashi
If anything, her broken memory device is probably supposed to represent Battler losing his memories
>>15074464
Makes sense with tits that size.
>>15076128
But then you wouldn't have 19 characters, and that wouldn't work for symbolic reasons
I would love to see another fighting game on OMK's vein if 07th Expansion ever comes out with another VN of Seacat's scope.
>>15076128
I want to play as Featherine
>>15080139
But can she beat Demonbane?
>>15080139
Don't bring that powerlevel shit here, retard.
>>15080171
Sorry, I just found it funny how it's suggesting "vs goku" over "vs lambadelta".
>>15080176
>the best pokemon
>>15080183
Featherine stops at the last realm of The Creator (allegedly the creator of the entire Umineko omniverse). Meanwhile EG Demonbane beat up its creator (Azathoth, creator of the entire Demonbane Omniverse) into submission by turning it into a giant glowiing stick and Demonbane VB from another universe ended up killing Azathoth and killed its own Omniverse too.
By feats description, Demonbane > Featherine.
Call me back when Featherine can seal its Creator into her pen and use it to write story.
>>15080130
So their relation is a meta and game piece?
I thought they are literally the same person.
>>15080278
>>15080284
EP8の真相解明読本
〇フェザリーヌ
羽入の角に刀傷があったのを覚えていますか？あの一撃で「彼女」の記憶装置が故障し、彼女の存在がバグってしまったのです。
そのため、フェザリーヌとはまったく異なるアイデンティティを持ったキャラになってしまった･･･、という隠し設定があったりなかったり･･･。
Featherine
Do you remember how there were katana cuts on Hanyuu’s horns? With that blow, “her” memory device broke down, and there was a bug in her existence. Because of that, she became a character with a completely different identity from Featherine… or there may or may not have been a hidden scenario like that…
I thought that if Demonbane break Fetherine memory device, she will reverts to Hanyuu.
>>15080284
Azathoth is of the equal level as The Creator in Uminekoverse. Something beyond dimension and concept and everything else (which consist of infinite multiverse) in their respective series.
If Featherine can't even reach the Realm of The Creator (she only touched the last boundary because if she contiunes, she will become nothingness / her existence will be gone) but Demonbane weaker form already entered the state of nothingness and non-existance from Zanma Taisei and said Demonbane can beat the creator of Demonbaneverse.
>>15080176
Well done faggot.
>>15080316
>>15080318
Please stop
>>15080320
well shit
At least the thread is moving again.
>>15080316
Nope.
Excerpt from Lambda vs. Featherine in EP8:
The horseshoe-shaped memory storage device floating around Featherine’s head.
Without that, she couldn’t maintain her existence.
It’d be impossible to destroy it, …but if she could manage to hit it, …she might be able to cause a bug in the memory device. There had been one time in the past when Featherine’s memory device had taken damage, and a changed personality had been brought about.
Is that even done by Lambda in the past? The conversation doesn't seem to indicate it. Somebody else broke Featherine's memory device.
Do note Ryukishi words on >>15080288
> there was a bug in her existence
>she became a character with a completely different identity from Featherine
It implied that their relationship is not simply meta witch->gamepiece
It kinda means she become something completely not Featherine. Not just hurr she sleep.
>>15080320
To be fair, it wasn't really his fault, he just posted a screenshot. It's everyone elses fault for starting a discussion about it
>>15080342
>Demonbane who has the powerlevel of a child can beat the policemen in his story. This policemen has the same powerlevel as the policemen in Umineko.
>Featherine who has the powerlevel of a child can't beat the policemen in her story. THis policemen has the same powerlevel as the policemen in Demonbane.
>Therefore Demonbane can beat Featherine.
Why is it so hard for you?
And Featherine simply can't write anything to happen to Demonbane since Demonban has a powerful immune to any form of supernatural influences and acausal. It means her writing will become a fanfiction in front of Demonbane.
>>15080343
At least it's not as bad as rikafag and juliette together.
>>15080354
At least I could sleep assured that all Rikafag posts would be gone by the time I woke up.
>>15080349
I still should have seen it coming. All the silence meant everyone was bored out of their minds with nothing better to do.
