What the fuck are these people supposed to be? I'm italian and from new york, these fucks come in and buy italian restaurants but keep the name and mess the food up. What are they muslims, europeans, slavs? Not to mention they try to emulate us, dress like us etc. The hell is wrong with these fuckers?
I belive that when gypsys came over here from india and were riding around without any purpose suddenly one of their carts broke the wheel. They couldn't fix it, so they had to stay. And this is how Albania was founded.
>>62236813
Biggest cockroaches in Europe just behind gypsy's
>>62236813
I think they're similar to t*rkroaches
>>62236813
caucasians that emigrated to the balkans a long time ago, if it helps you, picture georgians but muslim
>>62236878
Well that explains the flag
>>62236878
>>62236894
>>62236913
Heheheh, go fuck yourself gypoids.
>>62236878
this should be a banner
>>62236813
>hates Albos
True Italian
>>62236813
Nobody wants to Italian. Stop lying moor.
i've only met one albanian
he looked like Angry Joe and even had the same spiked hair and wore a leather jacket and he constantly talked about the "wonders of socialism". his accent sounded like a poopier version of russian.
>albanians
>muslims
There is actually a large minority of Catholic and Orthodox Christians
>>62237197
>large minority of christians
so in other words....the majority are muslim
>>62237197
you mean croatians and northern epirotes?
>>62237266
No, actual albanians. They will be the last white country in Europe.
>>62237266
Are the white minorities in Greece Slavic?
>>62237041
Why don't you fuckers ever stay in your own country?
>>62236813
>What the fuck are these people supposed to be?
They are European Muslims and their own language group. Their origin is unknown, they just suddenly started showing up in medieval texts. They claim to be Illyrians, but some dispute it. It is generally agreeded by scholars that they're some ancient Balkan tribe with a slight connection to Greeks that was completely obscure through most of history. Some attempted arguing that they came from Asia, but this theory is mostly rejected.
They are also the brownest and the poorest Balkanians which is why they are the Balkan of the Balkans.
They are also major Italiaboos and have collaborated with Italian fascists to a certain degree.
They had a communist state with a North Korea level of paranoia. They were very isolated and their leader had 700,000 bunkers built in case Americans, Yugoslavs or Soviets attempt invading them. Their military also experimented with having an army without officers/leaders with every soldier being self-reliant.
Basically, they're post-communist guido ancient Muslim Balkanians.
>>62239378
gubi se spavat
>>62239378
Genetic test say that Albanians are one of the most homogeneous people in Europe and have likely origin from a small group around 1400AD, it's likely they are a somewhat recent group of people
>>62239430
> WE
> WUZ
> ILLYRIAN
> AND
> SHIET
>>62237230
>>62237197
Most Albanians identify as Muslim on paper but in reality their only gods are Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche.
>>62239378
gubi se spavat da te ne gledam vise
>>62239981
Look who's talking
one of the most ancient nations in Europe. lived on their land speaking their language for millenia, long before Serbs came in from Russia or whatever. several Roman/Byzantine emperors were Albanian. Albanians served as advisers to the Ottoman sultans as well.
Their raki is potent so ... There's that.
Mut.
it's also believed that Leonardo da Vinci was Albanian.
>>62240253
Nah, Italian, His sensei was Albanian.
>>62240253
Actually, some people say that my dad might also have been Albanian
>>62241311
I heard his mother was probably Arab.
>>62236813
They're like Turks, like backwards Turks.
easy to trigger with three words
KOSOVO SE SRBIJA
>>62236878
laughed outloud
>>62242439
That means Kosovo is Serbing itself.
The last of the Illyrians. Forced to become mud slimes by the Ottoman occupation. Islam's only real beachhead into Europe until now [spoiler]Stockholm and Berlin[/spoiler].
>>62239981
>WE WUZ ALEXANDER THE GREAT
>>62237230
Yes the majority is Muslim but around 40% of the country is Catholic/Orthodox
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york
>muh heritage
>>62236813
mountainturks from across your sea who want to be like you
>I am Italian and from New York
Nice. I'm English from Naples.
>>62239430
Genetic tests also show that they're not even native europeans, but are closely related to north africans.
Albanian are literal rats. I would never ever trust a fucking albanian
>>62247422
Says the filthy gypo
>>62240025
they converted in the 18th century, which is rather late
>>62247476
says the "brave turanic horse warrior" top lel
>>62247495
says Abdullah
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york
ohhh it's another one of these "muh heritage" /int/ episodes
>>62242983
>Forced to become mud slimes by the Ottoman occupation
naah they remained christian throughout most of the Ottoman period, then converted in the last centuries to islam
MUH
>>62247501
says Attila kek
>>62247618
Says the truck driver
>>62237178
What's his name again?
>>62236813
Every cunt has its share of problems(check flag) however albanians are only 2-3 million yet in every city in western Europe there are albanian organized crime dealing in the most lowliest of bussinesses like child prostitution,organ trafficking etc etc. Shit they're the one's smuggling migrants into Europe,not to mention making up as much as 50% of the asylum claimants(muh siria). So statistically,for such a small number of people to have such a large amount of mafia type organizations ..well it means that your average albanian is either a criminal or related to one. I would stay very very far away from them
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york
MUH HERITAGE
>>62239430
>Genetic test say that Albanians are one of the most homogeneous people in Europe and have likely origin from a small group around 1400AD, it's likely they are a somewhat recent group of people
What about their ancient aliums language that isn't related to anyone else's around them?
>I am Italian and from New York
I'm Aboriginal from Finland
>>62236813
>I'm italian
>from new york
???
>>62247476
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.
>>62237197
>>62240025
t. Albanian
>>62236878
I belive that when gypsojews came over europe from middle east and india and were riding around without any purpose suddenly one of their carts broke the wheel. They couldn't fix it, so they had to stay. And this is how Poland was founded.
