I would like to teach Vietnamese language for anyone who wants to.
Please do
>>62121832
Ask a question?
>>62121870
How do I into tones? Would I ever have a chance of getting them right?
>>62121806
i like vietnamese music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WVTb83KUM
>>62121927
Yes, watch this guy, he pronounces them perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uip_bjVdZfk
There are 6 tones, 1 (thanh ngang) you already use. Hỏi and ngã are pronounced the same in the South, so, here you go.
>>62122063
Cám ơn Vietnonymous
>>62121984
V-pop sucks tho, although it has some bright point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzv7ukkGgF8
Cải lương, traditional music and underground bands can have hot stuffs.
What are common mistakes that foreigners make?
>>62121870
How do I say "It ain't me"?
>>62122252
what?! you mean the video i have posted here (>>62121984 ) is not traditional vietnamese music??
Let me say where is NVA head
>>62121806
hi ya wa fow?
>>62121806
What's the point of learning Vietnamese when Chinese is better in every single aspect, historically, culturally, and is also 100 times more relevant and actually sought after by big companies?
>>62122747
Yes, it is
>>62122690
A lot, sometimes they don't use classifiers, sometimes they use classifiers too much. They don't know how to mark tones. And they don't know the right way to use pronouns.
And Viets don't say "xin chào" in real life, just "chào". If you talked to strangers, put on "xin lỗi" (excuse me, sorry) first.
>>62122964
If you want a useful language, just learn English. Most people learns languages for fun, me included.
>>62122725
Đó không phải tôi. Should odd af tho.
Also, SOME FOLKS ARE BORN...
>>62122977
thanks m8, I'll keep that in mind
>tfw the only anon that wants to learn
>>62123614
you're welcome m8
>>62121984
>>62122252
Here you guys go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCqOIdv2GGs
I've been meaning to learn Vietnamese for a few months now.
I've got some books and have started on the duolingo course.
Do you have a skype account or a telegram account that I could add you on? I'd love to perhaps practice with you one day. Not many vietnamese posters on /int/, so there's no general for me to shitpost in
>>62124339
You can go to /asean/, i will notice. I don't have skype.
>>62124412
Every time I go onto /asean/ I never see any vietnamese flags ;___;
Just a bunch of filipinos and indonesias shitposting
Also, side question, how hard was it for you to learn English?
I wrote my final essay for my syntax subject (I study linguistics) on the verb system in Vietnamese, and it seems all incredibly simple grammatically.
Which makes me wonder, is English hard to learn for native Viet speakers?
>>62124496
I don't post on /asean/ because I don't like weeboo stuffs.
Viets are normally very bad at English. I used to be one of the few students who are decent at English in my class. Structurely it's pretty simple, and does not use much pronouns.
>>62124722
Pronouns in vietnamese is still something I'm getting used to.
I remember reading in a book that apparently some people in Vietnam tend to use a person's name rather than the pronoun, even in scenarios where English wouldn't.
For example replacing "you" with their name.
How common is this?
>>62121806
Sorry,Its not a questinon about lang,do you have the indentity as East Asian?or South East Asian stronger?
>>62125051
No matter how bad the Vietnamese are at English, they can at least take solace that they're leagues better than the Japanese.
>>62124944
Very common. Everybody use it. Especially girls and children.
>>62125051
SEAn with Chinese culture personally.
>>62125159
What is league?
>>62125348
i believe its the common opinion
>>62124722
Gatsby is that you?
How do I ask for a prostitute without a dick?
>>62125678
No girl has dick here, it is not Thailand (and even in Thai i don't think it common). And if you did that wrongly, you might get POLICE'D.
>>62124944
Here is a conversation:
Tim: Hey Matt, what is Matt doing, Tim is finding Matt.
Matt: Oh, Matt feels sick, could Tim call Matt's mom?
>>62121806
is your surname nguyen?
>>62126059
Not, i'm Hoàng.
>>62126112
Where in Vietnam are you from?
>>62126145
The South.
who are your most common tourists?
are you hmong?
>>62126055
hahahah, that seems so funny in English, but I'm sure translated back to Vietnamese, it wouldn't appear strange at all to you
Are you from the north or the south?
Also, any chance I could post a sentence or two for you to record on vocaroo so I can analyse pronunciation?
>>62126157
HCMC?
>>62126176
Amuricans. I'm Viet (or Kinh, to be more specifically).
