Which Eastern European country, apart from Russia, has the best history and/or has contributed the most to the world?
>>62091226
Definitely Ukraine
They came up with many inventive ways to murder toddlers and pregnant women
>>62091530
Serbia is better, they film it for my enjoyment
>>62091226
Slovenia has the best history because it's the only country in Eastern Europe to have actually been party to all the historical processes and institutions that Western Europe did - that's cause we were Western Europe until 1918. Ok, Czechia is more or less the same, but they introduced feudalism later.
>>62091226
Use a fucking archive
MOOOODS
Poland. Read about Jam Sobieski.
>>62091226
Easily Poland...
Serbia, because of Tesla.
>>62091664
better pic
>>62091226
Poland or Czechy
Also Copernicus, Skłodowska-Curie, Chopin, Łukasiewicz
>>62091653
What do you mean?
>>62091798
There are threads like this every fucking day or two. Choose your favourite ee country and judge by urself if it's history is interesting or not
>>62091705
>>62091664
and after all your country is still an irrelevant shithole. explain.
>>62091226
Czechslovaks, Poles, Hungarians, Estonians all contributed a lot to modern science and so-on.
>>62091921
> Estonians
???
We are Central Europe, but i think that nobody in our region except Germany can compare to us in the field of contribution to the USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_Americans?wprov=sfla1
>that koreanboo pole
god
>>62091877
>25th economy in the world
>irrelevant
ok
we are not big and powerful but we aren't irrelevant like idk Slovakia or Laos
Finland.
>>62092090
>history
Turkey.
>>62091996
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>>62092044
There is no scale. You are either relevant or not. Poland is not relevant
>>62092044
>25th economy in the world
>>62092181
We are extremely relevant. Quite possible that we will have WW3 in Europe soon because of our meddling in Ukraine
>>62091226
>Eastern Europe
>Balts included
we're part of Northern Europe
>>62092204
Oh fuck. Is this real?
K E K
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>>62092204
AXAAXAXAXAXAX
>>62091949
eh there's a lot, a handful at my school. they have weird autism genes which enables them to do science well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Estonian_scientists
>>62092252
Keep dreaming, no one gives a shit about our whole region except Russia.
>>62091226
Not Bulgaria.Bulgarians are gypsies that will steal your bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxksNkmFiw
>>62092204
>>62091877
Poor, warmongering, genocidal, obnoxiously agressive, uncivilized, soulless nation suffering eternal identity crisis(first they stole the Kievan Rus' history, then they defeated and subjugated another important Rus' cultural centre - Novgorod, claimed to be the "Third Rome", then tried to establish themselves as a proper European state copying the Western art and developements, then realizing how multicultural and diverse is their state they came up with """"USSR"""" abandoning their former flag and culture, after it's pathetic fall they are again lost and clueless so they sperg out). Collectivist minded and servile society with no regard to human life. They don't care about their personal wealth, freedom etc as long as Mother Russia and the Tsar is fine. They lack empathy, incapable of establishing a friendly relations on equal terms. Apart from Moscow and St Petersburg and some oil regions Russia is extremely poor and undeveloped - as the Russians are incapable of producing anything sophisticated almost the entire wealth of the country comes from it's natural resources. Except for the art and architecture directly derived either from the Greeks(all the Orthodox architecture they have horribly bastardized, icons) or Westerners(these fancy palaces in St. Petersburg) they barely have contributed to the culture at all. Considering a very large population their scientific contribution is utterly underwhelming, vastly inferior compared to the Western Slavs. Entire society is subjected to brainwashing propaganda blaming the Americans for everything, making them praise their Tsar Putin and support all the vicious acts of violence and terror. They can't even into geopolitics - Russia still pretends it's 19th century and the best way for the state to succeed is to be egoistic, xenophobic, expansive, imperialistic, overly-nationalistic and authoritarian. Russia is the true cancer of humanity and I sincerely hope it breaks apart as soon as possible.