Featherine never gets anything nice posted about her.
>>15080382
Oh no, it's just getting worse
>>15080392
Just report and ignore.
>>15080392
I can also add Erikaposting to the thread.
This thread needs to get back on track. Post your favorite WTC opening/ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rql5YSq1Kzc
>>15080377
>Featherine never gets anything nice posted about her.
Featherine is the biggest shit in WTC.
>>15080606
Even Bern sometimes gets praised or intrigues people.
When's the last time someone said anything nice about Featherine? And I don't mean bragging about her insane powers.
>>15080377
Featherine is total shit, that's why. And I don't mean shit in a good way like Erika or Bern, she's just shit in a "Would improve the story by not existing at all" kind of way.
If she were cute or anything that could be considered remotely fappable I'd forgive it, but she's not.
>>15080708
>tumblr
>>15080712
Yeah, so what?
>>15080708
Honestly, the parts with Ikuko were really boring. I remember wanting to hold Ctrl to skip through it.
I'd say something nice if I could remember more about her. I'm rereading the whole thing and I'm on Episode 3 still.
>>15080645
>When's the last time someone said anything nice about Featherine?
She's kind of pretty, I guess. That's a good thing, right?
>>15080712
tumblr is accepted in seacats because they have some good content for us sometimes
>>15080739
Dude at least change the filename
>>15080746
Dude at least try not to act like a fucking autist
>>15080747
Where do you think we are autist?
>>15080747
lol
You need to read the filename everytime or something?
>>15080764
fuck off rikafag
>>15080764
>>15080739 isn't even me, man. What the hell are you on about?
Is it me or is the mascot for TRianThology clothes in her original design is more badass.
Is it just me or does death (from stupefaction) make a better song to play when finding murders than rahugoldenslaughterer?
>>15082015
>hands
Oh, good. So that's how it works.
Is she actually flat? I thought Ryukishi drew her. Not that I'm complaining.
beato
>>15082015
That's not from Trianthology. It's from some Rozen Maiden contest, where the winners would get their designs featured in the actual manga or something
>>15082184
Oh, but Ryukishi drew her, right? If so, we at least know he just added some changes to the offit for her in Trianthology.
>>15082230
>Oh, but Ryukishi drew her, right?
Yeah, he drew it. I just wanted to point out that it isn't actually from Trianthology, since I've seen people ontumblrpass it off as a new character from the game before
>>15080431
The one bad thing about Hou's OP is that it outright spoils the story for people who haven't played it yet. That irks me.
I love the percussion in the 2nd half of Higanbana's OP. It feels like rolling waves.
>>15082015
Those clothes look pretty good desu
We're not going to hear anything about MangaGamer's 'updated' Umineko until next year, won't we?
>>15080411
I get that they have very limited resources but being an animationfag, I can't help but cringe at all the Aftereffects shit. The song is catchy though. And I love the part with the island in the beginning
Taishou-A best ED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtaWeG95oz4
>>15082739
Ooh! I really like the Rei opening and your description of it!
>>15082739
>the message of Higurashi is to reach out for support from your friends and not suffer in quiet
>get inspired playing it
>still isolate self as life gets worse
It's such a good message and so beautifully taught, but I just can't out that advice into practice. I'm sorry, Ryukishi!
>>15083455
>>15083463
>Replying to that shitposter who ruined the previous thread
>>15083471
I've had fun in the past threads and haven't noticed a problem. Regardless if someone did something you didn't like, they can still make good posts or be engaged in conversation. Let's all get along, shall we?
Natsuhi could have prevented all of this at several times in the story.
Also, did Kinzo really respect her or was that just her Yasu-level delusions?
>>15083512
Kinzo never respected her (I think Bern says this in Red) and yes she could have probably prevented everything, especially if she hadn't chucked the baby off the cliff.
>>15080208
It's NOTHING.
>>15083522
Which will lead Lion to be appointed as the next head and Kyrie to play her FPS game.
Nippon is obviously the one at fault here for joining the Axis.
>>15083471
But that's not Juju, and she promised to leave us alone for now.
Would a Let's Play of Higurashi or Umineko be a bad idea? Like doing different voices for the characters and occasionally commenting.
