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>not riichiing every hand, even yakumen
http://pastebin.com/mu7z1WQk
tenhou.net/0/?L7447 - 1:0
>1:0
Posting it early for all the shitters that will ask about why didn't win their shitty open hand.
Is 'Goumoupai' considered as a legit move?
>>14498260
There should be an extra arrow with "Doras don't matter".
>>14498267
I don't think thats a common enough mistake
>>14498270
I think the other anon is right. It might be a beginner's mistake to count dora as a yaku that matters.It should be placed after that big yes.
Is it a dora?
Y: ur a faget
N: furiten
or something like that
>>14498277
Nah, just
>YES! -> Doras don't matter -> NO or UR A FAGET
The chart's schtick is just cutting you off because you're wrong (e.g. FURITEN). Keep it simple.
>>14498281
Well, whatever, as long as it's emphasized that doras don't count.
>>14498285
How is this?
>>14498319
Looks good mate. No problems with the content but please fix the arrows it triggers me.
>2:0
>>14497798
should we set you an IRC for waiting and post games ?
>>14498356
I did find already found 2 on actarus
#[email protected]
#[email protected]
I hate mahjong.
Every time I feel like I can stay out of last place, some asshole on the last round gets one off me and then ends the game after a twenty-hand tsumo roll.
Always last place.
>>14498403
git good
>>14498403
Well I just won from being 18700 down in the South 4 round after 4 consecutive wins. Feels good when you're on the other side of it.
>>14498407
I HATE YOU PEKOJIMA
>>14498409
Thanks for the points mate. It wasn't much.
>>14498403
I started my last game with a double riichi as dealer and proceeded to lose every other hand in the game.
Also does anyone have that "I hate Mahjong" image with the crying girl from Saki and the 4chan post?
>>14498414
implying it's not goverment fault
>not setting up tanki hell waits on winds
>>14498431
I do this. If it's in the dead wall you're fucked but other than that it almost certainly will come out.
>>14498267
no, it falls under "WHATS A YAKU" already
>>14498431
What if it's in the dead wall genius?
https://a.uguu.se/zribpx_mahjong.7z
I shat out a .7z for people wanting to get into mahjong. Comes with instructions and Saikyo no Mahjong 3D.
>>14498436
Best shit is when you open two sets hinting at tanyao while having a bunch of doras in your hand
Then some sorry guy deals in the final wind
>>14498470flow
I get the fourth tile of one of my sets of 3
call kan
win off the draw :^)
>>14498403
It appears to me that you are in dire need of gitting gud.
If you post replays I will see what could be improved.
>3:0
>someone else suddenly leaves
>back to 2:0
>>14498542
That was just my internet going out
>>14498542
Use this opportunity to play some 0000 and grind up stats you can wank to.
>>14498526
Bandou pls go. You can't even have a pinfu with a wind pair.
RINSHAN
>>14498593
You can if it's not seat or table
FUCK NO I CALLED RON ON THE WRONG TILE
>>14498631
Aren't you stuck calling it anyway? If you pass on a ron, you're stuck waiting for a tsumo right?
>>14498636
Yeah but I could've drawn it. Could've had suuankou. Fuuuuck.
Wow, thanks for cancer. This game was completely bullshit.
>>14498636
It wasn't riichi, he would be only in temporary furiten.
>>14498639
A guaranteed ron is worth more than "Maybe I can tsumo"
>>14498680
But it's better to wait for yakuman (fucking su ankou tanki) than go with just haneman. Especially in situation when this mistake cost him win in this game.
>>14498319
Ugly arrows, would not paste
>>14498477
ok
hope it's not a virus
>>14498680
The young and stupid always rush forwards. They can rush and ignore their disadvantages, they believe in themselves, that they can do it.
But they can't let go of their advantages. They will cling to them as a drowning man to straws, desperate to keep afloat no matter what. Only true men know the difference between advantages, and winning
>>14498695
>But it's better to wait for yakuman (fucking su ankou tanki) than go with just haneman.
Very, very rarely.
Only in the last round when the difference would also mean a placement difference would I even beginn to think about passing a henaman.
>>14498731
It was S3 and direct hit in right player/tsumo would end game on his favor, because one of the player would end without points.
Haneman would be enough if he strike in right player/draw tsumo, so without doubt he fucked up this hand.
Also it was early stage in the game (around seventh discard) and he has a lot of time to wait or change the wait.
>>14498737
Replay link?
Today is bad day for mahjong.
>>14498776
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015121723gm-0009-7447-e70bbcdd&tw=3
Find S3-2 because I'm retard and I don't know how to do direct link.
>>14498821
Forgot about screen.