>>62239430
>and have likely origin from a small group around 1400AD
Kek, that's why the language is related to the language that existed there before Christ, right?
I'm not a haploautist but I did prove it many times that all genetic studies show that we are natives.
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york
>>62240175
Hehe. Sure thing Lulzim.
>>62249989
WE
They are illyrians, an ancient peoples closely related to romans.
notable personas: alexandar the great, ceasar
Feels good to be in a SLAV free country
>>62252779
Holy fugg where is this
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york, these fucks come in and buy italian restaurants but keep the name and mess the food up.
no you're not and the food is probably more authentic than your yank food
>>62252842
South coast, but specifically Dhermi
Albanians are our true brothers
unlike s*rvs
>>62253231
Long live Croatia! Albania! and NATO!
>>62253259
btw Kosova is Albania
Kosova eshte Shqiperi
Kosovo je Albanija
>>62242983
>>62240175
>>62239430
>>62239378
/thread
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vGIhm49Il8sJ:www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3F217716-The-truth-about-Albanian-origin-Latest-sources-revisited-Vol-II+&cd=2&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro
>>62253105
now lets be real here, the only way you guys could ever be respected is by establishing a functioning society and living standard with some degree of political or scientific influence
oh and at least get rid of islam, I advise you rather follow enver hoxhas example and become atheist again instead of this
>>62253547
Dropped like a brick in the shitter
>>62254066
all his sources are from world renownd linguists,archaelogicals,anthropologists.
Those are objective facts that are also sourced.
>>62236813
>I'm italian and from new york
>>62254144
>Those are objective facts
Kek, it's obvious from the descriptions of his profile.
I can also give "objective" facts out of my ass and cite some random books that imply the opposite
>>62254313
>Kek, it's obvious from the descriptions of his profile.
>no true scotsman
99% of his sources are from non-serbians, and especially from world renowed experts in their field.
>>62254144
>>62254401
read this if you want to know whether Albanians are Illyrian or not
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31750-Illyrian-and-Albanian-a-linguistic-approach/page3
>>62254502
>http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31750-Illyrian-and-Albanian-a-linguistic-approach/page3
I do not have time for the pseudo-science in that thread.Come back with actual facts not "look we have 5-6 words of possibly illyrian origin so we are ilyrians".Anyway, the people in that thread do a good job at busting every argument from albanians.
here are actual facts from world renowed experts, a compilation of the latest sources
>>62253547
>>62236813
We wuz queens n sheit
>>62254401
>the sources
You see the mention of a book and think it's legit? Book content can be twisted by readers as they want, stop being so blind pls. I can prove easily prove wrong all what he said with citations of old writers but it's not worth the time.
>>62254714
>You see the mention of a book and think it's legit?
What do you mean?He clearly took pictures from the books pages and even translated them.So you can judge for yourself.
>>62254761
Let's take the first ones.
>we can say with confidence that they are not from here
>no source in the book
>no proof
>nothing mentioned in history about mass migrations
Second.
He uses the name Albania argument, which is total bullshit because it was a name given to us in the late centuries because of an illyrian tribe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanoi
Argument invalid, you can imagine the rest.
>>62252779
>>62253105
>nobody on the beach
>no tourist want to go to shitty Albania
ahahahahah
>>62254949
>no source in the book
He puts the conclusion of the thread first.The sources are in his posts,that spread 3 pages :)
>He uses the name Albania argument, which is total bullshit because it was a name given to us in the late centuries because of an illyrian tribe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanoi
Oh boy, only if you would have read the thread
"6.Who are Albanoi? They were one of the Celtic tribes that in 4th century BC left Albion (Scotland-Ireland), spreading over to the mainland of France, continuing to Iberia and through Switzerland (Alps) down to Italy where they sacked Rome (Monti Albani), from there, they went settling down to Balkans over the Dalmatian coast where they finally reached Albania and found Balkan Albany. They continued their path further to the East, all the way up to Caucasus, where a river named Alba still flows into the Caspian Sea. This thesis of Albanian origins by opinion of Kaplan Burović solves all of their open questions in regards to anthropology, ethnography and linguistics. He is joined in this opinion by several Albanian scholars too. Indeed, we shall also provide further genetic evidence which undisputedly support his thesis. Please read the chapter of K.Burović "Who are Albanoi?" in detail attached in spoiler."
>>62236878
Top kek
>>62254647
Literally the same thing applies to your linked forum,word by word.
Stop being so ignorant.
>>62255064
The diference is that the thread I posted is a sum of objective SOURCES(books, official genetic&anthropological studies, writtings) and not a subjective thread.
That first sentence is excellent bait OP. All these summerfags eating it up crack me up
>>62255023
>The sources are in his posts
I still see no historical proof, only fan fiction.
>>62255023
so he says that we're celts, he doesn't even know what he's giving arguments for
>hating on Albanians
>>62255106
If I make the same thing with objective sources and citations from old books, will you finally shut up and put your small brain to use?
Also:
>>62254401
>99% of his sources are from non-serbians
>>62255023
>This thesis of Albanian origins by opinion of Kaplan Burović
DROPPED.
I thought you said they were foreigners? He has a Serbian name.
>>62255202
>I still see no historical proof, only fan fiction.
It is not my problem you cannot read english.The sources are posted right there.See left
>so he says that we're celts, he doesn't even know what he's giving arguments for
you are not celts, pay closer attention.You have immigrated in Albania, a celtic land , and assimilated them.
>>62255282
He's the one who collected the sources.
>>62255269
old books are old for a reason.I do not take Hoxha regim made books for a reason.Before Hoxha albanians didnt even know illyrians existed.
>>62255357
Some Albanians look very Celtic though, something I've noticed before.
They may even be related to the Belgians who ended up in Anatolia, called themselves Galatians.
