How do Czechs and Slovenes feel about their historical relationship with Austria?
It is to my understanding that their languages, while Slavic, are significantly influenced by German.
>>62222473
>significantly influenced by German
Only dialects 2bh.
>significantly
No
>>62222581
you say "ja" instead of da
>>62222645
yes, maybe we ended up better than slovenes and czechs
>>62223354
Its not significant if slovaks and czechs understand each other
>>62223354
That's colloquial, though. Literary Slovene used da. Dialects have more German influence. From what I read, it supposedly influenced word order in my dialect as well. We have a lot of German loan words, too.
>>62223538
uses*
It's true that literary Slovene is only used on television, public speeches etc. I've never said da outside of reading in school and there are many other things that I would never use if it wasn't for school.
There's a shitton of Czech words of German origin.
How do we feel? Nobody really gives a fuck tbqh
>>62222473
They were influenced culturally and far less linguistically. Both countries have much more central European vibe compared to their Slavic ex-countrymen.
t. Alberto "salesman" Barbosa
>>62223354
You say da instead of tak
you've been cuckolded by mongols
>>62226138
WHY WON'T THE WORLD RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT NOR EVER WERE IN THE BALKANS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>62226246
Tako (so) and da (yes) are two different words, you nincompoop.
>>62226246
All Slavic languages probably have tako (je) alongside da as an affirmative particle. It's just that tako (je) means 'it is so' rather than simply yes.
Not really. Maybe a bit, but our languages remain slavic for the most part.
>>62226349
We use neither da or tak
>>62226247
You are not so different than Croats or they aren't Balkans also?
Also, who gives a fuck. People here get so butthurt over some meme trolling.
>>62226488
Croats use many Turkish words in slang and dialect, their music is influenced by Greek and Turkish music, they use vulgar Hungarian-Turkish-inspired swearwords, and their surnames are also quite different. The language distance between us is about similar to that between you and Spaniards. So yes, Croats are different, even though they assimilated some Slovenian speakers during the Turkish inroads and now include many Slovenian words into their variety of Serbocroatian.
>>62226487
Yes, you say ano. We also have the particle no, but it means well instead as in, 'no, ja' (well, yes). Croats use no as a conjunction (and).
>>62226487
we both do use "tak" as positive answer sometimes.
>>62226803
How is ano similiar to da or tak
>>62226877
Very rarely and its incorrect
>>62227034
tak tak :^)
>>62226880
Yes, I understood that, but I'm trying to get it across that the same parts of speech exist in the South Slavic varieties but that they are used to different ends.
Also, the Slovenian word for 'and' is not 'i' like in all the other Slavic language, but 'in'. While this is not a direct borrowing from German (it comes from i + no), it's probably a result of exposure to 'und'.
>>62226691
trying so hard ...
>>62227050
>Chceš piť?
>Tak
>>62227095
It's the only way they can pretend to be an actual people
>>62227077
We use a for and
>>62227131
t. ethnic American
>>62227095
The perceived national character is also different. Croats are boastful and self-confident, and Slovenes are shy and unassertive. We're very much like the Portuguese and Spaniards (even though you both have Arabic loanwords but Slovenes have no Turkish loanwords, unlike Croats).
![a7a77165e21cc34304f7f291a25e8002[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dEjyAtW.jpg "a7a77165e21cc34304f7f291a25e8002[1].jpg")
>>62227103
As if anyone would ever ask you question like that silly cikan.
>>62227103
>t'
>not using ć
lmoa
>>62227181
>>62227181
Yeah it's another way of saying ethnic English
>>62227131
Nah, Slovenes are cool and the country is super cute; it's just the shitposters here that are just appalling. But fuck it, the same could be said for any flag here.
>>62227236
>ć
Nice meme. It's č.
>>62227248
Don't you mean Spanish?
>>62227201
Please stop with this ethnic stereotypes bullshit. You sound retarded and it gives an impression you never left your village.
>>62227308
ć = hard ci
cz = č
>>62227103
We also wouldn't answer 'Hočeš it pit?' with 'tako je'. Tako je is used more for confirming facts than for making plans.
>>62227308
No not at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity
Related ethnic groups
Anglo-Americans; English Americans; European Americans; Confederados
>>62227308
>>62227236
č, ā, ņ, ķ, ļ, ē, ī, š, ģ, ž
>>62227418
zażółć gęślą jaźń
>>62226691
>used the word "Turk" while talking about Croats only four times
You're improving, Janez.