>>14498826
>he fell for the kokushi musou meme
>>14498821
Nah, calling ron was correct. East wind already had two open melds including a haku triplet. The risk of not winning at all, or worse, dealing into east winds hand was far too high.
>>14498826
My starting hand was so shit, that I don't have so many options. Sure, I'm suprised that I even get tenpai, but I sure deserve it after all bullshit in this game.
Well, if upperdan lobby is the place when everyone only can pull shit hands and lucky tsumo I'm no sure that I want to stay here.
>>14498844
Points difference. Haneman give him nothing at this point.
>>14498821
> I'm retard and I don't know how to do direct link.
Add &ts=X where X is the ordinal number of hand, starting from 0 iirc. I dunno what the mnemonic for ts may be. Time-Step?
>>14498877
It wasn't even the last round. The points won now might well have him won the game in the last round.
>>14498963
Mystery solved. Thanks a lot anon!
>>14498974
If you can end the game right here and right now, you should do it, because it would end like in this game. Sure, in orasu he would need only 3/40 to win game, but you cannot be sure that hand will be good and fast enough.
What's more his shimocha don't have idea what he want to accomplish, so wait a little longer would bring only good things.
>>14498986
Missquote. I want to repeat to this >>14498972
>>14498986
Still, he only had 3 outs for yakuman, which were 5s, which rarely come out and the round was already pretty far, plus the dealer had two open melds. Not calling would be highly risky.
He should have just called riichi there. With riichi he had a good chance for getting at least baiman just by getting either ura-dora, ippatsu or menzen tsumo with both the 4s or the 5s.
>>14499003
As I said before, he could easily change her wait to another tanki. About riichi, I'm no sure - I have feeling that if he wait a little longer, someone else would just discard that 5s - shimocha goes to honitsu and shimocha already discarded 4s and 6s.
Also I noticed that it was last 4s - well, if he wanted to go riichi, he should do it sooner.
>>14499032
>As I said before, he could easily change her wait to another tanki.
Yes, but then he would lose the kanchan wait. Plus the red 5 would be a pretty risky discard. So far no 5s was out and it wasn't suji against the dealer with his two melds.
>shimocha goes to honitsu and shimocha already discarded 4s and 6s.
But he had only discarded the 4s? Also it was impossible to tell that he was going for honitsu, he had discards from every suit.
And yes, the riichi should have been called right when he got into tenpai. The wait wasn't bad at all with the combined tanki + kanchan.
baum pls
You all have shitty internet and that's why it looks like I'M the slow one
Would you go for chinitsu?
>>14498319
I think this one is more accurate.
>>14499580
If 7447 - yes. I play there to get big hands and impress poor /jp/sies.
Otherwise - no:
* first place, no need to win big
* current hand is one shan ten, but for chinitsu it needs 3 tiles
* this hand already most likely will be a mangan. And with some luck it can become haneman even without ura doras.
* south player has pon of dragons so he can win fast
>>14499580
Definitely not. You are already in isshanten, discarding a sou tile would slow down the hand immensly.
>>14499608
>but for chinitsu it needs 3 tiles
4 in fact. The hand would lose 2 shanten with a sou discard. This is without a doubt not a good idea.
>>14499608
> If 7447 - yes.
That’s it.
>1:0
Fight me Gogo.
Twice during that game, I called while having no yaku in my hand.
>>14500045
No I'm mad
>>14500057
No you're just scared.
I'm waiting for my mahjong set and mat, probably going to be here in January.
I can't wait to play with people and actually learn how to play mahjong for real.
Online mahjong is on fucking speed, you have no time to actually form thoughts past really vague assumptions, and even by playing a thousand games you will learn nothing, because you can't read discards and make conclusions in the split second that passes between your discard and the other three.
The only thing I'm getting better at is tile efficiency, but my level of defensive reading is probably the same as when I started playing. All the strategies I've read about are not something I can apply with a scarce 3 seconds at my disposal.
Why is Nodoka ashamed of being cute?
>>14500107
I hope you're getting an automatic table too
>>14500107
I partly agree. I DID get better by playing more games on tenhou, but that is to a large degree thanks to me getting faster, rather than learning new strategies. If you had like double the amount of time per turn I could have probably played as well as I do now after ~400 games right from the start and could have invested the effort into learning new strategies instead of just speed. There really should be a slow game option on tenhou, if nothing else it would definitely be good for learning.
>>14500107
Are you nuts, tenhou is so damn slow! I keep thinking COME ON DISCARD ALREADY YOU FUCKING SNAIL
>>14497798
that feeling when a player gets a big lead in the early game and you get really close to cathing up but game ends
this feeling of defeat is terrible
>>14500107
Tenhou's timer is very generous, to the point that playing with newbies in 7447 can sometimes be tedious when they're slow. What exactly is it that takes you so long when making decisions? Counting up your ukeire, evaluating how safe a tile is, or what? You don't need to do these things each and every time, because with experience you'll already know what the best choice is.