>>62255480
Pseudoscience.You dont even know what a celt looks like.
>>62255357
I don't think you can read either, give me the exact sentence that gives historical PROOF that we came form east.
>>62236813
cockroaches desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0eaObJVpA
>>62236878
first post best post
this should be in history books
>>62255558
I live amongst them and surrounded by them m8
>>62255587
The proofs span over 4 pages so I cannot post here.Read the thread.
Anyway,here's a #REKT.Albanian Academy not even today can answer the 12 anti-illyrian arguments made by Gustav Weigand, who was a world expert in balkanic languages.It is obvious that you are not illyrians.
"8.That Albanians are not sons of Illyrians has been accepted back in 1972 on Assembly of Illyrian studies in Tirana. Back then the whole world had learned about the true origins of these Albanians. Eqrem Chabej in the middle of Tirana announced, that Albanians had been acquainted with Gustav Weigand and his 12 arguments.
Cya , I have to go.Read the thread for more.
>i'm italian
>and from new york
Albanians are a menace, infesting their neighboring countries' cities. They don't even want to live in their own country, kek.
>>62255710
If such proof were to exist, serves would be all over the place
But it doesn't, all that exist are made up theories to make us look like foreigners so they can take Kosovo
I need help brahs. A colony of Albanians have moved into my neighborbood. They bought out a shitty strip of stores and opened some "social club" (looks more like a gambling den though). Their arrival has also coincided with a sharp increase in gypsy sightings. Last night I saw the police arrest a bunch of gyppos (or Albanians, idk tbqh) for transporting five laundry bags full of untaxed cigarettes in a minivan with a spare wheel on and duct tape holding all the windows in place.
Anyway, what's the best defense against Shqipers? Do I have to buy some gypsy charms or maybe look into curses or hexes? I'm willing to sacrifice some goats if need be. Or maybe just call immigration control. What is the natural weakness of the Albanian? Pic related, it's their clubhouse. No grills allowed
>>62254179
you gwan dun me up
>>62255856
No one cares about albanians.There is no theory here, just objective facts that cannot be denied.
> all that exist are made up theories to make us look like foreigners so they can take Kosovo
ironic statement since your illyrian origin was invented during Hoxha regime in order to get territorial claims in the ex-illyrian territories.
>>62255880
just dont tell clinton
>>62255928
>No one cares about albanians
No one cares about you either, but we have a whole nation of butthurt serves caring about us and Kosovo. Kind of sucks to read their shit theories.
>There is no theory here
Neither facts bby. Know the difference between facts and speculations.
>>62256026
See the thread i posted all 4 pages are full of objective facts that cannot be denied.Your illyrian theory(that was never accepted) is again attacked from all angles.
or better yet see >>62255710 for a compilation of statements from Albanian Academy scholars.
>>62256026
Being illyrian or not is of no importance in kosovo's question.National borders are made by self-determination.
>>62247713
Angry Joe
>>62255880
>Anyway, what's the best defense against Shqipers?
Don't worry we don't like niggers but we won't attack you
Take care of your bubreks tbhh
When I saw images of durka muslim Albanians I saw instead of the bearded Arabs or even round- and square-faced muslim Slavs and Dinarics like the Bosnians, but instead I saw people that were white and with face shapes that could be my neighbour's waving IS flags.
That was pretty confronting. As it appears that the R1b must be strong in some places there. Who knows the Albanoi were a lost tribe of Belgian colonists, who had many settlements in both Albion and Eire.
>>62256134
>are full of objective facts
Yeah, saying we're from east is a fact even though genetic, historical and linguistic studies prove the opposite. Fuck off retard, all it took for you to fall blindly for that shit were a bunch of pages that don't give literal facts
>>62256355
>he says there are no facts
>refuses to even look at the thread
full denial state.
>Yeah, saying we're from east is a fact even though genetic, historical and linguistic studies prove the opposite
Dont think so, its the opposite.
>>62256391
It's OK man. You're talking to an Albanian. Did you actually expect logic and reason to be the driving forces in the conversation? lol
>>62256391
Alright retard, I'll argue with you.
Cite all the sentences that undeniably give proof that we're from east.
I won't accept retarded lines like: modern albanians who came from east settled there.
Let's see how strong your arguments are.
>>62256484
>serve arguments
>their flag appeared in a stadium so let's beat the players
>>62256493
>Cite all the sentences that undeniably give proof that we're from east.
>I won't accept retarded lines like: modern albanians who came from east settled there.
basically
>post facts that we came from east
>I wont accept facts that show we came from east
You are either low IQ or in severe denial mode.
Anyway Im done with you, im wasting my time.Read the thread if you want answers :)
>>62256566
You're the low iq one.
A fact is that for example an ancient Greek writer wrote about a group of people leaving middle east to settle in the Balkan. Such doesn't exist.
A modern scholar saying that out of his ass with no proof in a book doesn't count as source.
>>62236878
I died
>>62256656
the one with low IQ*
>>62236813
>What the fuck are these people supposed to be?
cancer
>>62256656
>A fact is that for example an ancient Greek writer wrote about a group of people leaving middle east to settle in the Balkan. Such doesn't exist.
Facts can be writtings,archaelogical,genetical,anthropological,linguistical.
>A modern scholar saying that out of his ass with no proof in a book doesn't count as source.
Like it was already showed above, all the facts are sourced.It simply you in denial mode that refuse to even read.
Do not reply to me again.
>>62249907
They wouldn't be able to live in our rough terrain. they'd rather live in flat and unpopulated Pooland. The reason it exists today.
>>62236813
How can you be Italian if you're from New York?
utter slime, anyone who has read up on the history of the Balkans would know they're shit.
Inherently, everyone in the Balkans is petty and backwards to an extent, but Albanians take that backwardness to entirely new levels. Without a doubt the scum of Europe.