>>62227418
Č, š and ž make sense but you will have to explain the rest.
>>62227409
>there are people who actually call themselves ethnic Americans
wew
Who cares?
In the end we are all Ancient hunter gathers who got cucked by Neolithic farmers and Indo Europeans.
>>62227533
Yeah we have more history and culture than you "Slovenes"
>>62227638
>we have more history and culture
>>62227234
Who you callin cigan fucking pepik
>>62227708
Indeed your people and country have only existed since 1991
>>62227720
(You)
Post proof u r not.
>>62227529
I wasn't even being biased. Tanjur, krevet, podrum, mamurnost? Everyday Croatian words.
>>62227638
What makes you think that Slovenian culture is not distinct? A desire to troll?
>>62227806
The fact that there is no proof that it is. The fact that you think you aren't just Austrians that have been brainwashed by evil serbs
>>62227774
I can speak London
>>62227773
>>62227929
oh.. tak tak.
>>62227951
Damn the brainwashing is strong in you. Generations of Serbs beating you have made you this way
>>62227533
>ī, ē and ā
Its basically a longer version of i, so imgine instead of writing "REEEE" i just type "RĪ" and its the same, it most of the time isnt as long as you would say it in "REEEE" though. Pretty much the same goes for ē adn ā (but its a different sound obviously).
>ņ, ķ, ļ adn ģ
All are the so called "soft" letters, I cant really explain those, it would be way too long and I dont even know the proper terms for this shit in english. You would have to read up on them.
>>62227883
You don't know anything about our ethnic customs and here you are spouting bullshit. I don't know why /int/ worships big countries so much and completely ignores small ones and more so for stateless ethnicities.
>>62228038
why not í,é,á instead of those awkward horizontal dashes?
>>62228051
Stop drinking the Serb-aid friend
>>62222473
like we say:
we were here before austria, we will be here after austria
>>62227773
yes, cause nations just jump into exisistance
>>62228004
Here's another (you) for the effort.
>>62228051
Ne naprezaj se z odgovarjanjem slabi vabi.
>>62228094
Becuase they're superior, staying true to our Indo-European roots and stuff.
>>62228149
The commies seem to have been masters of making up countries they did it all over the place in Eastern Europe
>>62228136
P. Sure germanic tribes came before slavs
>>62228096
The fact that you seem to associate us with Serbs shows your stereotypical western preconceptions about us. We have actually recently unveiled statues of Vuk Karađić and Petar Petrović Njegoš in Ljubljana as well as restored two Orthodox churches for the descendants of the uskoks in Bela Krajina, and that's because we do not feel threatened by Serbian culture, since we do not have much in common with it.
>>62228190
Slovenians can be traced into 6AD to Moravian tribe. Commies wanted everyone to be Russian. They were against small countries.
>>62228293
>6 ad
Do you mean the 600's ad
>>62228096
Slovenes are related only to the ancient tribe of Metelkovans, who came to the area in the late migration age from their homeland around modern-day Berlin. They were known for worshipping fire (especially in the form of improvised cigarettes), for the copious consumption of beer (like many other ancient cultures), and for their tribal democracy, which Thomas Jefferson later applied to the Paris Commune. I'm going to the site of their ancient gord, still called Metelkova, right now so I can properly honour my ancestors. GEGEN NAZIS, my friend, as the old Metelkovans used to salute one another!
>>62228339
Yes
>>62228190
Burger please, now you sound retarded. Slovenes, Croats and the rest of what you call Eastern Europe and Balkans were there before communism and are there after.
Also, there was kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes before 91 so do some reading before trolling.
>>62228293
>6AD
Wew.
>>62228392
You really couldn't tell that I was trolling even after the Slovene called me out on it
>>62228432
Well it's hard to tell with Burgers cause most of you don't know shit about geography or history of Europe. Than again the same is true for most people here. Fuck me, I guess I had a glass or two too much.
>>62228339
>>62228395
He meant to write in the 6th century AD, which is correct.
>>62228528
It's really easy to get a troll thread started as an American because of that reason. You all have your heads so far up your asses you can't tell when you are being mocked or trolled
>>62226310
>>62226247
>>62226349
>>62228600
Slovenian language was born in XIX.
it's as fake as ukrainian.