>>14500183
Not him but the situation that really take time are those when you play a mixed offensive/defensive style. At worst you have to consider kabe, suji plus information from open melds against various opponents, as well as the uke-ire of your own hand at the same time. How the fuck am I supposed to do that in ~ 5 seconds.
>>14500199
It really does become much easier when you have more experience. Even then, you have 5+10 seconds, plus the time your opponents take.
>>14500218
I always rush my moves so my opponents have less time to think.
>>14500218
>Even then, you have 5+10 seconds, plus the time your opponents take
The situation can change very quickly though, by a player declaring riichi or an open meld for example. It certainly gets better, but I'd still prefer it if you had more time so the game would actually be more about who has the best strategy. Look at online poker sites for example. Poker is far simpler than mahjong in terms of the information you have to consider, yet most poker sites will give you around 20s for your turn.
This has to be the end the bad luck streak I'm on. Calling double riichi only to deal into Daisengan, with not a single person even so much as picking up my winning tiles. I can't get worse, right?
>>14500107
>I can't wait to play with people and actually learn how to play mahjong for real.
Do you actually know people who know how to play and/or are willing to play?
I have like three different sets (two unopened) and I'm in PA and can't find anyone. Even when I offer to learn Cantonese style, people still refuse because they all hate mahjong.Can't even find a bridge club that actually meets more than once a year.
>>14500391
Holy fuck
Good game, I need to practice more.
>>14500177
Calm down, Sonic.
Which 2hus would you play mahjong with?
>>14500391
>losing double riichi to a yakuman
That's just some shit luck on your ass.
>>14498731
This is one of those rare times it's better to pass on a haneman to end the game on top with yakuman. He finished 2nd, because of that failure.
Rooting for gogo!
>>14500658
Gogo, please.
>>14500603
>closed honitsu toitoi round wind triple dora
>waiting on a 4-pin nobody discarded so far
Marisa ain't gettin' that baiman. Especially if Remilia is in the mix.
Fucking RNG horseshit.
>>14500664
It's tatsumaki, a 2-3-4-5-6 wait.
>>14500664
More like suuankou nigga. She can ron it and still get the yakuman, she'll have more chances.
Won again in 7447 by a South4 comeback. Gotta feel bad for my opponents.
>>14500664
I just noticed that I was wrong and that Remilia has a 4-pin discard.
>>14500704
Oh shit, didn't realise.
>>14500706
Oh, I forget that suuankou is a yakuman sometimes.
>>14500715
It was the first yakuman I got, and I didn't even know it was a yakuman back then.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=60935&showfiles=1 For anyone looking for Shin Janki, here's a link.
>>14500658
I won, for you
>>14500848
Rematch let's go.
>>14500848
so much bullshit going on
KyuuAA I know you're here
>dealt the chun instead of the 7 man thinking someone might've been holding onto a pair or triplet
literally killing myself brb
Why is fu not used past 4 han? Is it just to make scoring simpler, or are there other reasons? And why don't terminal sequences give extra fu(lets assume that pinfu would be replaced with a simpler yaku that still works)?
1:8
oh bby
Eat THAT waza
>>14500917
You're next faggot.
>>14500107
Where do you live? I'll play you
>tfw we're all friends through the magic of mahjong
We're all gonna make it brah
This is some next-level bullshit.
GOGOOOOOOOOOO
>no gyakuten
>>14500848
I cheered you on and then you rekt me.
Good game.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015100911gm-0009-0000-bba70e74&tw=0&ts=1
>shimocha
>DORA 4 FROM KAN
>GET RON'd BY SHIT HAND
HAHAHAHAH EVERYONE LAUGH AT WAZA
>>14501146
Get fucked, I won anyway.
>>14501166
I gotta admit.
I was so hyped. The flow was completely in your control that round.
I wanted you to win but that fag on my left kept calling tiles for cheap hands.
>>14501171
I was hyped too. Didn't think I would get 4 dora from that one kan. I had a feeling I was going to deal into stupid fucking hamster face eventually though, considering I only had 3 winning tiles.
Three player mahjong is weird.
>>14501199
>disgusting 3p
>>14501231
What's wrong with 3p?
>>14501240
it will get you used to a totally different game, for once
How the fuck do I into tenhou?
Everything is in fucking japanese
>>14502172
Learn Japanese idiot
>>14500645
See >>14499049
>>14500894
Why is fu not used past 4 han? Is it just to make scoring simpler, or are there other reasons?