>>62256773
Lmao Albania thinking it's not filled with gypsys and t*rkroaches
>>62257028
wow you're quite an american disgrace
us and albania are besties
>>62257087
>trusting US news media
I would rather form my own opinions.
>>62256756
>archaelogical,genetical,anthropological,linguistical.
Except hose ones prove that we are natives.
>archaelogical
There are old illyrian graves in Koman and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Tombs_of_Selca_e_Poshtme
An old illyrian stone that could be only read in gheg. I'll find the name of it in no time.
>genetical
I don't see this shit being frequent somewhere else.
>linguistical
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_languages#Relation_to_Albanian
Writings, I've read many ones. Will provide pics soon.
>>62236813
>"""Italian""" from New York complaining about other people pretending to be Italian
>>62257072
At least we put them to do the hard works, fat blacks like you have the best jobs in Obeseland.
>>62257087
Wow, Barack Obama is whiter than the Prime Minister of Albania. That is amazing.
>>62257237
Yeah, Obama looks like a white pole
>>62257198
Lmao do you honestly think you're relevant?
>>62257152
Like it was proved already, your post gets utter demolished here
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vGIhm49Il8sJ:www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3F217716-The-truth-about-Albanian-origin-Latest-sources-revisited-Vol-II+&cd=2&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro
Post #3, #4, #5 Linguistics
You get a breakdown an explanation of albanian language, "illyrian words" in albanian and multiple other things.
Post #6 Genetic evidence
Post #7 Anthropology
Also the website has a database error, untill its fixed you cannot acces pages 2,3,4.They entered even more in details.
>>62257309
Who the fuck said that you fattie?
>>62257332
Yours give database error.
>You get a breakdown
Yeah, right, the toponyms are all a breakdown. In case you haven't noticed there are a shitton of dialects here and all pronounce words differently. It's been 2 milleniums, of course two letters will change.
But anyway, I've had it with you cocksucker. You can believe your serve pseudo facts with no evidence just because you like his pretty academic writing.
>>62257588
yes theapricity often has errors in website
>Yeah, right, the toponyms are all a breakdown. In case you haven't noticed there are a shitton of dialects here and all pronounce words differently. It's been 2 milleniums, of course two letters will change.
>le subjective remarks
kekerino
>
But anyway, I've had it with you cocksucker. You can believe your serve pseudo facts with no evidence just because you like his pretty academic writing.
all the evidences are there posted.Its you in denial mode :)
>>62257666
>mal - mal - mountain
>bardi - bardhi - white
>can - qen -dog
>delme - delme -sheep
>bilia - bija - daughter
etc etc
Wow, such breakdown, no way those basic words are related.
You still haven't given a single historical proof of ancient writers who lived at that time. I can also write a book and say middle easterns brought indians in Romania and settled there. Then they called the country ROMAnia. Then you'd eat it up, see?
>>62257892
Why do you refuse to even read facts then keep coming with this Hoxha made fantasies?
Yet again your posts are utterly destroyed.Only if you would have read first before posting.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vGIhm49Il8sJ:www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3F217716-The-truth-about-Albanian-origin-Latest-sources-revisited-Vol-II+&cd=2&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro
Again Post #3, #4, #5 Linguistics
There are very few words from illyrian found, and none look like that in Albanian.The only illyrian words are a few(4-5) city names kept in Albanian, but they are not directly inherited from illyrian.
>>62236878
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>>62258194
Told you it has database problems.
I wants facts, not theories. Did you ever go to school? Don't they teach you the basics of an argumentative essay? A modern writer speculating about the past with no confirmation of old documents is not a fact. Mentioning circumstantial facts to make up a hypothesis and presenting it as true does not make it a fact.
The languages are a fact. The archeological documents are facts. Archeological things such as Apollonia (influenced by Greeks) and Koman which had everything mentioned about illyrians in Greek books.
>There are very few words from illyrian found, and none look like that in Albanian
You have a whole list of them, they survived through 2 millenias of occupations just by being spoken since writing was not allowed.
>>62258627
Ignore my typos.
But as I said, you sound too thick to think past what you read. You're probably the same autist that everyone made fun of back then. I wasted too much time here.
>be romanian
>>62258627
the page I gave you has no database problem.Its archived and works very well.
>You have a whole list of them
are you saying that mal,bardi,can,delme,billia are illyrian words
>I wants facts, not theories
All the facts are presented.You refuse to read.
> A modern writer speculating about the past with no confirmation of old documents is not a fact
Not true.The absence of proof is not the proof of absence.You do not need some ancient historian to record a migration.
>>62258745
I posted wikipedia with the list of words.
>The absence of proof is not the proof of absence
You are retarded.
>You do not need some ancient historian to record a migration
You are clinically retarded. You think the global history came out of your ass?
>>62258890
>You are clinically retarded. You think the global history came out of your ass?
History is not written according to the writtings.These writtings apss througha filter first.
Anyway, by your same logic, allthough all Albania territory was under byzantines, they never wrote about albanians untill 12th century.Because obviously you are not native there and you migrated.
>I posted wikipedia with the list of words.
which are from Hoxha made revisionist books.
Lets take for example the ones you posted:
>mal - from proto-indo-european,also found in baltic languages
>bardi also found in armenian and georgian and baltics. Proto-Indo-European *bʰrh1ǵ- ‘to gleam, shine’
>can - obviously from latin "canis" meaning dog though romanian intermediar
>delme from Proto-Kiranti: *dèl " son-in-law"
>bilia from proto-indo-european Bīja also in sanskrit
again only a few illyrian words were found, you can count them on fingers.Rest are suppositions made by albanian revisionists
There is nothing illyrian about albanian.Read actual Albanian Academy instead of centuries old revisionism.