>>62228617
And americans do? I dont think so.
>>62228617
True. But it's not our fault your general education is subpar.
>>62228665
t. Piotr the linguist
>>62228665
Polish was only invented after the invention of the radio since people weren't familiar with the sound of static before that.
>>62228694
It's not really. Most people here don't really care about non American things so they don't really pay attention in history class
>>62228665
Now, that's even worse bait than the American put forth. Anyone who's visited a /slav/ thread has likely seen us posting Trubar's protestant sermon from the 16th century.
>>62228600
They didn't have Slovene identity, though. Slovene just means "Slav" anyway. You're a new nation like Macedonians, Montenegrins and Ukrainians.
>>62228792
>16th century
>>62228871
>Hrvaška je poznala nacionalizem že pred 19. stoletjem
Težko ti verjamem, komšije.
>>62228768
>>62228759
>>62228792
>>62228888
that damage control.
ukraine-tier delusions
>>62228768
ouch
>>62228773
It kinda is dude. The gap between good and average universities is massive in USA. Your top universities are of course top of the top. On the other hand, your average college standards are just poor.
>>62228871
>They didn't have Slovene identity, though.
Trubar's first work addressed us with 'Moji lubi Slovenci!', and Sloven and Slovenec aren't even the same word anyway, even though we borrowed the Czech word Slovan in the early 1800s to underscore the difference.
>>62229012
You mean the community colleges that let niggers in with a d average so they can possibly get jobs and not be gangbangers or drug dealers
>>62228871
Nobody had identity before french revolution
>>62228970
t. Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
The quads seemed to have disagreed with you.
>>62229091
Did it work or did it lead to higher educated criminals?
>>62228888
Trubar is the father of our nation for a reason, m8: he wrote for an intended audience of Slovenes, not for Alpine Slavs like the clergy of Freising.
>>62229104
Nobility had.
I cannot recall any "Slovenian" nobility though kek
>>62229131
t. simple version of Polish-Czech rape.
>>62228871
So how did they keep this non-identity till independence in 91? It's amazing how ridiculous exYugos are when it comes to history.
>>62229131
It kinda works.
>>62229154
Better said, people had nationality, they just werent aware of it
>>62222645
>Šmirkás
>>62229154
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0I4mTEdAf8
CZSCZSZCSZCSZCZSCZSCZSCZSCZ
>>62229279
You have the same sounds you stupid fuck.
That's like russian trying to get back at us with his "pshekpshek" bullshit while at the same time he has literally the same sounds and even worse hissing and lipsing.
Anyway, what do you lads think about KUK as a whole anyways?
>>62228871
Can confirm.
New nation reporting in.
Where are the EU gibs, we are a minority and endangered
>>62229154
That is because you are uneducated swine. One of Jagiellonian kings had Slovene wife. It's sad Alberto needs to teach you about your history.
>>62229104
>Enlightenment memes
>>62229170
You don't keep a non-identity, you just don't have it.
>>62229334
We most certainly do no buzz when speaking, friend. Grzegorz translates to Gregor in Slovene.
>>62229440
t. katoliški srb
>>62229413
There was no Slovenia in any part of history, especially during Jagiellonian reign.
Slovenia exists since XIX meme nationalism revolutions.
>>62229104
France and England did
>>62229465
>t. katoliški srb
Croats existed before the Catholic-Orthodox division.
>>62229465
>We most certainly do no buzz when speaking, friend. Grzegorz translates to Gregor in Slovene.
You were under German reign for almost your entire history, that doesn't suprise me at all.
>>62229413
The crest of the Imperial Counts of Cilli (Celje) is featured in our own modern CoA. They were a Bavarian family by origin but increasingly married to Slavic nobility in their later, powerful period.
>>62229440
>>62229479
>>62229250
>>62229104
Nationality existed before the french revolution but the idea/conciousness of it was not nearly as important as religious affiliation.
>>62229598
Not for the English
>>62229622
No one gives a fuck about English
>>62229473
sure potatohead, cause history is not continuum but nations just pop into existence
>>62229562
I guess being under German and Russian rule does make things different...
>>62229526
>ja nisam srbin jebem ti majku bog je hrvat za dom spremni pričaj hrvatski i razumije te cijeli svijet danke dojčłant
>>62229638
Someone sounds jealous
>>62229644
>sure potatohead,
I have long head with strong jaw. Certainly not potato, you fuccboi moor.