If you would continue the normal scoring the hands would get huge very fast. And with huge I'm talking about millions and billions or even more points here. This would completely fuck up the balance of the game since small hands, riichi payments or honba would basically become pointless.
>And why don't terminal sequences give extra fu(lets assume that pinfu would be replaced with a simpler yaku that still works)?
I don't really follow, what do you mean by this?
>>14499049
It was a perfectly good suuankou tanki, that was destined to hit.
>>14502421
>that was destined to hit.
Opinion discarded.
>>14497798
3.0
>>14497798
come on waza
What's this whole furiten FURITEN F U R I T E N thing mean?
Fuvk you gogo
>>14502582
The ura dora are calling to me
Get in here Gogo.
>>14497798
>people don't believing in the flow
There's no stopping Kuyashii now.
just got my ass kicked... i think.
How many of you have actually bothered learning how to count Fu? It
>>14502792
I have cause I have a physical mahjong set and it is surprisingly easy. The only difficult part in the beginning is remember how many fu each pon/kan is worth. I even made a program really quick for my friends to use to count han/fu.
I fucking hate ledgrill
Losing first place like that is so awful.
>>14502792
I did. With a chart its really easy
>tfw you get a fucking ridiculous comeback hand
>delayed riichi for 1 turn on a whim and got ippatsu to bring you up to sanbaiman
>>14502792
I just go for pinfu all day.
>>14503086
Nice one, but would you check this?
>>14502567
this is for you>>14498260
1:0 C'MON LET'S GO
![[Coalgirls]_Baccano!_16_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3068AE4A]_0214.png](https://i.imgur.com/sZSMdKB.png "[Coalgirls] Baccano! 16 (1280x720 Blu-ray FLAC) [3068AE4A] 0214")
>>14500391
If only I was given hands like these last ones in every game.
I won.
One of the most frustrating things is to get a ahead of the game right on the first hand, and the lose internet connection on the following round.
>>14500403
>>14500943
I have 5 people I taught how to play, two of which are my flatmates, so we could play 3-players any time.
I'm in the north of Italy, so I doubt any of you could physically play me.
>>14503627
cool, I'm italian too.
I have tought 4 people so far
what is your tenhou name? mine is bk201
>>14503720
Oppairon or 0ppairon
>>14502792
If you play with real tiles, you have to, unless someone else is capable of doing it.
>>14502469
Yakuman virgin detected.
>>14503757
Wrong, though. I had one Suu Ankou.
>>14502407
Sequences with terminals in them are naturally harder to form, so wouldn't it make sense for them to give fu?
>>14503772
It's slight, but not significant enough on its own. Besides, penchan gives fu anyways.
>>14503772
They're still a lot easier than even open triplets of middle tiles which already give 2 fu, though.
I thought that I’ll be ronned or end up furiten, but no, the 7447 doesn’t let me down.
>>14497798
shogi is shit and you fucking faggots are shit too
>mfw, losing points in the East round only to dominate the South round for the win
>>14504033
she still couldn't stop the mosters
>>14503198
For people who insist that they are not on furiten and they have yaku, like when they mistakenly count dora.
Well, apparently, there's a limited number of times where you get disconnected and reconnect in a Tenhou game. Sadface.
>>14504026
shogi, xiangqi, and go are amazing
>>14504026
Fuck off, chessfaggot
>>14504217
Chess is fun too, bubba.
Unfortunately, while I play chess a lot, I don't really play xiangqi or shogi enough to develop strategy.
>>14497798
3 without rank
this will be a pon palace
>>14504230
toi toi or death
Your sacrifice to remove the tyrant of the East was well appreciated, Baum.
Through effort, I was able to end the war with pace and with the least amount of casualties.
Alas, only taking second place, my heart is burdened with regret.
>>14504227
To be fair. Being a riichi player, I shit on other mahjongs like 'murrican style.
>>14504271
You're just lucky that I stupidly pon'd that south wind. I had to switch my hand to chanta because of it.
>>14497798
3.4
I will behead Gogo.
>>14504443
Not if I behead myself first!
>>14504443
>Muslims playing mahjong
>>14504464
Or mexicans
>>14504464
Ackbaring before, during and after each draw/call.
>>14497798
0.16
pretty good
>>14504443
get in the line
What's with all those people today?
>>14504533
But I thought there were 7 chapters translated so far, and that scene isn't in there
>>14504443
Do not behead my idol.
From last to second in an instant. Too bad it was too late to catch up.
>>14504540
>It's from chapter 78
>>14504568
how
That's right Gogo.
Last place, where you belong.