>>62259282
My mistake, delme is not from kiranti i mistaked the word
>>62259377
its from Proto-Indo-European *dʰeh1-l-.
>>62259282
You need historical confirmation, not words in air.
>Anyway, by your same logic, allthough all Albania territory was under byzantines
There was a map for it and it included today's Albania.
>they never wrote about albanians untill 12th century
Because we were tribal, didn't have our own state and weren't called albanians.
As fot the words, they have the same meaning in albanian. By that logic, caucasians in middle east are scots because they have the same name.
4chan banter aside, we look nothing like middle easterns. I know it's hard to imagine it when your head is filled with int memes and haploautism, but I live here and the people look like every other balkanites. Come to think of it, in the balk faces pic, you guys look the worst.
>>62259282
>>62259377
>>62259463
Fuck off Ros.
>>62259377
>i mistaked
Why don't you learn proper English first?Maybe then you'll be able to actually understand things better and give a decent opinion instead of making yourself look like an idiot.
>>62259737
>You need historical confirmation, not words in air.
True.But historical confirmation does not mean "recording of a migration".
>There was a map for it and it included today's Albania.
see >>62255357
About Albanopolis, it is clearly explained there plus here #2
"Albanoi(an)s, they are a celtic tribe which on the territory of Albania, in the region Mat, arrives in the IV century BC. Today’s Albanians, actually, only much, much later take over their name, as have done today’s Bulgarians from the non slavic Bulgars of Asparuh, or today’s French, from the old germanic Franks, deforming the old celtic name Arlbn/Arlbr.".
>Because we were tribal, didn't have our own state and weren't called albanians.
they didnt write of any non-greek populations living there.Only greeks lived there.
jesus christ these romanian fantasies wont end
>>62259911
>But historical confirmation does not mean "recording of a migration"
Yes it does. You can't make shit up with 0 proof.
>About Albanopolis
You lack reading comprehension. The only reason serbs assume we're from east is because there is a territory called Albania in the causcus. According to you, the arabs from causcus are scottish people? No. This is why that theory has been debunked badly but serves keep insisting on it.
>>62259964
I'm worse for replying
>>62260097
There's a caucasian Iberian as well right next to the caucasian Albania.
>tfw serbs think I feel insulted by being called chechen
>>62260162
Looks like a cool place. But we aren't related to it.
>>62260097
>The only reason serbs assume we're from east is because there is a territory called Albania in the causcus
no one assumes you are from caucasus.East does not mean caucasus.The nonly theory debunked is the illyrian one, this is why today no one accepts it and even albanian academy has big doubt about it.
>Yes it does. You can't make shit up with 0 proof.
no it does not.thousands mirations go unnoticed.
>>62260627
>tfw resisted every single migration
the orthodox ghegs had a harder time, they became serbs or greeks
>>62260798
you are the migrators
I fucking hate Albanians not even kidding.
Easily the worst immigrants
>>62261022
i dont think so, slavo-roman-avar-vlaho-gypso boi
>>62261023
im gonna go out tonight and fuck some germanics desu they love my illyrian cock
Found the page nr2 archived.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Wxd4l1t4y5kJ:www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3F217716-The-truth-about-Albanian-origin-Latest-sources-revisited-Vol-II/page2+&cd=1&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro
Page number 3 archived
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4xkRmjENccIJ:www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3F217716-The-truth-about-Albanian-origin-Latest-sources-revisited-Vol-II/page3+&cd=1&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro
>>62261107
wow now that's some epic bantz!!
>>62260627
You are ignorant on this topic. Stick to your own country, I'm sure you can find from which region of India you unnoticingly migrated from. I'm sure your local gypsy community will get too fascinated with your autism to notice the bullshit you'll be speaking,
Kys faggot.
>>62261023
Enjoying the bombings near, Mohamed?
>>62261138
what bantz? I constantly see Albanian men here fucking your germanic whores, to be fair, even Ahmad manages to do it senpai
Anyway i got to go now
cya
hope you learned something today.
>>62261107
Good luck Toni, they like only sandniggers like the one you're replying too.
>>62261198
i learned that romania is 90% gypsy desu
>>62261023
Haha holy shit boris drop the slav proxy already
>>62261198
I learned that romanian education is africa tier
>>62261217
It's Klinton bro but thanks, the cock of Krasni Lazi, father of the Krasniqi clan is going to smack as many germanic women as possible tonight.
>>62261291
D00d
>>62261291
Can you stop with the cringe pls lad
Are any Albanians itc muslim or from a muslim background ?
>>62261198
I learned that romania is cliniacally ovsessed with albanians, like wtf are you doing in your spare time no one gives a shit about albanian-romanian relations
>>62261535
muslim background yes I guess
>>62261575
Are you a Fedora ?
Your opinions on Arabs ?
What is your relationship with Catholic Albanians like ?
how do you feel about Islam ?
>>62261671
>Are you a Fedora ?
sadly yes
>Your opinions on Arabs ?
majority are shit but met some decent folk, I respect them in a lot of ways
>What is your relationship with Catholic Albanians like ?
I 'mire them
>how do you feel about Islam ?
better than atheism even though im a fedora myself
>>62261715
Thanks for answering
Last question i forgot to ask
What brought you to Sweden ?
>>62261344
got your back, phoneposting sucks
eh moj vlora
>>62261777
born here, sadly
>>62236813
They do exactly what you said here too. I've been unable to make sense of these fuckers for the past 20 years. At least those that i deal with have spent so many years in Greece now that they act normal at this point
>>62261908
>20 yrs
albanians have been in greece for almost a millenia
>>62262121
In case it wasn't clear for 20 years I have had experience with them.
Also the huge invasion happened during the 80's were the government flipped the fuck out and offered green cards to all of them.
>>62262187
you have had experience with them in your entire life, they are in your blood arvanitolus
>>62262232
I'll keep it serious.