>>62091226
>Rubik's cube was invented by a Hungarian
>the ball point pen was invented by a Hungarian
>holography was invented by a Hungarian
>the electric motor was invented by a Hungarian
>the smartest man alive was a Hungarian
>Barbara Palvin is a Hungarian
I'll let you answer your question
>>62092292
Nigeria has 200 mln people and is the biggest exporter of oil in Africa. Poland has 38 mln of people and doesnt export oil.
>>62092292
yes and you are 43th
>>62092353
We are not an impoverished baltic shithole with 2 mln of citizens out of which 20% resides abroad. We are very important for the USA although they are not very loud about it
>>62092548
>We are very important for the USA
Yeah as the fucking cannon fodder,
>>62092537
Are you actually retarded?
>>62092548
>We are very important for the USA although they are not very loud about it
>>62091641
Oh there he is, there he goes again.
>WEZ RELEVANT
>HERE ARE SOME ARBITRARY EXPLANATIONS WHY OUR LANGUAGE IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME
>ALSO OUR HISTORY IS OBVIOUSLY THE RICHEST IN THE WORLD
>WEZ WESTERN AN SHIET
>WEZ THE BELLYBUTTON OF THE WORLD
>it's a Slovene
Every single time.
Why is Slovenia so obsessed with itself? You're even worse than Poles are in this regard, and that's saying something.
Your whole cunt is basically a tiny-ass mountain village with no relevance whatsoever aside from tourism, assuming that tourists won't mistake you for Slovakia. There was less people that fought for your country than there is souvenir shops in it. All other Slav cunts have at least a hint of self-awarness of how shitty they are, but Slovenes just completely devoid of any self-criticism. Is it because gommunism didn't hit you as bad as the rest of us? Is it because of your geopolitical location? Is it the Austrian influence? Is it something else?
Where does this self-delusion of grandeur come from?
>>62092548
38 million citizens and you're still an impoverished slavic shithole.
>We are very important for the USA
LMAO polak you're funny
>>62092611
Ugh. No, not really. More like something that keeps balance in Eurasia by blocking German-Russian attempts to dominate it
>>62092685
Slovenia is a fake "nation" just like Ukraine.
I wanna get polish gf.
>>62092699
This fucking delusion.
USA doesn't give a shit about Poland.
They just want to throw us under Russia again. Just wait for the provocation similiar to 1880-1863
>>62092691
If we are impoverished, it means that you are worse than Africa-tier
>>62091226
Bulgaria directly influence all other slavic nations culturally. Also, we are one of the oldest countries in Europe and came the close to become the Third Rome during the Second Bulgarian Empire.
>>62092663
>>62092691
Don't laugh, Shithuania will be first to become a part of Russia.
>>62092833
And you'll be nuked instead lmao
>>62092803
>Bulgaria directly influence all other slavic nations culturally
>>62092833
Well, to be honest, Lithuania looks the same or worse than Russia. Their Vilnius looks like Bydgoszcz of 90s.
>>62092833
I wonder why is Russia training a nuclear strike on Warsaw?
>>62091226
Bulgaria, no contest.
Second is maybe Hungary.
>>62092866
I don't give a shit, at least żmudzin monkeys will suffer.
This is what you get for giving us a lip for centuries. Become russian whore already.
>>62092945
How can you train a nuclear attack on anything? When you answer this question, you will understand how stupid it was. First people who went out with this idea were Poles. Presenting Russia as a country willing to make Polocaust generates a lot of political implications.
Man I wish we were like Poland, which is surely the most prosperous nation in the entire world with the richest history of only conquests and discoveries and numerous contributions to man kind.
>>62093146
>How can you train a nuclear attack on anything?
Distance, Trajectory, coordinates that would give the biggest effect ect..
>>62092954
>>62093189
Commonwealth when?
>>62093189
Laugh all you want faggot. At least we contributed something, unlike you useless cunts.