>>14504591
It's the lewdgrill curse, I tell you
>>14504581
Kindai Mahjong is published in English in taiwan, a month behind the Japanese release. People don't seem to scan them however.
I need to learn to stop thinking and just discard the fucking honor tiles.
Also, I swear every time I change a pair wait, I draw the tile I just discarded on my next turn.
HA, no daisangen eh?
>>14504637
>just discard the fucking honor tiles.
Why? They're really useful and people always pon them
Nice dora 4 Gogo
>>14504654
daisangen is for fags
>>14504659
Discard them early in the game instead of keeping them and opting to discard actually good tiles. If someone pon'd them, just defend against them when necessary.
>>14504659
If somebody is waiting to pon them, it means you have a lower chance of getting multiples and, if you're gonna discard them, it's best to do it early on when they'll be pon'd instead of ron'd.
>>14504637
You're only supposed to keep them if you have a pretty good assumption that your opponent is waiting on that tile based on his seat and his discards. Keeping it till midgame then throwing it by then is pretty useless. It's a different case when you draw it midgame and it's a live tile. In that case that would be dangerous and it is just right to keep it .
>>14504591
Did you say something?
GOGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>14504689
Let's go Gogo I'll put you in your place.
I won't let you finish even one hand, Waza.
For some reason tenhou keeps bugging out and it makes me discard my rightmost tile sometimes regardless of what I click. How the hell do I keep this from happening so I can stop throwing away my god damn yakuhai?
>>14504713
Don't use Firefox.
>>14504721
I'm using botnet though
>>14504713
If it's from your hand I don't know but if it's your draw, a double click does that.
>>14504689
gogo will place either first or last
Cheering for Waza!
3 riichis at once? This shit is rigged.
>>14504738
it's probably gogo
In Akagi, was that thing he did where he hid a tile in the closed kan considered cheating? Like, doing that doesn't actually alter the positions of any tiles or give him any information, it just leaks false info.
>>14504746
I don't know, but it was cool as hell.
>>14504698
Liar.
>>14504738
I'm not pathetic enough to samefag myself like Gogo.
/a/ is winning
Shame on you
>>14504761
wait for the upset at south 3
B-Baka Baka, I let you win that one you better get that through your head Waza I'm way better than you!
>>14504766
Woah thanks for spoilering me asshole
By the way snape kills han solo
what do you guys eat while on a mahjong binge?
>>14504782
Boogers.
>>14504782
>eating
>>14504782
I lick my onahole
>>14504782
Tacos.
>>14504782
Crème brûlée
>game has user juicebox at the table
>third day in the row I've seen this buster
he's my fated nemesis.
also do you all prefer closed hands or open hands? i like closed hands, myself.
>no last round comeback
>>14504823
I like closed hands but I open mine up frequently for the sake of winning.
>>14504782
I get some Hersey chocolate bars and break them all into the pieces, then I pretend they're tiles and arrange them on my desk like a game of mahjong. If I win by tsumo I eat my hand.
>mfw, needing to pee during mahjong
>>14504935
get a laptop. I play while shitting all the time
>100 points away from second place
>>14504953
Honestly I just wanted the game to end ever since that one shitter left. Makes the game slower when only 3 people are playing.
>>14504935
Always happens to me. I wait till someone wins before I get North so I get the most time to go away. I always still end up losing the extra time and discarding a tile but it's fine and it's not something that I can't make up.
>>14504965
>>14504935
>not just pissing in a cup/bottle
>>14504953
I don't want to drink it thinking it's my gatorade again.
>>14504935
Why not just go before you join?
>>14504981
>quoting the wrong person
Also, that sounds absolutely disgusting
>>14504981
>again
Please don't queue if you're just going to leave.
>>14504782
Pussy
>>14504823
I don't think it's really something one prefers. Whether to open your hand or not just depends on the particulars of the moment.
>>14505068
If you're talking about me, then sorry. My connection constantly fails and it takes me about 10 refreshes to actually load the lobby, so I sometimes just can't be bothered rejoining when I have already lost a few rounds
Spectating is fun.
Kans for days
>>14504976
>not wearing a diaper like a cute little girls are meant to
>>14505103
Yes, it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTAv_4wTRAs
>>14505103
Hitoshi?
>>14505103
I especially enjoy spectating dan games in the ranked lobby. It's always fun to see experienced players going at it.
>>14505176
10 dan in progress.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kusotsuno/?%BF%B7%BA%EE%C7%D7%C9%E8%C4%C9%B5%AD%CD%D1 I forgot about this dank link full of the best hands in Tenhou ever.