What did she mean by this?
>>15080165
featherine is not even real
I hate that fucking powerlevel chart that places her next to LoN, you know, an actual multiversal creator deity, so fucking much.
>>15084050
>an actual multiversal creator deity, so fucking much.
I hate to break it to you, but he's not real either.
>>15084070
>Anime
>Real
Pick one.
>>15083452
Personal favorite of mine as well. Soft and emotional. Lovely song.
>>15084089
I just wanted to say that you're cool people and not goats. You've all read Umineko and appreciated it anons. You are cool people. Keep it up. You're great.
Speaking of goats, which ending did you all choose first?
Magic or Trick?
>>15085394
I am drunk and I literally can't read this font. Literally. My mind and my eyes seem to decide to do everything but reading this font. I've tried for 10 minutes straight but I can't read it.
Please change the fond. I'm sure it is a fun a comic about something or another. But please, think of all the drunk men out there. They don't want tot suffer like I do.
>>15085453
I chose Trick first, but only because it was obvious that Magic would be the good ending, so I saved it for last
>>15085461
Lay off the absinthe, Kinzo.
>>15085394
OC DONUT STEEL!!
>>15085394
They could probably go into the Kakera where Evangelion is happening or whatever. Watching evangelion seems quaint when you can meet Gendo in person.
Can the roleplaying faggots please go back to /a/? This board is autistic, but at least we have standards.
>>15085716
IGNORE AND REPORT
>>15085453
Magic because I didn't want to ruin the mood.
>>15082795
There was some leaked screenshots from mangagamer's image directory in the vntls a couple months back showing that they had inserted the new art
>>15085394
10/10
I gave this a read. Some of the memes are dated, but I still enjoyed it enough. Anyone else checked it out?
>>15086738
I think or af least hope most here have checked it out.
It was pretty amusing for what it was.
A deconstruction of the dnd genre if you will. Ha!
>>15082795
Why would they be releasing Umineko when Higurashi isn't finished yet?
>>15083841
The one thing I'd say about LPs of VNs: Don't narrate the text. The voice acting that youtubers do is usually obnoxious. Just let the viewers read the text, and narrate your own thoughts on top of it (Warning: You will actually have to have interesting thoughts to make that work).
>>15087117
Why not? Higurashi won't be finished for years anyway
>>15086738
I read it back when 3.0 was out. I remember it was fun to read and the style felt pretty faithful to the original. It's been ages since I read it so maybe I'll re-read it after I finish re-reading the VNs.
>>15083841
There's actually one guy who's been doing a Let's Play of Umineko for a while now, currently near the end of Episode 5.
>>15087555
Wow, he started it in October 2014 and he's still going. That's kind of impressive
Why didn't George ever cop a feel? Imagine all of the trouble that could have been avoided.
>>15087572
Yeah, It's been going faster now that he's started doing livestreams to cover 2-3 hours at once, but even then it'll probably be another year or so until he finishes.
Eva > Rosa
Like her witch side, she has a sadistic streak. And while Rosa is stern, angry and cold while beating her kid, Eva really feels it.
In the beginning of act 4, is Ange imagining spending time with Maria because she is reading the diary?
So I just finished this, and it was overall pretty good but it had a lot of dull moments due to, in my opinion, consistent bad choices in plot devices that people ignore because of an overestimation of Ryukishi's abilities as a writer.
I have no interest in discussing or debating any of these plot devices, but does anyone else feel the same?
>>15087769
I mean, yeah. I kind of take Ryukishi's writing with a grain of salt because it's moreso his subject matter that he writes about that's brilliant. Not necessarily his technique, or how he structures the plot. The overall story/concept makes up for a few boring parts and asspulls.
So does Beatrice have a dick?
Does that make Battler gay?
>>15087954
I can't believe it took you so long to figure it out.
Do you think Yasu ever got wasted off Kinzo's absinthe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUCV9R_Wp0k
>>15083509
The trick ending is the true ending.
I've never noticed the chanting before. Pretty spooky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wA5zcRxzo
>>15063763
Is Battler just resting his head on the table or is he checking out Anges Anges there?