I have nothing in common with their culture and customs. Also greeks mostly choose brighter bussiness ideas instead of everyone buying a pizza restaaurant or something similar.
Most Albanians act like they didn't finish highschool in every aspect of their lives.
>>62261908
>now that they act normal at this point
You mean you made them gay, don't you?
>>62262381
>I have nothing in common with their culture and customs.
that's probably because you're some slavic fag from thessaloniki and not a part of the cretan masterrace
>Also greeks mostly choose brighter bussiness ideas instead of everyone buying a pizza restaaurant or something similar.
yeah they take loans from the kraut to fulfill a huge business idea which will eventually fail cause the country is 3rd world at this point
>>62262390
Implying gays are somehow better ?
We offered them green cards and better than their past gulag-like living conditions.
Be thankfull.
>>62262449
Im actually Athenian , my father was CFO in Hilti and Ford and i work in IT
Id rather hang myself than becoming a Cretan hill billy.
>>62236813
>What the fuck are these people supposed to be?
they are ancient illyrians
>>62262523
>Im actually Athenian
ah. the capital of arvanites.
good on you and your father, brother. hope you do well in life.
I always thought cretan-hate was a meme, they seem like such alpha males.
>>62262232
I love you kosovolad but can you ease it a tad bit, you dont have to grapple every single slavo/freek bait XD
i know someone named arnaud is he shqiptar?
>>62262581
bait? i thought everyone is serious in this site
>>62262653
everyone is fucking serious here
yes
>>62262624
I think the arvanauts are descendants of the ancient argonauts
the g -> w shift was common in east germanic shperes
From afar the eagle on their flag looks like a tick, which I think is way more representative of them.
>>62262849
t*rks call albanian arnavuts
>>62236878
based Pole
"The Albanian language is an Indo-European language in a branch by itself, sharing its branch with no other extant language."
/threadgohomenothingtoseehere
>>62263125
but it's not related to Illyrian, since one is satem other is centum language
and there are a shitload of latin loadwords
>>62263184
>belgium
>a made up country
Dont worry about us, you worry about not getting blown up
>>62236813
>What are they muslims, europeans, slavs?
Nothing, they are their own group. Even their language is not related to any other europaen language.
>>62236813
Just kill them as fast as possible.
>>62249907
*Sarmatians, but you are correct about the rest
>>62265771
No, jews.
>>62265244
Crap, I'm reporting you to the police for possible muslim attacks.
>>62236878
this
Albanians are niggers of Europe, I am yet to meet somebody who thinks otherwise
>>62265874
yes you have, your average retarded croat nationalists gets along with albos because of the hate for serbs
>>62236813
Albanians come originaly what is called today Azerbajan.
From the beginning they got opressed right away, the sassanid(persia) empire basicly sent their kommanders in and they told the albanian king to do what they want. Latter they immigrated to ilurian nation, trying to escape sassanid opression.
By immigration they assimilated some and mostly outbreeed and destroyed illurians. Then latter moved on to the west and balkans. They got converted to orthodox by the macedonians and greeks in South
Latter romans(italians) came and converted them to catholicism in the north.
then came ottomans and forced them to convert to islam.
But most albanians dont practice those religions, they worship satan and are into black magics and voodo.
they come to greece, are loud and unclean as fuck, most of them don't even study or graduate and form gangs literally from middle school
their national food are cigarettes and their national weapon is the swiss knife
it's kinda like a virus, I've seen greeks that were good people become vermin carrying knives and doing drugs when influenced by a big group of albanians. I've met like 4-5 decent albanians
I remember in High School when there was an albanian guy who was really shy. Someone from my class (who was also albanian) asked him "do you want some weed or coke man? come on" kind of jokingly. The other guy responded "No, wtf of course not!" and then he responded "I can't believe you are Albanian"
>>62266413
Is there a single german with german flag? I don't think I've come across one.
>>62255880
Don't make eye contact with any of them. Or say hi, or argue or anything. They will probably beat you up, be thankful they are elderly (from what seems like)
>>62256730
>albanians used a greek word to showcase their need of greek and serbian territories
KEK
E
K
>>62266605
Caucasian Albania, also known as Alvank in Armenian, Ardhan in Parthian, Arran in Persian, and Al-Ran in Arabic, was an ancient kingdom, which existed on the territory of present-day Republic of Azerbaijan and southern Dagestan. The name "Albania" is Latin, and denotes "mountainous land". The native name for the country is unknown. Modern Azerbaijanis tend to regard ancient Albanians as the root of their nationality.
>>62266505
I'd like to respond with that pic of greeks sleeping in the streets corners
>unclean
Really? We don't shit in bins my friend.
they used to be kinda based before the 15th century
They were orthodox, and some of them came to Constantinople to study and were loyal subjects/allies to the Greeks. Their national hero (Skanderbeg) was a defender of Christianity against T*rks but now they dishonor him by being muslim scum and burning churches.
Then they mixed with the turks in order to gain favors by being Vezirs and shiieet
>>62266723
>The name "Albania" is Latin, and denotes "mountainous land"
Kek, no. Alba means white, Albania white lands. Srptard get your facts right.
>>62266791
I have literally never seen someone speaking Greek being homeless
Most homeless people are either Kurds or Iraqis
>>62266840
Basicly this, Albanians dont exists anymore. They got fucked by turks, thus are kebabos.
Albania is a great country, I'm albanian
>>62266858
i just copypaste from azerbajanian website. dont worry turk you arent albo anyway.
>>62266919
What about you? How did you get cucked like this?
>>62266964
I am Albanian.
>>62267031
>You
Iam not serb.
the only way of albanians to redeem themselves is to renounce isl*m and help us take constantinople
>>62267248
This desu
>>62267248
they gave kurds ak47 for free when they wer communist.
Albanians are white.