And yes, nations do fucking pop out of nowhere. See Ukrainians.
>>62229663
>I guess being under German and Russian rule does make things different...
Polish is older than Russian and in fact we do use some German words not even germans use.
>>62229666
Fuck off Satan
>>62222473
Czechs purged their language from German influence in the 18th and 19th century because they were obsessed with muh slavic purity
>>62229622
The English and the French are supposed to have been the first to awaken to the idea that they are not like the opposing side towards the end of the Hundred Years' War. But then, you also have a slew of early 14th century edicts banning the use of Slavic in the town market throughout the Ostsiedlung area, from Pomerania to Carinthia. Why this effort was undertaken is not clear.
>>62229622
Perhaps, but that is one of the exceptions then.
>>62229832
suck a dick memster
>>62229666
just Eastern temperament
>>62229719
Haha I'm Hans on vacations Piotr, something you people in all your long history still didn't manage to figure out how to do. Or maybe you did but you still cannot afford it.
>>62229562
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aVCgV6tIjE
After all, who cares ?
Now everybody is a nation state and all is well under the sun.
Well, except the hords of shitskins.
>>62229767
The sing songy slavic languages are annoying unless spoken by a good looking women
>>62229719
>And yes, nations do fucking pop out of nowhere. See Ukrainians.
Ukraine is different in that it often overlapped with Russia and that its area was subject to Russian colonization in later centuries. But Slovenian is the only Slavic language that was ever spoken in Slovenia outside of immigrant minorities.
>>62229851
>Haha I'm Hans on vacations Piotr, something you people in all your long history still didn't manage to figure out how to do. Or maybe you did but you still cannot afford it.
Don't get fucked in your tight little ass too hard Hans.
Mehmeds won't like it if it gets loose.
>>62229852
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz is a communist-period joke.
>>62229879
>sing songy slavic languages
The what?
>>62229879
But they all sound like singing except for polish
>>62230025
>But they all sound like singing except for polish
Eastern dialect sounds singy, especially from Belarus and in Ukraine before slaughter.
>>62230007
Your languages are really sing-songy and feminine.
t. lives in Chicago and hears them all the time
>>62230025
Polish sounds like it too
>>62229879
If my neighbours weren't sleeping, I would sing Hej Slovani in such a sexy way you would come with the power of a thousand suns.
No homo.
>>62230062
>Polish sounds like it too
Depends on who speaks it.
>>62230007
It's true, Serbcroatian sounds like a turbofolk song.
Pa niiIIISAM ja KRif. OOOOOOOvaj je bio!
>>62230092
t. Panslavist
>>62229928
No Mehmeds on Azores Piotr. But you are forgiven, you never left you village and you rely on /int/ memes to understand the world. Don't ya worry, one day, after EU throws few more billions into your shithole of a country, you too will earn a decent salary and you will be able to afford vacations abroad.
>>62230092
Nice. Step off the brakes, man. Hit the gas pedal.
>>62230062
>sing-songy and feminine.
>Croatian
No.
>>62230173
You're done now?
I can go to your country, blend in. Get a job and fuck your wife while you post on korean image board. All in one fucking day.
This is a difference between a Pole and a German. You always feel superior and give up when something doesn't work. We get shit on but keep going through.
>>62230227
Yes I know you and the Russians think you sound tough but you don't especially when you guys speak English with a heavy slavic accent
>>62230227
If science says that you sing, then you sing!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_accent#Serbo-Croatian
>>62230286
We do sound tough and you know it. Stop baiting.
>>62230342
Not b8ing friend.
>>62227234
Who is this knedlička-lisička?
>>62229570
>increasingly married to Croat/Polish nobility
>>62230382
Siri
>>62230254
I'm Alpine Jew German Piotr. And you cannot come, we have rules who we take in. Polaks are big nicht nicht. Try UK, I'm sure they need more toilet scrubbers.
Also, I don't give a shit about your "not giving up". And about your history. And your ancient language. At the end, you are just a poor Easterner destined to live depressing, unsatisfying life.
>>62230479
Should've said you're a swiss piece of shit from the start.
I wouldn't waste my fingers on you.