>>15070272
I just can't see Yasu gunning down Jessica, George and Maria face to face in cold blood. Those three never did anything evil to her.
>>15083975
Still a better parent than Kinzo, thats for sure.
>>15089272
He's resting his head on the table, you pervert.
>>15086738
It was quite hillarious.
>Erika powergaming
>Jessica pickpocketing Satan
>Kero
>all that 4th wall breaking
>Maria and Jessica trolling Erikain the bossfight
>>15089291
Yasu is just kinda a total bitch.
>>15088071
Hm.
Her reaction when she wakes up, sees the pyjamas and realizes that this MIGHT be Kanons work would be priceless.
>>15089291
She's just being a selfish cunt
>>15089513
The ones with Erika are the best
>>15089291
Well Yasu never actually got a chance to put their plan into action, so we don't know if they would have been able to go through with it.
>>15089513
Would you have Erika sleep with you and your sister?
>>15090882
Sure, it sounds pretty great actually
>>15090882
As long as she doesn't talk too much.
>>15091882
And what would you want her to be doing? What if she's a real big snorer?
>>15091935
>And what would you want her to be doing?
She should be sleeping so I can touch her without a care in the world.
>>15093310
Wouldn't put it past him.
>>15093355
But that's what I'd be doing to her. Wouldn't we just be staring at each other awkwardly?
>>15093418
>making Erika watch you have slow sex with your sleeping imouto
You monster.
>>15093418
Why slow? If you want to make it exciting you gotta go all the way.
>>15093418
How about having rough sex with both of them?
>>15093503
Erika doesn't want dick, unless you happen to be a Game Master.
>>15093577
So does that make Erika everybody's actual metafictional waifu?
>>15093577
With 64 unique posters counted so far in this thread alone, that's a lot of dick.
Where would one even start?
>>15094881
Her wanting everybody's dick doesn't make her anyone's waifu.
>>15094881
Absolutely disgusting! Truly horrifying! Immensely intolerable and vomit inducing!
>>15094881
No, it just means she's a slut
>>15094912
She'd start with OP, then the rest can jump in at their leisure.
>>15094963
Or she jumps onto others. Both work.
>>15094963
Someone really needs to make more hentai of Erika. There isn't nearly enough
>>15095017
There isn't enough porn of anyone
>tomboy
>lolis
>cowtits
>milfs
>yanderes
>incest
>traps
>fat old men
>harem of stakes
>bunny girls
>cat shota
>femdom Beatrice
>femdom Erika
>goats
>vore
99% of all fetishes are canon and the rest could be explainded with "lol magic"
You could make whatever kind of porn you wanted withUmineko and it could still be plausible
>>15095039
>femdom Erika
Erika is meant for dominating roughly and you know it
>>15095017
And somehow Erika still has more good porn than Jessica, Lambda and especially Dlanor.
It's pretty distressing.
>>15095015
Twilight of the Golden Witch was released over 5 years ago. Almost everything that could be discussed has already been discussed by this point.
>>15095069
Dlanor has porn? What about Cornelia and Gertrude?
>>15095079
Oh, that.That one night was still fun.
>>15095090
>Dlanor has porn?
Sure. Not terribly much, but she's better off than Cornelia and Gertrude. Think I saw them in like two or three images total.http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23865826
>>15095140
Butt.
Remember to ignore and report
Reminder that Battler, Beatrice, Kinzo, Krauss, Natsuhi, Jessica, Eva, George, Kyrie, Rosa, Maria, Genji, Gohda, Kumasawa, the Italians, the Japanese, and/or Agatha Christie could have prevented the tragedy directly, indirectly, purposefully, accidentally and/or incidentally.
>>15095174
And Yasu could have prevented the tragedy directly by just not being such an little bitch.
>>15095174
I blame Ange.
>>15095196
Loli Ange, duh.
>>15095321
You can't kill which has no life.
>>15095355
Sleep and rest easy sea cat.
>>15094914
Can Dlanor be my waifu? We can talk about Knox.
>>15095373
You have good taste, so I'll allow it.
Could Erika stop a speeding bullet using chopsticks?
>>15095487
Why not? She's Mary Sue enough to pull it off.