Is Vietnamese tonal? I was wondering when trying to order some food from a restaurant yesterday.
>>62126237
rate these
>>62126273
yes it is
6 tones (5 in the south)
>>62126273
That's some autistic shit anon
>>62126303
Yeah, the lady who runs it was a nice qt and you know how it goes.
>>62126284
Nice. And Hoa people is literally ethnic Chinese, Thai is, well, Thailander, but China'd.
>>62121806
my father before i moved to belgium with my mother wrote me a letter 2 weeks before he died but it was written in vietnamise so my mother could not read it. he was a vet during the vietnam war and i remember my last word to him was me insulting him becous he use to be very violent. and i never got to read it becous i dont care and seeing this thread made me remeber this letter he wrote me. can you translat it for me ? i want to know what was his last words.
>>62126824
Yes, post it.
>>62126926
ok i need to double post its too larg also thank you vietnamis friend.
pardon if its not well written its not in my habit to write in vietnamise.
>>62121806
I don't think I have that much time desu. I appreciate the offer though.
>>62126926
Cái quái gì đã làm bạn chỉ chết tiệt nói về tôi, bạn ít chó?
Tôi sẽ có bạn biết tôi tốt nghiệp hàng đầu của lớp học của tôi ở Hải cẩu Hải quân, và tôi đã được tham gia vào nhiều cuộc tấn công bí mật về Al-Quaeda,
và tôi có hơn 300 kills xác nhận.
Tôi được đào tạo trong chiến tranh khỉ đột và tôi là người bắn tỉa hàng đầu trong toàn bộ lực lượng vũ trang Mỹ.
Bạn không là gì với tôi, nhưng chỉ là một mục tiêu.
Tôi sẽ lau bạn quái ra với độ chính xác thích của mà chưa bao giờ được thấy trước đó trên trái đất này,
đánh dấu các từ chết tiệt của tôi. Bạn nghĩ rằng bạn có thể nhận được ngay với nói rằng shit tôi qua Internet?
Nghĩ lại đi, đồ ngu. Khi chúng ta nói tôi đang liên hệ với mạng lưới bí mật của tôi về các điệp viên trên khắp Hoa Kỳ và IP của bạn bị truy tìm ngay bây giờ để bạn chuẩn bị tốt hơn cho các cơn bão, sâu non.
Cơn bão mà làm mờ nhạt những điều ít thảm hại bạn gọi cuộc sống của bạn. Bạn đang fucking chết,
đứa trẻ. Tôi có thể ở bất cứ đâu, bất cứ lúc nào, và tôi có thể giết chết bạn trong hơn bảy trăm cách,
và đó chỉ với hai bàn tay trần của tôi. Không chỉ là tôi được đào tạo rộng rãi trong chiến đấu tay không,
>>62127119
nhưng tôi có quyền truy cập vào toàn bộ kho vũ khí của Thủy quân Lục chiến Hoa Kỳ và tôi sẽ sử dụng nó đến mức độ đầy đủ của nó để lau mông khốn khổ của bạn khỏi mặt của lục địa này,
bạn ít shit. Nếu chỉ có bạn mới có thể biết được những gì trả thù xấu xa chút "thông minh" nhận xét của bạn đã được về để mang xuống trên anh em, có lẽ bạn đã có thể tổ chức lưỡi fucking của bạn.
bạn nhưng bạn có thể không, không, và bây giờ bạn đang phải trả giá, bạn chết tiệt thằng ngốc. Tôi sẽ shit giận dữ trên tất cả các bạn và bạn sẽ bị dìm chết. Bạn đang fucking chết, nhóc ạ.
>>62127119
Something that is not very nice, full of curse words and things like that.
Also it sounds like Google Translate?
>>62127206
Maybe i will start a Weekly Vietnam thread this weekend.
Now i need to sleep.
>>62127206
he's a shitty troll
>>62127243
Ngủ ngon senpai
Why are so many vietnamese people named nguyen?
>>62127206
Of course it's Google translate.
The google translate every you/your to bạn which literally friend.
If someone really insult you they and know about vietnamese, they will use mày instead.
>>62127434
When the Nguyen Dynasty rule.
Legend say.
If you are a criminal and also a Nguyen, they spare u.
If you are a peasant and also a Nguyen, you become middle class.
If you are a middle class and also a Nguyen, you become high class.
If you are a high class and also a Nguyen, you can persecute other non Nguyen high class and become even higher with free poppy.