>>62267132
Okay Ahmed, but I'm still reporting you to the police.
Serbs are so gangsta, they fuck princesses while the princess is married to a fucking prince of england.
>tfw not a serbian man
>>62236813
Why did Albanians (and Bosnians) convert to Islam, while none of the other balkan nations did, despite being in the same situation of Ottoman rule?
>>62267720
you tell me, buddy
>turn on lights
serb
>start your car
serb
>turn pc on
serb
>use internet
serb
>fly to space
serb
>revive a person to live
serb
>microwave your food
serb
Anything you use for electricity you basicly use serb invention.
Realy makes you thank.
>>62267788
He was actually Albanian. His family is from Niksic in Montenegro.
>>62267720
because they are weak faggots. nobody calls big brother(nato) in a fair fight of 2 school boys.
>>62267742
What the fuck?
>>62267857
Realy makes you think...
>>62267857
>Monte
>negro.
KANGZS AND SHIT
Albanians are scum of the earth, Get outta my country.
>admire skanderbeg for killing muslims
>be muslim
HAHAA
>>62268049
t. schwarzwälder
>>62268204
Who the fuck wants to enter your shit country?
>>62266840
Skanderberg sounds german as fuck.
>>62268279
Albanians
>>62268304
Yes+
Just like Goldberg, Silberberg and Shekkelgrubber-Hiedler and Nussbaum
>>62268279
I mean having to deal with Serbs and Bosnians was hard enough but at least I could understand the obscenities they were shouting at me...
>>62268279
>slovenia
>shit
not to mention there was some albanian from slovenia posting here so... yeah..
>>62268322
Not even us. Slovenes are the shittiest people in Europe, arrogant, annoying and gossipers.
>>62268444
It was Shkodran in a trip.
>>62268381
It is a german name, you can be german and jewish.
>>62268501
True desu
>>62268501
Your criminals here are worse than the slovenes though, by far.
Why is your diaspora so shit?
>>62268546
nope, wasn't him 100%
>>62268304
That's a title. His name is Gjergj Kastrioti.
Why everyone bully Albania?
>>62268606
>le diaspora so bad meme
It's your fault for letting in emigrants, instead of complaining about us, do something about the 800000 refugees in your cunt
unless you're the serve, in that case fuck off
>>62268651
butthurt because they think we're muslims and shitty neighbors
>>62268651
balkaniggers being balkaniggers
all are the same shit, all have awful diaspora, and think they are better than their neighbors
>>62236813
They're not Slavic and yes,Albanians love to emulate all cultures which they see as "great",then they proceed to claim it as theirs.
>>62268877
Actually we have a comedy skit about this on a popular show
>>62269061
post link
>>62269061
if only you knew how many dark comedy skits we have to make fun of each-other
>>62269139
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43qe3n
>>62269172
I can imagine how balkan banter can get pretty dark
>>62269620
>I can imagine how balkan banter can get pretty dark
really? >>62268318
>>62254502
I'm reading it now. While I wouldn't reject a connection with Illyrian, I think the evidences for it are too slim.
The mutations mentioned in the post (/o/>/a/ and nasal+stop>nasal) are too fucking common; by those, one could even claim Portuguese is Illyrian, since you can find both.
Conservative features rarely hint relationship either...
desu all albanians should die, basicly turks but worse
Can't comment much on the country since I've never been. From what I hear it's a huge poverty ridden trash-heap.
In terms of posters, Albanians are some of the most boring posters on their board. Absolutely shit tier banter and their only "contribution" here is to defend their ilk.
>>62270199
hey fuck you I did banter around
>>62270154
>says the nigger loving cuck
>>62271018
not an argument roach
>>62257339
fat like a true king bitchboi
>>62271133
yes it is, you are roaches who seek niggers for breeding
your opinion is not valuable
>>62271350
t.national stereotypes.com
also not an argument roach, why would i be seeking niggers for breeding
>>62271424
because you croat turkroaches are known for worshipping black asses and being the ultimate cucks of /int/
>>62271532
>2 person spam it out of sattire
wewlad.jpg
you are dumber than i thought
>>62271350
>literally sucking croat dick 24/7
>suddenly they are the worst people on /balk/
Around blacks never relax
>>62271850
it's all about generalisations, forgot about it roachie?
>>62271998
yeah, but 2 posters are negro lovers
but you are all roaches
>>62272049
and you're all brown turkroaches?
literally no one in the balkans is this swarthy >>62271350
maybe that's why you like blacks
>>62236878
This should be made into a banner
After some more reading: the Illyrian hypothesis is shit.
>>62272438
>croats
>from here
those arent croats if they live in that shithole
Albania is a fag boys like all Europeans kukold Gays fuck their women and they are tolerant Arabs pidorski look and lick their asses . Serbia is our brothers if you offend them you fucked
>>62272510
tabulation is a thing you know, those kids have nothing in common with you niggers
Can't you Balkan people ever get on? You're all basically the same people anyway.
>>62236813
>300+ posts
>no mention of Thracians or Dacians
wew lads
>>62272590
I am sorry that the Serbs did not destroy your miserable country
>>62272524
>Gays fuck their women and they are tolerant Arabs pidorski
are you fucking serious mongol
>>62272874
>are you fucking serious mongol
If I was from Russia that does not mean that I am Russian , schmuck . I'm from the North Caucasus , we have for these words are killing fuck
>>62267031
>Guča GYPSIE Annual Trumpet Festival
If that isn't enough to explain why there are Gypsies in the picture waving the Serbian flag, I don't know what to tell you.
>slav tries to remove shqip
>slav gets liver removed instead
IMPOSIBRU TO MAKE THIS UP
Slavs chimpin out yet again because they didnt cuck us like the rest of balk. Goddamn feels good being a shqip.
>>62273402
you piece of shit Albanian and Muslim whore
>>62273382
Anyone can tell that. I'm just bantering.