2:0
>tfw you may have put a fellow /jp/bro on suicide watch
>KUYASHII
>>14505466
>tfw I'm on suicide watch now
calling everything is not a good strategy broseph
>>14505262
Now with music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Kji4F_TRM
>>14505699
>Dealer triple yakuman
Triple Ron is a tie, didn't know that.
>>14506203
Weak. You can tripled teamed on Janryuumon.
>http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/important-complex-taatsu-2.html
>8. 5566 shape
>Everyone might think of 5566 as two ryanmen, and there's a chance of becoming ippeiko. But to me, it's a bad shape. 5566 definitely has effective tiles overlapping. It might seem easy to draw 47 twice, but when there are other good taatsu, this should be quickly disposed of.
I don't see at all how 5566 is bad. It has effective tiles 4,5,6,7 with 12 uke-ire.
Can one of you /jp/ nerds do the math and tell me if it's a good shape to have?
Is there no way of using the windows client in economy mode?
I accidentally registered the ID I wanted to use from the client, and now I can't use it in free mode because it counts it as a 'reserved' name for someone whose free period expired.
>>14506210
I generally like it but I have no clue if it is objectively good
>>14506210
It depends on your hand. If you don't have a pair yet, it's great, otherwise not really. Imagine this hand:
123m / 56s / 5566p / 99p / FFF
If you discard 5s/6s you have 4p,5p,6p,7p,9p = 14 uke-ire
If you discard 5p you have 4s,7s,4p,6p,7p,9p = 20 uke-ire.
>>14506231
At last I truly see.
I guess in the end everything just goes back to manually counting the uke-ire for your hand.
>>14498260
The chart is not working.
Why can't I ron here? This has happened to me before.
>>14506312
FURITEN
>>14506312
check the chart again, my friend
>>14506312
>furiten
Your 7-sou says: "You can't call ron, bitch!"
>>14506312
Refer to the words in red.
Then proceed to the next step.
>>14504594
Reminder you lost to someone who doesn't know what furiten is. >>14506312
>>14506319
Oh, I supposed you couldn't ron on a 7sou if you discarded a 7sou, but it invalidates waits around that number? That sucks.
>>14506312
> フリテン
>>14506337
That's what furiten is. If you've:
1) Discarded a tile,
2) or passed on a tile and not taken a turn since,
3) or declared riichi and passed on a tile,
and that tile would complete your hand (a complete hand meaning 4 mentsu and a pair), then you're furiten. If you're furiten, you can't declare ron. It's that simple.
>>14506312
Gee I wonder what those red letters in that chart are.
>>14505699
>12:59 - 13:06
Absolutely SAKI
>>14505699
Source on the music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC4hFK5P3g
7447 anthem
>>14507032
Not enough pons desu senpai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOecrPD_jg
>>14506312
You have a 7sou in your discard. You're waiting on a 4 and a 7sou.
Look up and read furiten again.
>2:0
Thank you NoName
>>14507104
shut up weeb
Fuck I queued and forgot about it then realized in the middle of fapping the game had started. Trying to play and not lose the boner.
>>14507032
>>14507043
>pon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P6U3LRMFAY
Get on my level, faggots.
>>14507474
>that random zoom in on Yuuki's crotch
Do I play kuitan-nashi aka-nashi if I want less bullshit?
>>14507559
This or just play ranked.
>>14507504
>Yuuki's crotch
Why would you look at that?
>>14507749
They zoomed in on it not me, she is a cutie though
>>14507474
What's this? Akagi for pedophiles?
I can't like Saki. If I had to rank the three series about mahjong I've watched it'd be Saki => Tetsuya >>> Akagi
It's just that saki is too magical. There's no strategy, they all just have this powers like "she draws all the doras, and that other one makes all the kans, and that other one always ippatsu". It's boring.
Yeah yeah, I know, Akagi is kinda magical too. But at least he explains some of the things he does, be it cheating or going all psychological-magical, like the 2 pin wait, or how he stops washizu with those pones making him break his tenpai. Saki is just.. no strategy. Things happen because lesbian powers.
>>14507850
You don't watch Saki for the mahjong, you watch it for the girls.
>>14507850
>American math education
>>14507850
What about when Washizu was possessed by demons and grabbed his winning tile because of it, then Akagi dispelled the demons and made him drop the tile?
>>14507866
Shut up I'm tired and hungry and sad and horny
>>14507874
Well yeah. Washizu's magic is "luck". And it's a monster, everyone aknowledges it. Akagi just annoyed him because he didn't show any fear
Whereas in Saki is "here, let me introduce you to this group of 5 girls with specific mahjong superpowers. Now let me do that 50 times more"
2:0
>>14507850
The idea is not to be realistic, it is to be entertaining. If it was perfectly realistic games then it would not be as interesting because there would be more luck and less skill involved, and given the nature of the tournament it would seem completely arbitrary which teams won given how few games were played. It is better that it is a match of how strong each players skills/powers are than just who gets luckier.