>>15095529
She manages to solve the epitaph, has a name that's spelled a special way (ヱリカ with ヱ being a defunct character), manages to become a Witch of Truth, and Bernkastel chose her to "insert herself" into the story.
It's like she's deliberately a parody of Mary Sues.And I love it.
>>15095620
>So if I shot her, she would just die.
No, she wouldn't.she's already dead you monster please stop
>>15095620
>So if I shot her, she would just die.
>Shooting a corpseFor real though, shooting her isn't that easy
>>15095702
But Erika died for our sins
Can the Rosatrice theory explain this?
I wanna fap
beato
cow tits
Just finished reading it all, what a fucking ride that was. I'm now reading each chapter's truth on the wiki, but I still don't really understand the "why dunnit". What exactly are Yasu's motives for commiting the murders if people don't solve the epitah on the first night? I know Yasu's fucked and Battler coming back when she's about to marry George may trigger her, but why kill everybody?
>>15096677
Pretty much everything is explained in Episode 7 and 8 of the manga, so you could just read that if you're still confused about something
>>15096214
It's magic, anon.
>>15095039
Seacats are for reading, not porning.
Bern is kinda a jerk.
>>15097234
Nah, she's funny.
>>15097245
Funny in the head.
>>15097286
She's just a cat, anon. Are there such things as evil animals? I don't think so.
>>15097294
House cats especially kill for pleasure all the time.
>>15097302
>for pleasure
Are you sure? Cats are born with a hunting and chasing instinct. It's just a game for them. There is no evil in them, just a playful spirit.
We're quite alike.
>>15097322
>Hunting and murdering other living things is just a game to them
>Somehow not evil
>>15097353
"Life" is just a mode of existence, not a state of value. It is what a thing that lives does, can do, and might do that makes it worth preserving. Cats understand the true nature of reality. Cats understand the true nature of mice.
Fuck mice.
>>15097353
Don't give me that, anon. We kill, slaughter and cook thousands of animals per day. We're eating the whole world. A little mouse feels tiny compared to that.
>>15097353
You know, I'm not really serious. I love animals. I just don't like to think too much about it because the more I think, the more I realize how little is everything (even life), and then everything feels empty.
We just need to simply have fun and stop overthinking everything. Life is simple and comfy. Happy feelings~
>>15095718
Honestly, I don't think it can.
The solution is still the same. Someone pretended to be dead and killed Nanjo. The problem this red poses is that no one else but Yasu could have done it because it can only be solved with the alternate name to bypass the red.
Rosatrice maintains that the story doesn't rely on this ploy, and that Ryukishi is smarter than that so it must provide an alternate answer. And honestly, I don't see an answer.
I tried to think of some possible way but I can only think of some stupidity like
>George died next to Nanjo from bloodloss and as he fell, the gun hit the floor and randomly shot and hit Nanjo in the head
But that's stupid for many reasons.
This red simply rejects anyone else except Yasu.
>>15097294
Cats are very sadistic and selfish animals, with a sense of entitlement and mystery. It's the reason they were revered in some parts of the world as mystical in ancient times.
>>15097353
>animal acts similar to us
>Somehow evil
Isn't that interesting?
>>15095718
Doesn't the Rosatrice theory deny everything in the manga
>>15097702
To a certain degree, yes. But you cannot say for certain that everything shown in the manga concerning the truth of what Yasu felt isn't complete bullshit.
You have to trust the white text to understand the story but the story also makes it a point that you shouldn't completely believe everything as well. Rosatrice theory just says that it's bullshit meant as a red herring because it's shows everyone as complete idiots, and only idiots would believe that everyone acted retarded the entire story.
To the Rosatrice theory, accepting Shkannon is like accepting the witch and stop thinking. I also don't entirely understand why people dismiss the Rosatrice theory since it basically goes ''yeah, Shkanon has some flaws, but it was all intended'' without saying that the theory is shit, just a red herring. And everyone goes apeshit over it.
>>15097702
Also, to expand, the Rosatrice theory simply denies the end portion of the manga showing the struggles concerning Yasu.
tfw no Erika erper for a bunch of us Anons to rail
>>15098012I'm a Bern erper.