>>62230380
I am very well versed in American pop culture and I'm fully aware of the pervasive "Slavs are scary and sound tough" trope in American film and stand-up comedy which was confirmed to me by a female American that was very interested in placing my sexual organ within her oral cavity.
You are the feminine sounding ones, including American Croats that speak Croatian with an American accent.
Communism destroyed the strong bonds we once had. Sadly
>>62230638
Also the conflict for Carinthia and Nazism, along with mounting ethnic tensions from the early 19th century onwards.
>>62230518
Go sleep Piotr, work weeks starts tomorrow and I'm sure you need all the rest you can get for whatever shitty job you do. Go go and hope you dream about your glorious history, maybe you can be hussar or something and save the Europe.
>>62230227
are you kidding me?
pa kaaaaaAAAAaaj radish to
>>62230802
Do you get off to talking shit and putting people down on image boards?
>>62230843
just one with grandeur complex, e.g. you
>>62230564
Not really they got Germans to play Russians in movies. In real life you are very adorable sounding
>>62230889
I have no fucking grandeur complex you stupid fuck.
I realise where I live and how shitty my fucking conditions are. I realise that I will never have as much money as any fucking low-life from any western country. And what the fuck am I supposed to do? I didn't choose to be here.
It's not a fucking reason to attack me and put me down. What the fuck is even wrong with you.
>>62231001
i read swiss don't even like german-germans who are their own kind yet you expect he be nice to you?
>>62230479
don't be such an asshole m8
>>62231001
Weak
>>62230948
Stop that.
Russians are probably just so scary that American movie producers are too afraid to hire them so they go with Germans.
>>62230809
Purgeri are an exception. Macedonian sounds the most signy and fluenty of all the Slavic languages to me.
>>62231059
I could stomp his fucking cunt in 2 seconds in real life.
I just don't understand how the fuck can you be such a bitch to the people you don't even know.
>>62228293
>Slovenians can be traced into 6AD
more like 6AM amirite
>>62231097
Go to reddit if you are hurt
>>62231089
Lel don't be ashamed my friend.
>>62231141
I can make your asshole hurt tonight, faggot.
>>62231089
>Macedonian sounds the most signy and fluenty of all the Slavic languages to me.
:3
>>62231141
there was no reason for him to lash out like that, that's fucking low
>>62231173
Gay
>>62231216
>>62231173
Fags go back to your safe places. Niggers and arabs have it 100x worse here
>>62231290
>>62231299
I can fuck you both in the same night.
>>62231173
bti gay desu
>>62231328
You a pretty girl
>>62231299
only a real nigger would act so distasteful just because he's born richer
>>62231364
I can make you feel like a pretty girl, if you want.
>>62231398
Nah bring your sister over instead
>>62231397
Rich whites are literally worst
>>62231432
How about I fuck your mother instead.
>>62230464
grzmociłbym jak pojebany żbsz
>>62231452
If you can find her grave and dig her up
>>62231513
Let's ask our rich Swiss guy to hire some other polacks to do the job.
I don't work for assholes.
>>62231001
I'm sorry I hurt your gentle Slavic soul. Yet you were all brave by putting down Ukrainians and Slovenes. Don't be a double-standard bitch Piotr.
>>62231052
Depends. I have no animosity against anybody. My best friend is of Serbian decent. But I do get irritated when he starts with our glorious past and kings and shit. Piotr was no different so I was rude.
>>62231053
life is bitchy and unfair
>>62231059
indeed
>>62231397
Another double-standard cunt; I cannot insult Piotr but he can be rude just because he was born in "older" country? Niggers, fuck ya all.
>>62231560
>My best friend is of Serbian decent.
huh, who knew
>But I do get irritated when he starts with our glorious past and kings and shit.
yep immigrants are known to fall for that crap and balkans especially suffers from that syndrome
>>62231687
>Swiss cuck shares sympathy with made up country
Hmmm
>>62231710
>yep immigrants are known to fall for that crap and balkans especially suffers from that syndrome
Yes, the shittier the country, the more they talk about their kings. Balkans and Easterners are the worst when it comes to this.
>>62231779
Would do the same for you Slovak bro. I'm very found of your Tatra mountains.
>>62231912
We actually wuz kangz tho
Why do people hate on Slovenes
>original Slavic language
>rich history and culture
>first world
>>62231997
E tu, Brute?
>>62232016
>>62232016
>original slavic language
>ja instead of da