>>62093189
Wll, average pension in Poland is 500 euro net, while in Lithuania around 280. Your seniors are hungry because most of taxpayers in Lithuania escaped abroad
>>62092548
>We are very important for the USA
top kek
Is that what you keep telling yourself to sleep without nightmares?
>>62093270
see
>>62093270
Don't touch shit. It will stink more.
>>62093277
baltniggers BTFO
>>62093229
Stop ridiculing yourself.
>>62092685
It's because we're, in a historical sense, actually western Europeans who speak a Slavic language. It helps that our particular Slavic language is one of the earliest attested and the grammatically most intact out of all Slavic languages. A Slovene can arguably understand other Slavic languages as a whole more easily than any other Slavic speaker because our vocabulary is largely devoid of foreign borrowings. Apart from these trivialities, we are 25th in the world by HDI. We regularly outperform even Western European countries in a number of metrics. This little nation, 1000 years under foreign rule, ultimately managed to come out on top. Of course we Slovenes, most of us still able to remember the foundation of country a mere quarter of a century ago after 1000 years of foreign rule and, in the 20th century, the frequent threat of extinction, are proud of ourselves.
>>62093434
Are you legitimetly retarded?
>>62093434
It's in his genes.
>>62093511
Also, Slovenia has three different climate zones and four different geographical regions, which is pretty amazing considering our negligible size.
>>62093520
You are a fucking retard and troll. Google such surnames like Wildstein, Sikorski and Applebaum, then you will understand who promoted this "nuking Warsaw" thing in media and NATO society. We pay around 20 bln dollar annually for Russian oil and gas, which is like your whole GDP probably. Kremlin doesnt nuke hens lying golden eggs.
>>62093511
>>62093649
>still no gay marriage
Into the trash it goes.
>>62093511
xaxaxaxa
>>62093511
>>62093649
ukraine tier delusions
>>62093715
BTFO
>All these assblasted Poles come scurrying out of the woodwork
Poland is a pretty solid contender for 2nd most important country in Eastern Europe, but holy fuck you guys are whiny.
>>62093782
We're also quite proud of not being Turks by culture and temperament, unlike all the other South Slavs tbth.
>>62093875
you're not proud of anything and you're fully aware of it, and we are too
>>62093511
>after 1000 years of foreign rule
...you finally realised it's time to create a nation
>>62093980
*form
desu lads, slovenian comedy
>>62093980
butifel
Do Slovakia next pls, I want to see butthurt and tears.
Poland is the only slav country that isn't trash
>this whole post
thanks for brightening up this gloomy day, I really needed a good chuckle
>>62093980
I prefer to be a Slovenian and have strong ethnic traditions but few national ones than to be part of a non-ethnicity such as the Croats for all their rich history,
>>62094276
>croats
>rich history
wait a minute...
>>62094276
I have nothing against you, just keep your fairy tales to western tourists.
Gosh, you are just like our mountain people. Isolation and bad pressure can really fuck up mans brain.
>>62094332
Croats had their own nobility and bourgeoise, even if their history tends to be tangled up with Bosnia's in some places. This is also why they like to claim Bosnia and parts of Slovenia as their land, to affirm Croatian ethnic and historical exceptionality. Sadly, they're even less of a ethnic than Americans - a patchwork of Serbs, Slovenes and assimilated Italians, Turks and Germans.
>>62094501
Polish doesn't even have dialects anymore. Your language barely registers as Slavic to other Slavs. You may have had your time as a regional power, but your culture suffered as a result. Only a memory of the old pre-enlightenment szlachta survives, but Polish peasants are completely proletarized and denuded of traditional culture other than catholic fanaticism. This stands in sharp contrast to the rich Slovenian cultural and linguistic landscape.
>>62094257
oh no, I've misclicked and didn't give you a well deserved (You)! >>62093511 Here you go, my precious crème de la crème of Slavic nations. I hope you will remain the stout, glorious exemplar that you've been for a millenium and that you will show us, poor subslavs, the way in the grim darkness of our inferiority.
>>62094716
>Polish doesn't even have dialects anymore.