Nguyen is Win.
>>62127644
>tfw Nguyen is one of the most popular names in Australia even though Vietnamese are a relatively small minority
>>62121806
Your language sounds like truntung truntung in my ears. How does Indonesian sounds to you?
>>62121806
fuck i wanna learn
>>62127838
Sound like ailen with ting tang tong.
At least you not become joke with name literally mean high some dick and fart some folk in cambodia language.
>>62127644
So like Mohammed or Goldstein.
>>62128224
Except that the people with Nguyen surname is really successful in the Vietnamese while the Muhammad often just Prophet wannabe and almost of them not at famous at people not named muhammad in muslim.
>>62121806
Viets best immigrants! :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ycOABMpIyE
Here's a Viet-inspired Polish song, we like you guys over here.
How to say "Hello" and "Thank you" in Vietnamese?
>>62125476
The phrase "leagues better than" or "leagues ahead of" simply means better. In this case, the filthy baka-gaijin meant to say that Vietnamese people tend to speak English much better than Japanese.
A league is a unit of distance meaning about 5.6 kilometers, so it's similar to saying "miles better than" or "lightyears ahead of", or even just "leaps and bounds". Distance and height are rather common in English idioms meant to compare how good two things are.
>>62121806
noone wants to learn your 3rd world shit language
also stop coming to my country.
>>62128756
how do I say "niggers of asia"
This is very important
I want to go to Vietnam since that Top Gear episode.
>>62128756
There's a shitload of Nguyens in the US as well.
>>62129595
Chào and Cám ơn.
It's already a miracle that Poland Nationalism doesn't want to kick the largest minorities out of Poland.
>>62133470
Funny that i did have Family in Norway, they say that the place really boring and depressed and they just go fishing all day for entertainment, they rich enough to have a ship though.
Kins say about missing noisy, stinky home.
So you don't have to worry that me come to you place.
I still think it's a cool place, not just for living the rest of my life in a boring place.
>>62133520
Mọi (savager), Vietnamese often say it to any people that darker or ugly even same Kins.
>>62138021
40% of Vietnamese are Nguyen.
Vietnamese Diaspora 50%<
Nguyen love travel for fortune.
It's in their blood.
>>62138240
What can you tell me about the surname 'Luong'?
>>62138312
Working money.
Literally.
Plis translate "Choke me daddy"
>>62122977
in my experience you don't even use chao, you guys just say hello
>>62133926
Iktfb, also Anthony Bourdain and Martin Yan
>>62123072
How many languages do you know?
>>62138240
>It's already a miracle that Poland Nationalism doesn't want to kick the largest minorities out of Poland.
Is that how your media portrays Poland?
muslim rapefugees =/= hard-working Asians
>Chào and Cám ơn.
How do you read that?
Like Italian Ciao and English Come on?
>ơ
Is this some tone of "o"?
>>62148670
>Like Italian Ciao and English Come on?
Not, but close enough.
>>62144247
Just Vietnamese, English and some French.
>ơ
I know the pronunciation, but i could not explain to you, because i don't know how.
>>62133470
Learning a language has nothing with its country you know. I even consider learning some Welsh, is it relevant or useful at all? No.
I can't get over how horribly repugnant Vietnamese sounds as a spoken language and SEA languages in general. Goddamn what are these fucking unholy sounds?
The only tonal language that is actually palatable is Cantonese and even that's stretching it.
>>62153443
When you sing, the sound become somewhat tonal. So i think that tonal languages is like you sing while talking simultaneously with no melody.
>>62153669
Why are you comparing Vietnamese and SEA languages with singing? They sound nothing like singing at all, more like a fucking horrible assault to your ears. Fucking hell, your language needs to Sound better or die in a fine.
>>62154667
fire *>>62154667
>>62154667
>die in a fine.
lel
>>62154667
Because it is, singing doesn't mean to be beautiful you know, just like language.
>>62154702
Anyone who speaks the language should be fined, and then die.
>>62155248
Neat. When i were young, i thought English speakers talk way too fast, and sound like gibberish.
>>62121806
nghot nghot phout phout?
>>62121806
are the clothes factories located at the north or the south side of vietnam?
pls tell me cities
>>62155603
Both, but i would say the South, Saigon to be more specifically).
What's a good Vietnamese text to speech program or site? I can understand spoken Vietnamese, but written Vietnamese gives me a lot of trouble.