Saki is not intended as a hardcore mahjong series, and instead is just an SoL series with mahjong as a focus, with a target audience who are not pro players and instead just play mahjong for fun, if at all
>>14507891
S O A
O
A
Why is it, after making a call sometimes, I am locked out of discarding certain tiles?
>>14508058
I forgot the exact term for it but you can't switch out tiles in a connecting sequence. So if you have 7-8-9 and call on 6, you can't discard the 9.
>>14508058
Because you're making shitty calls
>>14508076
>not wanting to strike fear into the hearts of your opponents by calling everything possible when your hand is already open
>>14508072
kuikae iirc
>>14508072
For what purpose?
>>14508095
Because then it would make kuitan even more prevalent, fuck that shit.
>>14508095
So you have to make more skillful and careful calls, like how furiten forces you to make skillful and careful discards
2:0 again.
Please put me out of my misery
>>14508292
I'm trying.
![[Jarzka] Saki 11 - Prank [480p 10bit DVD FLAC] [1415E84C].mkv_snapshot_08.05_[2014.08.22_21.50.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ofQTK2t.jpg "[Jarzka] Saki 11 - Prank [480p 10bit DVD FLAC] [1415E84C].mkv snapshot 08.05 [2014.08.22 21.50.53]")
>>14507850
Saki has tons of strategy. Not only is there realistic defensive play and realistic point/position strategy, but there's also strategy in how various mahjong powers interact with each other.
>>14507850
>Saki => Tetsuya >>> Akagi
Yeah I love Saki too.
The only truly decent mahjong part about Akagi was Akagi vs Urabe, if you forget Akagi's magical 4 dora. Tetsuya is more story telling than mahjong really.
Saki S2 lowered the fanservice and focused on mahjong.
>>14505699
Now that's what I call Tanoshii.
>>14507874
I think that was just a metaphor for psychological stuff. Like Akagi throwing Washizu off his game.
>>14507874
>can't tell hyperbole apart from facts
>>14508565
>can't tell metaphor apart from hyperboole
>>14498477
Can someone rehost this?
>>14508319
>realistic
>various mahjong powers
>>14508673
The powers are obviously not realistic, but that is not what he said.
>>14508416
>call pon on 6p, 7p, then kan 8p
>clearly going for chin/honitsu
>guy in front of him discards the fucking red dora 5p
???
>>14509138
It's called "Oh fuck, I kept this useless tile hoping to make something of it and now some guy is obviously going for tiles of this suit so I better hurry up and throw it out in hopes that he isn't in tenpai yet." It happens to people who are lost in hope.
>>14508622
https://a.uguu.se/qcfqzv_mahjong.7z
>>14509235
Thank you, anon.
>>14509138
Well, he's 2-dan.
>>14509138
Well, what happened, was he in tenpai or not?
Go back to 7447 faggots. 2:0
>>14509409
Guess I'll sit in lobby while I try to coherently explain that the red dora 5p guy was iishanten and he had shitty waits even if he did get into tenpai.
>>14509330
he was iishanten.
>drawing 1m
would have a shanpon wait (1s or 2s).
>drawing 1s
he can either discard 1s to wait on 1m or discard 1m to have a ryanmen wait on 2s and 5s.
>drawing 2s
shanpon wait on 1s or 2s after discarding 1m
>drawing 5s
shanpon wait on 1s or 2s after discarding 1m.
Probably missed some since I'm playing in 7447 right now, but yeah. He had minimal prospects of winning.
>>14509477
Post replay please.
9 (NINE) East 1 rounds.
>mfw
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122103gm-0009-0000-xb56cd572f201&tw=2
>>14510489
There is no better feeling in mahjong for me than racking up Honba as dealer.
>>14508319
> I can see all four 2m
> 1×2m + 2×1m
inb4 the other three 2m are in her hand. Meanwhile she thinks only of ryanmen like she plays against some hillbillies from Okinawa.
>>14509593
It's right here lol.
>>14508416
>>14510489
I did something similar once. Still stuck in 2dan, though.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015060715gm-0089-0000-18d33c62&tw=0
![[RUELL-Next] Azumanga Daioh EP13 (DVD 768x576 x264 VFR AC3 448K) [C0AC9BB6]_0022.png](https://i.imgur.com/i7I2CL5.png "[RUELL-Next] Azumanga Daioh EP13 (DVD 768x576 x264 VFR AC3 448K) [C0AC9BB6] 0022")
>>14508416
This hand scores kazoe yakuman by itself. And if you apply aotenjuu…
>>14510788
>And if you apply aotenjuu…
Suu Kantsu
Open Chinitsu
4 dora
Tanyao
Rinshan Kaihou
= 24 han
Also the hand should have 70 fu if I count correctly.