>what is Góral
>what is Kashubian
>what is Silesian
>what is Sorbian
>>62094941
Silesian is a language
>>62092685
>>62092718
>>62093980
>>62094501
>being so butthurt over cheap Slovenian trolling
>>62094752
Everyone expects us to be humble and indistinct because of our small size. It seems that some Salivc /int/ posters even somewhat resent Slovenians for having our own culture and language. You're supposed to be Serbocroats!, you shout. You're Balkan! Austro-Italians who picked up Slavic in some obscure stretch of time! Historical proof of our language's longevity or a recounting of our historical record is met by outright denial of Poles and Russians, who want to preserve the image burned into the western mind that Slavs can only be Poles and Russians. Of course the word herbata and carpets on walls and samovars and hussar cavalry (a Serbian invention btw) are originally Slavic! God forbid that they be revealed as Oriental/Latin borrowings and for another obscure country in another corner of Europe to be shown as possessing some of the pieces of the old Slavic puzzle!
If we're including Austria in this as the map implies, then them arguably. Their empire was parked in between West, East and South and they contributed quite a lot to the state of the world today.
>>62091226
Poland > Hungary > Bulgaria
(Czechia is Western Europe)
>>62092204
Ok and now compare populations of these two countries, you fuckin mongol turd.
>>62095173
What the hell, I'm bored. Have another (You).
>Everyone expects us to be humble and indistinct because of our small size.
No, everyone expects you to stop portraying yourself as some sort of elite super nation when you clearly aren't one.
>It seems that some Salivc /int/ posters even somewhat resent Slovenians for having our own culture and language.
No, they resent you for being a bunch of narcissistic autists.
>You're supposed to be Serbocroats!, you shout. You're Balkan! Austro-Italians who picked up Slavic in some obscure stretch of time!
Literally what?
Literally who?
Nobody in this thread said any of this.
>Poles and Russians, who want to preserve the image burned into the western mind that Slavs can only be Poles and Russians.
Average burger or strayan can't even tell a Pole and a Ruskie apart, so in this regard we're as irrelevant as you are. Nobody is doing that on purpose, it's a simple matter of a lack of exposure.
>hussar cavalry (a Serbian invention btw)
First of all, it takes literally 2 lines from a wikipedia article to know that, so you're not exactly surprising anyone with this knowledge.
Second of all, hussars came to us through Hungarians, and were heavily modified as a unit, so they really weren't the same thing as the original version.
>God forbid that they be revealed as Oriental/Latin borrowings
>what is Sarmatism
Poles would sooner believe that they came from the fucking Moon then they are regular slavshits. Nobody ever tried to hide or deny the orientbooism of our nobility, we learn about this stuff in primary schools.
What makes you think that a higher score on the Slavic-purity-o-meter will somehow make you better in any way? You're probably the only one who cares about this.
we have all the athletes and 3 scientists
i'd say poland > serbia > the rest do not even register, they were never even an empire, they were just swapping masters like good little cucks they are, never did anything and never contributed anything, czechs make whores and everyone else quite literally can not be detected or observed no matter which instruments you use, all those countries might as well be a ruse, a jest, merely a joke we tell each other but after 1000s of years no one actually went there to check it out, so we assumed they exist instead
They've all contributed ther fair share to the world, or at least the region, aside from meme countries like Macedonia, Kosovo, Albania or Montenegro, desu.
>>62094716
>>62094941
>Polish doesn't have dialects
topkek
>>62091226
Ukraine literally invented Russia t b h f a m
>>62098039
>Ukraine
Literally what?
>>62097909
There are some distinguishable dialects, but this map is exaggerated. Don't tell me you actually can tell who's from Wielkopolska and who's from Mazowieckie just by their speech. You'd have to be a specialized linguist to do that.
>>62098430
which is the hissiest?
>>62091226
Finland :^)
>>62093511
It's true desu. Slovenians are just Slavic speaking Friulians. They look the same.