I don't want any apps and only this site was somewhat decent: http://www.vnspeech.com/
>>62121806
viet and thai sounds the same to me.
are they related?
any borrowed words?
>>62156301
Viet and Thai are in different language families, but they do sound familiar because they share some tones. Thai like a very strange language (not ching chong ping pong like the memesters said) with Vietnamese alike pronunciation.
What's your politics like? How about economy?
vietnamese is hell
the tones are even harder than in chinese
and the grammar is hell (well not Czech-level hell, but it isn't easy either)
but the girls are pretty, so it's worth it
>>62157382
also the country is 10/10
except for Hoi An
Why does every tourist guide tell to go to Hoi An, it's the worst place ever
Also Nha Trang sucks, fucking Russians
>>62156604
Viets are the hottest South east asians but has the ugliest sounding language by far along with thai.
>Also what do you think about your ASEAN neighbours?
>>62157322
>politics
Pseudo-communism, actually communism'd capitalism.
>>62157322
Growing, but the currency is a endless drop.
>>62157510
We are cool with them, almost all SEA countries hate China.
>>62157382
>>62157425
At least it doesn't have genders lol.
>>62157664
lol, why do they hate China?
>>62157684
Because THEY WUZ INVADERS AND SHIEEET
>>62157664
I was in VN last year, and as a person from ex-communist country, I was at first horrified by all the communist propaganda everywhere, all the billboards with "5 year plan" and "happy communist faces" and so on
But in the same streets you have mobile phone shops and KFCs and McDonald's
It's so weird
But I am coming back this year anyway. As I said, it's 10/10 country. If you go on a motorbike, that is.
>>62157715
Do your people actually "hate" Chinese people, or is it mainly the government?
>>62157848
Everybody, the government is the one that hates China the least.
>>62157848
From what I can tell (not being from there, but talked to people): Both.
They hate the country first, but they also say "don't trust Chinese, they will make friends with you but then stab you in the back".
They also kinda don't like Cambodia, because they are too friendly with China. From what I have been told.
>>62157927
lol. stupid gook.
t.Chink
>>62157848
Just as you do to muslim. People are very paranoid about anything come from China
>>62121806
What does
>I love eating bugs, worms and spiders! Yummy!
mean?
Nah pal, I'm good. I had one semester of it and that's enough.
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
Hungol on vacation here.
What's up with you people and polo shirts?
Why are there so few bookshops? I don't think I saw a single reading person.
How do you endure the atrocious dubbing on TV? It's laughably bad.
>tfw no Vietnmese food
Does Vietnam have decent entertainment? I'm talking about dramas, films, mangas and whatever kind of entertainment you have.
>>62158830
Most elders don't read because they have weak eye. Kids are either stupid or don't like to read.
I'm a /lit/ard desu.
>>62158659
SILVER SPOON IN HAND
>>62159010
We have some based writers in the past and present. Films are mostly k-drama and j-drama wannabe. Underground music is decent, V-pop sucks, see: >>62122252
>>62159111
Do you have your version of manga? Like the Koreans have manhwa and Chinese have manhua. And those creepy Indonesian mangas.
Almost every Vietnamese person I met was Nguyen
Why
whats it like being the most powerful race in the world?
>>62159180
See:
>>62127644
>>62159146
No, at least, not yet. There are some Vietnamese comics tho (most is ultra shit).
>>62156604
how about ducks (duckinese)?
don't get offended
b-but, sometimes it just sounds like quacking non-stop
>>62158257
Do you view the Hoa minorites as distinct or are they all chinks to you?
>>62160731
I have a Hoa friend and he's nice. I usually treat ethnic Hoa and Chinese differently.
>>62122252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZgQK6_NG4
your singers from the 60s are the best
beautiful voices
>>62127206
It's the gorilla warfare copypasta.
>>62160960
Ah, just wondering. My mom's side of the family is Hoa and they left right after the war. She assimilated into Viet culture so completely she might as well be one anyway, doesn't even speak Chinese.
>>62157715
>>62157927
But didn't they give you all civilization and culture?
Also, do the SEA countries hate the Chinese because the Chinese work hard to accomplish shit while the SEA'ers are lazy fucktards who blame their fucking ineptitude and zero accomplishments on the fucking Chinese?
>>62121806
How easy is for a Thai speaker?
>>62161731
Doesn't change the fact that they invaded us tho, same for Korea and Japan.