>>62273508
SLAV GETS STABBED IN THE GUT
DID NOT AND COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP
>>62273508
>>62273706
Who /youtube wars/ here?
>>62273706
you fucked ? I Slav, Russian multinational country you are uneducated rednecks . I'm from the North Caucasus . we have for saying so you cut off the head
>>62272615
They're busier with the political shitfest than actually trying to track Albanian origins.
Dacia is a strong candidate - hilly, inside the Roman Empire, far enough to have both satem and centum features... this would make Albanians related to Romanians, but we need genetic data to check this.
>>62273568
Okay, mate.
The thing is, even if you are Illyrians (just as the todays Italians are Romans and todays Greeks are Ancient Greeks) we've come here in the 6th century. And even if we displaced you from Kosovo, we've held it for over a thousand years and were a majority of the population until the 1800's.
Anyway, I'd like if we could strike a deal considering Kosovo to cut our losses and end this hatred, but that obiviously isn't going to happen
"The Albanian language is an Indo-European language in a branch by itself, sharing its branch with no other extant language."
/threadwasdoneformanypostsago
>>62274485
I do think we're related to the natives here because everything points to it and I think we managed to coexist after a bunch of wars. I think it's the cheap mentality and nationalism turks planted in the balkans that no one gets along anymore. As for Kosovo I think you should forget about it since it's majority albanian now and fighting to get it would cost us all
>>62274035
fuck you бpaзильcкaя whore
>>62274789
Proszę Iwan, you first.
>>62274774
иди нaхyй блять пидop aлбaнcкий i fuck you mother
>>62274855
I can't read your chink letters
back to youtube o pall
>>62274774
We still regard it as ours, but if this retarded governmet really wants to get us into EU, Kosovo will be adressed. And if we're going to hell, we'll pull the rest of us with us. We could strike a deal and get the part of Kosovo where the Serbian population resides and make enclaves around the monasteries.
>>62274855
Nice dubs.
You said that you're from the North Caucasus, which nation are you?
>>62275031
Yes , I'm from the Republic of Dagestan . My father was an Avar and Chechen mother
>>62275031
Kosovo is not yours, get over it
instead of being ready to die for stupid nationalisms, I suggest you to work to get into EU
>>62274966
"Fuck you (go to dick), fucking Albanian fag".
>>62275221
Kosovo is Serbia , and you're a whore Albanian
>>62275221
We stand nothing to gain from going into the EU.
We have a saying: Kad je bal, nek' je bal.
Which would translate to 'When there's a ball, let it be a ball.', which would translate to 'Going out in a blaze of glory.' So, if this traitorous goverment keeps pulling us to NATO and EU, it's not going to be pretty.
>>62275342
Hmm, why do you hate Albanians?
Have they done something to you?
Or is it because they're our enemies and Russians are our friends?
Not that I don't condone, but we should keep the thread civil. just because we hate eachother doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and get along. I was just wondering.
>>62275342
>serves insist that I'm related to this bitch
>>62275267
Holy shit this mad
Serb travels the world to find his INNER self
>>62275606
I think he's just trolling, considering it's not in Serbian but Russian.
>>62275507
my friends are Russian , and in Russia it is considered that Kosovo belongs to Serbia . even despite the fact that they are Muslims , I hate them anyway
>>62275606
kek
>>62275507
looks like you guys have a worse turk mentality than ours
>>62275695
Okay, so that's the reason. Thank you for your support. Try to keep civil and don't insult them if you don't have to though. I detest them too, but I try to have a civil conversation and this Albanian has so far been civil.
Which city do you live in?
Do you have a qt Russian waifu?
Tbh Russian Muslims seem the most based and 'normal'. Bosnians used to be like this until someone made the 'Bosniak' nation and they collectively flipped their shit and became ISIS in the 90's. Poor sods.
>>62275826
We don't want to fuck up the EU per se, and we don't have much against it. It's just that it wants us to subdue us, and we're not into that.
But don't worry, this isn't Turkey. And even if there will be a coup d'etat, the civillians won't get hurt. Just like in 2002, the assassins just got in and got out.
>>62276119
for us it'd be better to get controlled by foreign governments, leave it to natives and they'll fuck everything up
that's why I'm saying you should go for eu instead of complaining about being subdued, you're being subdued anyway
wanting to take Kosovo is a suicidal mission for you
>>62276119
I do not know the English language , and Google translator translates badly so I do not quite understand you well . I was born in Khasavyurt , but now works in the Leningrad region. The 90 - when there was a war in Chechnya, Dagestan supported Russia , and the Wahhabis mercenaries al - Qaeda attack on Dagestan and killed our people , so I do not like the militant Muslims . I know that the Albanians and the Serbs cut for this hate them because my people have gone through a similar
>>62276405
Well, going to the EU would have it's benefits in terms of getting away from the country to earn more. But they have no respect for most EU members and would try to fill us with shitskins. They'd do the same to you. They'd make a horrible mistake in that regard.
To be honest, if this was 1v1, we could take it back. But nobody would let us, and this is a reality. That NATO base down there is no joke either.
>>62276643
Oh, you're using a translator. Sorry if my sentences were too complex to understand. Well, they're not all militant muslims, but the ones we have to deal with are. But I've noticed with Albanians, they don't really care for which faith they follow, every Albanian is an Albanian.
Also, them being the way they are isn't due to Islam. It's their Albanian mindset. Islam didn't make them what they are, but certainly didn't help.
>>62276679
most eastern europe is part of eu and it doesn't import shitskins
you can't realistically take Kosovo back
it's around 97% albanian
you can't really control them either
why the fuck do you want your country to be a hopeless shithole for you to live?
![2000px-Flag_of_Albania.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/swIoZVV.png "2000px-Flag of Albania.svg[1]")
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