70*2^(2+24)*4 since tsumo by non-dealer = 18.790.481.920 points
>>14510816
I was always sure, that mahjong with aotenjuu ari was invented to fool those illiterate in math in selling all they have to pay the denbts.
Is noone in the lobby?
>>14510844
I can't see him, sorry.
>>14510555
Yes, the other three 2m are in her hand. The 1m are highlighted because her next two lines state that the only possible wait for 1m is a hell wait.
>>14510489
>1 player disconnected
To be fair, that scumbag probably would not have been able to do anything anyways.
thanks fukuda
>pon, chi, kan calls every second
>>14510991
Spectator here, don't be so sure about that. His South 4 and West 1 starting hands we're great. It's kind of a pity he disconnected.
>>14510991
Are you referring to the game I posted? Actually 2 players disconnected. It was just me and that super lucky guy who won almost every single hand in the end. I just barely managed to make 2nd place against two disconnected opponents. 3rd place had the exact same amount points, but I was dealer when the game ended.
>>14510489
The most I have ever gotten is seven in a row.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015121909gm-0009-7447-8100b928&tw=2
You stole my chi and then dealt in on my dealer turn. I hate you NoName.
I'm surprised i managed to win one hand.
>>14511275
Sorry, Anon.
Wow, how you fucked it so much shimocha?
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122107gm-0009-0000-cd5e6791&tw=0
Do any mahjong manga show a vicious dealer streak and the despair it causes?
>>14511602
Saki
This sneaky motherfucker right here.
>>14511602
Akagi has him adding honba even though it was 4th South round so that he could nip Washizu's money-line while he had the chance.
>>14511608
I'm working through that already.
>>14511717
But isn't Washizu already full-on despair regardless of that? The despair itself isn't important, it's seeing somebody's dreams slowly rot as the dealer spams open tanyao, yakuhai, and riichi nomi hand after hand.
>>14511731
He actually becomes glad when Akagi keeps adding honba since that's giving HIM chance to kill Akagi as well.
Until he realizes his money's all gone. Then the despair kicks in.
>>14511737
How many times exactly has Akagi built up Washizu only to knock him down now? Is it enough times that Washizu should have learned by now?
3:0
Before I started watching Saki, I was wondering if any of the players would have the gimmick of being "cursed" with bad luck, but it's predictable bad luck and thus actually makes them better.
>>14512022
Then you're probably looking at the mediocre girls, who no one cares about.
>>14512022
>>14512126
>Ueshige Suzu
>Nelly
That feel when you're finally back to R1500.
3:4
Get in 7447, now's your chance!
Fuck Mahjong.
>>14512393
Were you the one who went bust in 7447 just then?
>>14512408
If it was a No Name, yes.
>Disconnect half dozen times
>reconnect either ron'd or furiten
Words escape me
Just realized we had a pretty fast game. No dealer repeats at all.
>3:0
>>14511602
tohai
3:0
>>14512559
>>14512562
>waiting for one more
Every fucking time.
>ippatsu chiitoi tsumo
pls
I don't get it why didn't kyuuaaa discard the haku? The other faggot ponned it like 3 turns ago
>>14513256
It's the safest tile to discard for later, when other player hands start to become more dangerous to deal with.
Though, Ton and Chun were also relatively safe too. Sure, a little bit of efficiency is sacrificed; but all the other tiles discarded beforehand were worthless too.
Once that 3-pin came, then it was time to let go of that haku to finally make room for the rest of the hand.
I'll kill you dead
So where can I watch high level real life matches? Youtube just has clips from full matches.
>>14513334
A couple more channels like this. So here's Saikyosen's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/mjsaikyosen
>>14513346
Thanks anon, you are a god send. I didn't know what to search in japanese.
GYAKUTEEEENNNNNNN!!!!
F you GoGo. Dumb Haku.
>>14513358
I was thinking "fuck I need a direct hit and a mangan to pass him, sheeet" And then lo and behold.
>1:0
>0:4
Shouldn't have played that ranked game. It made me late and I lost anyway
>3:0
>>14514180
Why do you lie?
>all that pon
>6 dora
>>14497798
dump
>>14514607
Stop that.
Does anyone have that mahjong live action show that some Anon posted the subs for a few threads ago? I forgot the name but I think it was an adaptation of something.
>>14515225
The name was Tohai iirc and it's a manga adaptation. There's links on the Osamuko blog too I think.
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